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#this is all speculation on my part I have no proof they're lying it's not like I'm an expert on how long this would take
yusuke-of-valla · 3 months
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I think the devs are lying through their teeth but if fan interest really got them to add the answer then surely we can be obnoxious enough to add FeMC
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twelvedaysinaugust · 2 years
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I know larries excuse them speculating about l & h’s sexuality because fhey’re supposedly signaling but how do you excuse spreading rumors about them having dinner with someone when that is supposed to be private//
I mean it's literally not a win win situation for anyone because they're closeted. I feel like everyone has certain standards for H&L and know what they're talking about when talking about a 12 year closeted relationship.
If H&L were an open secret and we got pictures and stuff, you'd all say that it was outing someone against their will and how unethical that is. Or that it was planned because h&l are evil masterminds.
Or they could not get any pictures and just stories from people all over the internet and you'd still say "no picture no proof"
Do I think h&l have spent the last 12 years of their relationship hiding in their houses? No. Do I think they have friends and family who know that they're together but would like to keep it under the wraps? Definitely. Do I think that h&l have a social life who interact with other people presuming that these people either have signed nda's or know to keep their mouth shut because you shouldn't out people against their will? Possibly so.
Doesn't anyone ever question why most of the people around H&L always allude to Larry? I mean take Lizzo: she's connected h&l without any prompting before. When roman said "Louis styles" when no one even mentioned Harry. Kacey doing the Larry thing. Louis' opening band the other day. The girl who was louis' opening act who made statements about Louis. Bebe asking who Eleanor was. James: he's literally a larrie. You can't tell me otherwise. All these people. While some who are very close to Harry and Louis usually do it unintentionally probably because they want to protect their friends, a lot of the boy's professional connections also seem to allude to larry. Now some of these people downright do it for clout. There's no doubt. You look at the larrie fandom and they're sometimes so gullible you can't help but mess with that. But do I really believe that almost every single one of their professional friends use Larry for clout? Not really. You'd think Harry and Louis would know better by now. Especially Louis, if he's so against the Larry speculation.
I think for the most part Larry is always a debated topic. But if someone actually saw them in a romantic sense, I'd hope that no matter who you are:larrie, anti, neutral: you know to keep your mouth shut because it's not your place to reveal stuff. So naturally, most of these people come on to Tumblr and either fall down the Larry rabbit hole or send in their stories in the form of "receipts".
Again, do I believe every single Larry reciept? No.
But do I think every single Larry reciept ever, some that sound very convincing and authentic are also lying? No.
So when someone tells their Larry story. Especially in this case. The famous person told them they met Harry and Louis on a family group chat. Personally, if I met Harry and Louis, I'd also be yelling about it in my family group chat. I don't think they did it with the intention that someone would go leak it or tell on them. A fan saw their cousin telling them about Larry, freaked out, and told us. Is it cool? No. Is this the first time someone's outed Larry against their will? No. Unfortunately it happens a lot more times. Thankfully, no one except Larries seem to believe them anyway.
And the sad part is, despite years of receipts and probably genuine stories, we've been trained to not believe them because it's like "Harry and Louis wouldn't be stupid enough to hang out with this person or slip up like this" so it must not be true.
But Harry and Louis are closeted. And if Larry is real, they've been closeted for the last 12 years. Unfortunately I think time has allowed them to get good at going under the radar. It's probably more complex than any of us can comprehend. It doesn't have to be black and white. I genuinely do believe a lot of the convincing Larry reciepts pre 2018-2019 is because they were still figuring out how to do normal people things without ever being seen together. And sometimes they slipped because it's probably really hard. And maybe now, they've gotten better at it. Harry and Louis are Mia for a lot of their lives when they're not actively working. We have no idea what happens during this time. But to say that it was never real and every single receipt we've gotten over the course of 12 years is false, is kinda a bigger conspiracy.
I agree with this.
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oumakokichi · 7 years
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Hello, I asked this a long while ago but idk if Tumblr ate my ask, I missed your reply and can't find it, or if you just haven't written a response yet, but I basically asked... If the kids went through with trying to revive the dead in chapter 3, would it have worked? If so, what do you think this implies about the world they're in? Thanks for all your replies, hope this isn't too much a bother!
I think Tumblr must have eaten the ask because I can’t findit anywhere in my inbox! Thank you for sending this in, though—this is a reallyinteresting question! And it’s absolutely not a bother!
