Toyota responds to furious Hydrogen car customers who are 'living a nightmare'

Quote: "Frozen pumps. Skyrocketing fuel costs. Plummeting resale values. Here's why owners who bought into Toyota's hydrogen dream feel "cheated and misled."" Source: insideevs.com

P.S. If something like that happened to electric cars and their charging stations, then there would be huge headlines and dramatic articles in all the mass media... but since Toyota and other legacy car manufacturers buy advertising, the big media is pretty quiet... and people still falling into the hydrogen "trap"...An electric car can be charged at any electrical outlet at home, at work, at school or at solar panels in the meadow...In 2040, almost no one will drive a hydrogen car....

Toyota Mirai

Um passo maior que a perna em quatro rodas

Eu tenho um amigo que é jornalista automotivo. Ele pegou o trem rumo ao aeroporto com uma viagem para Pequim onde cobrirá o Salão do automóvel local diante das novidades das montadoras chinesas como a GWM e BYD. Os chineses apostaram nos elétricos como uma forma de ter o chamado China factor e sua indústria é temida pelos americanos assim como foi os carros japoneses nos anos 1980 e o…

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Union Minister Nitin Gadkari Gifts Hydrogen-Powered Supercar to Deputy CM

🚀 Union Minister Nitin Gadkari Takes Green Driving to the Next Level! 🌿💨 Known for his love of alternative fuels, Gadkari Ji just gifted Bihar's Deputy CM Tejashwi Yadav a hydrogen-powered supercar! #Nitingadkari #EV #IONIQ5

Nitin Gadkari, Union Minister for Road Transport and Highways, is one of the country’s most forward-thinking politicians. The minister is also well-known for his attempts to increase the number of alternative-fuel automobiles in the country. Notably, the MoRTH minister has been seen driving around in some of the country’s most expensive electric and hydrogen-powered vehicles. His vehicles change…

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H2 Moves Berlin: Deutschlands größte Wasserstoff-Elektroflotte fährt in der Hauptstadt

Mit der bundesweit größten Wasserstoffflotte in der gewerblichen Personenbeförderung will H2 Moves Berlin eine nachhaltige und emissionsfreie Mobilitätsoption bieten. Die Alltagstauglichkeit von Wasserstoff-Elektrofahrzeugen zeigt das gemeinsame Pilotprojekt H2 Moves Berlin von Toyota Deutschland, Anglo American sowie der SafeDriver Group mit ENNOO aktuell in Berlin. Mit der bundesweit größten…

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बड़ी खबर! देश की पहली हाईड्रोजन कार Toyota Mirai लॉन्च, अब पेट्रोल-डीजल की झंझट खत्म

बड़ी खबर! देश की पहली हाईड्रोजन कार Toyota Mirai लॉन्च, अब पेट्रोल-डीजल की झंझट खत्म

नई दिल्ली. भारत में फॉर्च्यूनर (fortuner) बेचने वाली कंपनी टोयोटा किर्लोस्कर (Toyota Kirloskar) ने बुधवार को भारत की पहली ऑल-हाइड्रोजन इलेक्ट्रिक कार मिराई (Toyota Mirai) को लॉन्च कर दिया है. टोयोटा मिराई एफसीईवी (oyota Mirai FCEV) दुनिया की पहली हाइड्रोजन फ्यूल सेल इलेक्ट्रिक कार में से एक है और यह शुद्ध हाइड्रोजन से बनने वाली बिजली पर चलती है. Toyota Mirai को एक जीरो-एमिशन यानी जीरो प्रदूषण…

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Wegbereiter Toyota: Mit Wasserstoff in Richtung Klimaneutralität

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Hydrogen has much potential as a clean, renewable energy source and China, as the leading producer, is well placed to lead the global push[...]

After a decade of tech briefings and blue-sky imagining of the on-off prospects for hydrogen as a radical green force driving us towards net zero in 2050, a mood of optimism has recently warmed the room.

Scepticism about the feasibility of hydrogen power – complaints that the technology is too complex, too expensive and not even green – has given way to progress, and China seems set to lead the way. [...]

Closer to home were reports in June that Citybus, owned by Bravo Transport, acquired the first hydrogen-powered double-decker bus in Hong Kong. Here at last was evidence that Hong Kong is doing something that might put us in the vanguard of efforts to assuage global warming. Bravo Transport indeed.

Then, last week, we were brought abruptly down to the ground with a bureaucratic bump: since our regulators regard hydrogen as an explosive rather than an energy source, our first hydrogen-powered bus has been marooned at the Citybus depot, barred from the roads.

