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Apollo once mentioned one of Hermes’s kids in a conversation and Hermes was very confused and asked “who’s that??” and Apollo slapped him then went to find that kid and spend a whole day doing father child activities.
Now for some reason all the kids at camp want their parents to forget who they are.
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The gods ranked by how well they would take being mortal
Apollo: actually the ideal god to go through this. He has been mortal twice before and is pretty great socially as well. He was able to recruit three of the Emperors minions right from under them. He was able to adjust to being mortal pretty fast and doesn’t even consider his trials to be a punishment by the end. 9/10 was here to make friends and succeed.
Artemis: has a team of hunters to help her. Probably has the best overall relationship with mortals. However she will not take the loss of power well at all. 8/10 will endure well but won’t enjoy
Hermes: Hell yeah gods can change and it would be excellent for him to get some character development. He is a trickster as well which is going really help the sudden lack of power 7/10 growth isn’t going to be an easy or fun process
Hera: Hera is a very interesting character and has a lot of depth. Total jerk but she has her reasons and a lot of room for growth. Honestly she is so high because everyone below here I can easily see dying at some point. 5/10 evil stepmom for the win
Athena: look Athena might be wise but she is also very very prideful. Decaying memories, failing talents, an utter certainty that she is right, Zeus’s favorite falling so low. This is not a good combination. 3/10 your flaws can now be fatal
Hephaestus: A very chill and neutral god here. He will definitely kill himself in a mechanical accident of some kind or another. Could have an arc about learning social skills and talking to your kids. 1/10 I don’t trust his inventions not to kill him.
Ares: he lost to a twelve year old as a god. If he doesn’t die he could have a nice arc about learning to trust others but let’s be real he is going to pick a fight he very much can’t win. 0/10 dead meat.
Dionysus: look Dionysus might have been mortal once but he does not deal with his fathers punishments well. The main reason he is this low is because he has been without alcohol for so long the first thing he is going to do is get drunk. -10/10 Will die of alcohol poisoning.
Aphrodite: clearly has a lot of issues with seeing mortals as people rather than love stories. Will not take being a meat sack well at all. -11/10 I don’t trust her survival skills
Posideon: listen a significant portion of the trials of Apollo is about facing and learning from your mistakes. Myth posideon has made a lot of mistakes like seriously if you thought Apollo and the Sybil were bad posideon is something else… perhaps I am being a bit harsh here but being totally mortal means that he will have no powers and the only skill he has exhibited was fishing. He will go from being the king of the sea to being a mortal and weaker than his son. -12/10 good luck making up for past mistakes.
Zeus: too many enemies and a very bad decision maker. If he was mortal literally everyone would want to kill him. -100/10 not going to survive a day.
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Apollo: Sorry it took me so long, I broke down on the way here.
Hermes: No problem. Is the sun chariot okay?
Apollo: The sun chariot?
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Something I feel like we as a fandom don't address often is the fact that Travis and Chris are probably only a few months apart considering both went off to college by Trials of Apollo. And honestly if I was Chris's mom I'd be a little offended cuz what did Mama stoll have going on that made Hermes go back to her not even like 2 years later? Plus the fact that never bothered to even claim Chris!? Unless Rick says otherwise the ages are most likely Luke,Chris,Travis Connor,Cecil and then Julia and Alice are around the same age. I imagine Chris being slightly older than Travis which is why he went with Luke but Travis and Connor Stayed behind, as they were still young and didn't understand. If Chris is around the same age as Clarisse and the others that means there's about a 7-year age or so where Hermes didn't have any kids. This is a little understandable considering what happened with May but could you imagine what was going through Chris's mind when he was claimed by Hermes? Because at first Camp probably assumed that Hermes had Luke and then nobody until he had two kids with one woman which already is weird and odd for a god but then they find out that he had another son before the the Stoll Brothers and there was something so unique about that woman that she got his attention after so long of him being with no one yet he doesn't even bother to claim her son. he claims the Sons of a woman he probably met a few months later after there fling or maybe even during. then went back to her for a round two yet never addresses her or her son again until her son literally insane. Can you imagine the pain Chris must have felt realizing how disrespected his mother was by his father? How he could not do the same which is why he stands by Clarisse's side even when she won't fight in a war because he isn't his father son? The Dynamics between the gods and their children are so interesting but unless you're a main character they're not really Address and I'm hoping they address or give Chris more of a backstory in the show considering they introduced him so early.
