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"Flashfire Fist" - "That's my Dad's move."
Then and now... (Also, it's the first time ever that Endeavor gets to do a combo with Shouto)
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So I'm not sure, but I guess, what happening is that Sero spots the portals right behind AFO, realizes it's Shouto, distracts AFO with talking and then grabs Shouto and Endeavor so they don't impale themselves on AFO's spikes with the forward momentum? Something like that.
Also, it's obviously a callback to Sero vs Todoroki (Both Sero yanking him around and Shoto's "gangimari" face.
Also, this is another element Horikoshi reused from Heroes Rising...
#bnha 421#bnha manga leaks#bnha manga spoilers#tracking the fight#sero hanta#todoroki shouto#bnha parallels
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Honestly at this point it's our own fault for expecting to not be disappointed by theses chapters apperantly hori can only gives good moments to irrelevant characters therefor said moments are also irrelavent and don't have the impact they would have if given to someone that mattered
I've come to not expect anything else really anytime hori does something axtuly good it's followed by a million not (his characters and stories have so much potential and there all wasted like way are fanfics so much more impact full than the main story 😢
Although I'm a little confused as to what happened to the todorokis?
The leaks came in truly bad quality this week, but even so, it's evident that Hori is still trying to "hide" what happened fully.
All we know for sure is:
Endeavor and Shoto were awake enough to respond to the back-up call and come through the portals (this to me is not a surprise. Shoto especially is in relatively good condition. He only overstretched his quirk but had time for cooldown).
They come from two different portals, but at the same time to do a Flashfire Fist to drive back AFO away from Izuku. (It's a pretty basic move for both of them, and not very powerful, and it maybe because they are down to the last scraps or because of the crowd, they can't do AoE moves).
And then there is this cryptic flashback:
It looks like the robots are putting Rei (?) on a stretcher, while Natsuo is still moving. Toya is hidden. Using pikahlua's TL because the scanlation look inaccurate:
"Quickly, to where Recovery Girl is...!" "The old lady is also at her limit with injured persons... Whether or not anything can be done..."
-> This could refer to either Rei or Toya (or likely both) - basically implying that they are in critical condition and the family is trying to get them to Recovery Girl...
Then Natsuo says - I think talking to specifically to Enji (because he uses "anta") and not to Shoto:
"Even with you here, mom and the others will only be hot."
This confirms pretty much that Toya is there too.
Enji hesitated whether to take the portal or go with his family.
Natsuo basically says that there is nothing Enji can do and his presence could be even harmful - implying that Enji is still overheated (which if you look at both Shoto's and Endeavor's pupilless eyes makes me wonder if they absorbed a lot of Toya's heat)
"So go. Even if it's [just] a little, if you can muster [any] strength..."
Even if it's just a litte is written over Enji's panel, which may imply that he's on his last fumes and his presence here is not necessarily to boost the fight, but for whatever narrative conclusion purpose
if you can muster [any] power - this part is on Shoto's panel. As the Japanese uses "chikara", as in the famous "kimi no chikara" moment between Deku and Shoto, I'm guessing it foreshadows a more powerful attack from Shoto at a later stage (which could include a quirk upgrade if he absorbed Toya's heat - it would make sense or it could include a combo with Toya if he'll show up, which I have a strong feeling he will).
So I think the important thing is that Toya's fate, just like Toga's is left in limbo, as well as there is a strong sense that the Todorokis are running here on fumes, just like everyone else.
My personal feeling is that Hori is setting up a quite hopeless fight with a moment where the star arrivals to the battlefield will be the LoV (possibly because Kurogiri decides that this is the boost Tomura needs), and it will be the tipping point to bring Tomura back who will be essential in stopping / defeating AFO together with Deku (and maybe the other Origins - Bakugou and Shoto).
Bringing in the LoV would achieve tying in the efforts to save Toga and Toya (and Spinner) into the final main conflict, tying together Deku reaching Tenko's/Tomura's fused desire to be the hero of the villains and also for the civilians to see the villains fight against the big bad. It could also foster final conclusion of the big character arcs, including for Enji, Toya and Shoto.
