JOE HILLS: Hey, what’s that thing that has “be the change you want to see in the world”? I think that’s just Ghandi.
CLEO: Yeah, that is just-
JOE HILLS: Boom! Low budget spoof.
CLEO: (laughing) Ohh, Joe!
XISUMA: That’s like that Michael Jackson song. “If you wanna make the world a better place… take a look at yourself, and make a change.”
CLEO: Man in the Mirror.
CLEO: I think- I think we may have gone out of our key demographic there.
XISUMA: Yeah, I was- I was watching-
JOE HILLS: (overlapping) I don’t know, Michael Jackson was a real Thriller.
CLEO: (groaning) Ohhh, Joe!
XISUMA: I was- I was watching a- uh, video by- I think it was Guude and BDoubleO- and, those guys love Michael Jackson.
XISUMA: And I sort of read the comments a bit… and noticed that there is a real generational gap there.
XISUMA: And it’s-
CLEO: It’s ridiculous.
XISUMA: It’s quite scary… kind of.
CLEO: Yeah, I think- I mean... At school, you can make references and just- just… be completely oblivious. Quite scary how- how fast…
JOE HILLS: Don’t worry, TV Tropes-
XISUMA: Well- (inaudible)
JOE HILLS: TV Tropes will remember forever.
CLEO: That’s partly what scares me.
XISUMA: He was- he was the biggest selling artist of all time, like- no one’s overtaken him. Very likely, no one ever will. And… uh, I don’t think, like- every time he was on, I don’t think these kids don’t see the kind of impact he had on the world with his music, and… now- now, do you know what I mean?
CLEO: I do. I do, and- and-
XISUMA: (overlapping) It’s time to move on, innit?
CLEO: (overlapping) -see it on a regular basis. It’s- can be quite. It makes you feel old.
JOE HILLS: See, I’m okay with it, because it gives the kids room in their lives to enjoy what we make. Like, if a kid was like, “I gotta listen to every best selling album ever constructed-”
JOE HILLS: “-since 1920, I’m gonna start with this swing, move into this jazz, there’s a little bit of blues here. Okay, now I’m catching up to the 40’s and 50’s- oh hey! Buddy Holly doesn’t have- uh, one of those cool synthesizers yet, so he’s using one of those, so he’s using a xylophone for one of the synthesizer part of the song- that’s kind of neat!” And then, y’know, by the time they’re dead, they’re like, “Oh, maybe I’ll watch a video by ZombieCleo.”
XISUMA and CLEO laugh.
CLEO: You’re not like-
JOE HILLS: I’m okay with this! We directly benefit from these kids not having time to know who The Beatles are.
JOE HILLS: I mean, they- they might be The Bee-attles, I don’t know! Maybe I’m pronouncing it wrong!
XISUMA: That’s so very true. Very true.
CLEO: Oh, Joe... Joe… positive spin on everything!
JOE HILLS: Well, no- I mean, if it benefits me, then I can spin it positively. Otherwise, y’know, it’s terrible.