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#ok it took me a long while to get around to post this for multiple reasons so whatever#alt caption: the threads that bind us#click for quality please!!!!! i never say that but ik it looks like shit on mobile#hollow knight#hornet#the hollow knight#ghost#fan art#id in alt text#okay so i'd love to know what ppl make of the caption#bc i had something in mind but when i asked some friends i got a different responses#hornet killing the vessels as her duty but she sees it as maybe mercy killing bc she pitys their fate#so she's saying it to that vessel#and then thk saying it to ghost by way of their self impalement (orz)#and ALSO. ghost to thk: helping kill the broken vessel either to take their place or end the radiance whichever ending#and my friend thought of hornet to ghost because of her needle coming in#and then a bit of a stretch and kinda meta but hornet by killing that vessel allows ghost to get the mothwing cloak lol#hk spoilers#<HELP
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dio!
#unicorn god#oc#my art#freak who fell in love with her vessel#and then got jealous when her vessel got married to a vampire so she took over and banished her to the shadow realm#there cannot be an ame story without possession its not possible#guess u could say. im a one trick pony#get it. like pony. unicorn. unicorn pony. one trick (my voice fades away as i am dragged out of the room)
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Saw your post about Andre
What do u think about Zoe, then?
As a character, she's not bringing anything worth getting excited about. Personality wise, she's just Marinette-Pre-Origins: sweet and eager for friends, but ultimately letting her fear of Chloe rule her behavior until someone else reaches out, and now she suddenly has a spine. And I'm all for the idea of Marinette taking the lessons she learned in Origins about standing up for herself and not sitting by and letting injustices happen, and then turning around and inspiring someone else to do the same, so on paper, Marinette being that person for Zoe would be sweet and make sense. Except we have a full class of kids that she could've and should've already been that inspiration for, so this feel very Too Little Too Late.
And the few things they did to try and make Zoe unique didn't have enough thought or effort put into them so they fall flat.
So she got bullied out of her old school because she "was playing a part; being someone else" and when she dropped the act, "everyone turned against me". Um, yeah, if I found out my friend who'd I'd been confiding in and getting close to lied and faked their entire personality, I wouldn't want to be friends with them anymore either. I wouldn't go so far as to put cockroaches in their locker, but I can't blame Zoe's old "friends" for feeling betrayed.
(And let's be real, the writers definitely HAD to throw in the cockroaches thing so that Zoe actually had examples of being bullied instead of "no one wanted to be my friend anymore when they found out I was a totally different person")
So she's an actress, putting on different faces to please the people around her (clearly, she learned nothing from her previous experience - it's reasonable that people didn't like you because you lied, not because they didn't like who you really are). But then they didn't even keep up this 'acting' thing for more than one episode! Sure, she dusts it off in "Gabriel Agreste", but that entire aspect of Zoe's story is resolved as soon as it's introduced.
(Though it's obvious that the show is trying to convince you that her old friends DID turn on her JUST because they didn't like her as a goody-two shoes nice girl).
With Zoe putting on a fake persona, there could've been intrigue over the episode, or even the season, about who Zoe really is. Like, Marinette is SURE that Zoe is faking being like Chloe, but she has no way to know Zoe wasn't faking being nice to her when they first met. Why not show Zoe putting on different personas than just those two? Have Zoe interact with Juleka by being low energy and stand offish, then swapping to bubbly and energetic around Rose? Have Marinette be confused and that becomes part of the Mystery of Zoe?
And how about that contrivance, that Marinette met "nice" Zoe first and so is SOOOOO sure that Zoe is faking being "mean"? And because Marinette declares this To Be So, all of her friends just believe Marinette and are willing to give Zoe a chance. (despite not believing her about other things *cough* Lila *cough*) This is the same Marinette who's canonically declared her hatred of "liars" more than once, so even if Zoe is only "pretending" to be mean, why is Marinette giving her a pass? I'll tell you why - because we need to seamlessly integrate Zoe into the main friend group so we can speed run her taking over as the new Bee.
