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aludraslytherin · 5 months
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*In the Afterlife*:
Lily : James look ! Severus is here ! He's gonna take Harry an-...
James : Hug your dead body.
Marlene : Leave the house, abandoning your crying one-year-old alone with your body.
Evan : After looking at him with disgust.
Dorcas : And purposefully kicking James's body.
Lily :
Lily : As soon as he enters the Afterlife I will break his nose.
Regulus : And kick him so hard that his ribs will be left in crumbs !
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readwithlivvy · 3 days
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reminder that this is how severus snape treated his students
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radiohead-spiderman · 3 months
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Some of the marauders fandom makes me exhausted, you guys do know that the marauders were assholes right? The Snape thing wasn’t James and Sirius being sweet baby boys trying to protect themselves, it was a back and forth of bullying, they were rivals, Snape wasn’t just an evil greasy little man, and James wasn’t a sweet innocent can do no wrong little baby. It was a RIVALRY.
Let James Potter have flaws Jesus Christ. On that note, let Snape have SOME type of character BESIDES being bad. If your only take away from Snape and Lily’s relationship was that it was bad for Lily and that Lily was an idiot for not being able to see Snape’s red flags, you’re objectively incorrect.
This can also be said vice versa for Snape stans. James Potter was not an evil bully, he was a popular asshole, like MOST teenage boys are, however he grew and was objectively a good person.
To add commenting “Stan Bambi” on a positive Snape post does not make you cool or funny, it makes you mildly annoying at best, however commenting “James Potter was a bully” on a positive James post, makes you a mild annoyance at best as well.
Literally just let people like characters, this goes for both Snape fans AND Marauders fans.
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the-most-faithful · 3 months
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James Potter Stans"justifications"
I found this old thread on reddit and it is pure gold. The classic "justifications" used by James Potter Stans.
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This isn't really an excuse, it's just admitting that James was an arrogant bully under the guise of "he was a teenager" surprise, Snape was a teenager too.
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Oh, that's the point, for all those who keep saying "We don't deny reality" here you go.
James didn't bully Snape, they were just rivals. I'm not good at math, but since when would 2 VS 1 be rivality? Because in the books we know that James and Sirius attacked Snape just out of boredom, where would the rivalry be? Isn't attacking someone by slamming them to the ground, lifting them by the ankle, suffocating them with soap, SA them bullying? Is it simple rivalry? So tell me, what's the other side of the story. Rivality means that they are equals and attack each other equally. When did Snape ever attack, suffocate, curse James? (And no, I haven't forgotten the Prank, but we'll talk about it later)
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James didn't change in canon, he got everything he wanted without ever having to apologize, he was popular, on the right side of the war and he got married to the girl he liked, even though he bullied her best friend for years. James continued to attack Snape even in seventh year without telling Lily. But even so, let's pretend that James is really mature, what does this prove? That first he was an arrogant bully, so at least we don't deny this fact, and then at some point he changed, so what? Do the years of bullying disappear? I wouldn't say, going back to clarify that in the books the only change James made was to no longer attack other students, he continued to target Snape behind Lily's back.
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Well no, we were told that Snape was prejudiced against muggles (I remind you that his muggle father was violent towards him and his mother) and hung out with people like Avery, Mulciber etc. But it is never said in the books that he used dark magic against Muggle-borns. I can agree with one thing, Snape called muggleborns Mudblood. Everyone except Lily, until The worst memory. But again, what is this supposed to prove? Wasn't Snape a victim of bullying because he used an offensive term? Whatever he did doesn't take away the fact that he was a victim of bullying.
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There are so many things wrong here that I don't feel like correcting them all. But the biggest one, The Prank doesn't happen in the seventh year but before the worst memory. We know this from the memories that appear in the seventh book. Lily and Severus still talk to each other, they're still friends. The "James had changed by that point" theory doesn't hold up as a few months later he SA Snape just out of boredom in his worst memory.
In the Prank Sirius tried to kill Snape using Remus as a weapon (nice friend) and James took Snape out at the last minute. Is he a hero for this? He didn't let his best friend kill another person, that's the minimum for being a deceased person. It's like saying that making someone cross the street instead of hitting them with my car makes me a hero. Hell no, I'm just a normal person.
So what have we demonstrated in all this? Was Snape a wonderful person who had no flaws or faults? Absolutely not, but in his school years he was the victim of James and Siurius' bullying. Stop denying canonical reality, stop creating confusion with chronology and inventing facts that never happened.
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siriusthirdcousin · 10 months
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there are two kinds of harry potter fans and i’m afraid i’m the second kind. yes barty crouch jr is my babygirl. yes i hate snape. i don’t need to have reasons for this. i am delusional (fanon is so much more fun)!
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idkkkjustgay · 9 months
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Reading comments on snily or Snape Stan edits is so funny for no reason for example "he was such a complex character🥺" or "He deserved to be loved, I am so sorry for him :((" (did I copy these of a snily tiktok yes, yes I did) and the best part is the thousand "Stan Bambi" comments
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atyd1960 · 5 months
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The more I think about it the more I'm confused about Snape's so called "redemption arc".
