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silverflameataraxia · 2 years
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When Elain's a bitch it's because she's gaining a backbone, or character development, or preparing her for her own book.
But when Nesta's a bitch it's because she's an abuser who deserves to die and all of her stans are abuser apologists who stan her to justify all our shitty behavior.
Make it make sense.
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wingedblooms · 3 months
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Sister-Glass Caverns
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Warning: This is a Maasverse post, and as such, there are spoilers for all Maas series, including information connected to the HOFAS teaser.
The caves in the hofas teaser made me think about something I noticed in Elain’s witch series. In acosf, the priestesses worship in a cavern that is smooth as glass.
“…And the cave we have the service in is beautiful, too. It was carved by the underground river that flows beneath the mountain, so the walls are smooth as glass. And it’s acoustically perfect—the shape and size of the space amplifies and clarifies each voice within.” (acosf)
In the sense chanted, I talked about how this might be Prythian’s version of witch glass, which as we learned from Manon and Maeve in the tog series, has various uses:
“You can see the future, past, present. You can speak between mirrors, if someone possesses the sister-glass. And then there are the rare silvers—whose forging demands something vital from the maker.” Manon’s voice dropped low. Dorian wondered if even among the Blackbeaks, these tales had only been whispered at their campfires. “Other mirrors amplify and hold blasts of raw power, to be unleashed if the mirror is aimed at something.” (Manon, eos)
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“It’s possible—to show a different world?” Dorian asked Maeve when they were again in their tower room.
Maeve slid into a chair, her face distant. “Using mirrors, yes.”
Dorian lifted a brow. “You have seen yourself the power of witch mirrors. What it did to Aelin Galathynius and Manon Blackbeak. Who do you think taught the witches such power? Not the Fae.” A small laugh. “And how do you think I have been able to see so far, hear the voices of my eyes, all the way from Doranelle? There are mirrors to spy, to travel, to kill. Even now, Erawan wields them to his advantage with the Ironteeth.” With the witch towers. (Maeve, koa)
Witch mirrors can be used to store knowledge (like the memory Aelin and Manon entered), amplify power, travel, and spy (listen and watch). It is interesting that the cave under the mountain where the library rests is described in terms of glass. Gwyn even indicates that it amplifies their voices, so if those ancient songs Clotho found were spells, it’s possible the glass amplified their power. And that spell helped Nesta enter a trance-like state and connect with the Harp.
So Nesta drifted down and down, the harp and the voices pulsing and guiding, until she stopped before a rock. She laid a hand on it to find it was only an illusion, and she passed through it, down another long hall, beneath the mountain itself, and then she stood in a cavern, almost the twin to the one the priestesses sang in, as if they were linked in song and dreaming. (acosf)
The spell led Nesta beneath the sister mountain called the Prison, to a near-twin cavern where the Harp is located. These sister caverns—or sister-glass, if you will—are linked in song and dreaming.
We learned from Amren that there is an extensive underground cave system in Prythian, meaning that there might be other sister-glass caves.
“Oorid was once a sacred place,” Amren said. […] They say the water there flows to Under the Mountain, and the creatures who live in the bog have long used its underground waterways to travel through the Middle, even into the mountains of the surrounding courts.” (Amren, acosf)
@offtorivendell, @silverlinedeyes and I theorized that the sister mountains (the Middle, Ramiel, and Prison) could all have portals to other worlds buried beneath. What if each sister mountain has a cavern with sister-glass, and these caves are not only linked to each other, but—as Maeve suggests is possible—to other worlds as well? Did ancient beings like the Daglan or death-gods (who are similar to those who taught the witches how wield the glass) create these sister caverns? Is that what Bryce, Azriel, and Nesta came across—or are searching for—in the teaser? And if ancient creatures like kelpie still use the waterways in Oorid, which is connected to the underground waterways and cave system that spans the Middle and leads to other courts, then what other ancient nightmares are waiting for them beneath?
Annnnnd if they are exploring the cave system, and it leads to Ramiel rather than the Prison, I wonder if they’ll see Balthazar mysteriously appear again. 🤭 (C’mon, you knew that was coming!)
