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segasister · 3 years

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Based on your conversation with dudes107, this anon here think you and several others seem to care more about keeping up your social justice bonafides than acknowledging the very real problems with certain things people say that are inherently vitriolic and violent no matter who or what they're aimed. These are the kinds of loopholes that even the ABUSERS you recognize like LILIAN VALERIE PEET (NOT ORCHARD, SHE STOLE THAT NAME FROM HER EX) will use to escape getting the boot as they deserve.

So does that mean that the atrocious actions of the people mentioned in said conversation no longer matter? That the terrible things they did should just be forgotten about just because they’re dead and gone? Lemme ask you the following:

Were you weeping on the day that Charles Manson died?

Did you shed tears for Mark Salling after his passing?

Did your heart go to the loved ones of Jeffrey Epstein when his death was announced?

Osama bin Laden?

Saddam Hussein?

Any other piece of human bile who committed atrocities on any scale?

If you answered yes to any of the above, then you don’t understand either. What these people did was completely awful, violent or otherwise. It would feel wrong to mourn them in any capacity, unless you knew them personally, because that would be an insult to the many people they’ve hurt. Is celebrating their deaths too far? Possibly, but I would most definitely feel disgusted with myself if I did the opposite.

If you answered no, then why are we here? I didn’t respond the way I did out of obligations of social justice, but because I hate seeing anyone defending terrible people just because they’re safe in their graves, i.e. the very real problems that they themselves caused. Something bad doesn’t have to happen to you specifically, or to anyone in your inner circle, in order for it to be a problem; but then again, I’m hoping you already knew that.

You notice I never brought him up, because that’d fall under Godwin’s Law, but there are still people who mourn his passing over seventy-five years later, and yet claim to not support him or his ideals. And some of those same people would chastise others for being happy that he’s gone and can no longer hurt anybody else.

That’s what I got from them: they’d use death, including their own father’s (which feels incredibly scummy, by the way), as a means to yell at people who don’t respond, “morally correct,” to that death, something that would fall under the, “social justice bonafides,” that you brought up. They read as someone who would tolerate intolerance because that would be tolerant of them, and not tolerating intolerance wouldn’t be tolerant of them.

I myself used to be Centrist and realized just how awful I was because I’d do the same thing they’re doing now: for example, say that it was wrong to celebrate someone dying just because. Now? I realize that some double standards need to be in place. You have to be intolerant intolerance because otherwise, nothing good would be tolerated. I remember being conflicted over a college question because, in allowing Natives to wear their headdresses to graduation, I’d also allow certain other people who I will not name to wear any insignia representing their movement, even though they’re not one and the same.

And that’s another issue with being a Centrist: equating things that can’t be equated. Of course a YouTube critic with a minor following who is also a serial abuser is not going to have the same weight as a radio host with a large following who influenced said following into being terrible people. Both are bad. Condemning one does not mean condoning the other. Alternatively, you don’t have to hate Trump but like Biden; you can very well hate both of them equally. Ironically, moving further left made me realize this (I’d argue that I was always left-leaning, and only claimed to be Centrist to appeal to my right-leaning family, but I digress).

So in conclusion, I know very well what I was talking about in my discussion with them. Is it wrong to say certain things about certain people, yes. However, certain other people deserve that vitriol, because an actual celebrity is not the same as someone like you or me. Do you understand that much? Anything I need to clarify?

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