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mschelle · 2 months
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Well hot damn if it wasn't enough for this loser to throw a public tantrum now he's going out of his way to follow predestrogen on other platforms and start harassing her there!!! You can't hide these Matt I got the screenshots lol!!!!!!
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HE'S BLATANTLY LYING OUT OF HIS ASS!! SPREAD IT AROUND!! And also since she seems to be from Ireland even though I don't even know shit about eu laws from what little I do know this is a big violation of GDPR and should be reported as such!! https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rights-citizens/redress/what-should-i-do-if-i-think-my-personal-data-protection-rights-havent-been-respected_en
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kalamity-jayne · 2 months
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One of the revelations from CEO Matt's public meltdown over trans women that isn't really being talked about much but is nevertheless mindblowing to me:
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WHAT IN THE CRISPY KENTUCKY FRIED FUCK!?!?!
Like, did everyone else already know that there was apparently someone on moderation who was effectively bounty hunting trans women and I'm just the last to know or what?
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scienceandfandoms · 2 months
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I know this has been said before, more eloquently and by larger and more popular people than I, but it NEEDS to be stressed that Matt's actions aren't just "haha thin skinned CEO felt threatened by hammer car" he is a transmisogynist attempting to justify (and enable other transmisogynists to justify) the repeated harassment of a trans woman, as part of this site and the world's increasing violence against trans women.
I understand the jokes and the memes. I've reblogged a few myself. But if that isn't paired with actually discussing and shining a light on the ACTUAL transmisogyny issue, and supporting trans women both on this site and in your life, you are missing the point and failing trans women.
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canidae-dyke · 8 months
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I’m so fucking tired of this stupid fucking resurgence of people arguing that misandry is real or a coherent form of oppression at all so I wanna address this more directly. Most of the arguments I’ve seen rely on the fact that men are harmed and constrained by the patriarchy, and you know what, that’s true!
But cis people are harmed and constrained by the existence of the gender binary. That doesn’t mean that cisphobia is real. Straight people are harmed and constrained by heteronormativity, but that doesn’t make heterophobia real.
I really thought this stuff was obvious but I guess it isn’t. I need all of you who are complaining about “misandry” to understand that you sound like the down with cis bus post
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growing-past-me · 2 months
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I’ve said worse things to my parents as a sign of love. Get the fuck over yourself.
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faggy--butch · 4 months
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Trans men and women tend to get viewed as either disgusting male freaks or perfect feminine female goddesses based entirely on identity and vibes alone, forcing trans men to either detranstion to talk about the issues faced, or shut up and hate themselves and grovel at the feet of their "betters", and trans women are forced to preform the highest standards of femininity or be shunned and live in fear of being cast out and not being "woman enough" facing the constant need to prove themselves to avoid being seen as interlopers. these things are similar, these problems overlap, and yet people go on to pretend that one is the most victimized victim and the other is the "subjector and oppressor" (Interchangeable) and neither can truly understand the other. these ideas being perpetuated by others within and outside of these groups. It drives me up the wall that there are people pretending this helps anyone, that either benefits from the others oppression in anyway. Personally, from what I've seen a lot of it comes out as like gender insecurity, from the inside groups, which is pretty sad, but also extremely frustrating to be lashed out at for being unwilling to accept this gender essentialist false binary
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textk4kira · 14 days
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No group of trans people has inherent power/privilege over another group of trans people.
Trans men are not your oppressors.
Trans women are not your oppressors.
Nonbinary people, regardless of AGAB, are not your oppressors.
It is important to interrogate your own biases towards your fellow trans people.
Oftentimes, a decent place to start would be to make friends with Other trans people. You'll probably find that you have much more in common with them then you realize.
I'm a transmasc demigirl, if you'd like to know more about our community and my experiences, please feel free to leave a comment, send a dm or send an ask.
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I think the hardest part of being trans is the uncertainty.
Like, there's a new band I kind of like. They've only released a few songs, but I like those songs, and I like the bands style, so I followed them on Instagram to keep up with them. Neither member of the band is openly queer but many of their (young) fans talk about how their dynamic and their music fits with a popular gay ship. The band has really leaned into it and made content to appeal to that, so I feel confident in assuming they're decently gay friendly, at least. But said popular ship is from Harry Potter, so I don't feel at all confident that they're trans friendly. They haven't said or done anything specifically transphobic, but they haven't specifically said anything in support of trans people either. So it creates that uncertainty. Am I safe in this fan space? Am I wanted? Will I be accepted?
Even in queer spaces, it's the same story. I've been in queer spaces that claimed to be trans friendly. They have name tags and pronoun stickers and pins available to everyone, a trans flag on the wall. But most of the staff won't try to use the correct pronouns. And trans men aren't welcome in the queer men's group they run. And when they invite a group to do free haircuts, they won't cut trans men's hair because they "don't do women's haircuts."