Annnnnnnnnnnnnd if these sister glass caverns operate like witch mirrors, would that mean someone could use it to communicate with or spy on others from other worlds? Even travel from Prythian to Midgard? Erilea? I swear, if someone (please, I’m begging for it to be Elain in the next acotar book) steps out of a sister cavern and into a Blueblood ritual, my mind will explode.
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merymoonbeam · 2 months
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Prison-Wild Hunt
CC3 spoilers. You have been warned. 🫡
In cc3 bryce said this:
“I think it’s what the Prison—the island in the Fae’s home world—once was. When Theia ruled it, I mean. Before Silene fucked it all up. Maybe they’re linked in some way through being thin places and spilled over to each other a bit. Maybe back in that other world … maybe I woke up the land around the Prison, too.”
Maybe I woke up the land around the Prison too
And we know that Silene captured Daglan's pet in prison. 👀
One after another, I hunted monsters—the remaining pets of the Daglan—until many of the lowest rooms were filled with them. Until my once-beautiful home became a prison. Until even the land was so disgusted by the evil I’d gathered here that the islands shriveled and the earth became barren. The winged horses who hadn’t gone with my mother to Midgard, who had once flown in the skies, playing in the surf … they were nearly gone. Not a single living soul remained, except for the monstrosities in the mountain.
And from acosf we know that Lanthys was one of them and he was in...Wild Hunt.
“Oh, I do not think so,” Lanthys seethed. “I rode in the Wild Hunt before you were even a scrap of existence, witch from Oorid. I summoned the hounds and the world cowered at their baying. I galloped at the head of the Hunt, and Fae and beast bowed before us.”
So if bryce did indeed woke up the land around prison that means it could be all crumbled like it was in avallen. Are the inmates going to be free? Are the wild hunt going to be in acotar5? Are we getting a full on wild hunt plot?
I also have a big wild hunt post.
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jealousveronya · 1 year
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Nesta Archeron, Witch, Lady Death, Lady Nesta, Witch from Oorid, Queen of Queens
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daisybrekker · 2 years
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Top 10 loves of Cassian's life:
Feyre & Elain's older sister
Lady Death
Witch from Oorid
Feyre, Rhysand and Nyx's saviour
Lucien's original endgame
Cauldron power thief
Queen of Queens
Ataraxia's creator
Tallest Archeron sister
And Nesta Archeron
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izabela92l · 3 months
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Witches from the Bog of Oorid
''Witches are famous for herbal medicine and the preparation of poisons. There is also some truth in the fact that they have their own archaic tools they used to tap into more power than the Cauldron gave them. It always leaves a mark. Magic seeks balance. It took all the heat from their bodies, so they supplied it in a different way, less refined, more animalistic, by killing and drinking still warm blood.''
Elain grimaced in disgust and shuddered at the thought. She would never want to reach for more than she could handle, certainly not to cause harm. She valued peace and avoided violence.
''Were you involved with the other High Lords in catching and banning the witches to the Bog of Oorid?'' Eris asked with interest, turning the cup in his hand.
Beron nodded.
''The most greedy and doing wicked, monstrous things. And all those who hunted the inhabitants of our villages and towns.''
''Do they still live there?'' Archeron asked, a bit terrified at the prospect. She imagined a house full of bloodthirsty creatures just waiting for someone unaware to knock on their door.
''Now it is an abandoned, cursed and forgotten place by the Cauldron, where no one goes. There is a kind of darkness and death hanging in the air... not a single bird sings, and the abandoned cottage is surrounded by rosebuds and vines as if they were sleeping.''
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Heyy girly i hope your doing well😊. Just wanted to pop in and say hi also which court do you think you wouldn’t fit/ would live in🤔 I would love your answer miss you!! Sending love ❤️
Hi dear 💙 I miss you, too! It's so nice to hear from you.
That's a hard one! I am not a Day or Summer or Winter girl, and that's an assumption based on nothing but VIBES. Winter is too cold and the clothing would be too restrictive, Summer is too hot and I would resemble a lobster 99% of the time.
But what does fit my vibe? Court wise, I'm probably a basic Autumn bitch or a Night Court girl, but as a random side character...I'm feeling like it's probably swamp witch in the Bog of Oorid or apothecary/poison maker (poisoneer? poisoner?) in the Hewn City. I could not be so lucky as to wind up an artist in Velaris or a baker in a pretty little Spring village.
