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#the fall of anakin skywalker
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The part that messes with me the most about the Jedi's approach to Anakin their complaint that he was too old
If a literal child is too old for your cult, I don't know what you're doing but it is nothing good
How can you expect me to believe that things you can only learn at a young age, when you don't have enough life experience to challenge it are in anyway good
How can you expect me to believe that a healthy mental state is one that requires you to have no other mindset, and no knowledge to challenge your teaching because they Jedi don't get to leave, unless they leave for good
They genuinely have no knowledge to question their experience, is this not terrifying
How can you expect me to believe this isn't indoctrination when it requires you to be so young as to be completely impressionable and at the mercy of adults who control everything around you
You are never too old and never too damaged to get better, not in the real world, not when it comes to sustainable ways to improve your mental wellbeing
Yes it is easier if your foundation is already built but you can still build a foundation from broken rocks, it will just take more effort
But somehow Anakin was both too old and too damaged for the Jedi
Something is wrong and I don't think it was with Anakin
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intermundia · 16 days
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so apparently in the earliest drafts of phantom menace, lucas had anakin at 12 years old, but eventually knocked it down to 9, because anakin leaving his mom at 12 "is not nearly as traumatic" as it would be at 9. this separation really is a foundational trauma for the tragic character, and he needed to make it hit as hard as possible, so he found the sweet spot of bad timing for qui-gon to find anakin. it makes me think of AUs where he is both older and younger and able to handle separation and transition better, both help avoid the problem of his psychological misfit with the jedi. his age of discovery is a vital part of all the things that had to right (for sidious) and wrong (for the jedi) for darth vader to happen, like the deck was intentionally stacked against anakin's happiness from the beginning on purpose for dramatic reasons. lucas's design of the backstory for such an established villain was really an archaeology of trauma that led to such a disaster, scraping away layers of the adult psyche to see the damaged child inside. many didn't like that the movie was about a whiny kid, but it's fascinating to me that lucas wanted vader to be understood as having that child weeping inside.
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ominouspuff · 2 months
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Downtime with the disaster lineage
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mayhemspreadingguy · 4 months
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"If you stare into the abyss,
the abyss stares back at you."
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teamhangaround · 10 months
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Workplace harassment
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isagrimorie · 6 months
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Star Wars Ahsoka, 1E07 - Dreams and Madness
It's like, for the first time in many years, Ahsoka can breathe again.
Bonus:
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The box of Anakin's memories.
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131-vr · 11 months
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You should have listened to Cody, he is the voice of reason..
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queenie-official · 5 months
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Photos of Hayden that give off of Modern!Anakin in the Fall
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just gives off warm autumn vibes in my opinion (looking at these photos makes me wanna go on a coffee shop date with him), Enjoy huns Xx <3 🍂✨
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ccorthal · 6 months
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fallin in love ??? in the school pickup line ???? incredibly likely
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catladychronicles · 6 months
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I present thee Anakin the boot guardian ; protector of soles 👢
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posthumousvigor · 9 months
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The padawan haircut is the Jedi equivalent to the medieval monk's tonsure. Keeps them humble. Gotta give these beautiful young people with psychic powers and laser swords a busted ass haircut to make sure they get absolutely no play so they concentrate on their studies and training and meditation. A sort of chastity belt, if you will. The fact that Obi-Wan and Anakin both got pussy with that look was an act of the Force itself
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marveltaughtmetoread · 6 months
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I have one storytelling issue with Anakin killing the Tusken Raiders in Attack of the Clones (there is also a major issue with how the Tusken Raiders are treated throughout Star Wars especially in this scene which another creator explains better here but there is also a storytelling issue)
Anakin committing murder against the Tuskens should be treated with way more gravitas than it is
It's supposed to be the first step towards his fall to the dark side, where he gives into his anger and lets it rule him completely, to the destruction of an entire tribe, the problem is destroying an entire tribe is not a first step atrocity, it's an 'where in the endgame for his downfall now'
You can get away with more because of the setting of the story, the galaxy is wartorn, people we are supposed to see as the heroes have already had to kill to survive, making killing more acceptable, but the Jedi themselves are not supposed to kill (this isn't actually presented as an issue for other Jedi but we are told they aren't meant to kill so let's just move on) and this is because the Jedi are strong enough to end a fight without killing, so it's always a choice for them to kill, which is why it is such a big deal when Anakin is pressured to kill Count Dooku in Revenge of the Sith
This makes the Tusken Raiders massacre something worthy of a lot of Gravitas, not only has Anakin chosen to kill, he has chosen to slaughter everyone "the women and children too", it is a massacre and there should be no way to move past it
But the story doesn't treat it like that, the story treats it as if he had just made a slight slip, something he can come back from, immediately we get Padme silently hugging him, which humanises him and also implies that it's not that bad because Padme is shown to be quite a moral and upstanding character, and then the event is never mentioned again
Let me repeat, the massacring of an entire community is brushed past by the story
And then the next movie we see Anakin struggling with murdering Count Dooku, this doesn't work, sure Count Dooku hasn't killed someone as personal to him as his mother but Count Dooku is also someone who has been a thorn in Anakin's side for two entire movies, killing the Tuskens should have made him more willing to kill the Count so why has he become more moral rather than less
Killing the Tuskens wasn't a slip to the Dark Side it was a jump across a cavern he should never have been able to come back from but it's treated like a slip and it makes the story infuriating
Genocide against the Tusken Raiders happened way too early in the story for it to make sense considering how the story treats it, genocide is not something you can come back from but the story wants you to believe he can and then acts like the genocide of the Jedi is so much worse, no, he's already done it, yeah the Tuskens made it believable but the discrepancy in the treatment of the two genocides makes the story infuriating, it's genocide other way, why is only the Jedi's massacre treated as such
And Anakin didn't have to massacre an entire village to show he was slipping, we had already established that the Jedi are not allowed to kill and more importantly, the Jedi are not supposed to give into their emotions, him killing a person in anger should have been enough, him killing maybe two people in anger would have been enough but massacring an entire village should have been a 'he's never coming back, he has completely fallen to the dark side' moment like when he did it to the Jedi
And it just doesn't work, the only thing I can think of for why this scene exists in the form it does is poor storytelling, George Lucas didn't have a plan so he had the impactful scene of Anakin massacring a Tusken community and then low key retconned it in the next movie because he still had another movie to flesh out Anakin's fall, and it does also feel racist that the Tuskens who are based on non-white indigenous communities have their genocide treated so lightly when compared to the genocide of the Jedi
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intermundia · 9 months
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i think the reason that i find the tragedy of the prequels so compelling is that anakin is such a good tragic hero. he's shown to be an intelligent man with a mature understanding of the world, who made catastrophic choices on purpose because they were easier and more personally satisfying to him. when fans deny him that agency, i believe they misunderstand the story in important ways. one can say that he was manipulated and deceived, one can diagnose him with every mental illness in the DSM (and people in my notes often do), but one cannot say that he wasn't fast to toss aside his moral values to lash out and to get what he wanted.