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I think Hermes feels trapped in his role as divine messenger in PJO because the mortals heavily believe that's his main function as a god. The main problem is he's defined as Zeus' messenger or the messenger of the gods in PJO almost exclusively. In PJO, gods and their personalities are significantly shaped by mortal belief. If that's the narrative surrounding him, he's not exactly in the best of places.
Zeus takes advantage of this since he knows that if Hermes were to attempt to quit or leave, he'd fade or lose significant amounts of his powers due to these beliefs. Add him being loyal to his family, not being heavily worshipped anymore, being at the mercy of the Fates, and having virtually no allies because he's seen as a snitch and you have a deadly mixture. Zeus also has Eris watching him while she’s working for Hermes (I think Zeus mandated that he hire her). That way Hermes has to be on his best behavior.
He may be using workaholism to cope. Feeling as if he has no agency since people see him as an extension of Zeus' and the other council members' wills. He might even be having an identity issue not knowing if he's himself or just reflecting expectations of others. I bet he loves the good that comes from his work and how many people he can help, just not the constant pressure and disrespect.
Basically, imagine you're feeling so small and insignificant that you could be easily packed into a tight little box. Plus Zeus wants this considering it keeps Hermes down and unable to feel his full influence and strength.
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Hold on
Travis and Connor stoll arent twins
So what the fuck does their mother do to make Hermes come (poor choice of words) twice?
Like that woman has to be either the worlds best mail woman or a thief.
Also, I'm sorry but these boys for some reason have my brain in a chokehold, and I'm working on an angsty oneshot for Travis rn.
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soooo shadow travel.
Canonically, Hecates kids can pull a shadow traveler off course pretty easily as shadow-travel is a type of magic.
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Hylla shrugged. 'Shadow-travel is magic. Several of my followers are daughters of Hecate. It was a simple enough matter for them to pull you off course, especially since you and I share a connection." Reyna tried to keep her anger in check. Hylla, of all people, should know how she would feel about being dragged back to Puerto Rico.
With that information I would like to offer you Lou Ellen fucking with Nicos shadow travel to piss him off. anyways
Hecate can shadow travel as well
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Shadow Travel: Hecate can use shadows as a way of swift transportation over vast distances
On the wiki for shadow travel,
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Deities such as Hecate, Persephone, or Hermes can enter or leave the Underworld at will. Hence, their demigod children can probably shadow travel as well, if trained properly.
This actually opens up...a lot of doors? Children of Hecate and Hermes may have the ability to shadow travel? It would be a lesser extent then Nico and Hazel, and it would definitely take longer to learn and control but like?? THATS SO COOL??
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I was talking in discord about Hermes and Artemis and wanted to share it here as well.
I headcanon that Hermes at the end of toa is going into denial because he always believed gods do not change, as a sort of comfort to him failing to save Luke and the other mistakes he made. Seeing apollo be openly changed is making him doubt himself and he lashes out due to this. He doesn't want to believe apollo has changed, because that means gods were always capable of change and he no longer has his biggest defense for his actions.
he needs more character development and is a very interesting character to explore. Given how he contrasts apollo in many ways.
Mythologically he and apollo are close and I tend to borrow that as backstory when I think about them. I think between him and apollo there's a lot of stuff they haven't worked out. For two who claim to be best friends on paper, they haven't acted like it in a while.
There's probably a lot of unaddressed grudges (May castellan comes to mind immediately and that's only one from recent decades. There could be more going centuries back.)
On Artemis:
In TOA, its clear that Artemis still hasn't gotten over her delusions of Zeus and her own image of Apollo being a dramatic airhead (that apollo encouraged to protect her and himself..)
Apollo cannot be open with her because she would rebut him if he ever brings up this vulnerable topic and it would really hurt him. He just newly finally accepted the truth and her rebuttal or reiteration of past beliefs would be a terrible hit. But making her understand puts artemis in the same horrible shock apollo went through.