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pinklayla123 · 26 days
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okay idk if you answer asks but i saw your post about the “coincidences” that like maybe aren’t and i’ve already i sent part of this to another account but idk if they’re active anymore and booktok and the ig community are too much for me because i can’t hide behind anon but i was wondering the same thing, i don’t read a lot of the theories out there because they seem too far fetched to me but i was thinking isn’t it weird that after the Archeron mom died they lost everything. If she had a child (Nesta) with a Fae or a male Witch she would’ve been conceived during Amarantha’s rule and could’ve (given Rhys keeping the Inner Circle on his payroll) gotten some sort of child support for keeping the kid safe and maybe a blessing from the person she conceived Nesta with leading to the birth of Elain and Feyre therefore two blessed mortals by either a Witch of Fae of some power and maybe that was why Papa Archeron rode in one the ship named after Nesta who essentially (if this is true) by being born gave that man his wealth and he felt like he owed the Fae something aka his life. Lanthys also didn’t say Nesta wasn’t a Witch but that she didn’t smell like Oorid and the overlap between Throne of Glass Witches and Nesta is a lot more than i can cross examine like Blue Annis being described as an Iron-Teeth Witch meaning it’s possible Crochan Witches exist in Prythian as well.. like Witches being able to sense storms and hear the roaring of the wind in their ears and whenever Nesta is pissed the weather reacts… the Dead Trove could be similar to the Witch Mirrors and other objects Witches could supposedly make and Crochan witches can have magic similar to Fae, like the entire book Silver Flames was spent listening to everyone say how not mortal Nesta has been her entire life and she even said she was her mothers creature and if this is the case it sounds like Azriel refusing his Illyrian side and as we know her and him are close. What if she felt something recoil in her if she she had gotten near the wall looking for Feyre like she knew if she went out there she wouldn’t come back so she sent others out there because imagine how different the books would’ve been if Amarantha got a hold of Nesta... I’m rambling so i’ll stop because this is probably unhinged but like Nesta wasn’t allowed to give up all of her Magic to save Feyre and maybe because that’s what she was born with like that amount of Magic and her mother made her suppress it and similar to Feyre wanting her to train her mother may have made her take dance to expel her magic in some way also if her mother had a child with a Fae- Ash Wood stops Fae healing and Rowan cut Aelin’s ears into points to make her shift, maybe to save her child Mama Archeron cut her daughters ear points off? and the Cauldron just regenerated her, maybe Elain couldn’t be as connected to the Cauldrn as Nesta and she knew that deep down and her instinct was to keep Elain away from it like with Feyre and the drawers because like Feyre- Elain was made but maybe Nesta was just regenerated or healed back to who she originally was.
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Okay, so I think that all three sisters are biologically mama and papa Archeron's. It's mentioned that despite the fact that mama Archeron wasn't even a parent, she did love her husband, and something similar was said for him as well, so I don't think she had an affair with someone.
From what I remember, papa Archeron's money was accumulated by generations of his ancestors who were merchants, and he was on the brink of losing it because of a series of bad decisions. I think the reason why it all came crashing down after mama Archeron's death is because he wasn't thinking straight and made a dumb decision to risk everything out of desperation.
However, you're right, it's very interesting how SJM keeps bringing up the "Nesta was never truly mortal" thing. I read that as her having a strong intellect and personality in a "she was destined for more than balls and parties and a rich husband" kind of way, like when Rhys calls her an Illyrian, but it could also allude to some non-human ancestry in the bloodline, possibly on mama Archeron's side as Nesta was most like her so maybe those genes are strongest in Nesta. (Adding to this, it's also very interesting that the bargain magic chose the Starborn symbol for Nesta, how does that connect to everything?)
I think that all the other weird stuff happening with her, like Lanthys saying she smells weird, the environment being affected by Nesta's emotions, many people calling her a witch, and her intense connection to the Cauldron boils down (pun intended) to the fact that she took a huge chunk of the Cauldron's power in her fury. Like, this piece was substantial enough that the king of Hybern was allocating resources to getting Nesta back so the Cauldron would be back at 100% power, so she probably took a lot more power than was given to Elain, making her connection to the cauldron much stronger.
