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THE ADDAMS FAMILY VALUES (1993) dir. Barry Sonnenfeld
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snow-bees · 7 months
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MAMA I WANT TO SEE BLOOD
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classic Christina Ricci
Happy Thanksgiving!
The Addams Family / The Ice Storm
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mmelolabelle · 9 months
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a 100% accurate depiction of Alicent and Daemon in 1x08
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ohsofightclub · 3 days
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the addams family (1991)
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notdayle · 1 year
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You know what actually... Halloween belongs to her...
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Gomez and Morticia | But Make It Purple
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a-humble-bagel · 1 year
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i could be wrong, but i’m pretty sure that “Wednesday” is the first form of The Addams Family that isn’t satire (I haven’t seen the 2019 and 2021 movies and idk if I ever will).
This just leads to some interesting new perspectives because now a lot of people are trying to rationalize/moralize some of Wednesday’s actions which is interesting because no one’s ever had to do that before. 
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I think the lack of satire also makes some of the Addams’ actions in the show a little confusing, like how they seem to love all things dark and murderous but then when Gomez gets accused of murder they act as though it’s a terrible thing (I know this can be rationalized by saying that they were scared of the consequences he’d face, but honestly it would’ve been nice if it didn’t have to be rationalized in the first place). 
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The thing with satire is that their actions never had to be rationalized because it was funny. Sure, it was dark humour, but you could tell that it was a joke. It was obvious that the point of those dark jokes was to entertain, and those weren’t the morals the story was preaching. Take this scene in “The Addams Family Values” for example where Wednesday sets Amanda on fire: 
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It’s obvious that the movie isn’t telling you “set the people who bully you on fire”, because it’s obviously satire. To find the actual message, you have to look deeper into the dark campiness to find the heart of what the story is about. Satires are exaggerations of real life problems, and The Addams Family looks at the flaws within the “ideal American family”. This scene is telling the audience to stand up to bullies, that adults can be blind and part of the problem, not to bully outcasts/people who seem weird, that history is often sanitized, and that colonialism is bad. It’s also a badass moment that feels great because Wednesday and the other “weird” kids are finally getting revenge on a bunch of rude and horrible people.
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Now compare that to the scene in “Wednesday” where Wednesday tortures Tyler. True, the scenes take place in very different contexts. Tyler is someone who has physically hurt people, including Wednesday’s friend, so it’s more personal. In this scene, it isn’t just justice she’s after, it’s cold-hearted vengeance (that may be mixed with some feelings of being hurt).. With Amanda, it’s more lighthearted as Amanda never killed anyone. Nevertheless, in both scenes, Wednesday gets violent revenge on someone who’s wronged her, but the message in the TV show is that torture is bad. The Nightshades turn their backs on Wednesday, and she faces consequences for her actions. And that brings me to my next point: consequences.
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In “Wednesday”, The Addams family has to face actual legal consequences. In the 90s movies, they only had to face social consequences. Even though they did all those horrifying terrible things, the only repercussions they got were disdain and annoyance from the other characters, which isn’t much of a repercussion. Even in “The Addams Family” when Tully throws them out of their house, the police are never involved, and the thought of the Addams’ going to jail doesn’t even cross the audience’s mind. This is partly what allows them to wholeheartedly engage in macabre and murderous things: the narrative doesn’t punish them for it, and they never face serious consequences. 
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After all, if the Addams’ in the 90s movies faced serious consequences, the narrative wouldn’t go anywhere. If the storyline allowed the Addams’ to be arrested, then the judge at the start likely would’ve called the police when Gomez kept hitting golf balls through his window. Gomez would’ve been arrested, and the story couldn’t progress. As a satire, the 90s movies require there to be a lack of police in order to convey the messages of the films. That way, the Addams’ can do all of their usual spooky and dangerous things, which convey the deeper lessons of the story. However, “Wednesday” took away the satire and added in the police.
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From the start, the Addams’ are treated as not “ordinary” people, but they no longer exist outside of the law. This is shown in the very first episode, when Wednesday puts the piranhas in the pool. Morticia later mentions that “the boy’s father wanted to press attempted murder charges”. That is a huge difference from the 90s movies. If this was a scene in one of the 90s movies, Wednesday likely would’ve still been expelled, but it would’ve been something she was smugly satisfied about, and there would be no the threat of legal actions. 
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In other words, the previous versions of The Addams Family were all treated as satire characters, which allowed them to get away with things that they wouldn’t be able to do in the real world (playing with death/dangerous activities/torture) without the narrative punishing them for it, and without them facing real consequences. Satires require exaggeration, so extremes had to be allowed. However, “Wednesday” treated The Addams’ as regular characters, and had them face consequences like being arrested and jail. This makes it feel like they’re all bark and no bite: it seems like they talk about death and violence but deep down, they abhor it.