We don't know much about his years at Hogwarts outside of the time James hanged him from his underwear and he called Lily a Mudblood, but we know that:
1. He had a disdain for Muggles ever since he was born or at least ever since he was 10 y/o bc that's when he meets Lily and Petunia and treats the latter like garbage.
2. He was friends with Mulciber and Avery- known death eaters, especially Mulciber who we know was particularly close with Baldy due to the time he came to Hogsmede with him for his job interview with dummydore.
From that we can assume that he was a witness and a participant in A Lot of hate crimes against Muggle Borns ever since he was a minor. One of which was the time Mary was the victim.
3. We know HE invented the spell James used to hang him from his panties, which must mean that he used it against others, probably muggle borns, and his DE friends must've used it as well.
4. We know he invented the spell Sectumsempra to use against his enemies?? (Sorry it's been a while since I read the books I don't remember the exact quote.) and his enemies are almost certainly the Marauders. Also maybe his dad but that's a discussion for another day.
5. We know he was one of Baldy's dearest death eaters, even tho he was a Half-Blood with no status and no connections, which means he definitely did a lot of horrific things to Muggles and Muggle borns and the members of the Order of Phoenix.
6. We know he heard Trelawney's prophesy after eavesdropping in a bar, and immediately ran to Baldy with it. He knew that by telling Baldy about the prophecy an innocent baby will be killed, and he didn't give a shit. I cannot stress enough how much that information in vital for his character. Taking a baby's life so that Baldy might give him a sit closer to him by the table. And nothing would've happened to him if he shut his mouth and didn't go to Baldy. He didn't have his life or even his status\loyalty on the line. He just sacrificed this anonymous innocent baby for kicks and giggles.
7. The only point in which he cared about his actions was when Lily's life was on the line. This wanker really didn't care that he just gave Baldy (a man who made it his life' mission to kill Lily and the likes of her) a reason to kill Lily's son and husband, who were practically her only source of joy while she fought against his people in the war. He just wanted the girl he slurred and stalked and mistreated in high-school to live with all her friends and family dead. And thought he was doing something good. I don't even know how to begin to describe how fucked up that is.
8. He went to Dummydore and asked him to save her. After he got her, her husband and her kid to be under an even worse constant death threat than they were before because of Lily's blood status and their participant in the order. And after he spent the last 3-4 years killing Lily’s friends and the people who share her blood status.
9. That was also the point in which he offered himself to be a double spy right?? Again real heroic of him to risk his life after all the shit he did because he was in love with a girl whose life he ruined. He never cared about all the shit he did and all the people he murdered and he never actually wanted to help innocent people or do good by the world or even by Lily.
10. After Baldy died for the first time and the first war ended, Harry had nobody left, and Dummydore put him with Petunia and Vernon. Snape knew better than anyone else what the Dursleys will do to Harry. He knew everything, and he didn't do shit. Not only did he not do shit, but he also made things worse for Harry by bullying and harassing him since the moment he stepped foot in the castle.
11. Extending on the last point- Snape bullied, harassed, abused, mistreated and discriminated against students at Hogwarts ever since he started teaching there, I'm not gonna start elaborating on all the times he did those things because that would take a different essay of similar length.
12. Yeah I don't really know what to add here? That's pretty much it I think.
So to conclude: am I really expected to forgive him because he loved Lily and had a hard time with James when they were 16 and he spied for Dummydore for a bit?? Being a looser in middle school and then becoming a double spy doesn’t make up for… anything. Especially since he never stopped being a terrible person.
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ascarylesbian · 11 months
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If you think about it Snape's memories of James Potter are probably not very accurate. I mean it had been over 15 years and when you really hate someone or your really angry about something you can sometimes miss remember things. So for all we know the memories could have been exaggerated.
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resident-gay-bitch · 4 months
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modern snape’s group would unironically start one of those alpha man podcasts and the marauders would find it so hilarious they’d sit there listening each week and then make a podcast themselves mimicking everything those guys said and 90% of the thing would be them wheezing and crying laughing into the mics but people would gobble it up
they’d also bring the girls in for special episodes and act like really dumb guys asking dumb questions and they’d all just be posing themselves and secretly shittalking like snape and mulciber and stuff but it’s also really helpful and teaches people actual stuff. like they’d pretend to be dumb guys not knowing how sanitary products work and then the girls would sit there “makinf fun” of them and teaching them about these things and saying all the shit they wish they could actually say to dumb mysogynistic men’s faces all the time
sometimes the royal court (skittles) would get bought on there too and it would get even funnier because they’d all be playing different characters making fun on “alpha” males and trying not to laugh
james and sirius would love it so much they’d have their own spin off podcast where they just get to be normal dumb like the basement yard podcast
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percy15 · 7 months
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I think we need to discuss the fact that it wasn’t just Sirius who contributed to the prank!!!