If Nesta was truly something other than human as a child, I think her mother would have given her more attention beyond dancing lessons and teaching her manners. Her mother is described as a vain social-ladder climber, and she would have used Nesta's ancestry to her advantage somehow if this were the case. If Nesta had been born with the power she has at the end of acosf, there would have been some mention of "this power was familiar to her, it had been hidden in chest her entire life, waiting to be freed" or something. I think the power Nesta is left with at the end of acosf is either from mercy or kindness on the Mother's part or she has larger plans for Nesta which require her to keep some of what she stole from the Cauldron.
This got really long, but in summary, I think that the Archeron sisters were originally human with maybe a dash of some magic in the bloodline. I think more than that though, it is a case of fate weaving its threads across centuries to get all these people together (the Archeron sisters and the Bat Boys) and giving them the powers needed to help right an ancient wrong (the Daglan and the corruption of the Cauldron).
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nessiandaily · 3 years
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Kingslayer • Queen of Queens • Princess of Decay • Lady Death • Goddess of Death • Cauldron thief • A Witch from Oorid's dark heart • A queen without a throne • valkyrie
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abruisedmuse · 2 years
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I have a lot of questions about the witches in ACOTAR
“What is the difference between a faerie and a witch?” “Witches amass power beyond their natural reserve,” Mor answered with sudden seriousness. “They use spells and archaic tools to harness more power to them than the Cauldron allotted—and use it for whatever they desire.” (ACOWAR, Pg486)
What’s your interpretation of the above quote? Do you think ACOTAR witches are their own species of people who already have unique witchy powers but then use “spells and archaic tools” to gain even more power than what they have? Or could anyone, any faerie, be labeled as a witch if they used those things to try to obtain more power than what they already have?
And why are people so scared of witches? I interpreted “whatever they desire” to mean for bad or good. But with Mor’s “sudden seriousness” and the flinching of the Illyrian warlords (ACOWAR, Pg485) it seems like they think witches are wrong and scary. Do you think witches are inherently evil or do you think they’re being wrongfully prejudiced against? Have we not seen any witches because they’re scared to come out into the open? Are they hiding in plain sight? Are they just rare? Why do you think they were introduced in ACOWAR (and been mentioned multiple times due to the Illyrians and Nesta) but we haven’t yet seen one?
First off sorry I haven't answered yet. I was parading all day and a Lil drunk. Its Mardi Gras weekend 🥳 This ask requires me to actually think. Very glad you finished hosab because....
HOSAB SPOILERS
This is all a shot in the dark mind you because we know literally nothing. Witches are rarely brought up in Acotar. I have a SS below of acosf, the context you provided and then Nesta joking she's a witch. Thats all the information we have. I hope we learn more because TOG and CC both have witches and they are pretty significant to the story. I'm hoping the random mentions lead to somewhere. SJM usually doesn't drop random things about other races or beings like that unless there's a reason.
So far we've only seen variations of faeries: faes, Ilyrians, Seraphims, half-faes, Urisk, Wraiths. Then various beings like The Weaver, Bryaxis, etc. No Witches. Based on this that Cassian says in acosf.
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I think there were two different types of witches. Human witches who could be healers like Myriam. Now these witches might have eventually made a permanent move to Prythian because Mortals didnt take kindly to them. And once in Prythian it's possible that their magic became more powerful. Thus causing some of the witches to experiment with more spells and using tools to enhance their powers.
However with what Cassian says kinda reminds me of the Ironteeth just more corrupt. I mean there's different types of fae why can't there be different types of witches. TOG had what three? Four covens?
"Whatever they desire" feels morally Grey to me. It doesn't matter if it was for good, bad, or personal gain. They stopped at nothing to achieve their wants. Think of Nesta. I know she jokes about being a witch. Technically speaking she stole power from the Cauldron that was not hers. She took more power from the Cauldron then what she was suppose to be given and look what happened to her. That power was destroying her.
As far as where the witches are now....
Back to Cassian and Nesta talking in acosf. The page before that excerpt she asks about Kelpies and he tells her but also says it was hundreds of years before his birth. Which makes me thinks that could be for the witches too. No one currently knows much about the witches but they've heard mortifying tales. This is why I think the Witches are in one of the following places:
- Whatever witches remain are in the Bog of Oorid or the Middle. I would say the prison. I'd think Cassian would know that. (If this is case. The human witches are in hiding.)
