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there's something about eda going from despising school to running a school that hits deep. something about rebuilding instead of destroying. something about turning anger into positive change. something about recognizing that you have the power to be better than those who hurt you. you get what i'm saying
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maxiemumdamage · 1 year
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I love that Luz resolves the problems of the show by being herself.
She convinces the Collector to try being kind, she realizes the hallucinations and wakes up Eva and King thanks to her fandom knowledge, she used her study of glyphs extensively in the final battle. She also tries to redo her dramatic entrance with better quips and makes dumb jokes with the Titan.
But more than that…technically, the Titan could have given their power to anyone. Anyone close to King or of better moral standing than Belos (which is a low bar) could have taken the Titan’s power and fought with it if they’d ended up in that trans dimensional space.
But it’s Luz, not because she’s the only one who can, but because she’s a good person who’s been there for King and the rest of the Isles.
Luz isn’t the Chosen One - she’s just the one who was chosen. There’s no magical destiny about her defeating a great evil — she just was a kindhearted person who had the tools to help and did.
And she did so much. For the Boiling Isles, and for a lot of weirdos on earth.
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probablyhuntersmom · 1 year
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Endless things to say about these two...
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Luz means "light", while Hunter was named by Belos in accordance with witch hunters:
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Their encounters with one another in Hunting Palismen and Hollow Mind would set future events in motion:
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and also led up to Luz telling him "You're family now":
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What happened in Thanks to Them reflects the Hollow Mind paintings shown below:
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Belos took both of their lives, and we hear a contrast between Luz saying "I feel like I should be used to this by now, but...I still don't know what to say" and Hunter expressing the desires which he never dared to express in Belos's throne room, since the Titan had yet to pass the wisdom of choosing oneself to Luz:
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They were pulled out of the water in which they were sinking, by the parent of their adoptive sibling (who also cared about them deeply):
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The loved ones who revived them, passed them the last of their strength in order for these kids to have new life:
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And King's dad asked Luz to choose whether she'd receive his life force which he offered, while Belos coercively violated Hunter to use his body like he would a puppet.
The things that Luz and Hunter went through, in parallel, underscore the clash between Belos who told endless lies about the Titan's will, and the Titan himself - King's father - who had very different plans for the Isles. Caught in between:
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They were put through so much.
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(The big comparison post I made before thinking of this analysis - it's just a picset and not a meta/analysis - is here: link)
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wixhing0nastar · 2 years
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Did anyone else notice that Luz’s glyphs weren’t working like normal during this latest episode?
Like, these are both screenshots from O Titan, Where Art Thou and as per usual, her glyphs activate on the paper and create their intended effect.
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However, during Clouds on the Horizon, Luz’s glyphs are making spell circles like how other witches have to draw them!
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And you know what the only thing that’s really changed between these two episodes is?
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Luz has her palismen! I’m willing to bet that just having them in her backpack while they pick their form is giving Luz a power boost! Which is why she’s suddenly making spell circles with her glyphs!
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anthurak · 1 year
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So Luz’s meeting with Dad-Titan in the finale actually really nicely explained WHY there needed to be the whole time-loop with Luz being the one to teach Phillip/Belos how to use glyphs.
It affirms/reinforces the idea that Belos was always nothing but a fraud who never had any true understanding of the power he was using. Because it’s clear he COULDN’T figure out glyphs on his own and never would have without help. At the end of the day, ALL the knowledge and power Belos had was either given by others or stolen from them.
Instead, it was ALWAYS Luz who figured out how glyphs worked. SHE was the one who actually connected with the Titan. Luz was always the one to understand the magic she was using.
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the-collector-blog · 1 year
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today on Top 10 Most Painful Anime Parallels,
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(ps: watching the video would help support me! there are even more parallels in it, it's 32 sec long.)
