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dedalvs · 1 year
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I mentioned that Christian Thalmann got the chance to create a script for Shu for Shadow and Bone. This is it! I knew he’d do an amazing job, and he knocked it out of the park with this one.
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tsibeyantiger · 3 months
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You're just not ready for the detailed analysis of GrishaVerse wildlife I'm gonna write when I'm done with my exams
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Pov: you’re one of the normal Kerch farmers who came to Kuwei’s auction
“Me? Oh I’m just in the city visiting my kid at the university, saw the posters and thought I might as well come down,”
“It’s getting a bit busy, isn’t it? Glad I got here early to get a seat at the front, yeah,”
“I wonder why such a big group of Kaelish have come?”
“Bloody hell, half the damn country of Novyi Zem are here,”
“The Fjerdans are here - and, Ghezen, that’s the Ravkans too!”
“THE SHU!!??”
“Ok, seriously, who the hell is this kid?”
*whispered during the auction*:
“Dare you to bid 60 million”
“I am not bidding 60 million, are you insane?”
“Ohhhh come on, it’d be so funny! And you won’t have to pay it, they’ll all outbid you,”
“You do it then,”
“Ugh, no way. I’m not embarrassing myself in front of half the saints-forsaken world”
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illicthearts · 1 year
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The fact that Zoya, Nina, Jesper and Tolya were able to walk around Shu Han without fearing capture is just ridiculous, like did they forget the part where Shu Han cuts up Grisha to experiment on them?
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aquitainequeen · 1 year
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Here's where I've gotten so far with my thoughts when it comes to Shadow and Bone being renewed/Six of Crows spinoff.
We're not even a quarter of the way through. Stay tuned.
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sleepless-crows · 1 year
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✨travelling the grishaverse✨
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savethegrishaverse · 5 months
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User CyberWitch from our discord made this lovely quiz to figure out just where in the Grishaverse you'd hail from! With the lovely support of our conlangers and the languages the Grishaverse has to offer, it's neat to discover where we all fit in our favorite world!
Take the quiz for yourself today!
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stromuprisahat · 1 year
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The Shadow and Bone creators had the unique chance to:
Give us more worldbuilding. What Grishaverse certainly doesn’t lack is plenty of ideas touched upon, but they’re rarely further explored.
Show both sides of the conflicts. We have a peak at Fjerda through Matthias’ eyes. We know almost nothing about Shu Han. Why make your MC Shu, when you won’t explore her heritage? Last but not least, the Darkling’s side doesn’t have any named characters once Ivan’s conveniently killed off. Genya defects, yet most of the Second Army followed Aleksander. He offered safety and vision of future, Alina does nothing, but support status quo- ignoring that does nothing to hide it.
Avoid mistakes LB did both due to her inexperience, shallownes and prejudice..
Instead we’ll get three books worth of plot crammed up into eight hours. Just CANCEL IT if you don’t wanna bother making an effort.
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call-me-sunpaw · 1 year
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Believe me. It does make sense.
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foronceididntlookback · 6 months
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so i finally went back to working on the grishaverse religions analysis thing
and on that topic, if anyone has any input on the non-canon but commonly used side of things for any of the countries/cultures/religions, feel free to send an ask or reblog this :)
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egret-orchids · 19 days
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WHO WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT SHU HAN BUTTERFLIES
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dedalvs · 1 year
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Some character names from Shadow and Bone.
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tsibeyantiger · 2 months
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It is time. Welcome, everyone, to my GrishaVerse wildlife analysis!
First of all some disclaimers. My comments are based on the books and since we are talking about a fictional world, not every rule from our universe must apply there. I remember a post about how it's stupid that Game of Thrones has got pumpkins because Westeros is European-themed and I call this bullshit. Westeros is inspired by Europe, but it IS not Europe, so pumpkins can be native there. Applying this logic, my assumptions about the GrishaVerse nature are limited. Just because Fjerda is inspired by Scandinavia, it doesn't necessarily have all the animals and plants that live there. But to make it easier, I will assume that Leigh Bardugo mentioned every animal she invented and everything else that lives there is a creature that exists in real life. And also, this is waaaaay too much stuff for just one post, so today, I will be only analysing Fjerda. The other countries will follow.
The Seawhip: Certainly the most spectacular animal, but actually kind of boring. It is unclear if dragons are a species in GrishaVerse or if the Seawhip is just one of a kind, just as the Firebird. Does it belong to the same species as Juris? Probably not, because they are pretty different. One must assume that there is only one Seawhip and this limits the influence it can have on an ecosystem. It uses to live in the Bone Road and preyed on probably anything. That's it.
Whales: There are at least two species of whales in the True Sea, but probably a lot more. They have dolphins that might even live as far north as Fjerda and are MAYBE hunted. But there's no doubt there is at least one big species of whales that is hunted by the Fjerdan and maybe also the Ravkan and Kaelish for probably centuries. A habitat as big as the True Sea allows much diversification and there will probably be whales that prefer deep waters as well whales that live close to the coast. These will have been the first one to be killed by humans, just as the right whales in our world, and they are probably already close to extinction during the time of the books. Hanne mentions whales in the bay of Djerholm. Whether they belong to the already rare species that lives close to the coast or to the one that usually prefers deep waters, they are probably unusual guests to Djerholm. The whales migrate, probably spend the winter somewhere south of Kerch, give birth and then swim north. The Bone Road carries ice even in summer, so it must be totally frozen in winter. This limits the range of the whales territory.