- Witches are exiled to an island.
Now my recent and favorite theory is the witches are on Midgard. As I've said there's virtually no mention of witches in acotar. Even when they talk of the war there's nothing about witches. If Witches were so horrific and were in the war wouldnt the IC remember? I think they left to Midgard. At least most of them. Ever since then it's just been terrifying tales recounted by faes or in texts.
To me, both of these are easily plausible and if Sjm wanted to bring up Witches in acotar either would make sense.
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yazthebookish · 3 years
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When I read about the swamp of oorid I immediately thought of the island of avalon from the stories of king Arthur. Avalon is turned off after King Arthur's death, we see in acosf that the story of King Arthur and former High King Fionn are very similar.... What if the swamp/middle in ancient Prythian times was where Fionn and his wife reigned ??? Or maybe it was his wife's court, we know she ruled her own court, in the legends of King Arthur his wife was called guinevere, but that name in Welsh is gwenhwyfar which means "white witch" and if in lashing she was the first witch / sorceress or perhaps the mother's counterpart, the dark mother that the monsters of berth believe in and serve?? That's why the magic of the middle is different and it's a place full of monsters. I would like sjm to explain more about the mother's counterpart, she was only mentioned once in the five books and I'm really curious about her!!! I think sjm doesn't even remember the mention of it anymore 😂😂
You know what... you're on to something!
I did not think of where Fionn ruled from and it makes sense that he might be ruling from the middle since there were no Courts.
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Under The Mountain was already carved way before Amarantha took over. It was like an underground palace.
If Oorid was a place where heroes and warriors were laid to their final rest. There were signs roses bloomed there once. Now, it's the place where wild magic dwells and filled with so much evil only the worst faeries are drawn to it.
I can't help but wonder if it turned to such a dark place because it's protecting someone or something. It's not a coincidence Gwydion disappeared around the same time as the fourth trove.
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In her vision, Nesta says the fourth object was placed on an altar and she did not make out much from it other than ancient bone.
It's tricky to speculate all of this but it's also interesting that Koschei's name literally means Bone.
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silverflameataraxia · 2 years
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nEsTa SpEnT tHe Ic'S mOnEy On AlCoHoL aNd GaMbLiNg
Nesta was only helping the Night Court economy by supporting local businesses that Feysand deemed to be beneath them.
Calm down.
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arinbelle · 3 years
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When they go to the Bog of Oorid, Cassian talks about some other mythical creatures, like lightsingers and witches. And Cassian says like the immortal Fae witches are not like human witches and they’d eat you or something (idr the exact quote.)
This implies 2 things. Human witches exist and are real, and they aren’t dangerous or evil like Fae witches supposedly are. Idc at this point how off my theory is and how every single one of them got dispelled with ACOSF, Nesta is a witch ( “a witch from Oorid’s dark heart” she told Lanthys) and I think her mom was a human witch.
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merymoonbeam · 7 months
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The Morrigan Part II.
This is a continuation of my post The Morrigan. In that post I talked about how Mor could be the High Queen. In this post we are gonna talk about her connection to Wild Hunt.
I went to look a the Morrigan's wiki page and found this.
It has also been suggested that she was closely linked to the fianna, and that these groups may have been in some way dedicated to her. These were "bands of youthful warrior-hunters, living on the borders of civilized society and indulging in lawless activities for a time before inheriting property and taking their places as members of settled, landed communities." If true, her worship may have resembled that of Perchta groups in Germanic areas.
we are gonna talk about two things in here -- Fianna and Perchta.
Fianna:
while I was writing my Wild Hunt post I found out that Fionn and Fianna are the wild hunt in Ireland.
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and We have a Fionn in Acotar.
Rhys’s eyes flicked to Ataraxia, then to Cassian. “Some strains of the mythology claim that one of the Fae heroes who rose up to overthrow them was Fionn, who was given the great sword Gwydion by the High Priestess Oleanna, who had dipped it into the Cauldron itself. Fionn and Gwydion overthrew the Daglan. A millennium of peace followed, and the lands were divided into rough territories that were the precursors to the courts—but at the end of those thousand years, they were at each other’s throats, on the brink of war.” His face tightened. “Fionn unified them and set himself above them as High King. The first and only High King this land has ever had.”