Because that's the main problem with Zoe - it's so blatantly obvious what the writers are trying to get out of her, because they don't even TRY to hide it. Don't get it twisted, I don't care that Zoe is brought in to replace Queen Bee, Queen Bee deserves to be replaced. I care how Zoe was brought in to replace Queen Bee. If the writers had taken enough time and care to ACTUALLY seamlessly integrate Zoe, instead of just shoving her in and bending the characters to accept her with no hesitation, then Zoe wouldn't come across as such a Mary Sue-Diet Marinette.
We already have a pretty full cast, so making the audience care about this new character that they've neither hinted at or bothered to build up to in Season 4 was already a big ask. Which is why I believe they should've stretched her "faking personas" story over several episodes. Have Marinette be as wary about Zoe as she was about Lila, esPECIALLY since she's Chloe's sister, but then have Zoe showcase her range of "personas" to throw Marinette off guard. Then you can have scenes of Zoe's mask slipping, like small acts of heroism where there's no time to think: pulling someone out of the way of an akuma attack, distracting the akuma if it gets too close to Ladybug, or even using her acting to help someone else get out of trouble despite Zoe getting nothing in return. Show the REAL Zoe through her actions DESPITE her acting, which then justifies Marinette being sure that "mean" Zoe isn't the real one.
Could've even had Chloe notice that Zoe's slipping and isn't acting very much "like a Bourgeois" and make it CHLOE who digs up that Zoe was bullied, make it CHLOE who airs out all the things that were done to Zoe. I mean, who better to call out a poser than Chloe? Especially since the rest of the class would more willing to take Zoe's side against Chloe (you would think) and it helps with the whole Zoe vs Chloe thing with the Bee Miraculous. Plus, having that information aired out when Zoe didn't want it to could've been a better reason to be akumatized than just "I'm giving in to playing the role I was already determined to play and putting my shoes in this hole with my dreams." Just saying.
But they didn't want to take the time. They didn't want to try. They didn't want to put in the effort to make Zoe someone to care about, both for the audience and for the characters. They shoved her in, gave her an exposition dump, and suddenly everyone was totally cool with her, No Questions Asked. In fairness, they didn't actually have Zoe be mean to anyone other than Marinette One Time in front of Chloe, so there wasn't much to overcome. But that's just another check in the "wow, you didn't even try" column.
I can't bring myself to care about Zoe because she's just a tool. She was brought in with the sole purpose of putting in nearly no effort to become friends with everyone and use the Bee Miraculous, as quickly as possible and as effortlessly as possible. Never mind that such a thing probably should have been earned. I just hate it when I can see the writer's intentions so blatantly.
But I get it, the Bee Miraculous is seriously OP and it'd be a shame not to use it just because Queen Bee was benched. Too bad Ladybug can't just merge Miraculouses and use it hersel- ohhhh, wait.
#it doesn't escape my notice that Vesperia seems to have more screen time than Zoe just saying#she's a tool she's a vessel so they can just use 'Venom' without having to bring in Queen Bee#WHO SHOULDN'T BE BROUGHT IN SO I'M NOT MAD ABOUT THAT PART#it's just like...try? Could they have tried?#Also it could've been a good way to confront Marinette's hatred of 'liars' to have Zoe pull off the 'Lila' thing#but doing so in order to protect herself instead of to gain favors and praise#zoe salt#writing salt#ml salt#my opinion#an essay by zoe
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male socialization is wild to me because when men deviate it by generally being nice to women and then get womens attention by being friendly and normal to us other men get mad and punish them for it bc they're actually meant to be domineering, rude, and misogynistic to us and if a man doesn't do that they're either gay or trying to unassumingly get with one of the women. like it blows mens minds that they can actually try and be normal and nice to women for no sexual gain, and then they punish men for deviating from it. they're like we see you're getting female attention without abusing the women?? thats wrong and also we hate u for it. like jesus men are so fucked up as a whole.
