No because you're so right and you should say it. Billy was not a bully, and if that's what he was trying to be then he was doing a shit job at it because Billy's bullying tactics in season 2 are lame as fuck. Calling a guy pretty boy? Patting him on the back and telling him to plan his feet? What the fuck, how is that bullying?
ONG IM TIRED OF THIS NARRATIVE.
Billy gets called a slur, and has flirted with Steve... how is that homophobic?
I'm convinced viewers have brains the size of fucking salt. Everything he does has a reason behind it. He genuinely doesn't seem to care much about really being "the king". Imo he's a TEENAGE BOY. He's acting out for attention, and he can get away with shit that Neil would never let slide.
Public high schools are filled with Billy Hargroves. Middle schools, too.
The way the Duffers wrote him, made the whole racist narrative up for interpretation. Like... wtf? THESE ARE YOUR CHARACTERS.
What people choose not to understand (you know what they're just stupid) is that Billy gets punished for whatever Max does. Imo Billy is justified in being angry. The abuse escalates because Max causes trouble for him. With Neil around they could never be real siblings.
The moment the duffers brought in serious social issues like racism and abuse, they were never going to expand on it. For them it is only an aesthetic. This is a Sci fic show that is just a bunch of 80s references sewn together- and shittily I might add.
Billy was never as bad as they wanted him to be- and that was because of Dacre, for sure.
I love how people are realizing the duffers are shitty writers NOW. But when it's to do with Billy, it's "the characters fault", not the writers?
TEENAGE BOYS ARE ASSHOLES. THAT IS A FACT.
But characters like Steve are treated like fucking angels? Even if Billy was racist, he was still a kid. People change. Apply the whole "Steve became less of a homophobic dick" to Billy. Or just... do one better... and shut the fuck up 😊I
THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. WHICH IS NOT DEATH. IT REQUIRES TIME. IN SEASON 2 STEVE GOT A REDEMPTION ARC OR WHATEVER- SEASON 2- 💀💀💀💀🤌🤌🤌🤌
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This might be a risky hot take but
Some of you "Gregory Defenders" are starting to annoy the absolute hell out of me
And this isn't about the "whether Gregory is innocent or guilty" side of the argument you're on, but about how obnoxious and unhinged some of y'all are about it regardless of the "side" you're on.
Not everyone in the fandom is going to like Gregory, nor will everyone see him as innocent. Some may even say he's a cold and manipulative backstabber, or that he's only popular because of "male protag privilege". And you know what, that's actually all okay and valid. And you know why?
Because Gregory is not real.
"He's only like 12!!!!" he's not real.
"He's just a child!!!" he's not real.
"He's not guilty he was brainwashed!!" he's not real.
"He's only trying to protect himself he doesn't deserve hate!!!" Let people dislike/hate him if they want, it won't affect Gregory at all because he's not real.
It's not like people are bullying a real child. He's a fictional character, in case y'all ever forgot that detail.
Actually no, I am SURE y'all forgot that detail, with how you treat people who dislike him as if it was an actual moral issue and paint them as evil for not sharing your image of your perfect cinnamon roll gremlin boy.
"How DARE you say Gregory's not innocent? How can you HATE him he's just a kid!!! It's not his fault STOP punishing him!!! How evil do you have to be to blame a literal child!!!? You're disgusting!!!" HE'S NOT FUCKING REAL.
Where in the fucking hell is it okay to label a person as evil or bully them for like, liking Cassie (another fictional character in case you also forgot) over Gregory??
Yes this also goes to y'all who approach people unprompted to tell them like a lawyer why Gregory is not to blame, especially with how condescending and obnoxious you are about it, pretty much reeking the vibe of "I'm telling you how wrong you are for blaming Gregory because you're clearly stupid for not believing otherwise, here's why I'm right and why my vision of this character is the correct one."
I'm sick of "Gregory defense lawyers" coming to my inbox after my ramblings about Cassie blaming Gregory for the elevator drop all condenscendingly like "Ummm actually you can't do that because Gregory is innocent it was all the Mimic in case you missed the details blah blah-" did I fucking ask???
(Unless people seem confused or are new to the fandom and they ask, then you may be entitled to tell them... but I still suggest being unbiased and focusing on canon aspects only rather than your personal opinion about it.)
Don't even get me started on y'all's flat out hostility towards people who don't like Gregory
"If you think Gregory did anything wrong ever I'LL FUCKING FIGHT YOU" is this really all that necessary to protect a kid that doesn't even exist??? Is it worth ending friendships or snuffing out potential new friendships with other real people over??? Worth bullying and witch-hunting other real people whose only apparent crime was loving the same franchise as you? How can you be proud of that?
(Unless you mean you will fight people in that memey or shitpost way then idc keep being a silly little guy actually)
"But I adore Gregory, and he's my favorite character!! It makes me really upset when people hate him/make art/write about him being guilty or blamed, or say Cassie is better! I don't agree with it!!" ... then why are you making yourself upset by checking out content about Gregory that you don't like? Like... dude.