the fact of the narrative is that anakin knew better, and he chose the easy option (with full knowledge that it was 'wrong'), because he refused to accept core limitations of reality, namely the inevitability of death. he thought that having special powers meant the rules didn't apply to him and those he loved, and that's how he ended up killing kids and serving as a fascist enforcer for decades. one can contort themselves into knots to try to excuse that, and there were indeed many contextual forces that gave him so much power in the first place, but there is no real excuse for what he chose to do with that power.
without anakin being that kind of moral agent, there is no tragedy. tragedy in an aristotelean sense is a narrative designed to elicit feelings of pity and fear, because we the audience know that we too are doomed to suffer and all too readily make easy, bad choices to avoid pain. none of us want to accept that some parts of life include losing, and require sacrifice. anakin's greed was his undoing, as it is all to often our own. refusing to accept that the tragedy of the prequels, explaining away and excusing the fall of the hero, means protecting ourselves from accepting the painful truth that we are just like him, and can and do make the same kind of mistakes.
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bbygirl-obi · 9 months
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shmi skywalker adhered to the jedi code more than anakin ever did
okay that's a very clickbaity title but i was rewatching the phantom menace and i found it so interesting that shmi actually demonstrated non-attachment and adhered to the jedi code with regards to anakin two different times during her brief screentime! i think it's important to emphasize this because shmi was anakin's only parent and primary influence during the early stages of his life. anakin's tendency towards attachment is not a result of shmi's parenting- it's despite it. so let's go through it!
the first instance of shmi's non-attachment occurs when she is presented with the notion of anakin racing on boonta eve in order to help qui-gon and padme. she explicitly says she thinks the racing is "awful" and tells anakin, "i don't want you to race." but she sets her own feelings aside- she lets go of her fear about anakin and prioritizes the greater good. the greater good, in this case, is padme and qui-gon's mission, and its implications for naboo.
shmi recognizes that her fear is not more important than an entire planet: "i may not like it, but he can help you... he was meant to help you," she says. there are also implications that she is listening to the will of the force here, and that she understands this is what anakin was meant to do.
the second instance of her non-attachment occurs when anakin is freed and she is not. she is the one who requests that qui-gon take anakin with him to coruscant to become a jedi. though she is clearly sad to part ways with him, lamenting to qui-gon that "he was in my life for such a short time," she still encourages anakin to go.
here, shmi recognizes that her desire to keep anakin near her is not more important than what is best for anakin. i've written a post here about the fact that shmi struggles to understand anakin's unique status with regards to the force, and that she turns to qui-gon and the jedi for help. shmi knows the jedi can help anakin grow this special part of him that she "can't explain" herself. she also knows that doing this will make anakin happy: she tells anakin that going with qui-gon is a chance to "make your dreams come true."
and she even drops a little nugget of wisdom, straight out of the jedi code, onto anakin. wisdom that anakin will later reject from the mouths of people like obi-wan and yoda, even though it is the exact same thing shmi believes, the exact same thing shmi is shown to have taught him. "you can't stop change, any more than you can stop the suns from setting," she tells anakin. "it is time for you to let go... to let go of me."
it's not a coincidence that shmi's screen time in the phantom menace is exclusively spent adhering to the jedi tenets of love without attachment. shmi is human, and she feels love just as anyone else. she feels scared when anakin is in danger, and she feels sad at the idea of not having him near. but she does not allow this to take precedent over the greater good, whether that is for the planet of naboo or for anakin himself.
that is non-attachment. it is letting go of someone- not because you don't love them, but because you do. and shmi skywalker is the very embodiment of it. when anakin rejects obi-wan's advice about letting go, when he refuses yoda's advice that death is inevitable, he is not just rejecting the jedi's philosophies. he is rejecting shmi's values as well. the further he sinks into attachment, the further he is forsaking his own mother's memory. that's the tragedy.
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mayhemspreadingguy · 5 months
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A gift for my beloved @magnusbae ( ˘͈ ᵕ ˘͈♡).
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lightasthesun · 2 years
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POV: Order 66 never happened, Anakin didn't turn to the Dark Side and Ahsoka ended up rejoining the order a couple of months after the war ended. Now years later they still like to enjoy each other's company as often as possible.
Magic happens when @ahhrenata and I brainstorm. And with that I mean Lauren does Magic. 🥰
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