#witnessed this in my class group#two of the more 'manly' men were saying shit about one of the guys and its like#i obviously know this is common but as a girl who grew up w male friends who were always seen as gay for preferring female company#seeing it repeated in the world always still catches me off guard#like you'd think logically for het men especially maybe being nice to women would get u farther#but male socialization and the patriarchy are so insane#to be nice to a woman is to acknowledge she is human and not just a sex vessel#so when they see other men treating us like humans they get both mad and probably jealous idk what goes on in their heads but its wild
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really fucking sick and tired of people who really fucking love the eddie book jumping on people who don't like or are even remotely critical of it's posts and like crusading their opinions around from the top of their high horses and shoving it down our throats.
if you like the book, great! that's awesome! love that for you! i am genuinely glad that you were able to find good in it and enjoy it!!
but not everyone did, and not everyone is going to agree with you. so, instead of going on some grand crusade where you find every single post that includes anything even remotely negative or negative adjacent or even neutrally critical and spending ALL this time and effort trying to provide unwanted rebuttals to every single thing, maybe you should just stay in your lane and find people who DO like the book and chat about it with them.
because i can PROMISE YOU, none of us appreciate it when you come onto our posts and start accusing us of "hating on" the author or "being rude" about her and her work and RIDICULOUS shit like that.
being critical of something and pointing out it's flaws is NOT inherently hating on it. i, frankly, do not know where people got that notion, but it's not fucking true so can we fucking quit assuming it is? and, critiquing something is also NOT the same as saying this is shit and it sucks and the author is a piece of garbage. again, where the fuck that came from is beyond me. you can be critical of something and still enjoy it. as soooo many of you love to point out, it's not perfect, why should it be perfect? so D U H. of course that means criticism can and should arise???
also. hot take (by which i mean ice fucking cold because it's NOT a fucking hot take), but going around toting FALSE facts as part of your "defense" does not make you or your argument look good. you, like the author, should maybe do a basic fact check first. 🙃
tldr, if you like the book, that's genuinely great, but stay in your fucking lane and stop seeking out posts from people who didn't like it to start shit in the notes.
#flight of icarus#stranger things#this has happened to me and to so many of my friends and im fucking SICK of it#i didn't even hate the book either!! i thought it was just okay#and yet i STILL get all these book lovers jumping down my throat about things i say about the book#things that - HONESTLY are not even like that scathing!!!!!#like god damn all im asking for is a little BASIC effort from the author and they all think thats me asking for her head on a platter#its NOT#i have no problem with the author#she's whatever to me honestly just a vessel through which the book was given to us#ALSO she is some nebulous blob way outside my orbit. AS IN any critiques i have of her and her work are NOT direct assaults on her???#like i dont fucking KNOW her#im not saying any of this to her face#she is a published writer she should KNOW the risks she is taking when she publishes her writing#not everyone is going to like it! there are going to be people who are critical of it! there are going to be people who hate it!#critiques and pointing out mistakes and wishing for things to have been different is not a fucking direct attack#those things are actually pretty fucking common responses to ANYTHING#and a lot of times theyre actually meant as useful helpful things geared towards improvement and not something to tear someone down with#some people on the internet need to go touch grass and learn how to CRITICALLY THINK again#the world is not as black and white as you think#n e ways. rant over. if you stuck around through all of that kudos to you. i am just. at the end of my rope with this bullshit.
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Alright I told someone I would give propaganda for these two so here we go. As a warning, I didn't play mobile or Re-Mind soooooooo. Yeah there's that. I know they're apparently involved in past stuff but shhh.
So first off, everyone's weapon is super useful! Except theirs. Which I always thought was really funny? Even in Re:CoM Zexion's book was more direct than these two. I really enjoyed them just as the most indirect fighters? And figured they'd be pretty chill and after playing KH2 as a kid I'm like. I think Luxord would be most tolerable to music while vibing. He could play Solitaire or something while Demyx played music and possibly chatted. Therefore, my younger self was like "it's perfect".
ALSO CONSIDERING THEIR NUMBERS! And the line in KH3 during the scene where Demyx is like "yup I got benched", they've probably got a history. However, the number they get originally is supposed to be the order they joined. So with Marluxia and Larxene obviously tied together in the past, all I can think of is these two just being absolute bums wandering around pre-Organization and just hitch hiking their way into a cult. Which is also REALLY funny to me because what if they joined at the same time but Demyx got to be IX and Luxord is X.
Demyx would hold his rank over his head for the dumbest stuff (in my head canons of the past).
Like there's so many things we specifically do not know about these two so basically, until I'm proven absolutely incorrect in game (which might have happened and I just don't know) ! I think they'd be a good match.
And I mean, it's also just (gestures) LOOK AT HOW CUTE THEY ARE. Great designs and I think that's good enough for me!