So the Morrigan is linked to Fianna which is the wild hunt and we have a Fionn in acotar who has the same name of the leader of wild hunt.
now onto...
Perchta:
Perchta or Berchta (English: Bertha), also commonly known as Percht and other variations, was once known as a goddess in Alpine paganism in the Upper German and Austrian regions of the Alps. Her name may mean "the bright one" (Old High German: beraht, bereht, from Proto-Germanic *berhtaz) and is probably related to the name Berchtentag, meaning the feast of the Epiphany. Eugen Mogk provides an alternative etymology, attributing the origin of the name Perchta to the Old High German verb pergan, meaning "hidden" or "covered". Perchta is often identified as stemming from the same Germanic goddess as Holda and other female figures of Germanic folklore (see Frija-Frigg). According to Jacob Grimm and Lotte Motz, Perchta is Holda's southern cousin or equivalent, as they both share the role of "guardian of the beasts" and appear during the Twelve Days of Christmas, when they oversee spinning.
so she is connected to Holda(keep the red highlighted Frija/Frigg part in mind we are gonna talk about that) and with that they both share the role of "guardian of the beasts"
We have beasts in acotar, in Wild Hunt actually.
“Oh, I do not think so,” Lanthys seethed. “I rode in the Wild Hunt before you were even a scrap of existence, witch from Oorid. I summoned the hounds and the world cowered at their baying. I galloped at the head of the Hunt, and Fae and beast bowed before us.”
“We shall rebuild to what we were before the golden legions of the Fae cast off their chains and overthrew us. We shall resurrect the Wild Hunt and ride rampant through the night. We shall build palaces of ice and flame, palaces of darkness and starlight. Magic shall flow untethered again.” Nesta could see the portrait Lanthys wove into the air around them. She saw herself on a black throne, a matching crown in her unbound hair. Enormous onyx beasts—scaled, like those she’d seen on the Hewn City’s pillars—lay at the foot of the dais. Ataraxia leaned against her throne, and on her other side … Lanthys sat there, his hand laced through hers. Their kingdom was endless; their palace built of pure magic that lived and thrived around them. The Harp sat behind them on an altar, the Mask, too, but the golden Crown wasn’t there.
“The Daglan delighted in terrorizing the Fae and humans under their control. The Wild Hunt was a way to keep all of us in line. They’d gather a host of their fiercest, most merciless warriors and grant them free rein to kill as they pleased. The Daglan possessed mighty, monstrous beasts—hounds, they called them, though they didn’t look like the hounds we know—that they used to run prey to ground before they tortured and killed them. It’s a terrible history, and much of it might be elaborated myths.” “The hounds looked like the beasts in the Hewn City,” Nesta said quietly.
so Hounds/beasts= The Wild Hunt and through Pertcha The Morrigan is connected to the "guardian of the beasts"
moving on...
This next part is interesting.
In some descriptions, Perchta has two forms; she may appear either as beautiful and white as snow like her name, or as elderly and haggard. In many old descriptions, Perchta had one large foot, sometimes called a goose foot or swan foot. Grimm thought the strange foot symbolized her being a higher being who could shapeshift to animal form. He noticed that Bertha with a strange foot exists in many languages (Middle German "Berhte mit dem fuoze", French "Berthe au grand pied", Latin "Berhta cum magno pede", Italian " Berta dai gran piè", title of a medieval epic poem of Italian area): "It is apparently a swan maiden's foot, which as a mark of her higher nature she cannot lay aside...and at the same time the spinning-woman's splayfoot that worked the treadle".In the Tyrol she appears as little old woman with a very wrinkled face, bright lively eyes, and a long hooked nose; her hair is disheveled, her garments tattered and torn.
I talked about Swan maiden in my Seidr post.
In myths Frejya/Frigg(remember the red highlighted part) has seidr magic and Freyja also has:
Freyja is the owner of the necklace Brísingamen, rides a chariot pulled by two cats, is accompanied by the boar Hildisvíni, and possesses a cloak of falcon feathers.