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rulersre4chf4n · 8 months
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My personal biggest pet peeve regarding analyses of Belos (obviously aside from “he’s just evil and analyzing him at all means you support his actions” and “he deserves redemption actually”) is that so many people take his hatred of witches completely at face value--as simply being the result of his indoctrination into witch-hunting as a child in Gravesfield, that these are just the beliefs he was raised with and that he never grew to see past his prejudice like Caleb did. But that is such an oversimplification of his character, and it also ignores what is in my opinion the main driving force behind all of his actions: Caleb himself.
Belos doesn’t think all witches are evil because he was raised to be a witch-hunter. He HAS to keep himself convinced that they are, because if the witches are not evil, then he has two realities to face: 
Caleb left him of his own free will, not because he was under a spell or led astray by the devil.
Belos murdered his own brother, the only person he ever loved, for nothing.
And these CANNOT be true.
Belos’s need to be the hero who saves humanity from witches is not the reason he killed his brother, it’s the result of it.
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shadysadie · 1 year
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I really, really like this moment from King’s Tide between Hunter and Alador. These two don’t really know each other, they don’t really trust each other. They are cooperating with each other for the sake of their loved ones. But in this moment they both feel their sigils glow and they both know what that means. And they just look at each other in understanding.
I really like each facial expression here. Hunter looks vulnerable in a way we haven’t really seen him look before. We’ve seen him shocked, we’ve seen him traumatized, but we haven’t really seen him with this kind of child-like vulnerability. This is one of the few times Hunter actually looks like a kid, he’s looking up at the adult in the situation for some sort of reassurance. 
Alador, inspire of knowing Hunter for a couple of hours tops, looks at Hunter’s sigil before he looks at his own. Obviously, he’s worried about himself. He doesn’t want to die. He doesn’t want his kids to be orphaned. But still he’s looking at Hunter with sympathy and confirmation. He knows that if they fail, which they are honestly very likely to do, this boy who is no older than his own son, is going to die.
Yet neither one of them says a word, because they don’t want the younger kids to worry. Both of them will suffer in silence for as long as they can manage. This brief moment is the only moment they have to allow themselves to show their mutual fear.
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In the strictest sense, he is a Wittebane. In his bones and his blood, his name is Hunter Wittebane.
In the sense of legacy, he is a Clawthorne. In the history and long lost love of someone wearing a similar face to his, his name is Hunter Clawthorne.
In the sense of family, he is a Noceda. In his “in-every-single-way-but-blood” sister and the first adult to ever care unconditionally for his wellbeing, his name is Hunter Noceda.
Wittebane. Clawthorne. Noceda. Deamonne. Whispers. Any other name.
For a boy who started with nothing but smoke and mirrors for a family, how wonderful is it to now have choice.
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novelist-becca · 1 year
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Something I just realized:
Every time the end credits music DOESN’T play, is when the owl family is separated.
Agony of a Witch: Eda got captured.
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Clouds on the Horizon: the last time Luz saw Eda alive and well.
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King’s Tide: Luz was separated from King AND Eda.
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The way I see it is that the story’s ending wont play out properly if all three of them aren’t together.
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kindestegg · 1 year
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"Maybe if I ask her real nice, I won't have to turn her into a puppet!"
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So... this line has been puzzling me for a WHILE because it feels like it goes against the idea Collector's go-to default is to just puppet-ify everything.
UNTIL someone in a server I was a part of pointed out that hey, doesn't it seem like Collector is also actively trying to nudge King to play something else? That they're tired of this game?
And I thought about the capture the flag game suggestion.
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"What if we switch it up? We could play capture the flag! Us versus... everyone on the Isles!"
Okay, aside from the obvious commentary that Collector sees himself and King against the world (which is. another thing. I need to write up on *biting down on my arm*), it's interesting this implies the people would probably not be puppets anymore, since you'd probably need people who are conscious to actively play in the game, and the whole "people breathing on the moon" discussion doesn't seem like it would happen if they were considering the people as puppets.
It's also worth noting that Collector turning Lilith and Hooty into puppets happens immediately after King tells him The Owl House Game is like playing pretend...
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And also, after Collector asks King what role he gets to play, and King presumably tells him, he uh, does this...
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Which I'm guessing means he was pretty happy to hear he's going to be the main character. And then immediately after...