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This is what made Gomez’s arrest seem somewhat contradictory. The Addams talk so much about how they love death, so why did Wednesday and Morticia have to go to such lengths to prove that he didn’t kill anyone? And Wednesday’s comment at the end of the episode about how she knows Gomez couldn’t really kill anyone just reinforces the idea that the Addams’ are all bark and no bite.
 Besides, whether or not the Addams’ themselves actually disapproved of Gomez murdering someone, the narrative disapproved of it. The story punishes Gomez for potentially being a murderer, just like it punishes Wednesday for torturing Tyler. Since the Addams’ aren’t satire characters in this interpretation, it can’t allow them to go to the same extremes as satire characters, it has to punish them, otherwise it would convey the message “torture and murder are good”.
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This isn’t a criticization of how the show interpreted the Addams’, it’s just a neat thing I started thinking about and then decided to write out. 
tldr: The Addams’ aren’t satire in “Wednesday”, so while they still have the same values/talk the same way as their 90s movie counterparts, the narrative has to have them face serious consequences so it doesn’t convey the wrong message.
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Happy 44th birthday to Christina Ricci
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moonsiechild · 4 months
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The Addams Family was truly ahead of its time. It berates Thanksgiving, demonizes white supremacy, said "go monster-fuckers!" and supports interspecies relationships, and Fester wanted to a pastel wife and wanted to be someone's goth husband
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I think Yor would have expected "homicide".
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caitlynskitten · 5 months
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Merging the franchises here.
That’s how Wednesday reacts to Enid and Yoko’s past fling.
How would Enid react when she finds out about Joel Glicker? I like to imagine Enid is quite proud of the fact that she’s the one Wednesday ‘I’ll never love anyone’ Addams fell for. So how does she react when she finds out she’s not Wednesday’s first romance, Joel is?
Okay so I watched the Addams family value only once but like they were never together right? I mean Joel liked Wednesday but Wednesday doesn’t 💀 Also doesn’t he DIE?!
In my mind Joel and Wednesday were never a thing. Joel might’ve had a crush on her but Wednesday would rather DIE than go out with a boy. I think Enid wouldn’t be surprised that Joel liked her. I think she’d be surprised that Wednesday killed him. But that’s Wednesday’s love language isn’t it? Killing for her partner?
ALSO I JUST FOUND OUT THAT JOELS ACTOR IS FUCKING BERNARD IN THE SANTA CLAUSE MOVIES 💀💀💀
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weaponizedmoth · 1 year
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Debbie and Fester's wonderful love.
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laudthesilence · 1 year
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mask131 · 1 year
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The evolution of Wednesday Addams (3)
And now we reach the iconic Wednesday Addams, the one that everybody knows and the love, the one that actually supplanted earlier incarnations in people’s minds: the 90s Wednesday, the Christina Ricci Wednesday. 
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The main difference between this incarnation and the previous one is that the cheerfulness and the innocence of the “childish” Wednesday is gone. Despite being eleven years old in the first movie, Wednesday is here reimagined as a bitter, cold and cynic little girl who is always serious under all circumstances (and when she gets 13 in the Addams Family Values, it gets worse). In fact, it is quite interesting to see that while everybody remembers Wednesday as a “stoic, ruthless, clinical child who never raises their voice”, there is actually a difference between Wednesday’s behavior in the two movies. In the first movie, while she had a gloom, grim and unusually adult look at everything, she actually still showed childhood and “girlish” behaviours from time to time (she still carried her headless doll around and slept with her - a nod to Marie-Antoinette from the 60s ; she softened a lot as she struck a new friendship with Uncle Fester ; and we even actually hear her LAUGH! Yes laugh, as she stands outside with Pugsley, holding an antenna during a thunderstorm). But by the sequel, The Addams Family Values, the hardness, sarcastic and emotionless nature of Wednesday was exaggerated to the point she actually cannot even smile - it is not a natural thing for her to do. But again, given in the sequel she is a teenager, not a kid anymore, it might explain why she looks even sterner and joyless. 
Due to the more violent and darker nature of the movies, Wednesday also gets augmented with a use dose of sadism and brutality. In particular due to us now seeing the deadly “games” the two Addams children try to “play” with each other, a sort of brutal competition to kill or harm each other - and unlike in the original cartoons, here Wednesday gets the upper hand! She ties Pugsley up with an apple in his mouth to practice her arrow-shooting, she convinces him to be strapped to an electric chair - we have a true inversion of the original dynamic where Pugsley was more of the “big brother bully” to the “little sister victim” Wednesday. But just like in the original cartoons, the two seem to maintain a good relationship nonetheless (in fact Pugsley does get the upper hand on Wednesday at one point in the first movie), and the minute a new child arrives in the family (Pubert), Wednesday focuses all her destructive efforts on him rather than Pugsley, who just becomes her accomplice and sidekick. In fact, Wednesday is the “leading” child of the Addams, truly assuming a position of “big sister” not only by being the more intelligent and pragmatic one, and treating Pugsley like a younger child, but also by clearly being the origin of all the “games” and “ideas” - for example she is the one who convinces Pugsley Pubert needs to die due to an old tradition.