#c1a asks#bnha manga spoilers#bnha manga leaks#bnha 421#bnha speculation#tracking the fight#keeping up with the todorokis#bnha meta
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For all the hype hori build arround Sero's "big moment" it ended up being pretty shitty. Also I cant measure how much I HATE that Endeavor is gonna to figth AFO AGAIN as if we havent seen enough of him puching bad guy uuuhggh I hate this chapter
Yeah, in the end Sero's moment was predictable - using Tape at a moment when Deku lost Black Whip. It's a cool concept but Hori just didn't land it very well. With Deku using BW so much and it being so powerful, Sero taping up AFO looks both underwhelming and pretty difficult to believe that it would somehow prevent AFO from doing anything.
As for his "speech" - it's like 80% of the class. If he doesn't develop them, they'll just end up saying something tripe (it feels like Class A vs OFA - which I thought was a cool concept and some of it was genuinely good, but everyone saying something was hamfisted. Or the IronSuit, which didn't need to have a functionality for every single student AM never interacted with).
Also, it feels weird for Sero of all people yelling about the tragedy Shoto experienced. As much as "SeroRoki" is a thing in fanfic, in canon they only had 2-3 interactions, and none of them very deep or digging into Shoto's anger at the Sport Festival (which is a shame).
Iida talking to Shoto worked much better, because of both of their arcs, parallels, foiling and lots of build-up between them.
As for Endeavor - yeah, I'm still trying to process that tbh and trying to decide if it's a good thing or bad thing. In a way, it feels like his "father moment" is once again side-stepped, when Natsuo just tells him to go into the battle because him radiating heat is bad for Rei (even though last we saw them they were all freezing). So Enji doesn't need to make a choice between responding to the back-up call or trying to get Toya to Recovery Girl in time to maybe save his life.
But on the other hand, it's like a punishment too that having prioritized being a hero for so long, now he has to fight without knowing Toya's fate. Natsuo's comment also makes it seem like Endeavor has not many punches left in him, so I hope he won't overshadow the kids.
I do appreciate that his combo with Shoto came only after he apologized and for the moment it is pretty low key.
I don't want to judge too harshly, because I feel like the star arrivals of this last battle will be the LoV, including Toya. With ShiraGiri still being unstable, I can see him doing his own little call for back-up and rounding up all the LoV and I think that could be exactly what tips the balance in favor of Tomura's return. So maybe Endeavor being in the battlefield will still pay off in some way for Shoto and Toya getting their proper conclusions.
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I know. That’s why I want him to say it again.
ICONIC 👏
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Midoriya Izuku: Rising next?
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That's a hard task…
Todoroki & All Might | Memories EP3
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Shoto's Gangimari face
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MHA Chapter 421 spoilers translations
This week’s initial tentative super rough/literal translations under the cut.
1
おまえらもかよ
omaera mo ka yo
"You guys too, huh?"
2
そっちもな
socchi mo na
"And you as well."
3
警察から"まだ戦える者は"って……！
けいさつから"まだたたかえるものは"って……！
keisatsu kara "mada tatakaeru mono wa" tte......!
"[I heard] from the police, 'Who is still able to fight?'......!"
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A組続々…
エーぐみぞくぞく…
EE-gumi zokuzoku...
Class A, one after another...
4
相澤先生が黒霧を味方につけたって聞いてーーー
あいざわせんせいがくろぎりをみかたにつけたってきいてーーー
Aizawa-sensei ga Kurogiri wo mikata ni tsuketa tte kiite---
"I heard that Aizawa-sensei got Kurogiri to join our side---"
5
友だちがまだ戦ってんの見てーー…
ともだちがまだたたかってんのみてーー…
tomodachi ga mada tatakatten no mite--...
"I saw that my friends were still fighting--..."
6
行かずにいられましょうか
いかずにいられましょうか
ikazu ni iraremashou ka
"And I felt like I had to go."
7
意識がある内は…どこへだって！
いしきがあるうちは…どこへだって！
ishiki ga aru uchi wa...doko e datte!
"As long as I'm conscious...to wherever you go!"
8
勝つ為にここまでやってきたもんね
かつためにここまでやってきたもんね
katsu tame ni koko made yatte kita mon ne
"We've come this far for the sake of winning."
9
今日踏んばれなきゃ
きょうふんばれなきゃ
kyou funbarenakya
"Today we have to stand firm."