And swan maidens:
The swan maiden is a mythical creature who shapeshifts from human form to swan form. The key to the transformation is usually a swan skin, or a garment with swan feathers attached. In folktales of this type, the male character spies the maiden, typically by some body of water (usually bathing), then snatches away the feather garment (or some other article of clothing), which prevents her from flying away (or swimming away, or renders her helpless in some other manner), forcing her to become his wife.
So they have a "swan skin" with swan feathers which helps them shapeshift.
The question is...is Mor going to turn into a bird like the girls in Koschei's lake? Is she connected to Vassa? And more interesting thing is that in myths The Morrigan can shapeshift--into a crow.
The Morrígan is described as the envious wife of The Dagda and a shape-shifting goddess, while Badb and Nemain are said to be the wives of Neit. She is associated with the banshee of later folklore.
The Dagda...The Daglan in acotar who has the hounds and they had the Wild Hunt....
The Morrígan is mainly associated with war and fate, especially with foretelling doom, death, or victory in battle. In this role she often appears as a crow, the badb.
and lastly from Pertcha's page.
According to Jacob Grimm (1882), Perchta was spoken of in Old High German in the 10th century as Frau Berchta and thought to be a white-robed goddess who oversaw spinning and weaving, like the myths of Holda. He believed she was the feminine equivalent of Berchtold, and was sometimes the leader of the Wild Hunt.
Now I'm gonna talk more about Mor connection to Wild Hunt in acotar and some connections.
While talking about the hounds I took Lanthys's quotes. He was a part of the Wild Hunt.
“Oh, I do not think so,” Lanthys seethed. “I rode in the Wild Hunt before you were even a scrap of existence, witch from Oorid. I summoned the hounds and the world cowered at their baying. I galloped at the head of the Hunt, and Fae and beast bowed before us.”
But what is Lanyths actually? Cassian gives us this information. He is a First God.
Cassian took a bite of food. A good sign that this, at least, was acceptable territory. “When you lived in the human world, you had legends of the dread beasts and faeries who would slaughter you if they ever breached the wall, didn’t you? Things that slithered through open windows to drink the blood of children? Things that were so wicked, so cruel there was no hope against their evil?” The hair on her neck rose. “Yes.” Those stories had always unnerved and petrified her. “They were based on truth. Based on ancient, near-primordial beings who existed here before the High Fae split into courts, before the High Lords. Some call them the First Gods. They were beings with almost no physical form, but a keen, vicious intelligence. Humans and Fae alike were their prey. Most were hunted and driven into hiding or imprisonment ages ago. But some remained, lurking in forgotten corners of the land.” He swallowed another mouthful. “When I was nearing three hundred years old, one of them appeared again, crawling out of the roots of a mountain. Before he went into the Prison and confinement weakened him, Lanthys could turn into wind and rip the air from your lungs, or turn into rain and drown you on dry land; he could peel your skin from your body with a few movements. He never revealed his true form, but when I faced him, he chose to appear as swirling mist. He fathered a race of faeries that still plague us, who thrived under Amarantha’s reign—the Bogge. But the Bogge are lesser, mere shadows compared to Lanthys. If there is such a thing as evil incarnate, it is him. He has no mercy, no sense of right or wrong. There is him, and there is everyone else, and we are all his prey. His methods of killing are creative and slow. He feasts on fear and pain as much as the flesh itself.”(acosf)
So we learn quiet a few things from this quote.
Lantys is a first god.
First gods were near-primordial beings who existed before the High Fae split into courts, before the high lords.
They were beings with almost no physical form, but a keen, vicious intelligence.
But some First gods remained, lurking in forgotten corners of the land.”
Now how this connects to Mor? The Mor's acofas chapter.
In Mor's chapter we have this:
But Mor scented nothing, saw nothing. The tendril of power she speared toward the woods revealed only the usual birds and small beasts. A hart drinking from a hole in an iced-over stream. Nothing, except—.There, between a snarl of thorns. A patch of darkness. It did not move, did not seem to do anything but linger. And watch. Familiar and yet foreign. Something in her power whispered not to touch it, not to go near it. Even from this distance. Mor obeyed. But she still watched that darkness in the thorns, as if a shadow had fallen asleep amongst them. Not like Azriel’s shadows, twining and whispering. Something different. Something that stared back, watching her in turn. Best left undisturbed. Especially with the promise of a crackling fire and glass of wine at home. “Let’s take the short route back,” she murmured to Ellia, patting her neck. The horse needed no further encouragement before launching into a gallop, turning them from the woods and its shadowy watcher. Over and between the hills they rode, until the woods were hidden in the mists behind them. What else might she see, witness, in lands where none in the Night Court had ventured for millennia?(acofas)
She sees a shadows... and what we know about the first gods? with almost no physical form.
