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agendratum · 1 month
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Word of Honor as text posts (48/?)
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tbgkaru-woh · 1 year
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Word of Honor modern!AU
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zegalba · 2 years
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Hu Yang, Zhao Jing
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taikanyohou · 11 months
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“Failing to defend yourself feels terrible, right? Unable to confess. Betrayed by all. Isolated without help.” WORD OF HONOR (2021). Episode 33.
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What draws me most to the dynamic between Xie Wang and Zhao Jing (woh canon) is that it's painful at first to watch how blindly Xie Wang trusts Zhao Jing's every word, and how easily Zhao Jing twists every suspicion into affirmation. How Zhao Jing toys with Xie Wang's emotions with practiced ease, intending to toss him aside when his usefulness expires. But during that whole time, since the beginning, as Zhao Jing is feeling so content with himself over how easily he's able to control Xie Wang, he's completely unaware and underestimating the lengths Xie Wang is willing to go to control and possess him back. Every strategic sweet thing he says is feeding it further. The more emotionally attached Xie Wang gets, the harder it will be to make him let go. The bigger the feeling of betrayal, the more ruthless the method of making sure he will never do that again.
And then watching Xie Wang do exactly that.
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feng-huli · 1 month
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Drew this last year for JGY’s birthday but never posted it here. I hope he enjoys his tea with Zhao Jing 🍵
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MDPC TOURNEY ROUND ONE: FANTASY CHILD ABUSE, REAL PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE
Which one of these assholes fucked up their kid(s) worse?
Propaganda:
Zhao Jing:
Look he was such a piece of shit to my baby Xie'er. Like talk about manipulative. Takes this little orphan boy in as a foster son and then grooms him into a perfect weapon for him. Xie'er is so desperate to be acknowledged as his son in front of everyone and Win his approval that he's willing to literally kill anyone and everyone to get it. But even though Xie'er is so devoted to him and loves him and just wants to be a good son, Zhao Jing doesn't care about him at all and sees him simply as a tool to be used. He's so cocky about how he's manipulated him that even though his son is the leader of one of the most advanced assassin organizations out there, he still thinks he can simply kill him when he's outlived his usefulness to him. I mean he's evil in a lot of other ways too but as Xie'er stan, I'm particularly upset at his shitty parenting.
Finwe:
King Finwe is the only elf to ever remarry, and he did so because he wanted more kids, but he has no idea how to raise them. When Finwe's first wife died, their son Feanor did not take it well, and everyone blamed Feanor for her death. Feanor was opposed to Finwe's remarriage, and Finwe put in basically no effort to help Feanor and his half-siblings get along. Feanor moved out at the elf version of 18 to avoid sharing a roof with Finwe and the younger kids. Eventually, family tensions get so high that Fingolfin (one of Finwe's younger sons) accuses Feanor of being a traitor to Finwe. Feanor responds by threatening Fingolfin at swordpoint. Finwe tries to sweep the matter under the rug. When Finwe's second wife gets the Valar (gods) to do something about it, they exile Feanor. Finwe decides to go into exile with Feanor, reasoning that the Valar are being unfair in making Finwe's favorite son experience consequences. Has child. Wife die, remarries. Firstborn manage to be the first murder ever and also menaces his half-brother. Gods says it's not cool. Finwë sides with his Firstborn. His first wife died very tragically and traumatically while their first son was still young and he did not handle his remarriage (which he had to get a special permit from the gods for as elves normally didn’t do it. Mainly because in choosing another wife it meant his first wife could never be reembodied when normally she would have been. She said she wouldn’t want to be but this meant she couldn’t change her mind and was stuck there for all eternity) He made clear to his four more children that he loved the first child more than them but yet it did basically nothing to solve, and probably worsened, the issues of the first child i (the child had issues of his own as well, possibly bipolar disorder, most likely some kind of depression). He created an atmosphere in the royal family of which he was king where all his children but chiefly his eldest two sons constantly had to fight for his affection and esteem (this isn’t kids these are grown adults of over a hundred) and it fostered a degree of hate that led to the first son holding a sword to the others throat out of fear that he would be disinherited. Then Finwe sides with him and leaves his wife and children behind to go live with him and yet somehow does nothing to stop the fact that his first son, who had always had issues some of which stemmed directly from his paranoia that his father only remarried because his first son wasn’t enough (he did actually remarry for more kids), is literally losing his mind. He never seemed to notice or care about how messed up the psyches of his children were getting, and fed into all their inferiority issues and fear of replacement. His terrible parenting skills ultimately led to many people getting killed and a permanent rift between the sides of his family that changed the course of the history of middle earth.