Hence they cannot bond properly because they always have to keep up walls around each other to sort of protect each other, in a messed up way.
Chronic: what do you think Artemis would think of Apollo's change post toa? I can't imagine her not being weirded out by it, since Apollo being loud and an idiot seems pretty baked into her perception of him
but toa altered his personality (the way she knew it at least) pretty fundamentally.
Me: I think this could work pretty well. To do initial bonding over this and then work out their misunderstandings about each other once they've gotten a degree of closeness back.
I have hope that this will encourage artemis to look at apollo through a new lense and be more open. Which is why I feel at the end of toa, they have more hope than ever before of actually understanding each other. They need to put in some work first though.
Someone once said artemis fatal flaw is righteousness and I've agreed ever since. ❤️‍🔥It also lines up nicely with mythology.
You can see her thinking her leaving Olympus and their fakeness for the hunt is her version of righteousness and she feels that she's on the right, hence she doesn't pause to examine things closely anymore. She's come to decisions about Apollo and the others. But this leaves nuances out and ended up hurting her and Apollo's relationship.
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Idk why but i have a stupid headcanon that Luke is completly civil and perhaps even nice to George and Martha
Like they haven't done shit to him infact he feels pity for them cus they have to deal with Hermes shit all day
Hermes is losing his shit over it.
Luke: Hello, George, Martha....*glares at Hermes* the whore.
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Another parallel between Percy and Luke is how both of their dads seem to want to break that typical rules just to be there for them but can't do anything about it but watch and help at the sidelines. Poseidon even told Hermes directly that getting involved would cause more problems than help at all.
After Hermes failed to help his son and his son's mother however, he actively decided that he should stay away from everything and would rather not get directly involved like what his uncle advised him all those years ago.
Poseidon on the other hand is trying his best to help his son and his son's mother even if he decided to stay away before and despite knowing it might get worse if he does intervene.
It's because Hermes had already lost everything when his family broke apart while Poseidon has nothing left to lose with the inevitable threat to his.
The parallels aren't just between Luke and Percy. The parallels extend to their fathers.
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Not to be a Luke apologist or anything but...
Remember how his mom tried to become the new Oracle but it backfired and every now and then (which is quite frequent) she lashes out and spits the green smoke and talks about how good it is to see him with blue eyes and stuff? And then that's one of the main reasons why Luke ran away because as a child growing up with that when ur not even 10 years old is emotionally scarring.
When he went to consult the oracle about his quest do you think he got Flashbacks? Do you think he remembered all the times his mother would hold him in an iron grip and spew green smoke and thank him for not having golden eyes?
Do you think he backed up to the door of the attic and stared in horror as this corpse spewed a prophecy with the exact same green smoke? Do you think he saw a part of his mother in that room?
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This is not my original post it belongs to @caffeinatedflumadiddlebutpjo who deleted their account but it’s so good and needs to be preserved
I like that there is just... A noticeable gap in the gods' under standing of mortal children. Like, Zeus really accused a TWELVE-YEAR-OLD of stealing his master bolt and the only justification I have for this is "Well, Hermes stole Apollo's cattle right after birth so that tracks".
But now I have a theory that the gods don't rediv understand how mortal
children work and that's why they're so blase about sending them to do ridiculous nonsense?
Like...
Zeus: What do you mean 'first word'? Why would they only speak one word?
Artemis: Humans can only cry when they are born.
Zeus: Nonsense. When vou were born you didn't cry. You delivered your brother and then came to me to ask for a birthday present.
Artemis: Humans aren't the same though. They can't walk or talk for many months. When they do speak it is only in small, short words.
Zeus: …that's not true
Artemis: I'm afraid it is
Zeus, under his breath: What the fuck
Later on...
Zeus: Did you know human babies can't speak when thev're tirst born?
Poseidon: that's so sad. Are demigods like that?
Zeus: I have no idea.
Poseidon: Mavbe we should ask around more. Athena was saying something about brain development.
Zeus: Their... THEIR BRAINS AREN'T DEVELOPED?!?!
Poseidon: I guess
Zeus: THESE HUMANS ARE WALKING AROUND WITHOUT FULLY FORMED BRAINS?!
Poseidon: I mean, so are you and I don't complain.