10
何の為にヒーローを夢見たかわかりゃしねえ！だからよお〜〜
なんのためにヒーローをゆめみたかわかりゃしねえ！だからよお〜〜
nan no tame ni HIIROO wo yumemita ka wakarya shinee! dakara yoo~~
"For what reason did we dream of becoming heroes! That's why!~~"
11
みんな…！
minna...!
"Everyone...!"
1
オイラたちが
OIRA-tachi ga
"We"
2
来た‼︎
きた‼︎
kita!!
"are here!!"
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No.421 WE ARE HERE 堀越耕平
ナンバー421 ウィー・アー・ヒア ほりこしこうへい
NANBAA 421 UII AA HIA Horikoshi Kouhei
No. 421 WE ARE HERE Kouhei Horikos
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灰色の肉が並んでいる…
はいいろのにくがならんでいる…
haiiro no niku ga narande iru...
(literal.) "Gray bodies are lined up..."
(context.) "You are all just gray bodies to me..."
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本来ならば僕は弔の一部として…もろともうちくだかれていたのだろう
ほんらいならばぼくはとむらのいちぶとして…もろともうちくだかれていたのだろう
honrai naraba boku wa Tomura no ichibu to shite...morotomo uchikudakarete ita no darou
Originally, as a part of Tomura...I probably would have have been destroyed along with him.
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だが
daga
But,
4
与一が砕ける音を聞いた時
よいちがくだけるおとをきいたとき
Yoichi ga kudakeru oto wo kiita toki
when I heard the sound of Yoichi smashing to pieces,
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僕の世界は色褪せた
ぼくのせかいはいろあせた
boku no sekai wa iroaseta
the color of my world faded.
6
執心を喪い
しゅうしんをうしない
shuushin wo ushinai
"I've lost my passion,"
7
故に
ゆえに
yue ni
"therefore,"
8
喪失の穴に通る攻撃はなくーー…
そうしつのあなにとおるこうげきはなくーー…
soushitsu no ana ni tooru kougeki wa naku--...
"there is no attack that can pierce through my loss--..."
9
僕は止めを免れたのだ
ぼくはとどめをまぬがれたのだ
boku wa todome wo manugareta no da
"I am the one who escaped the final blow."
10
今なら理解る
いまならわかる
ima nara wakaru (kanji: rikairu)
"Now I understand,"
11
緑谷出久
みどりやいずく
Midoriya Izuku
"Izuku Midoriya."
1
悲劇こそが人を強くする
ひげきこそがひとをつよくする
higeki koso ga hito wo tsuyoku suru
"It is tragedy that makes people stronger."
2
そう思わないか？
そうおもわないか？
sou omowanai ka?
"Don't you think so?"
3
どうだろね
dou daro ne
"I don't know about that."
4
あんたらみてーに起伏に富んだ人生じゃねえから
あんたらみてーにきふくにとんだじんせいじゃねえから
antara mitee ni kifuku ni tonda jinsei ja nee kara
"My life is not full of ups and downs like all of yours."
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「明日の実技置いてかれねーよーに」とか…そういう事でしか俺は頑張ってこなかったな
「あしたのじつぎおいてかれねーよーに」とか…そういうことでしかおれはがんばってこなかったな
「ashita no jitsugi oitekarenee yoo ni」 toka...sou iu koto de shika ore wa ganbatte konakatta na
"I had no reasons to try my best other than things like...'I don't want to be left behind at tomorrow's practicals.'"
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それに
sore ni
"Also,"
7
今日まで大変そうだったよ
きょうまでたいへんそうだったよ
kyou made taihen sou datta yo
"until today, he seemed like he'd had it rough,"
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かつてガンギマリだった彼は
かつてガンギマリだったかれは
katsute GANGIMARI datta kare wa
"and one time his face was so intense and distant*."
(Note: What Sero is saying here is that one time Shouto had this look on his face that is described by the Japanese slang word: gangimari. Gangimari refers to an intense, eyes-wide face that comes from a marijuana high. It also refers to a feeling of emptiness that comes with the high. If you search for images of the face, you'll see it's often a frightening look. I believe Sero here is referring to the face Shouto makes at him in their sports festival battle in chapter 34, so I believe this description is meant to refer to how Shouto was overwhelmed with anger and mentally somewhat removed from the fight itself.)