#kingdom hearts#demyx#luxord#i really just looked at these losers when i played kh2 on ps2 and was like wow they should kiss#and now im many years older and i am still like wow they should kiss#also i was telling my sister i was trying to come up with propaganda doodles and im like#yeah its two guys what more would the kh fandom need ya know#and she looks at me and goes did you really just say they're two guys thats enough#and i was ??? YEAH?????? FOR KH? theres like ten girls and ten games what more do i get to work with#and she sat there listing games in the series (she hasn't played any but she watched me play 1 and 2)#and counted eight and then i listed some more and she was like ok you know what thats fair#but that said she said the funniest thing ever that i NEED to draw but its too late for tonight#so you guys will get more of them at some point#also im still amused that luxord in kh3 appears after demyx says hes benched#and proceeds to say WELL AT LEAST I WASNT BENCHED like super casually and demyx just ouch you were listening thats rude#like they're supposed to be vessels and yet they still manage to have a bicker moment over importance of roles
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wait i just noticed something
in deep cover there is a line where kotoko says "Make yourselves my reason". YOURSELVES. plural
as far as the prisoners know, es is the only one choosing the veredicts. so...
#qrevo.txt#milgram#SHE KNOWS TOO MUCH#first she suddenly knows all the prisoners crimes out of nowhere#now she knows es is being a vessel to multiple people#what else?? will she suddenly know about es' forgotten memories?? is she going to reveal herself as Captain Milgram??#much to think about...#(or; on the other hand; she might be saying that all of the prisoners will become her reason?? awww so nice!! let's vote her forgiven <3)
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The idea that Mettaton knows about the amalgamates and that's why he and Alphys aren't friends anymore drives me insane and it's an interpretation no one can change my mind about
#MTT knows the reason Asgore hired Alphys was bc Asgore saw that Alphys had made a vessel a soul could be put into (MTT)& thot itd be useful#the fact we know from her logs that Alphys and Mettaton were still on speaking terms *during* the amalgamate experiments#the fact that MTT could probably see the true labs elevators shaft from his hiding spot in the wall#(i made a diagram showing this once but I'm too lazy to find it)#(point is idk why Alphys would choose that spot for MTT if he doesn't already know the elevator's there)#the way his 'all so you would think she's the great person...that shes not' bit kinda implies he doesnt think Alphys is great like. morally#the way the game refuses to give us a clear answer about their falling out#adrien says stuff#utdr#Mettaton#Alphys#headcanons analysis au ideas and such#edit-also his ''Since the flash of light [Alphys]'s been working hard to set everything right. Ha-Ha. About time huh?'' line is v telling#(ty to susielesbianism for finding that quote Id known he said smth along but couldn't remember exactly what/when)
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ACTUALLY YOU KNOW WHAT????
I AM CURSING (/j) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FOR NOT TELLING ME THE ESPERAS WERE DOING AN INSTAGRAM Q&A????
Not. ONE. Of you. Shame and disgrace and dishonour upon you all (/jjjjj).
Not mad, just disappointed.
