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#you're negating the palestinians suffering
ragnarssons · 7 months
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these posts on this hellsite being like "oh do i wiiiish palestinians were free of hamas!" not ONCE pointing the finger at their real oppressor are clear as day. y'all do not support palestine, when you don't hold israel accountable for what they're doing to them, so stop pretending you are to buy yourself some image among ur followers or whatever. israel has spent the whole night carpet bombing gaza to the point of the zone radiating yellow and red light KILOMETERS away. so many bombs that people in egypt reported they could feel the ground shaking. (how many israelis felt too the ground shaking, and did NOTHING, or worse, celebrated?). israel has dropped white phosphorus on gaza all night. israel invaded gaza with troops and tanks, threatening every. single. citizen who was there. israel who then raided the west bank, kidnapping (there isn't any other word to use) some random people as prisoners, shooting others. you want to tell us again, how palestine "should be free of hamas" the only armed force there is in gaza? still don't want to adress the fact that the oppression of palestinians dates back 45 years prior the existence of hamas? still don't want to at least shed a little bit of the responsability israel has in all of this? then don't come using the palestinians' names and struggled to buy yourself a fucking conscience or whatever.
all y'all are doing is pushing more and more this rancid propaganda israel has been about since october 7th, to excuse every bomb they've dropped on the mass cage that is gaza. a cage israel created. a cage that israel has locked tight and thrown away the key before starting their intense bombing. it's not hamas that's bombing all the neighborhood countries in the area. it's not hamas ignoring international laws, courts and councils who did declare for a ceasefire. and despite what the idf propaganda is saying, it's not hamas that cut off palestinians' food supplies, water supplies, electricity supplies. so really, y'all miss me with that bullshit. and go away from the palestine tag. y'all are just there to invalidate the palestinians' suffering, if you cannot even name their oppressor, the killer of their children, women and men. and today, most of all, keep your genocide-apoligist bullshit to yourself.
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hextechmaturgy · 1 year
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i'm sorry but you and the person in your replies are stupid if you think "we all agree israel should be kicked from the show ❤️" is a good excuse to watch and fund by viewing a TV show that OPENLY supports israel and zionism, going as far as even having a ZIONIST SONG win one of the contests. what you're basically saying is, "Yeah, we all agree, amazon should treat its workers better ❤️" then ordering next day delivery. european or not, you're dismissing the struggles and suffering of palestinians and funding a show that openly supports israel and zionism. saying, "i disagree with israel and want them off the show," literally isn't enough. but honestly, this is the most european attitude to have towards the situation, so i honestly don't know why i'm surprised. also - some contestants holding a flag for palestine doesn't negate the support the show itself gives to israel. you need to remember that the people suffering in palestine are real and more important than a competition show for, historically, the most racist countries on earth with shit music on it. the fact that you stating "indeed!" and the user in your replies stating you're both aware of the situation is worse than being ignorant and unaware. i will block you just because you are clearly going to die on this hill because what does it matter to you, a white european person, if brown people die so long as you get to watch your silly little music show, which you know, is still openly supporting israel by not excluding them from the competition despite russia's removal. i suppose the white victims of russia are easier to empathise with than the brown lives lost in palestine. i'm embarrassed that i ever bought any of your art.
hello again :) first of all, i appreciate that you're passionate about this topic, it's a good cause to champion and i'm sure there are a lot of ignorant ESC fans that could use the reminders, lord knows you can't escape the zionists on twitter. alas, you don't know me personally, and i don't know you at all, so our back and forth here on tumblr dot com asks seems a bit pointless, especially if you're blocking me anyway? hence my brevity before, but maybe that came across as me generally not giving a damn about anything, and if so, i am sorry
eurovision's 'apolitical' stance (as if anything can be apolitical) is and always has been bullshit, whether it's about how hip europe pretends to be regarding queer issues, misogyny, and other major conflicts like the ones you brought up, such as the war with russia and, of course, israel and palestine. this really isn't a well kept secret, and neither is the response this incites in activists everywhere. there have been protests, petitions, boycotts, there's a heated discussion about eurovision every time we have eurovision, and rightly so, i fully encourage them. the sad truth in my eyes is that people people can only do so much to set things right. EBU is in this to make money and they're fucking great at it. nobody fixed russia by booing and banning them from the show, it was just more profitable to throw them out than keeping them in because 'communism bad', which is a trend among western countries
i've watched eurovision almost every year since i was a little kid, and it's pretty obvious that my stance on this whole thing is privileged. war has never been loud outside my door, i have a reliable supply of food and water every day, a sturdy roof over my head. i can spare myself some respite, and music is a big part of what constitutes my peace, always has been. i'm an enthusiast of foreign arts, of songs and languages that are difficult to get exposed to with how american-centric the music charts are nowadays
and so, the way i see it - and i understand if this is a line you're not comfortable drawing - the artists performing at eurovision aren't the EBU. i watch it for them. many of them who are just young singers looking for their big break, many others who are older and confident using their platform to say the uncomfortable things the organizers want to keep on the low. they're all gathered in one spot to represent a different culture, many singing in different languages, sharing traditional garb and dance. ethnic and LGBT minorities take to a huge stage that connects them to every point of the world, and i'm sorry if this all sounds quite silly in the grand scheme of things, but this is the one thing the show can do right in it's current state. europe is diverse, and sometimes it looks like even europe doesn't know that
i'm sad to see you go, but i respect that you've drawn this line, and i'm thankful to hear you've supported my art in the past. keep fighting the good fight, and may the world be a little less shitty sooner rather than later
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ottwaat · 7 years
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Israelis: So fucked up that zionists also contributed to our expulsion and exhile from arab countries and pressure us to not express how our jewish identity has evolved.
Diaspora communities of sephardi, mizrahi, and ashkenazi backgrounds: Our temples, folks, homes, and our identities are attacked because we proudly show that we are ethnically, culturally, and religiously jewish and that we have strongly preserved that connection to the levant for millenia.
Also israelis: LMAO!!!!! You're white ok ashkenazim in this country show disdain to non-european jews so clearly they represent you all and my experience with their anti-arab sentiment negates what you say! By the way, saying that you have origins from the levant is white supremacist because it's what the nazis and white nationalists said about you.
Diaspora communities: White supremacists and anti-semites are defaming us by saying we lie about our history and culture and are just doing it to control the government and to steal land! This is blood libel and israel with its crimes against palestinians do NOT represent who we are! We are jews, we are proud of how we've endured and anyone who denies our backgrounds must pay!
Also israelis: Wow maybe think less about yourself for once and consider other people who are suffering? Smh ashkenazi have all the privileges :/
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