Like people just forget that Snape KNEW Remus was a werewolf and was going into the shack to test his theory! He fully knew the consequences and even if he wasn’t thinking of them because you know who else wasn’t thinking of the consequences? Sirius when he told Snape! And also Snape did it so he had concrete proof Remus was a werewolf! Sirius told Snape because Snape is an asshole and Snape went into the shrieking shack because Snapes an asshole not because Sirius manipulated him or something!!! Like yes obviously Sirius should be held accountable because he did do something terrible but let’s not act like what Snape did wasn’t just as bad!!
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missesmckinnon · 9 months
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Snape: *breathes* Petunia: Please go somewhere else. How dare you do that in my presence. Lily: He's my friend, Tuni, please be kind to him. Petunia: Not to be dramatic, but I'd rather die.
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aludraslytherin · 3 months
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Why the fuck, when the Fidelius Charm was cast, did they not think to make a goddamn unbreakable vow !? Like, it's so obious ???
And Sirius ? They can literally take a memory into a pensine something and watch it, they have legilimency for crying out loud !! They have veritaserum ! So whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ??? It's so stupid!
And Dumbledore ! oh this sorry excuse of a human being !
He knew that Peter was the secret keeper ! So WHY IN THE EVERLY MOTHERLY FLIBBIDY FUCK didn't he said so ???
It makes me so fucking crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
And everyone that is like 'ThE BoY WhO LiVeD' 'hE DefEtEd tHe DaRk lOrD' erh, NO ?! It was thanks to LILY ?? He was just an INFANT who had the chance to be under a protecting spell created by LILY when she SACRIFIED HERSELF for her son ? Why is everybody forgeting about her ??
Oh, and don't start me about Snape !
'hE wAs BulLiEd bY JaMeS, HiS WoRsE MeMoRy iS HiM BeinG BuLliEd' Yeah, because he called Lily a slur
'hE WaS jUsT MiSuNdErStoOd' No, he was a death eater, fully believing in Voldy's BS,he only changed side because the girl he was obsessed with was in danger... Because of HIM ! People tend to forget that he was the one searching and giving the prophecy to the dArK LoRd, resulting in Lily's death.
And, 'JaMeS WaS jUsT A BulLy' We only sees him throught Snape's pov, aka, when he got 'bullies'c after he called Lily a mudblood.
And if James is a bully, doesn't that mean the Snape is one too ? No because :
-He made fun of Hermione for her teeth
-He bullies his students
-he exposed Remus when he had no reason for, since he is the one brewing the wolfsbane potion
-he hates and bullies the son of 'the love of his life' because Harry had the infortune of looking like his father, that Snape resents
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-he was a death eater
-he is a racist
-he is a blood supremacis
-he is Neville worst fear, the boy who literally had his parents torturedby Bellatrix. Shouldn't she be his boggart ?? But noooo, it's our 'wonderful and misunderstood' Snape
-when he hugged Lily's body, while her son was crying his eyes out, being hurt, seeing his mother die, having blood on his forehead, and then leaving the house without even comforting or taking Harry to Saint-Mungos !!
-blamed James for bullying him, when he created Sectum Sempra, and was into dark magic !
-trying to make Harry expelled
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licorice-lips · 11 months
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Something I'm really mad about the Harry Potter books is that people seem to think that Snape's love for Lily was something beautiful when it was something based on excluding everything he didn't want to see about her
Case in point, the fact that she was a muggleborn: Snape loved Lily despite her being a muggleborn and did it whilst trying to hurt people like her, people Lily could see herself in (btw how come this isn't considered creepy af?), bc to him "she was different", she was an exception.
Yeah, but to Lily (and everyone else really) she wasn't. She was a muggleborn just as the other muggleborns in the wizarding world and Severus was advocating to people like her to be persecuted, tortured and killed (again, how come isn't that creepy????). And let's not forget bigotry like that (fascist-like) is always accompanied by a huge amount of misogyny, just saying.
While James loved Lily not BECAUSE she was a muggleborn as much as because she was LILY, but he still saw her birth as something relevant (bc it was at the time) in the sense that he'd fight for her and every other person like her for the sole reason that that was the right thing to do.
I stan the right character and nothing you say can convince me otherwise.
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starsdrowntooyouknow · 9 months
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The prank.
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the-most-faithful · 3 months
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Fanon James Potter
Ok I need to say this, anyone who loves the Fanon James Potter needs to stop defending the canon one.
Some fanfictions are pieces of art, well written and with interesting plots, but they distort some characters. If you like Fanon James ok, but he's not the canon one.
James in canon was an arrogant bully, that's the truth. We can talk about whether he changed or not (Spoiler, he hasn't changed, he's just dead) but using non-canon facts to cleaning up canon James is ridiculous.
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werewolfenthusiast · 10 months
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maybe unpopular opinion but i don’t think lily was friends with mary and marlene from first year because i don’t think they’d put up with her defending snape
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