#legitimately so sad right now i can't believe i missed it i'm about to cry#i'm pmsing don't mind me she's extra sensitive#anyways. giggling and kicking my feet at all the things we have in common omg#worth to note the have listen Bon Iver as both and inspiration and dream collab#BON IVER. MY FAVOURITE SOLO ARTIST OF ALL TIME. NY FAVOURITE SONG IS FROM HIM#Hello????? If that happens i will cry. I've been SAYING mr Vessel should cover him.#He likes him. HE SAID IT HIMSELF IN THE ONE INTERVIEW THEY DID#i am in shambles at this information#espera#they have listed* i will not change it now whatever
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(Going insane boinkinh one AU in my head)
Hey hey hey
May I interest you in
(Slowly slides my FaaF AU towards you but void just Disappears without a trace one day before the accolade)
Teehee
#thylacines can talk#faaf au#i love this au very yummy. a very fun twist on how Flower's dynamic with their parents would progress afterwards#the vessels live but the void exits their bodies in quite a violent manner (extreme pain and literally throwing up an entire person worth of#void). Flower was on guard duty and theyre found barely conscious in a pool of rapidly evaporating void. passes out seconds later#PK also had the displeasure of experiencing extene pain and burning as void forced its way out through his skin <3 And his moulds all melted#and evaporated. after the initial shock wears off theyre hit with “Oh No#the vessel“ and rush to find them. Well somebody else was already looking for the royal pair about this#Flower wakes up dazed and in pain in their father's workshop. their stomach hurts their throat burns and they feel lightheaded. the entire#place is considerably brighter than they remember and in they can hear two faint voices in the background but theyre too preoccupied with#examining their now pure white hand in shock to focus on anything else. until they hear their mother say “My wyrm they're awake” and#suddenly their parents are by their side. Now the two have no idea what void leaving their body might have done to them. Are they still#hollow? are they still dead? do they understand anything are they sentient? or was what was done pernament even without the void? do they#have the mind of a child if their sentience was restored? or do they remember anything? So WL stays by their side and helps them sit up#while their father goes to grab his tools. She's trying to keep them calm and comfort them but theyre still too disoriented to pay her much#attention. Until their father checks their breathing and they yelp audibly from the cool metal contacting their skin and suddenly they seem#much more alert. theyve never experienced true coldness before. PK quickly apologises and tries to be gentler with them. Theyre breathing#properly and they have a heartbeat. And he just pauses for a long while just. listening to their heart beating. Many emotions to be had#after the exam's over he asks them point blank how theyre feeling. And Flower looks up at him still seeming a little disoriented. and then#they lower their hand to their stomach and mutter 'My tummy hurts...a-and my throat burns'. It's to be expected after the way the void#left their body. so he goes to grab them some water and meds and they also ask for food and a mirror. And after he returns they just stare#at themself in the mirror and pull on their bangs for a while then blurt out 'I have your eyes' when PK asks if everything's okay. And he#and he almost chokes up as he replies 'Yeah...Yeah you do'. Flower eventually spins a lie that they remember everything but its all distant#and blurry. Like they were not aware until now. They figured it'd be better to not break their hearts#And now the three have to figure out how to be a family while PK is also scrambling to find a new solution to the infection#oops i meant to only give a brief rundown in the tags which is why it was in the tags. but i got too invested KDHDKFB
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Kevin is a fun character for me because the character the game repeatedly tells us he is and the character the game repeatedly shows us he is are just… blatantly two different characters, but regardless of which one you choose to believe is canon, he’s still one of the most sympathetic mf in the game and I will be very upset if he’s actually killed off
#honkai impact#kevin kaslana#where are my fellow Kevin enthusiasts at?#‘the only person he cares about is Dr. MEI-‘ hoyo you literally introduced him by showing us him repeatedly reliving one Sakura’s death#and the guilt that consumed him because of it and the various other sacrifices he had to make#those are not the actions of a dude who doesn’t care!!!#he built Hua a god damn sanctuary to keep her safe!#he chose saving Su’s life over completing project stigma (you know… Dr. MEI’s frickin legacy)#the Kaslana stigma version of him shows that he fucking loves his family and values their accomplishments#he cried over Elysia’s death#the ER version of him fucking risked it all to save her sim#hell he even recruited Mei just to honor Ely’s legacy and show her she won#in ‘the demon’ rememberance vessel they explicitly say he was desperately trying to keep Su out of the fight all together#and also did his best to keep Mobius away from Su#and in EE he only talked to Aponia just so Su didn’t have to#Mihoyo these are not the actions of someone who doesn’t care#also he kept Fu Hua’s feather safe and gave it back to Senti so she could get her body back#Kevin deeply loves all his friends and family and nothing Mihoyo says can convince me otherwise#he did everything for them not just for Dr. MEI#I can’t even judge his actions#like he’s literally just some guy- how is he supposed to know how to save the world#these aren’t even his plans. he’s just trying his best#I’d also go a little insane if I was powerless to stop most of my loved ones from dying and the world from being destroyed in front of me#I can’t blame him for not immediately trusting the power of friendship#man makes sense to me
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So the "laughing voices" mocking the doll, are they ever clarified? Is it certain it is banica, Adam and Marie or?
What, like does mothy take time out of the Capriccio chapter of the Heavenly novel to clarify which specific vessels were mocking the Clockworker's Doll in the song?