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friedwizardwhispers · 10 months
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You know,considering his circumstances, Wen Kexing did a great job as a parent with Gu Xiang.
It's funny because I do think you could use the way Wen Kexing brought Gu Xiang up and the Zhao Jing raised Xie Wang as foils to each other.
Gu Xiang and Wen Kexing spent years probably struggling to survive but they loved each other and nobody was using the other for something or being abusive to the other and so Gu Xiang still dies but she does so knowing Wen Kexing is her brother and in his arms and he avenge her.
Zhao Jing and Xie Wang probably didn't have to struggle to survive when they were together (I don't know about before though) Zhao Jing is rich and the matter of survival would not have been an issue,but damn if he isn't abusive and using Xie Wang to do his dirty business all over the place,. both dies at the same time with theirs relationship is completely destroyed with the knowledge that Zhao Jing would never, in a million years do what Wen Kexing does in episode 35 for Xie Wang and by the end of the series, Xie Wang know it (woah now I'm sorta sad about him).
(it feels really weird to compare both relationships when one is a very wholesome family dynamic and the other has implications of grooming and romantic undertone *shudders* but here I am)
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xiao-chuhe · 1 year
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Please note that Mei Changsu is automatically excluded from this poll by virtue of him being able to blow every single one of them out of the water with his scheming :')
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hattedhedgehog · 7 months
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Outside, but still hidden.
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I realised I've never drawn Zhaoxie before despite it being one of the most fascinating relationships in Word of Honor. When I saw THESE incredible cloth Zhaoxie dolls in little photoshoot scenes, I was so inspired, and vowed to paint something based on them. (It may have taken months to get around to it but I did it!)
Painted in Procreate.
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[Image description: a painting of Xie'er and Zhao Jing from Word of Honor. Xie'er, in his light blue robes, is on his back under a bush of yellow flowers, his head pillowed on Jhao Jing's cloak, reaching up with his left arm while Zhao Jing hovers above him, hands on the ground wither size of his hips. Xie'er's right hand plucks teaingly at Zhao Jing's blue crane robes to beckon him closer. Zhao Jing looks reserved but fond, as if trying to maintain distance, but can't help his affection for Xie'er slipping through. A shadow from the flowers falls over Xie'er's upper half, while Zhao Jing's back is lit harshly from sunlight, giving them the illusion of privacy.]
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misspermitted · 11 months
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AU where everything is the same except Zhou Xu is super acquainted with Scorpion because they both (used to) head the two biggest assassin organisations and came across eachother many many years ago.
They despise one another but in a bickering “I’m better than you” way which disguises legitimate admiration on Scorpion’s side (because the scorpion sect was founded after Window to Heaven and is clearly somewhat inspired by Xu) and begrudging affection on Xu’s side (because Scorpion is a traumatised young psycho and we know Xu has a soft spot for those).
I imagine it’s kinda like Ye Baiyu and Wen Kexing’s semi-sibling dynamic except a lot less aggressive threats and fights and more extremely venomous passive aggressive remarks, suiting their different characters.
Of course for this au to work it means Xu knows a lot more about that side of the empire. I’m imagining he’s told to bring Chengling to Zhao Jing he’s like, oh for fuck sake, that guy? The Scorpion’s owner?
Wen drags Xu to Jing’s celebratory banquet and he still ignores everyone but entirely more pointed. He’s more guarded and protective of Chengling after seeing how the douchebag snake (Jing) treats him.
Xu discovers the Scorpion Sect and the Window of Heaven are working together and he’s personally offended.