1
悲しー事なんざ
かなしーことなんざ
kanashii koto nan za
"[I think] such sad things"
2
あるよりない方が良いだろ‼︎
あるよりないほうがいいだろ‼︎
aru yori nai hou ga ii daro!!
"would be better not to have than to have!!"
3
赫灼
かくしゃく
kakushaku
Flashfire
4
熱拳
ねっけん
nekken
Fist
1
早くリカバリーガールの元へ…！
はやくリカバリーガールのもとへ…！
hayaku RIKABARII GAARU no moto e...!
Quickly, to where Recovery Girl is...!
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婆さんも怪我人(?)をX続けて限界(?)だ…XXできるかどうか…
ばあさんもけがにん(?)をXつづけてげんかい(?)だ…XXできるかどうか…
baasan mo keganin(?) wo X tsudzukete genkai(?) da... XX dekiru ka dou ka...
(Note: This line is only partly legible. I've skipped figuring it out in the interest of time and may come back to it later. The gist of this line is something like "The old lady is also at her limit with injured persons... Whether or not anything can be done...")
3
あんたいても母さんたち熱いだけだ
あんたいてもかあさんたちあついだけだ
anta itemo kaasan-tachi atsui dake da
Even with you, mom and the others will only be hot.
4
行きなよ
いきなよ
iki na yo
So go.
5
まだ少しでも
まだすこしでも
mada sukoshi demo
Even if it's [just] a little,
6
力が出るんなら
ちからがでるんなら
chikara ga derun nara
if you can muster [any] strength...
7
ってな！
tte na!
"That's what"!"
8
荼毘に勝ったって聞いた時ちょっと思った！
だびにかったってきいたときちょっとおもった！
Dabi ni katta tte kiita toki chotto omotta!
"When I heard you won against Dabi, I thought about that for a moment!"
9
……ありがとう…
......arigatou...
"......Thank you..."
10
戦える奴召集完了
たたかえるやつしょうしゅうかんりょう
tatakaeru yatsu shoushuu kanryou
"Recruiting of those who can fight complete."
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ガイズ‼︎今日が分水嶺だ‼︎
ガイズ‼︎きょうがぶんすいれいだ‼︎
GAIZU!! kyou ga bunsuire da!!
"Guys! Today is a watershed [moment]!!"
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行こう‼︎最後の大仕事だ!!!
いこう‼︎さいごのおおしごとだ!!!
ikou!! saigo no ooshigoto da!!!
"Let's go!! It's the last big job!!!"
3
手負いのヒーロー…これだけの数がいて何も感じないのは…寂しいものだな
ておいのヒーロー…これだけのかずがいてなにもかんじないのは…さびしいものだな
teoi no HIIROO...kore dake no kazu ga ite nani mo kanjinai no wa...sabishii mono da na
"Wounded heroes... With just this number of them here I don't feel anything... How lonely."
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オールマイトに届きえぬ屑肉に
オールマイトにとどきえぬくずにくに
OORU MAITO ni todokienu kuzuniku ni
"You scraps of meat who can't match All Might,"
1
掃き掃除だ
はきそうじだ
hakisouji da
"I'll sweep and clean you up."
2
逸らせえ‼︎
そらせえ‼︎
sorasee!!
"Deflect!!"
1
速ぇ…！
はえぇ…！
haee...!
"Hurry...!"
2
一つの挙動に数十人で対処しなきゃ
ひとつのきょどうにすうじゅうにんでたいしょしなきゃ
hitotsu no kyodou ni suujuunin de taisho shinakya
"If dozens of you have to deal with a single action."
3
戦いになんねえ！
たたかいになんねえ！
tatakai ni nannee!
"this won't become a battle!"
4
みんな離れないで‼︎
みんなはなれないで‼︎
minna hanarenaide!!
(literal.) "Everyone, we can't be apart!!"
(contextual.) "Everyone, we can't be scattered!!"
5
一かたまりになって戦おう！
ひとかたまりになってたたかおう！
hito katamari ni natte tatakaou!
"Let's fight as one bunch!"
6
行かなきゃーーー
いかなきゃーーー
ikanakya---
"I have to go---"
7
体が…！
からだが…！
karada ga...!