No, and like a lot of the little embellishments in the series' songs it's a detail I'm content for him to leave vague.
#i mean look she says it's “articles of the room”#and in context this means the vessels of sin he was collecting#and we have a good idea of who was inhabiting which vessel at the time and which ones gallerian had specifically#in the leadup to his death#so you can then probably infer who in general is saying this#but also i think you are taking it too seriously given it's a throwaway line in the song#simply meant to hint that she is herself a vessel of sin
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hi @foileadeux i realized ur radiance bullying pk reminded me of the maidenless meme for some reason and this all just kinda snowballed from there
hollow knight gjinkas from foileadeux’s designs!
#idk what she'd actually be saying tho. ''no pure vessel?'' is too wordy. ''no wife?'' is a good contender ig#also even if its not particularly canon for anything ever im obsessed w the idea of lurien taking 1 look at pale king's ''mad ravings'' (bei#(being cyberbullied by radiance) and going ''i want him'' so there's that#i cant believe i didnt see the little '''peeled''' on pk's ref sheet until recently it's v funny to think of. peel that little man#what is a king without his robes. peeled#hollow knight fanart#movin this bad boy outta the drafts#upon further reflection i think monomon would not fucking say that i think she might take pity on lurien potentially but also look at this#new guysymptom to study under a microscope. u know
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new reason for lucifer!claire truthing. this is literally the only way she can get these three terrifying assholes who ruined her life to leave her alone and stop stalking her. she takes an archangel inside her because that’s how she can have any control over this situation.
#lucifer in return gets a vessel (and a feral blonde lesbian to latch onto) and also a way to fuck with tfw#genuinely Claire is in a horrifying situation. and these guys literally will not leave her alone. she keeps running and they keep finding#her. Castiel has TOLD her that he can find her anywhere she goes.#like in the show it’s more played as they’re worried about her they’re very sweet to check on her but to be clear:#Castiel is her Azazel. sam and Dean are serial killers that she does not know beyond the fact that they never questioned what happened to#her or her mom after they left her behind. despite Castiel’s literal actual face standing as a reminder of the man he killed.#these guys are not her friends or her family she has met them like three times and each time has ended violently#so what I’m saying is. when someone gets desperate enough. and has lost enough. that’s where Lucifer comes in.#spn#claire Novak#lucifer spn#lucifer!claire
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This is why I put my money on Angel. She's a real hater, a woman after my own heart 😌
#also can people stop saying she's dead or dying#Hana just lost an arm nothing RCT can't fix and we know Angel is a skilled sorcerer she can patch up her vessel#Sukuna got no points so no death#jjk spoilers#jjk 217#jjk angel
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i do think the fact that everybody in your party pretty obviously has something deeply wrong with them is one of the things that makes da2 fun. you have:
the dwarf who treats his deadly weapon that he’s murdered literally hundreds of people with like an anime body pillow and may or may not be in a relationship with it
the shy (slightly autistic?) elf girl who is 100% convinced she is way too smart to ever be mind-controlled by demons, so dabbling in blood magic is fine
the emotionally unstable mage who is mind-controlled by a fade spirit with anger issues
the former elf slave (child?) soldier
the pirate who got out of her abusive relationship by having her lover murder her husband, and who seems to cope with her issues via drinking, sex, and risky smuggling operations, and who’s terrified of emotional intimacy
the ex-soldier who had to watch her husband be euthanized in front of her while fleeing the undead and promptly became a cop
hawke herself, who can be traumatized by the death of every single member of her family depending on certain choices, and who has to watch her mother get turned into a necromancer’s mad science experiment love doll, all the while relying on this merry band of lunatics to try to keep her entire world from falling apart (and failing)
none of these people are remotely okay. by these standards, everybody in the DA:O party had an utterly idyllic background.
#dragon age#yes even morrigan#i can just imagine isabela saying to her#'oh boo hoo so your mom wanted to turn you into a vessel for her soul so she can work'#'her immortal revenge plot on the elven gods'#'at least your mom kept you around!'#we don't talk about sebastian#who is incredibly annoying#and who i hate so much#also i think it's very funny that avelline is by far the most well adjusted party member#she is also wayyy to smart to get involved with hawke or anybody else
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