Wen’s all “Why does the Scorpion Sect matter if Chengling is safe?” and Xu is like “Because, unlike Window of Heaven, Scorpion’s assassinations are messy and lack tact, it’s a complete misuse of recourses” and Wen’s just like “…what”
The three have their dramatic meeting after killing two of the four scorpion assassins and Scorpion is like “Chief Zhou, a pleasure to see you, an unexpected pleasure, however, given I thought you were hiding away like the traitorous coward you are :)” And Xu bites back “Scorpion King, I sincerely hope you’re enjoying life as a pet dog. My apologies for killing your assassins, I truly believed they were trained enough to withstand a sick man. My mistake.”
Wen just stands there like bad news: my soulmate and Scorpion seem to know and are currently on the verge of killing one another, good news: I am very turned on right now.
Scorpion is still like “why the FUCK have those two psychos found eachother this is not good” like the icon he is.
Possible subplot of this AU: Scorpion tries to manipulate Xu into rejoining the Window of Heaven because quite simply it is so much less useful to him without Xu heading it. They just mindlessly use Xu’s previous plans and trinkets. There’s no ingenuity and it’s far less brutal and organised than it used to be. Sure the poisons are useful but that’s it.
His plan is to piss off Xu and frame the current head of Window of Heaven, hoping to make Xu angry enough at them to stage a mutiny.
He attempts this 1 time. Xu realises quickly that it was actually Scorpion, proceeds to set one of Scorpion’s bases on fire, killing a bunch of his subordinates. Scorpion gets the ‘don’t fucking try me bitch’ message and stops.
Side note to this: Xu disappears for a few days to do this. Wen goes insane. Where the fuCK IS HE ILL KILL ALL OF YOU
Xu comes back to calamity. Wen is literally the embodiment of “I thought you were never coming home so I panicked.”
Another side note: Xu realises it was Scorpion because he brutally tortured the person directly responsible for the action. Safe to say he was pissed off.
Yes I might just want more of Xu being a brutal and epic assassin lord. In my defence I think Wen would enjoy that too. Also I want Scorpion to have more friends because he’s a baby and I love him.
Ghost Lord Wen later has to deal with the dead ghosts because most of the subordinates at the base were actually his and he’s just like: Xu did w h a t
“Yeah they’re all dead, mainly burned to death because they were drugged with smoke and locked in the base.”
Bad news: my soulmate has killed a bunch of my subordinates. Good news: I am once again turned on
I just like the idea of Scorpion immediately triggering Xu’s inner incredibly brutal and violent assassin lord because Xu often fools us audience into believing he’s not a psycho just because he’s retired and I think it would be a nice juxtaposition.
“Don’t kill innocent people!!” proceeds to murder 40 people as a warning.
Xu realising Wen is the Ghost Lord goes pretty much the same except hes like “but did you HAVE to work with the Scorpion Sect.” And Wen is like “I have literally killed people. I led to the death of Chenglings family. This is what you’re upset about??” “yes”
ALSO before the offical reveal I want a discussion where Wen is like: “Do you dislike the Scorpion Sect so much because they’re… ghosts??” And Xu, having been asked this before by people in the Window of Heaven when he was still the leader, immediately triggered “The fact that they’re ghosts is not an excuse for Scorpion’s idiocy! Clearly the current lord of Ghost Valley has no issues having a well organised and competent group!!”
Wen: *blushing* oh ok
Xu, recovering himself, “oh an also murder is bad of course and ghosts are evil and everything.”
Also headcanon that when he’s really mad Xu calls Scorpian Xie’er and it’s kinda terrifying and kinda sweet
Possible extreme plot divergence where Scorpion is like ‘hey if I can heal the nails can you work for me’ and Xu is like ‘no’ but Scorpion puts it on his list anyway because he’s gonna open the armoury anyways so why not? Plus, you know, the Ghost Lord seems to care about Chief Zhou, so it could be good leverage. Totally not because Scorpion cares whether Xu dies or not. No. Definitely not. In fact he’d kill him himself if it wasn’t so inconvenient for him. Why is it inconvenient for him? Oh you know because the, uh, because, um, are you dARING TO QUESTION HIM
Wen and Scorpion end up fighting over the Yin Yang book and they almost kill one another until Xu arrives and breaks it up like “it’s fine Wen leave it alone if you die I’m going to kill you.” Wen begrudgingly backs off and Scorpion is like “fantastic now Chief Zhou come with me I’ll use the book to remove your nails.”