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 Even though it should be noted that, even in her attempts at killing Pubert, Wednesday still wishes to make it a “game”. Her throwing the baby out of the tower becomes an experience to see if he will bounce back unlike a canon-ball, and her attempt at beheading him becomes basically a doll-reconstitution of the French Revolution. This ties with another recurring aspect of her character also illustrated here: her fascination for the macabre. She is explained to study the Bermuda Triangle and its mysteries ; her personal hero is her great-aunt Calpurnia who was a witch condemned to die at the stake ; and when she has to put on a play for a talent show at her school it is a true blood-shower...
Wednesday, throughout the course of the two movies, is... a really ambiguous and ambivalent character. For example on one side she is shown to be asocial and antipathic towards “regular” children (well by regular understand the “cute, sugary sweet traditional 90s American kid”), but on the other she has enough understanding of the psychology and nature of the privileged, vain, bratty girls of camp Chippewa to craft a ghost story specifically design to scare them. She personally wishes to destroy her little brother Pubert, much to the dislike of her parents, BUT she doesn’t stand it when Debby calls it a brat and shows yet a protective side of her towards outsiders. And while she sometimes sports the moral high ground (most notable: the Camp Chippewa play, that she hijacked to denounce the historical inaccuracy, blatant racism and historical/social injustice carried on by such works), other times she just seems like a true little sociopath (most notable, from the same movie as the earlier example: she is an animal abuser that buried a cat alive to “play funerals”). 
Hell, this ambivalence and ambiguity between a “heroic” Wednesday and a “monstrous” Wednesday is even furthered by a forced rewrite in the Addams Family Values: it was planned originally for Wednesday, during her attack on Camp Chippewa, to actually REALLY kill people: Amanda was supposed to really be burned at the stake. But due to the producers insisting (if my memory recalls well), a scene showing her still alive in a plane was added later - which by extend seems to “soften” Wednesday character, when originally she was planned to be a full-blown killer child. 
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Speaking of ambiguities the second movie introduces another one due to her relationship with Joel Glicker. At Camp Chippewa she meets this introvert, nerdy, awkward boy that doesn’t fit with the rest of the camp, clearly has a crush on her, and seems to share some of the Addams morbid tendencies (from a dislike of Disney movies to a passion for a serial killer trading-card game). As they get “partner in crimes” to survive and escape the camp, a sort of budding romance seems to bloom between the two, ranging from Wednesday inviting Joel to her uncle’s wedding, to them finally sharing a kiss. However at the end of the movie a very bizarre scene plays out... As the two kids stroll in the graveyard, they speak of the future, and Wednesday expresses her disinterest for wedding and children, and how she would pity any man who wishes to be her eternal slave. As they stop by Debby’s grave, she points out how “sloppy” she was and pretends she would have been a better husband-killer than her. And as Joel asks her how, she explains she would kill her husband in the most efficient way... for example by scaring him to death. And quickly a hand grabs out Joel from Debby’s grave, prompting him to scream in panic, and as he howls in terror Wednesday just looks, smiling. 
This scene still leads to a lot of debates... It is clear that Wednesday planned it all - because a constant of the movie is that Wednesday is a cunning long-time planner. She pulled a massive infiltration job on Camp Chippewa by pretending to be one of them ; and earlier in the first Addams Family movie she was here to bury the bodies of the villains - doesn’t matter if they were alive or not, graves were already prepared for them. And the question at the end of the sequel would be: did Wednesday intend (or managed) to actually kill Joel? Already when someone mistook her for being at the age where a girl “only thinks about boys”, she corrected “homicide”. As a result did she really felt love for Joel, or was she actually in love with the idea of finding a perfect homicide victim? We know that one of the reasons she got closer and more interested in Joel is notably because of all the serious sicknesses and allergies he had, some fully lethal (which are apparently a turn-on for Wednesday). 
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And even if we look into the original script for the movie we don’t have any clear solution at the Joel problem. Because on one side the script clearly shows that Wednesday is actually sensible and affected by Joel - most notably the script highlights that when he gives her Amanda’s retainer before leaving the camp, she is “very touched” which promptly leads to their kissing. But the reason why the script truly can’t solve the Joel mystery... IS BECAUSE THIS SCENE DOESN’T EXIST IN THE SCRIPT! The scene of Wednesday frightening Joel is not in the script, which just ends with everyone celebrating Pubert’s birthday. The same way Wednesday was supposed to kill Amanda, Joel was apparently supposed to become the official boyfriend of Wednesday - but somehow during the production those two things got reversed.
Another slight change in design for Wednesday, that becomes more apparant as we go further and further into the movies, is how she is a bit more... “girlish” in appearance. Not only due to her black dress actually getting patterns - even a floral pattern! But also due to her being seen wearing nail-polish, preferably red like her mother’s. 
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dyingroses · 1 year
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