It's like, I can go to pride with a trans flag and five different he/him buttons pinned to my chest, and I'll still get misgendered to my face.
Every time you want to be a part of something, you have to ask yourself
-do they accept trans people
-if so, is that acceptance limited and conditional
-do they accept trans people as a part of the group or do they allow trans people to be there but not a part of it, is it a "you can tag along but you're not one of us" situation. A "trans people can join but gay trans men are not "real" gay men and trans lesbians are not "real" lesbians" situation.
Every fucking thing is uncertain.
The tweet has long been deleted, but years ago, Laura Jane Grace tweeted something to the effect of 'do you think I don't know that everyone I admire would hate me'. And that it. That's the shape of it. You just have to live with the idea that there's a good chance anyone you look up to, would hate you.
And that eats at you.
It really does.
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pulpypunk · 8 months
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TW, trans slurs and transphobia
I usually don't post my takes on here but I keep seeing weird, antagonistic infighting posts.
It's not okay to use someone's anatomy as an insult. ex, "chick with a dick", "cuntboy" or "zippertits" . Saying you'll impregnate trans men and mascs is disgusting. Calling trans women and femmes "futas" or "traps" is disgusting. Reducing someone you don't like to their sex markers is disgusting, regardless of gender identity or biology or chronically online discourse.
Again, any excessive focus on sex markers is a NOT okay, along with deadnaming, misgendering, and calling people abusive names. It's gross to do and you are not an activist if you do this. You are not helping the community. It's baffling that this is something we haven't learned by 2023.
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slimesaurian · 2 months
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If you feel bad seeing this current car hammer explosion of transmisogyny and how it's affecting the trans women you follow on this site, please please PLEASE let them know that you appreciate them.
In an ecosystem where we are liable to have our entire presence wiped at any given moment if we upset the wrong people, we need you caring about us and loving us while you can. Because then we at least know we mattered to someone before we were left to the wolves and thrown in the trash.
I'm serious. Message us and tell us you care, reach out and offer to help, send a few bucks for us to buy something nice to take our minds off things. Anything to let us know we matter to you.
Because you never know when we'll be gone.
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dizzy-daizey · 2 months
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i offer you a name when you ask. its a name i use and enjoy because it feels like warm air and green grass. i smile and listen to the wind chimes.
you take the name and mock it for being a twisted perversion of the one you gave me. i lock it up in a red box of thorns alongside your gift.
this continues for years. maybe its a different person or experience, but the air gets a little cooler each time, threatening to freeze my will solid and force me into rigidity.
a long time has passed. ive lost count of the names now, drowned in the muck where grass used to be. each one poisoned like weeds and i am left with a fractured identity.
i offer you a name when you ask. the grass is dry now, and i shiver in the cold. i pause to consider how long it will last and mourn it as it leaves my lips already.
i wonder if the sun will shine on me again, and how i would greet it.
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autogyne-redacted · 5 months
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Ok, so let's talk about "misandry."
(Heads up that I use terrible US foreign policy as an example of underlying gender ideology, Death to America of course)
1) if we're working within a social justice, privilege-oppression type framework, there is no systemic oppression of men as men, or trans men as trans men (beyond transphobia). Within these privilege oppression frameworks treating misandry or transandrophobia as a real thing is gonna have disastrous consequences.
2) But we need to be abandoning the identity politics social justice orthodoxy as fast as we can. Occupying a position of privilege within the discourse is dehumanizing and hellish, it has a terrible track record with transmisogyny (not a coincidence), and trying to map gendered power just by looking at identity groups means you miss a ton of what's happening within the groups, and in less straight forward ways.
3) a huge part of the gender binary is between camab ppl as (instrumental) subjects and cafab ppl as (responsive, feeling) objects. And this is fucked all around.
To pick one of the more egregious examples, US military directives make heavy use of the category of "military aged males." People outside this category are (theoretically) assumed to be non combatants while "military aged males" in ~warzones~ are basically valid targets by default. https://tinyurl.com/4skt53tx
This category also faces extra exclusion from refugee and asylum status: https://tinyurl.com/4txsmepy
We could explain this as a symptom of misogyny. That women should also be recognized as being capable of enacting violence and treated equally. This is the most straight forward application of orthodox gender theory and likely the worst.
Or we could say that there's something about the intersection of being Arab/Muslim/young/read as male that leads to a unique oppression.
But it's not like it's just this intersection. If we look at prison populations, or who gets hit by police violence, or weaponized accusations of Sexual Assault the logic is actually fairly consistent here, if a little messy to talk about.