The quest continues...
Hermes: So... you're telling me that human kids don't know how to fend themselves at all? They need to be taught? I mean, fighting, of course, but outside of that???
Poseidon: Yeah, I thought it was like fish
where you just naturally know what you’re supposed to do. But apparently they have no idea and need to be shown everything
Hermes: I... that's awful. Why?
Poseidon: I don't know.
Suddenly all the gods are very concerned...
Ares: You mean to tell me that my kids are probably traumatized from war??
Hermes: That's what the research shows. Human kids aren't supposed to handle that kind of stuff and demigods are more human than we anticipated.
Ares: But... War?
Hermes: Idk what to tell you, bud. I'm beginning to understand why they hate us tho.
Everyone is naturally panicking
Demeter: YOU SENT MONSTERS AFTER MY BABIES WHEN THEY HAD NO BRAINS AND COULDN'T EVEN READ?!?
Hecate: HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT DEMIGODS WEREN'T BORN KNOWING HOW TO READ!?!?!
Athena: Our children all have dyslexia.
Demeter: YOU LET YOUR DAUGHTERRUN AWAY WHEN SHE WAS SEVEN! SILENCE!
Athena:…And? She is very mature and had my protection. I'm not like the rest of you. rhave done my researcn on humans and led her accordingly.
Apollo: Think of it this way, Athena. She would have just started losing baby teeth when she left home.
Athena: What?
Apollo: According to my son, they shed teeth. Like, they fall out and get new, bigger ones when they re old enougn. Didn't you know that?
Hades: That's disgusting. Our children do that?
Athena: I... That's not true! Your son is a liar!
Apollo: I AM THE GOD OF TRUTH!
It's a whole thing on Olympus
Hephaestus: Wait, they NEED to eat?!?! It isn't just for fun???
Hermes: What about water???
Dionysus: How do none ot vou know these things. Maybe you all should be camp directors for awhile-
Hades: Eight hours? They need EIGHT hours of sleep? A Day? There's no way NICO Is getting that much..
Dionysus: Oh, are they? Yeah lol. None of them are getting that much.
Aphrodite: Oh my gods... What happens if they don't get enough? Do they become ugly? ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE MY KIDS UGLY?!
Zeus: They're so fragile. Why are they even allowed out of the camp?! Chiron, explain!
Chiron: You... Uh, ask them to do stuff for you?
All of Olympus: *flips a table*
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gonna need a little more appreciation for the kids in cabins where powers are never mentioned
like c’mon. you’re telling me that hermes kids can RuN fAsT. i want a hermes kids that’s like Gwen from ben 10 and can put up glowing gold force fields
i want dionysus kids that can grow grape vines but can also mess with peoples sanity when they need too
athena is also the goddess of practical reason so athena kids should be really bloody persuasive kinda like charm speak with the aphrodite kids
hephaestus kids that can’t set themselves of fire but are just very heat resistant in general or can weld shit together with their bare hands, or can sharpen a blade edge just by running their fingers along it
hebe campers who can alter how old they appear to certain people
tyche kids who can quite literally determine anything, they can alter peoples chances at winning or losing, living or dying
these kids are the children of Gods and Goddess, no more of this
“the kids of the big three have these amazing strong powers, oh and the Apollo kids can glow, and some of the other main characters can do some cool shit” GIMME EVERYONE BEING ABLE TO DO COOL SHIT. GIMME PURE CHAOS.
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Connor: *holding a laptop* Travis: *putting the projector on* Chris: Seeing as we all know Hermes does not love us in favor of Luke Alice: We've decided to rename ourselves Cecil: from now on... Chris: I'm Mexican Luke Travis: I'm Replacement Luke Connor: I'm Non-Binary Luke Alice: I'm Japanese Luke Julia: I'm Girl Luke Cecil: And I'm Cooking Luke Chiron: why the fuck are you in my bedroom
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Ok no Hermes saying “Do you know what that feels like? To be so close to someone you love, knowing neither of you has any choice but to keep hurting each other? I know you do” to Percy and then making him have a flashback to sitting in the back of a car in front what I’m assuming is a school looking sadder than a 10 year old has any right to be was absolutely CRIMINAL
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