People are going to create stuff about Gregory (or any other fictional character really,) that won't always align with you. And they're entitled to do it, no matter how wrong you think they are! Instead of policing what other people create about your blorbo, just look away and seek content about them that you actually like. If a particular creator's vision on Gregory is too much of a deal-breaker for you, just block and blacklist and move on. Or create the content you want yourself instead of badgering other people.
Also keep in mind that Gregory being antagonized in a fic/art/etc doesn't always translate to the authors hating him, chances are they're just writting it from other characters' perspectives who may have whatever beef with him in the given setting, so don't go jumping to conclusions either. And even if the antagonism does come from the author's personal bias, that still gives you no right to harrass them anyways.
I will continue liking Cassie over Gregory and I do think she's better and I will continue rambling about Cassie hating Gregory for believing he betrayed her even if it was the Mimic, because it is an interesting scenario, and I personally think the whole GGY thing was dumb and unnecessary (he could still have been an interesting character as just an unlucky homeless boy without any sinister plot-twist.) That's it; There's no fucking need to make it about morality, ffs. If you don't like that, ignore it, or unfollow me if it's that much of a deal-breaker for you.
All y'all are doing is giving reasonable Gregory fans a bad name, and actually making people dislike him further by oversaturating him and forcing him into a source of stress and disdain rather than enjoyment for them, where people start actually getting sick of seeing him around (and I feel that myself already.)
Let people dislike Gregory for whatever reason.
By the way...
You "Gregory Haters" are annoying me as well
As entitled as you are to your opinion about this annoying manipulative liar of a brat, there are people who share a different sentiment about him. Let them.
You don't have to reblog or comment on someone's post how much they adore Gregory to tell why you hate him, or go to the spaces of Gregory fans to spew why you hate so much this little guy they like. That's just fucking mean and rude. Make your own post, or go to the spaces that share your opinion.
Quit making people feel bad for liking a character you dislike. If you don't like Gregory, why are you even bothering to check out content about him, then? Check out content about characters you LIKE. I bet that'd make you much happier than spending your time regurgitating your hate over someone's creation about a character they like but you don't and unsurprisingly start an argument about it. Look for things you like, block and blacklist stuff and people about your hated character if you gotta but leave them alone
Let people like Gregory for whatever reason, too.
Let people see Gregory however way they see fit.
Because this bears repeating: He's not real. He's a fictional character. He's a tool. Let people use him however way they see fit to drive a story or scenario; that's his purpose, as a fictional character.
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I never thought I'd come on here and DEFEND GOJO SATORU but some of the things that HIS FANS are saying about him are straight up insulting my intelligence.
I've seen everything from he's a ruined character because: he's a pussy, he lost, he respected Sukuna, he doesn't care about his students, he didn't try hard enough, he was bad at fighting, etc and I can't believe what I'm seeing.
The blatant mischaracterization is straight up making me more sad for Gojo than his death does. He literally gave his all, tried everything new and old he could to succeed, honorably died trying to protect his students AND had the dignity and humbleness to acknowledge his opponent's strength and people will say this is somehow character assassination.
I get being upset but that is no excuse to be saying nonsense like this. The only ones who did Gojo dirty are his fans who are smearing his name, character and reputation, and not Gege because he killed him
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the song Cien Años by Pedro Infante is 100000% shuggy coded. look at the lyrics and tell me that it isn't them!!
i see shanks singing his heart out to this song while looking through pictures of buggy. meanwhile, buggy is in a very happy relationship and has healed and moved on; now it's shanks that is left in the past. clinging to old memories.
lyrics under the cut to further prove my point:
Pasaste a mi lado con gran indiferencia / You passed by my side with heartless indifference
Tus ojos ni siquiera voltearon hacia mí /Your eyes didn't even turn to me
Te vi sin que me vieras / I saw you but you didn't see me
Te hablé sin que me oyeras / I spoke to you but you didn't hear me
Y toda mi amargura se ahogó dentro de mí / And all my bitterness drowned inside of me
then we get to the chorus and it's:
Me duele hasta la vida saber que me olvidaste / It hurts me to life to know that you forgot me
Pensar que ni desprecio merezca yo de ti / To think that I don't even deserve contempt from you
Y sin embargo, sigues unida a mi existencia / And yet, you're still attached to my existence
Y si vivo cien años, cien años pienso en ti / And if I live for a hundred years, then for a hundred years I'll think of you
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HI I FORGOR TO POST MY OC GUY CASSEY!!!!!
A little description about them... if you're interested <3
This is Cassey Cogsworth (They/It only)! Cassey was once human, but after falling terribly ill their [redacted] made a robot body for it to keep them alive until a cure could be found. However after [redacted] fell ill as well, Cassey put them into a sort of cryogenic chamber to preserve their body while it tried to find a cure.
Cassey was inspired by this song -> "Brass Goggles" by Steam Powered Giraffe
I've thought about making a story for Cassey, but I kinda don't have anything terribly concrete rn. Just some ideas bouncing around in my big ol noggin. Anyway, hope you guys like them :]
Edit: note that Cassey is supposed to look more human than robot. It's for plot reasons
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