Ppl seen as men are seen as capable of wielding power and this leads to benefits if they're seen as basically good. If they're seen as crazy, dangerous, evil, hostile, or at risk of being any of these, being seen as capable of violence makes shit way worse. Lots of intersections push you further towards being viewed as a threat.
(A pretty good bite sized model of transmisogyny is that it misgenders us as men + we get negative respect since we rejected masculinity + it frames us as crazy/dangerous).
Ppl seen as women are going to be seen as less competent, in need of guidance, control and protection by default. But it comes with certain (conditional) protections. Violence against women certainly happens, but the fact that it's a special protected category says a lot. (There's a lot to say about how much these protections are worth, who they really apply to and when they disappear and what happens then, but it's very clear that they exist and that they mean something).
4) so am I arguing for the existence of misandry? Absolutely not*. Gender is just a fucked up system of division and control all around. Privilege frameworks suggest that women are going to experience the same shit as men they share identities with + misogyny + possible extra intersectional oppression. And while this approach is sometimes helpful, I think a better default framework is that gender is just a way to create more social categories for a more complicated system of control with common threads like the subject-object binary that can play to different ways in different contexts.
The whole thing needs to be dismantled and we need to see ppl across gender categories as whole human beings with a meaningful interiority, the capacity for violence, etc. And if we recognize that gender is a complicated system of control, it follows naturally that our gender discourse shouldn't all ask men to sit down / shut up / listen.
5) the issue with transandrophobia BS is that it really wants to exceptionalize the trans masc experience. "It's fucked up that I'm being seen as suspect and capable of violence like terrible cis men, I'm obviously one of the good ones." And as they fight for the best of both worlds ("I should be respected like a man but still seen as incapable of chauvinism") it pushed naturally for trans fems to get the worst of both worlds.
6) returning to feminist "man-hating" there's a lot i oppose for being essentialist or doubling down on subject-object binary. Beyond that, a lot of it is just mean. And like, ppl can be jaded and mean sometimes. But a lot of social justice feminist dogma was ppl developing a bristly defensiveness from constant harassment and trolling. Ppl defending this as an understandable response, and then that shifting into codifying and valorizing it. And I just think it's a miserable way to live and it's miserable to be on the receiving end of it.
I think some grace and understanding for ppl being jaded and bristly is rly helpful but I'm done with valorizing it.
7) all of this said, basic feminist takes about men having lots of pressure and motivations to be chauvinist still apply. And they certainly apply to trans men. But there's a difference between having social expectations that you be a chauvinist and bowing to that pressure. And lots of men are chill and nice! Yes even cishet men!
It's easy to want to draw a hard line where you're "one of the good ones" and are categorically separated from the possibility of being sexist (ontologically incapable of violence, even?) and that goes really poorly.
(most of my beef with transandrophobia is that it's doing this + exceptionalizing trans masc experience in a way that fucks over trans fems).
But I'm not gonna ask ppl to constantly self flagellate or be hyper vigilant to make sure they don't slip up. Sin frameworks are miserable and it's not like being interpersonally shitty in a way that lines up with oppressive systems actually has consequences that much worse than just being an asshole.
So much of the more aggressive side of social justice just feels like ways to treat enemies, not your friends or ppl you want to be in community with.
I'm glad we've been moving on from it.
*editing a footnote since this has already come up a couples times / this post seems to be leaving my immediate circles: by saying misandry isn't real I mean: there isn't a systemic oppression of men as men that parallels misogyny. Gendered oppression isn't a "both sides" situation. When "egalitarian" or mra types brought "misandry" into the discourse this is what they were pushing for.
While I object to the idea that all men evenly oppress all women, patriarchy absolutely has men at the top. It's a complex and multi-directional system of power but there is an overall gendered slant to it. My framework here is still a feminist framework.
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canidae-dyke · 2 months
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This has been said but I feel the need to say it again: if you call a trans woman a “baeddel”, that’s it! It’s over! You can’t be fucking trusted around trans women anymore!
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growing-past-me · 2 months
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Oh you think you’re oppressed liberal? Try saying you think both transmisogny and transandrophobia are real and aren’t diametrically opposed and see how the tolerant left treats you.
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impunkster-syndrome · 21 days
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I think it's really funny that the "Support and listen to transfems always on what transmascs experience" crowd at times removes that support if you're a transfem that disagrees with them that transmascs experience transandrophobia and have unique experiences (They do).
You only like the transfems that agree with you and think the rest of us shouldn't be listened to. Just say it so we can be done here. You think it is just fine to write off any transfem that disagrees with you as a dumb bitch.
My transfem experiences are not the opposite of my transmasc experiences. They are forever linked. I'm nonbinary and shape my body and internal gender experiences as I please in the ways I can while being closeted.
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