A lot of this comes down to speculation since we have nocold, hard proof of what would have happened. On the one hand, “revival of thedead” sounds pretty impossible without there being very special circumstances.This has led some people to theorize that it’s very possible the entire eventsof ndrv3 could have been set in some kind of virtual reality simulation,similar to the Neo World Program from sdr2 but different, in order to “live outthe world of Danganronpa.”
It’s a plausible theory from what we know for now—there’snothing to either solidly confirm or deny it, but the headsets we can catchglimpses of Kaede and Saihara wearing in some of their flashbacks definitely dogive off a VR vibe. If this were the case, it could very well mean that theoutside world “on the other side of fiction” in the epilogue might well referto the real world itself, where Saihara and the others will emerge but still asthemselves, embodying all the “fictional” memories and experiences they livedout in the killing game.
If this were the case, then it’s definitely possible Monokumacould have quite literally “revived” the dead with the ritual, had it actuallysucceeded. Whenever any of the students insisted that he was lying or that theentire motive had no basis, Monokuma constantly claimed that “bears don’t lie”(which is untrue since we know Monokuma and Tsumugi lie quite a lot, though)and that the motive was genuine. This could have been a bluff, but consideringthat Monokuma still maintained this opinion even during the trial, I ratherdoubt it.
However, I do think it’s also possible that the “revival”ritual would have been somewhat different from a literal revival of the dead.There is, after all, a lot of emphasis among the survivors in ndrv3 about how “eventhough everything else is a lie, our bodiesare real.” The things they lived and experienced might have been part of a “fictional”scenario but they definitely impacted the characters in a very real way, andthe pain and suffering they lived through was certainly genuine.
There is some room to doubt whether those headsets we seeKaede and Saihara wearing are genuine, too. While they could imply theexistence of a VR set-up similar to the Neo World Program, it’s just aspossible that that was a mislead intentionally planted by the remember lights.There’s nothing about these headsets being remembered in the prologue, afterall—the first time Kaede remembers wearing one is after the first rememberlight is used, once she wakes up as her in-game persona. Whenever the rememberlights get involved, it’s very difficult to tell what’s real and what’s notamong what the characters are remembering, especially when they take it all atface value early on in the game.
So rather than a literal revival of the dead, I think it’smore probable that Monokuma was intending to go about his “revival” motive byother means. The main piece of evidence which makes me think this comes fromthe end of Chapter 5, where the Monokumerz themselves “revive.” Monokuma refersto it as “recycling” them, saying he’s found a way to constantly recycle andshift through “irreplaceable lives.”
He even refers to the Monokumerz as “all new Monokumerz”very deliberately when they make their reappearance, and  emphasizes the fact that these are clearlydifferent robots from before (since all the others exploded or “died” in oneway or another) but meant to fill the same roles as last time. Monokuma alsosays that since these “all new Monokumerz” lack their memories, it’s as if they’re“completely different from who they were before.” This line is particularlyilluminating in hindsight, considering all the foreshadowing it gives towardsChapter 6 and the characters themselves.
But what catches my interestthe most is this. Monokuma flat-out states:
“They’ve got plenty of back-ups, just like you guys.Even if all of you can’t be recycled the same way theMonokumerz can…If it’s just a matter of looking for someone to participatein this killing game, then it’s fine to just go ahead and pick someone else,you see.”
This seems to imply heavily that the characters themselvescannot be actually “recycled” or “revived” in the same way that the Monokumerzcan. At least not physically, anyway. If the ndrv3 killing game were actually avirtual reality world where this kind of stunt was possible similar to the NeoWorld Program, I can’t imagine this would be the case.
Therefore, I think it’s much more likely that Monokuma ishere implying that he could simply get anyone else who likes the killing gameshow to participate in it at any given time. And if he were to give that newparticipant a remember light with memories and a backstory identical to any ofthe other deceased students—well, it would be the same as “reviving” them, in away. Like picking a different actor to play the same character in a stageproduction, it would be a way of bringing back the “fictional character” of anyof the characters without actually bringing back their physical bodies.
This is, of course, just my theory though. I feel as thoughthat scene with Monokuma and the Monokumerz is definitely the best atforeshadowing future events in the game, but also shedding light on other fuzzyparts, such as the Chapter 3 motive. If we examine those lines from Chapter 5,this definitely seems to suggest that Monokuma would be “telling the truth”about being able to bring back one of the deceased students—but also wouldexplain how he’s very much fudging that truth. As with most things in ndrv3,there’s probably truth and lies mixed up in the real explanation.
I hope I was able to provide a good explanation! This was areally fun question to theorize about, and whichever answer winds up beingcorrect, I’m really interested to see if Kodaka will confirm it in any futureside materials or sequels. Thank you so much for asking, anon!
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