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... Do you think there's a possibility Collector's go-to isn't in fact to just capture people as puppets, but interpreted this immediately from King's talk of the Owl House Game?
He also lashes out at King for criticizing him over turning Terra into a puppet, claiming he's just "playing pretend".
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And considering how, from King's talk with Eda and Lilith, he's only losing his fear of making Collector mad NOW...
It's possible most of this was born out of a misunderstanding. Collector interpreted the game as having "lots of players" as puppets, the whole Isles as King put it, and King was too scared to tell him that wasn't it. No wonder Collector lashes out when told not to do so, to him it makes no sense because this is how the game is played in his view.
If he's getting tired of this game though, it also explains why he suggested not turning Eda into a puppet first, why he wanted to play something that would keep people free from such a spell, and even why he seemed slightly disappointed that he ended up turning Terra into a puppet too by the end, which is another sentient playmate lost, even if she made him angry.
So... if all of this could have been avoided if King had told Collector that this game shouldn't entail turning people into puppets, I think I have a hunch of the narrative purpose of all this.
It's telling the truth. King has to tell the truth. That there was no Owl House game, that he made it all up, that he was a scared kid desperate to save the people he loved and the Isles and that yes, he did use Collector.
King wasn't in the wrong for lying of course, because it was this or losing everything he loves. But things have been regardless severely more complicated because of this lie.
And I suspect he knows this, as he says he wants to talk to Collector to solve things. Maybe this talking is him telling the truth after all. He does say this directly after communicating that he's losing his fear of making Collector mad. Maybe he's finally gotten courage to confess the truth.
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It's also worth noting again that Collector... doesn't care that King is lying about some things? He barely reacts with anger or shock at him talking to Eda and Lilith and seeing that they're keeping this as secret from him, he only cares when it sounds like King might want to hurt him.
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It sounds silly when you put it this way, but the biggest obstacle keeping their relationship from fully realizing and them resolving things is just a misunderstanding. King wrongfully believing Collector might hurt him and Collector wrongfully believing King is happy playing pretend with him.
Once they actually talk this out, they can finally resolve things.
... the only problem is that I think if King approaches Collector saying he wants to tell him something now...
Collector might just think it has to do with King getting rid of him, and things might turn for the worst.
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Luz only wanted to be understood.
She was never understood in the Human Realm. She was always too weird (read: neurodivergent) to fit in. She escaped into fantasy and fandom and imagining magical worlds where she belonged.
And she found one. And weirdos stick together. And it had to be perfect there.
But it wasn’t. She was still an outcast. She still couldn’t do magic like anyone else. And her attempts to be a witch only got people hurt. Eda was captured, the portal destroyed, Belos found the Collector and her friends ended up stuck away from their home. And so she thought that the only way to help them was to isolate herself, to torture herself, because her attempts for happiness only hurt others, so she had to be miserable and alone.
But she doesn’t. Because she never wanted people to get hurt. Because Belos would’ve used someone else anyway. Because the bonds she made were real and their lives were so much better because they had Luz the Human.
But she doesn’t realize it, and she feels so alone, and she feels like no one understands her.
The person that she’s closest to is her worst enemy. Another lost human trying to get home. Another human who hurt everyone trying to get home. Another human who will never be understood.
And here’s her mom, who clearly hates the Boiling Isles. She’s pretending she doesn’t because Luz dragged her here, it’s Luz’s fault that she’s here. It’s Luz’s fault that her wonderful mom was stuck with a hopeless daughter.
And then she realizes that Camila is just like her. She’s nerdy, she was bullied, she’s just as weird (READ: NEURODIVERGENT) as Luz. And she understands Luz, because she’s gone through everything that she has. And her friends understand her, because they’ve gone through everything that she has. The Half-A-Witch and the Family Strife and the Feeling Used and the Used by Belos and all those who are separated from their home. Luz is understood because she belongs.
And then she gets a sick-ass snakeshifter.
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tedturneriscrazy · 1 year
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Hmm...