Wen: What
Scorpion: What?? He said he’d work for me if I removed them
Xu: no I didn’t
Scorpion: yes you did
Xu: No I didn’t. I specifically said “Respectfully, I would rather die right now then spend more time with you than necessary.”
Scorpion: Well yes but you will work for me
Xu: no I won’t
Scorpion: just come, say you will work for me and then break your word and don’t Jesus Christ do you have no survival instincts
Xu: what
Wen: you do realise I was going to use the book to heal him right? You could’ve just let me win the fight and avoided all this??
Scorpion: … oh
CONCEPT (yes I know this au post is becoming way too long but my brain box will not shut up so neither will I):
So they’re first meeting is preluded by a bunch of vicious attacks on eachother because they’re assassin organisations fighting for dominance what do you expect
And then Scorpion kidnaps one of the Window to Heaven members and tortures them to get information out of them. He reasons that this member is a lower member and the information he’d know wouldn’t be worth the manpower to save him, but it’s still information and he can’t really get anything on Window to Heaven or their mysterious leader, so worth the risk to kidnap. 2 things make this not go to plan.
1. This member is stupidly loyal to the leader of Window to Heaven. Like, will not break. Closest useful thing he says after hours of torture is when Scorpion’s main assassin says this member will not be rescued, to which they responded “I will suffer and die for my lord.” Insane.
2. While Scorpion was right that this lowly member wasn’t worth the manpower, he failed to account for the fact that Xu is feral. He literally just travelled over there himself, with no backup, slaughtered everyone, and rescued this guy. Technically not a single manpower was wasted. Less technically, what the fuck.
Scorpion arrives to check on the situation, after hearing the guy won’t break, only to find everyone dead, the young Window to Heaven member crying about how the fact that he got kidnapped put Xu in danger, and Xu in his assassin get up, covered in blood, with an awkward hand on the member’s shoulder. Scorpion just stands there for a solid minute watching this like what??? the??? fuck???!? This member has literally no importance why is he getting such treatment????????
Im just super here for Scorpion being very confused by Xu for a while because he doesn’t understand the idea of kindness. He only understands being treated well for a purpose. Our poor traumatised boy.
Tbf Xu is a merciless assassin lord out of all the people who you’d expect to express kindness you would not think him but hey the duality of Zhou Zishu we love him
Scorpion defends this confusion by being very aggressive of course which Xu responds to in turn because he’s mad he can’t pay back the losses Scorpion caused (his whole “I never suffer a loss that I don’t pay back” is very unhinged and I love that for him) as he’s been ordered to stop attacking the Scorpion Sect and come to an agreement.
“But they are disorganised and the assassins follow their own whims we could easily take them.” “Zhou I gave you an order.”
By the time Scorpion realises Xu is straight up just a kind person the rivalry has already started and he can’t really go back now woops.
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Group D, Round 1, Poll 7:
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Propaganda under the cut
Zhao Jing
makes everyone think he's just a weak-willed rich boy who can't do anything but throw extravagant parties. meanwhile he's spent like over 20 years planning how he's going to destroy everyone and take control of the martial arts world and become so powerful. literally nobody suspects him for so long because he's just like ":( guys lets calm down and be nice :(". has an adopted son that he manipulates and gaslights so much that he becomes convinced that he's actually special to him and not just another tool for him to use that he's more than willing to toss aside when he's no longer useful like he does to everyone else. literally he spends so long secretly plotting like he's so evil but only a handful of people realize it and the majority of other people are completely fooled by his charades.
Mama Mathers
One of the leaders of Fallen, a cult that worships the Endbringers. Specifically worships the Simurgh, who looks like a 15-ft tall woman with dozens or hundreds of wings and uses precognition and mind control to turn people into timebombs. Mama Mathers uses her power to influence any sense that has perceived her to watch through the eyes of anyone who has seen her, coordinate her cult, and torture anyone who tries to leave or act against her.