Under the Dangerous Goods Ordinance, hydrogen is regarded as a dangerous substance, making it illegal to produce, store or transport it – even if it is at the heart of a fuel cell driving a new double-decker. Hydrogen optimists posit that, by 2050, hydrogen could account for as much as 12 per cent of global energy use. In a “hydrogen society”, H2 would not only fuel road vehicles, railways and ships, but also address home heating needs and the power needs of heavy industries like steel, chemicals and cement. The China Hydrogen Alliance says hydrogen demand in China will triple to 60 million tonnes by 2050. It also expects renewable-based hydrogen production to reach 100 million tonnes by 2060. So far, we have only seen baby steps. Toyota and Hyundai are the only carmakers offering hydrogen-fuelled cars in the international market. Since its launch in 2014, the dominant Toyota Mirai had sold just under 18,000 units as of last year, mostly in the United States – a far cry from electric vehicles (EVs), with global sales of over 6 million in 2021. China is the one economy focusing keenly on hydrogen trucks and buses, with at least a dozen companies in the fray. Foshan-based Sinosynergy, in particular, caused excitement this month with the delivery of 100 hydrogen-powered heavy trucks to Jinnan Steel Group.

There was a big push during the Winter Olympics earlier this year, with 212 hydrogen buses shuttling competitors around Beijing and a further 444 buses operating out in Zhangjiakou, all served by some 30 hydrogen refuelling stations.

China is well placed to lead for a variety of reasons: it is by far the world’s leading producer and consumer of hydrogen, mostly for industrial purposes. Compare Germany’s production of 2 million tonnes a year with China’s 33 million. It also makes almost a tenth of the world’s electrolysers, and about 35 per cent of the world’s electrolyser equipment and components. [...]

While the government aims to lift hydrogen production, it is still wrestling with the problem of making it green. About 80 per cent of production so far is of “grey” hydrogen, generated using fossil fuels. Even by 2025, green hydrogen production is expected to rise to just 100,000-200,000 tonnes.

Much depends on the development of wind and solar power for hydrogen production out in China’s sun- and wind-rich western regions like Qinghai and Xinjiang, and the development of a pipeline network to get the liquefied hydrogen to China’s wealthy eastern consumer markets.

China has also yet to address in any meaningful way the challenge of building hydrogen refuelling infrastructure. At present, apart from the 30 stations around Beijing for the Olympics, there are barely more than 200 refuelling stations countrywide. [...]

The fact that you can fill a hydrogen tank in around five minutes and travel much further on a single refill (a Sinosynergy hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is able to travel 500 to 600km on a single tank, triple the distance of a battery-powered vehicle) gives hydrogen vehicles some clear competitive advantages.

It is also an advantage that hydrogen can underpin a “hydrogen society”, replacing fossil fuels far beyond transport, as long as the hydrogen is green of course.

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It is 14 times more expensive to drive a Toyota Mirai than a Tesla EV

P.S. Mostly, hydrogen is just a delaying tactic to save fossil fuel...

Toyota Mirai

the fucked up thing about driving a car from 1996 is even if i had the money to get a replacement at this point i wouldn't because a.) i want electric if i'm going to get a new car and b.) no electric vehicle 1. is japanese therefore has the right internal form factor for short bitches and 2. has the same sedan/sports car hybrid thing the '96 maxima has going on except for the toyota mirai. and fucking lol hydrogen fuel cell cars

2400 KM CON UN CHILO DI IDROGENO: L’AUTO DEL RECORD

2488 chilometri con un solo chilogrammo di idrogeno, l’Eco Runner XIII ha stabilito il record di percorrenza su strada per un’auto, coprendo la distanza più lunga di sempre con un pieno di carburante completamente pulito e senza emissioni.

La Eco-Runner XIII è il risultato di un progetto studentesco nato nel 2005 presso la TU Delft, la più grande università tecnica olandese. Ogni anno un team multidisciplinare di studenti lavora per migliorare e innovare la city car a idrogeno, con l’obiettivo di promuovere la mobilità sostenibile e dimostrare l’efficienza dell’idrogeno come carburante pulito e sostenibile. L’ultimo modello di Eco-Runner XIII è stato progettato per essere estremamente efficiente, sicuro, economico ed ecologico, entrando nel guinness dei primati. Il progetto si è concentrato sulla robustezza, la leggerezza e l’aerodinamicità del telaio per garantire un’alta efficienza senza aumentare il peso dell’auto.

L’auto rappresenta il risultato di anni di lavoro e miglioramenti, diventando oltre cento volte più efficiente dei veicoli a combustibili fossili attualmente sul mercato. Mentre stanno arrivando sulle strade i primi camion a idrogeno, anche le prime autovetture a idrogeno sono già in circolazione. La Toyota Mirai e la Hyundai Nexo sono attualmente le prime di serie che utilizzano una cella a combustibile a idrogeno come fonte di energia. Sulle strade aumenta il numero di veicoli a emissioni zero e secondo i giovani ricercatori della TU Delft, sarà importante integrare i motori dei veicoli alimentati a idrogeno con quelli elettrici a batteria, per raggiungere più in fretta la completa sostenibilità ambientale nei trasporti.

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Fonte: Eco Runner

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