Something about how a big part of Luz's overall arc is how averse she is to choosing between certain things, and how in her mind she feels like she has to make choices (Hexside track, staying in the human realm, her Palisman), only for it to turn out that she doesn't have to stick with one thing in any of these situations and can actually have a life full of all the possibilities and things she loves without them canceling each other out.
Also how all this is explored with a character who is neurodivergent, bisexual, and gnc...
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probablyhuntersmom · 1 year
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There hasn't been any interaction between Raeda and Hunter except pretty minor moments:
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But man oh man is there common ground now:
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I have no clue if they'll do it but it would be really rad if Eda and Hunter stand side by side in front of Philip in Watching and Dreaming, to tell him it's all over.
I want Raeda to adopt himmmm...but it's probs not happenin'..
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wixhing0nastar · 1 year
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This is such a small detail, but it stuck out to me when the episode aired and I keep getting drawn to this every time I rewatch the Belos vs Hexsquad fight but the trust that’s formed between Gus, Willow and Amity is palpable during the fight.
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During this bit when they’ve just arrived and Amity steps up to protect them, notice that neither Gus or Willow have even started to pull out their staffs while Amity’s already fully summoned hers?
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In fact...
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They don't even try...
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Until Amity has already deflected the attack... because they trusted she would.
(Also I didn't notice Willow hiding Vee behind her/protecting her until I grabbed the screenshots and I died a little inside cuz the lack of a similar reaction with Gus/Camila indicates Willow’s likely aware what confronting Belos means to Vee...)
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anthurak · 9 months
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One of the funny things I’ve recently realized after browsing old TOH posts is that the whole idea of the ‘Luz and Hunter are siblings’ dynamic feels like almost entirely a creation of the fandom. Not only that, but a dynamic that was created basically by accident.
Consider for a moment just when and WHY fans actually started the ‘Luz and Hunter are siblings’ idea: It wasn’t in the wake of King’s Tide or after Hollow Mind when Luz and Hunter start really becoming friends, it was following Hunting Palismans. AKA, the episode where the mysterious ‘Golden Guard’ is revealed to be the show’s resident ‘edgy bad-boy with a sad backstory’ named Hunter, and also established that despite what he may think at the time, him and Luz are definitely going to be friends sooner or later.
In other words, the fandom’s idea that ‘Luz and Hunter are siblings’ started mainly as pushback against shipping those two and more notably, any theories/claims that Luz and Hunter might end up together in the show. As in, right after Hunting Palismans released, you can find a ton of posts that amount to ‘THEY’RE LIKE SIBLINGS DAMMIT!’ as fans try to get ahead of any ideas people might start getting that Luz and Hunter might be some endgame couple.
Now of course, in should have been pretty clear even when Hunting Palismans released that ‘Lunter’ was NEVER going to be an actual thing in the show. Like I’ve always commended the foresight of Dana Terrace and her crew for making sure that Amity was FIRMLY locked-in as Luz’s love-interest before they let Luz anywhere near the show’s resident ‘edgy bad-boi with a sad backstory in need of a redemption-arc’.
But for me, the funny this looking back on all this in hindsight; this presenting that Luz and Hunter are going to be like siblings as pushback against any theories that they were going to end up together romantically nonetheless made the same underlying assumption about where Hunter’s character was going: 
That he’d end up being this super-close friend and ally to Luz and that she’d be the one facilitating his redemption arc, ala Aang to Zuko or any other case of ‘hero(ine) redeems rival and they become best friends’.
And of course what makes that so funny is the fact that this DIDN’T actually happen, at least not in the way most of us were expecting. Yes, Hunter did end up being A close friend and ally to Luz, but the people who he’s actually closest to and the one who really drove and facilitated his redemption arc wound up being Willow and Gus!
In conclusion, the whole idea of ‘Luz and Hunter are siblings’ dynamic feels like one of those cases of a fandom coming up with an assumption about where characters might be going, and then forgetting that they were the ones who originally came up with it while the show itself does something else.
And also, Hunter is WAY more of an older brother to GUS than he is to Luz, and frankly I think we need more recognition of that fact XD
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