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tbgkaru-woh · 1 year
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Word Of Honor screencap redraws with my re-designs that can be found here: https://tbgkaru-woh.tumblr.com/post/699971568676290560/word-of-honor-tian-ya-ke-own-interpretation
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veliseraptor · 1 year
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Do you have any thoughts on Xie Wang and Zhao Jing? (woh version)
still haven't read TYK yet (it's on my list! gotta finish Qiang Jin Jiu first though) so this is in fact the only version of this relationship I could speak to! I have no idea what it looks like in the novel but I do know that the Scorpion King is a very different character there.
so this is a prime case of "got sort of distracted from the main plot by whatever the fuck was going on in that side plot" as is very typical for me in most things I read and watch.
because as I was watching and as I kept watching it just kept getting...weirder and more toxic and as I love Xie Wang an unreasonable amount (give me a pretty man desperate for the approval of an authority figure and willing to do appalling things to make that happen and I'm gone) I kept being like "buddy! stop! you deserve better, ditch his ass" re: Zhao Jing but of course he's not going to ditch his ass, he can't, both I think because of a sunk cost fallacy (he's put in this much effort! can't stop now!) and like. he loves this guy. don't understand why personally but there you go
(I don't remember if we get much/anything about how Xie Wang is tied to Zhao Jing, how they ended up linked together, but I'm fascinated by it.)
but yeah. watching over the course of the series as Xie'er gives his yifu chance after chance despite all evidence that Zhao Jing cares about him only inasmuch as he is useful and would discard him very quickly if it was expeditious to do so, continuing to believe that if he just does one more thing right then...but then he hits the limit of that and does, you know, the normal thing. namely making Zhao Jing utterly dependent on him.
it's just...he doesn't kill him, and I think that's what gets me the most about this absolute mess of a relationship. if he killed him that would be normal, for a given value of normal. but instead when Xie Wang hits the limit of his ability to make excuses for Zhao Jing's treatment of him, he still wants to keep him, and he arranges things so that he will - so that Zhao Jing will be completely in his power, but he frames it (and I do think he means it) in a way, as taking care of him.
I know it's not literally a father/son relationship but the best word I have for it is oedipal. as the kids say it's absolutely rancid and that's why it remains the part of Word of Honor I think about most. I want nice things for Xie Wang but Xie Wang wants Zhao Jing for Xie Wang which is not actually the same thing even though he'd like it to be. prime example of wanting a thing that's bad for you. into it.
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taikanyohou · 11 months
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“Yi Fu, I know you’re good at talking. As long as you talk, you can convince me of anything.” WORD OF HONOR (2021). Episode 33.
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thatswhatsushesaid · 10 months
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100% agreed about people thinking jgy is zhao jing - i had the exact same thought when i watched. also it's wild to me that so many of the same people who go on and on about how jgy is irredeemable love wenzhou and make every possible excuse for them. protag privilege i guess!
yeah are we forgetting the part where wen kexing just skinned his predecessor alive and contributed to the unjust downfall of an objectively good and honest man? several of them? “oh but he feels badly about it!!” oh well in that case—
(also before anyone decides to @ me, i love wen kexing, but i don’t think that makes his grisly murders any less grisly. let him own the blood on his hands, he worked hard for it)
also let me be clear: i would kill for wang ruolin and the passion he brings to zhao jing on screen, 100/10 wang ruolin, he is a gift and i am never going to stop feeling a little unhinged about the moment we see him literally pissing on the memorial tablets of his dead sworn brothers. like that is a man who has been so totally consumed and destroyed by his own grudges that he does not care about anyone or anything in his life anymore except proving to people who are already dead (because of him!!) that they were wrong to belittle and demean him. he has a deeply sympathetic origin story and by the end has absolutely become a villain you want to see get his comeuppance, even as you find yourself moved by his displays of humanity in private moments.
because unlike with jin guangyao, zhao jing is objectively guilty of every crime he is accused of, and has delighted in fooling the people around him about this fact for literal decades. we know this because he tells us in his naughty boy villainous soliloquies! and even if we believe that he does feel genuine affection for xie’er and luo fumeng (which i do—at least with xie’er), he still betrays or intends to betray them both, and i think if he regained control of his faculties (rather than dying ignobly outside the armoury) probably the first thing he’d do is put his hands around xie’er’s throat and kill him.
unlike jgy, whose last act in his life is to save the life of the man who stabs him through the heart.
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