It stares back at her, watching her...and what we know about the first gods? but a keen, vicious intelligence.
She was in the lands where none in the Night Courth had ventured for Millennia... what we know about the first gods? lurking in forgotten corners of the land.
Did she saw a First God? Are there more like it? Why mor was the one to see it? This is where her connection to Wild Hunt comes from? She is connected to Wild Hunt? Maybe she is going to be the leader of the Wild Hunt?
Let's not forget that in Wild Hunt myth there are valkyries.
The Wild Hunt is a folklore motif occurring across various northern European cultures. Wild Hunts typically involve a chase led by a mythological figure escorted by a ghostly or supernatural group of hunters engaged in pursuit. The leader of the hunt is often a named figure associated with Odin in Germanic legends, but may variously be a historical or legendary figure like Theodoric the Great, the Danish king Valdemar Atterdag, the dragon slayer Sigurd, the WelshpsychopompGwyn ap Nudd, biblical figures such as Herod, Cain, Gabriel, or the Devil, or an unidentified lost soul or spirit either male or female. The hunters are generally the souls of the dead or ghostly dogs, sometimes fairies, valkyries, or elves.
and Mor in acosf suggested that she might join them.
Mor’s brows bunched. “So you really are learning Valkyrie techniques.” Nesta nodded. They’d been so busy during their dancing lessons that the details of training hadn’t come up. Mor grinned. “You mind if I start joining you once this business with Vallahan is over? I never got to train with the Valkyries before the first War, and after it, they were all gone.”
So Mor as the leader of the Wild Hunt?
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nikethestatue · 2 years
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tbh i kind of assumed lanthys worked with the daglan or was one of them bc of his association with the wild hunt
“Oh, I do not think so,” Lanthys seethed. “I rode in the Wild Hunt before you were even a scrap of existence, witch from Oorid. I summoned the hounds and the world cowered at their baying. I galloped at the head of the Hunt, and Fae and beast bowed before us.”
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Rhys turned a few pages in the book, to an illustration of a host of riders on horses and all manner of beasts. “The Daglan delighted in terrorizing the Fae and humans under their control. The Wild Hunt was a way to keep all of us in line. They’d gather a host of their fiercest, most merciless warriors and grant them free rein to kill as they pleased. The Daglan possessed mighty, monstrous beasts—hounds, they called them, though they didn’t look like the hounds we know—that they used to run prey to ground before they tortured and killed them. It’s a terrible history, and much of it might be elaborated myths.”
That's what I think too. And I don't think that the Daglan are the same thing as the Asteri. I think that the 'gods' are the Asteri.
The daglan seem to be feeding from the magic of the land, whereas the Asteri feed from the magic of people.
Could they be the equivalent of the Archangels in HOSAB? Powerful and in charge, but not quite at the top?
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spaceshipkat · 3 years
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But Cassian said to the monster he feared above all others, “So you plan to swirl around me like a rain cloud? What of that handsome form I saw in the mirror?”
Cassian, that’s gay
Lanthys inhaled. “What are you?”
“A witch,” [Nesta] breathed. “From Oorid’s dark heart.”
sj///m while typing this: ooh i’m so clever, this is so cool, go me
also, i really don’t get why Nesta keeps calling herself a witch, or why other people do, too. 
“But you do not smell of Oorid’s heaviness, its despair.” An inhale, still behind them, blocking the way out. “Your scent…” He sighed. “A pity you’ve marred such a scent with Cassian’s stink. I can barely distinguish anything on you besides his essence.”
i will not tell you what i thought when i read “his essence” but i’m pretty sure y’all can guess bc i have the sense of humor of a 12yo boy
also, these excerpts are all from the same scene, but i cut stuff bw them
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