My body...!
8
戻ったのはあくまで数分
もどったのはあくまですうふん
modotta no wa akumade suufun
"Only a few minutes were returned [to you],"
9
腕を失う少し前まで…
うでをうしなうすこしまえまで…
ude wo ushinau sukoshi mae made...
"to a little bit before you lost your arms..."
10
継戦のダメージは残ったままだ
けいせんのダメージはのこったままだ
keisen no DAMEEJI wa nokotta mama da
The damage from the rest of the battle remains.
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…どれ程長く激しい戦いを…
…どれほどながくはげしいたたかいを…
...dore hodo nagaku hageshii tatakai wo...
"...What a long and violent battle..."
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…っ
...
"...gh!"
13
僕は…OFAをなげうちました
ぼくは…ワン・フォー・オールをなげうちました
boku wa...WAN FOO OORU wo nageuchimashita
"I...relinquished One For All."
1
ないのか⁉︎
nai no ka!?
"It's gone!?"
2
歴代の"個性"は……でも…
れきだいの"こせい"は……でも…
rekidai no "kosei" wa......demo...
"The successive generations' quirks are......but..."
3
短い時間だったけど…
みじかいじかんだったけど…
mijikai jikan datta kedo...
"[I had it for] a short time, but..."
4
"無個性"の僕に染みついてる…
"むこせい"のぼくにしみついてる…
"mukosei" no boku ni shimitsuiteru...
"it's ingrained in me [as I'm] quirkless..."
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オールマイトがそうだったように
OORU MAITO ga sou datta you ni
Just like with All Might.
7
まだ残り火があります
まだのこりびがあります
mada nokoribi ga arimasu
"I still have the [lingering] embers."
1
残り火があれば…AFOあいつは…
のこりびがあれば…オール・フォー・ワンあいつは…
nokoribi ga areba...OORU FOO WAN aitsu wa...
"If I have the embers...then that All For One..."
(Note: This line is partly cut off, so I made some educated guesses.)
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……緑谷
……みどりや
......Midoriya
"......Midoriya,"
3
傷薬と包帯あと…体を冷やしちゃいけない
きずぐすりとほうたいあと…からだをひやしちゃいけない
kizugusuri to houtai ato...karada wo hiyashicha ikenai
"After a wound salve and bandage...don't let your body relax."
4
避難先の方々からだ
ひなんさきのかたがたからだ
hinan saki no katagata kara da
"It's from the people who evacuated."
5
メンズノンノの全サ第五弾Tシャツ…！
メンズノンノのぜんサだいごだんTシャツ…！
MENZU NON NO no zen SA daigodan T SHATSU...!
"A Men's Non-No one-size-fits-all fifth edition t-shirt...!"
(Note: Men's Non-No is a men's fashion magazine.)
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走ろう☆
はしろう☆
hashirou ☆
"Let's run ☆"
7
僕らは君の力が必要だし君も僕らの力が必要だ
ぼくらはきみのちからがひつようだしきみもぼくらのちからがひつようだ
bokura wa kimi no chikara ga hitsuyou da shi kimi mo bokura no chikara ga hitsuyou da
"We need your strength, and you also need our strength."
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この手を握ってくれ青山くん
このてをにぎってくれあおやまくん
kono te wo nigitte kure Aoyama-kun
Please grasp my hand, Aoyama-kun.
1
頑張れ…‼︎
がんばれ…‼︎
ganbare...!!
"Do your best...!!"
2
皆
みんな
minna
"Everyone"
3
一緒に戦ってくれてるよ
いっしょにたたかってくれてるよ
issho ni tatakatte kureteru yo
"is fighting together!"
4
デクさん
DEKU-san
"Mr. Deku!"
5
緑谷兄ちゃん
みどりやにいちゃん
Midoriya-niichan
"Big Bro Midoriya!"
6
デク…！
DEKU...!
"Deku...!"
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頑張れ
がんばれ
ganbare
Do your best!
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少年は走るーーー
しょうねんははしるーーー
shounen wa hashiru---
The young man* runs---
*(Note: This word can mean "boy," but it's also the word All Might uses for Izuku that often gets translated as "young man." Both work.)