Bears: What kind of animals do live on the ice? Does the GrishaVerse have polar bears? We know that there are white bears in Tsibeya, but they probably aren't polar bears. They couldn't survive there. It is pretty likely that brown bears live in Fjerda, Ravka and Shu Han, with several subspecies. Ivan mentions a kodiak bear, probably from Tsibeya. Sankt Grigori also came across bears. The white bears might be a exceptionally bright subspecies of brown bears or there are two different species of bears in Tsibeya. If this is the case, it would be interesting to know the differences between their niches. Either way, it's safe to say Fjerda has got brown bears. Polar bears are more speculative, but I think they exist, too. There are many seals in the sea and something must prey on them.
Reindeers: It is canon that there are reindeers in Fjerda, and this totally fits to everything else we know about this country. The North of Fjerda must be tundra, it's too cold for trees. Reindeers migrate through the whole year, so they are probably roaming the tundra of Fjerda all the time. The sea must freeze in winter, so it's possible they spend the summer in Kenst Hjerte and move south as soon as the island is surrounded by ice. They are probably kept by the Hedjut, there isn't much else in the tundra a culture can subsist on. And THIS is really interesting, because you cannot force reindeers to stay at the same place all year. You must follow them. If they have got reindeers, the Hedjut are nomads.
Wolves: There are two subspecies of wolves in Fjerda. Grey wolves life in the south while polar wolves, the wild brothers of the Isenulf, follow the reindeers. The end of the forests probably marks the frontier where the land of the grey wolves ends and the land of the polar wolves begins.
Deers: How many species of deers can be found in Fjerda? The answer depends on Morozova's stag. The stag itself is apparently very old, but are the other deers also nearly immortal or are they just a population that survived since the days of Morozova? They are white, but they are no albinos. The one-million-kruge-question is: How do the other deers of Fjerda look like? Are they white, too, and this is just one population? Or are they brown and Morozova's herd is unique? Either way, there is at least one species of deer in Fjerda (wapitis?), maybe a second one, and they also have a lot of mooses. These might also be found in northern Ravka, or maybe Ravka had mooses, but they are extinct now. The deers do live in river valleys and light forests, but won't be found in the tundra, the Permafrost and Elbjen.
Seagulls: There are a lot of seagulls, probably more than one species.
Rodents: There a small rodents in the woods, probably mice and rats, also squirrels, because Fjerda's conifers offer them a lot of food. I'd also expect lemmings. There are also muskrats. Fjerda is also a great place for beavers, though we don't know if they actually live there, as well as groundhogs.
Fishes: The northern sea is very eutrophic and this isn't only appreciated by the whales and seals, but also by tons of fishes, squids, mussels and clams. Fish plays a huge role in the Fjerdan society. They've got herrings, squids, oysters, codfish, pollacks, salmons, haddocks and devilfish and perches, eels and sturgeons from the rivers. But apparently, they also eat narrow-banded mackerels, which is interesting, because these fish prefer warm water. So either there are warm currents in the True Sea or they import the fish or Fjerdan fishtrawlers navigate as far as the southern seas.
They must have owls and also birds that feed on fir cones such as red crossbills. There are probably eagles in Elbjen and maybe also in the west.
There are a lot of foxes in Ravka and they will probably also live in Fjerda. Maybe arctic foxes in the tundra. There is also certainly at least one small predator, such as a marten. Elbjen is a good place for chamois, ibex or mountain goats. We know there are lynx in Ravka, so they probably can also be found in Fjerda. As long as there are no very big predatory fish, there must be otters in the rivers.
The Fjerdan have got honey, so there must be bees. Fjerda cannot be a frozen country for the whole year. In spring, there are a lot of flowering plants blooming. It is canon that Fjerda has got lilies and I also expect lupines. Much of the landscape must look like a meadow in Sweden or Canada. There are mountains in the east and the northwest and in the North we have nothing but the tundra, but especially the area between Djerholm and Halmhend is probably pretty mild and has got a lot of agriculture.
The forrests are coniferous with a few broadleaf trees and include firs, larks and pines, but also willows, birchs and of course Djel's sacred ash.
And finally, since the Fjerdan use wool, there must be sheep. Fjerda doesn't offer particularly amazing meadows for sheep, but it could be a good place for moorland sheep or something.
A big thank you to everyone who kept on reading! Next time, I'm gonna analyse Shu Han.
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inej when kaz sees her coming to join the hunt for neshyenyer after he was a little bitch to her in black veil:
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fantastic-nonsense · 2 years
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dark Leigh Bardugo tell me the secrets of Shu Han's and Novyi Zem's religion and culture
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ghostofchaos-past · 1 year
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why does nobody talk about this:
"I was most disturbed by the experiments taking place behind the red-lacquered doors of the Corporalki anatomy rooms, where they were collaborating with the Fabrikators to try to fuse Grisha steel with human bone [...] But the process was painful and imperfect, and often, the metal was simply rejected by the subjects body." -page 298 of Siege and Storm
I've never seen anybody mention this before. how come when in the KOS duology, when they are dealing with the khergud, NOBODY MENTIONS THAT RAVKA TRIED TO MAKE THEM FIRST.
Obviously a khergud can only be created by a Fabrikator using parem, but parem hadnt been created in Siege and Storm, so they didnt even know that it was possible and they tried anyways (and in this scenario thats not a good thing)
the paragraph where they mention this goes on to say the subjects are First Army "volunteers" so my thought is this: what if they arent volunteers? what if Ravka did exactly what Shu Han did, only earlier and less successful? we're all judging Shu Han for creating the khergud program, but Ravka tried to do the exact. same. thing.
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