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astralartefact · 5 months

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Every Mention of YoRHa:Dark Apocalypse in Encyclopedia Eorzea III I got my Lore Book; Here's the only thing I really care about

They had the chance to do the funniest thing possible and explain the Lore of Y:DA in overwhelming detail. (They did not do that.)

I only gave the book a quick once over, but here are all mentions I could find right now. If I managed to miss an important page I will add it once I gave the book a proper read.

BTW YOU FUCKED UP THEIR PORTRAITS SQUARE, ANOGG IS THE WHITE ONE!!!

To give you a comparison to other quest lines, literally every other alliance raid instance has at least one page dedicated to it. I just want Tower at Paradigm's Breach/Her Inflorescence's Concept Art is that too much to ask for q_q

Anyways, since you might want to know if this could 'mean' anything: The only new thing to me is that Anogg's entry kind of implies they aren't real Dwarves in the first place since they clarify that 'nobody knows where they came from - but recent events have revealed [redacted]'* - and combined with Reincarnation's lore drops and the fact that AnoKono look at least inspired by Devola and Popola this could imply they are actually "Clones" based on their data in the Pseudo-Seed. (And hey, look who recently had a cameo in Reincarnation, it all lines up #AnoggForReincarnation)

*in-game they were referred to as orphans, but i always took that as 'their parents are dead' and not 'nobody knows where they came from'

Also tangentially related side note, the choices on who gets an entry in this book are something. 2B isn't mentioned at all, not even in a "What a Weird Woman! We know nothing about her! Crazy!" sort of way but Ronitt's Mother who we talk to like once gets one that talks about how Ronitt likes pies. And I say that as one of the two people who is a Ronitt stan. I felt personally represented by him having a hard time with saying hello to others. But then there also doesn't seem to be an entry for Pagaga for example and now it seems kind of weird where the priorities went.

(I mean okay I'll be honest: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed. And sure I get it, you don't want to touch Yoko Taro's World too much, especially with his style of world building anything you accidentally put in there could have massive implications down the line and you don't want to step on his toes but also don't want to ask him to write something for you yada yada yada, but the lengths the writers go to to not mention Y:DA in any capacity is wild. At this point it would be easier to just treat the NieR stuff as 'a weird thing that happened to our world that nobody understands but at least we got some space-travel level technologies from it' - you know, exactly how Y:DA treats it - but No, we will not mention the burning satellite in our backyard at all costs. And now you have a massive hole in the game that the devs just don't talk about.)

#ffxiv #ff14 #yorha dark apocalypse #nier raids #nier #yoko taro #anogg #konogg

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astralartefact · 16 days

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Right, I forgot to post something about Reincarnation ending for real yesterday, so. uhh. what pseudo-deep thing do I have to say about all of this...

Reincarnation is allowed to end and its contents are allowed to be ""inaccessible""* and everyone involved in its production knew it was going to end like this from the start even if they likely thought it wouldn't end quite this abruptly.

Yesterday Matsukawa literally said on Twitter that one of the first things Yoko Taro told him was to keep all the design work they did in consistent structures so they could easily publish them afterwards, they knew, they're not as stupid and helpless to corporate greed as some of you seem to think they are.

*heavy air quotes here because it's not inaccessible, there are at least three seperate fan projects documenting its content and even all of the in-game data has been publicly archived by fans - how much more accessible do you want an online game to be after it ends???

I know we love to complain about live services because that's a buzzword to do with capitalism (which is indeed bad) but like. It being inherently impermanent isn't what makes it bad. Theater plays are inherently impermanent and I have yet to see someone complain that Theaters still perform plays seasonally and then change what they're playing. What if I couldn't see Faust 1 last year and this year they're only playing Faust 2??? i dont think faust is a theatre play

Video Game Archiving is weird because yes, there's basically no downside to keeping something accessible forever aside from cost - and yet to me it has kind of started to become a little bit like hoarding in the fear that you might need it eventually. Like sure, why not store a video game in perpetuity if you could, someone in the future might want to look back on it after all - but like. Do you really need to be able to play a video game to do that, to understand what it tried to do and how it executed on its premise?

If nobody actually liked NieR Reincarnation's gameplay - which a lot of you complaining about it ending seem dedicated to point out any chance you get - then why keep it around as a game and not just as recordings or in writing? And whose responsibility is it to record that stuff? For the most part History wasn't recorded by those that made that history happen either. History can be recorded in writing, in photographs, in paintings,... so why can Video Games only be recorded as that Video Game?

I think these discussions are important to have and it sucks that it's always undercut by "Well but Corporations should do it, especially since they only don't do it because of money" - which is perfectly true and I agree with that, just for the record - and yet even in a better societal structure than Capitalism these problems would remain. If money wasn't an issue should every person ever posting anything on the Internet have to make sure it will always remain there for people that haven't seen it yet just because they could? Taken to the next step, are you allowed to remove something from the Internet if anybody finds it some amount of impactful?

The answer is pretty easy. If you care that much about it you will just have to record it yourself somehow - like a lot of Reincarnation's fans already did. And yes, video games have an interactive component that is now lost - but so what. If that was so important then write down what it meant to you! Make art that expresses what Reincarnation made you feel! All perfectly valid ways to record and experience history!!!

I feel like some of you people haven't had the pleasure of not being able to afford a certain video game console anywhere in the foreseeable future but knowing there's a game on there that you would love and so you decide to experience it through everything but playing the game itself. That game for me was Drakengard 3 on the Playstation 3 - and it was my favorite game of all time before I actually was able to play it 7 years later. And I think that's why I'm not particularly bothered by Reincarnation being taken offline, because I know you can appreciate it and everything it had to offer without actually playing it - because in Reincarnation's case a lot of people did the actual work of making it accessible online and that includes both fans and the devs for structuring their game in a way that makes it easy to do so.

But all I see is this weird insistance that Lore will be lost and that people won't be able to understand NieR 4 because they can't play NieR 3 to catch up on the Lore anymore even though

a) that hasn't been a thing for a single Yoko Taro game. The only time that ever happened is YoRHa:Dark Apocalypse and even there it didn't actually happen, people just fully misunderstood what part of the story was the actual A Plot and blamed them not understanding that on the Lore.

b) Reincarnation has maybe a handful Elements of concrete Lore and each of them can be summarized in 2 Sentences at most - case in point Noelle's RoD crystal is now part of the official timeline.

3) Drakengard's lore has never been explained once, not even in Drakengard itself, and yet a lot of people were able to love it and/or everything following in its wake - so clearly the lore is not that important, is it?

I also can't help but point out that 10H's story is literally about how she has to rewrite stories from her own memory of them because they keep being maliciously changed and that when she loses access to them completely the first thing she does is to recreate them and then she ends up giving them to someone else to experience (which ends up being herself but aah, technically somebody else)

Anyways, something completely different as a reward for reading all of this bs: Do we think Accord is a Player Insert? Is the Player Accord recording what they're experiencing for the "greater sake of Humanity"? We're always watching the Player Characters from a Third Person View - Who's to say that's not actually Accord's First Person View?

Has Accord been here the whole time?

#nier reincarnation #yoko taro #what if i entered my fuck you got mine era #these people and their lore really make me consider it

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