#oh ok#so maybe there is a dabi reference?#are they trying to get him to Recovery Girl?#bnha 421#bnha manga leaks#bnha manga spoilers#the gangimari at least will entertain the fan artists#i can't wait to see all the art of stoned shoto
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You had asked somewhere for Canon dabi fics and this one is a favorite of mine
https://archiveofourown.org/series/3091767
although - spoiler alert!! - he does eventually get a redemption arc
This fic takes place after the first war there are others but they're aus and not sure if you wanted it strictly following Canon events
Thanks!
I love Touya getting a redemption arc! I just like him to start / have some canon-close background, that's all.
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Could it be that Izuku will acknowledge Shouto in a major way (because Shouto will support him with his all) that Horikoshi left it out for now? I want to be hopeful because it makes 0 sense for him to actually react to everyone but him. Iida isn't there yet either, and their dynamic and relationship is highlighted. Hoping something else will make it up for this we were all waiting for so long especially for Shouto and Izuku interaction..
Hopefully. Not only Deku - nobody reacted or talked to Shoto and the flashback also was from Endeavor's perspective it seems.
Now that Shouto is on the battlefield, it's possible that we will get an Origin Trio combo too. But it would be nice if he interacted with Izuku...
Iida is a curious case, because he's sure not too injured. Maybe he ran to princess carry Bakugou to the battlefield.
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BNHA 421 leaks - The Final Villain is DEPRESSION
Welp, I guess I can cross the Todoroki combo off my bingo... (I wish it got a double spread at least - it's the first one ever (but we know how allergic Hori is to put any of Shoto's key moments on a double page).
I also wish Toya was there too. Btw, not cool how Hori offscreened the whole family stuff, but I guess being coy about what happened to Toya is a sure sign that he'll be showing up too - possibly with Toga, Spinner and Compress). Maybe there is something more there, at least pikahlua's TLs show that the leak summary left a lot out and Toya may be on his way to Recovery Girl. I'm still keeping it on my bingo that the LoV will show up.
Sero yanking around the Todorokis and calling Shoto gangimari face is kind of funny, but also doesn't have enough build-up to fully land what Hori was likely going for.
Also, the way Shoto and Izuku are finally on the same battlefield and still zero interaction. Izuku reacts to every secondary minor character, but god forbid we get his reaction to Shoto's first win or his appearance on the battlefield.
Otherwise, things go as I expected. Shoto showed up (though no power-up sadly), so all the naysayers can shut up. Also, that puts an Origin Trio combo on the table.
Deku has OFA embers only. I'm really not that worried - probably ready for some quirk awakening or will get a quirk back. He won't be flipping burgers, don't listen to the naysayers.
Him reciting the All Might merch coordinates is cute.
The moment with Aoyama is a...parallel.
If anyone worries, Iida, Uraraka and Bakugou will show up too. I expect Tokoyami and Hawks as well. Remember how Iida wouldn't pass the provisional licensing exam until all his classmates did? I'm sure Class Prez Iida will personally princess carry Bakugou into the final battle if he needs to, to ensure that all of A-gumi is accounted for.
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What would you have changed with toga’s arc?
I don't care enough about Toga to think about it too deeply. I also don't think Horikoshi is capable of writing a realistic f/f dynamic. Rant under the cut.
To me, Toga was most interesting in her LoV dynamics - with Twice, with Compress, with Dabi.
I find her dynamic with Ochako to resemble a lot of really toxic dynamics I experienced with (girl) friends. It's a kind of emotional vampirism where your entire existence is about validating someone's constant problems to the detriment to your own well-being and they get to freely hurt you if you don't respond exactly how they want you to.
And Hori romanticized this (well, more like horny-arted), as well as made it the pinnacle of her heroine's heroism.
I think the change would have had to come on Ochako's side. Especially because she's never shown to care about anyone but Deku before, her obsession with going to extreme lengths for Toga needed more build-up than "I saw her cry".
Anyways, I continue to dislike this storyline personally. And I find the hype around it really agenda-driven with the whole "Ochako deserves better than Deku - let's stick her with the girl who almost killed her".
I don't really like iz/ocha either btw, so I have no skin in this particular fight, but I just don't vibe at all with this storyline and find it disturbing on many levels.
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