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just-cosmere-fan · 7 months
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merganfm · 7 months
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cam-ulu29 · 1 year
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lightflame · 8 months
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You ever think about how Paalm didn’t stop being Paalm when Lessie was shot in the head?
She wasn’t a corpse. She was still there. She was still her. She had to watch as the man she loved more than anything wept for her, more broken than he’d ever been. She had to let him bury her and leave her behind.
And she couldn’t say anything at all, not a word in comfort, not able to tell him that she was still there, because then she wouldn’t be Lessie any more, she would be Paalm, and all that runs deep in her bones is the fear that he could never love Paalm.
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Thoughts on Mistborn: Shadows of Self
Shadows of Self is incredibly great, heartbreaking, and thought-provoking!
I'm hurt and confused. And I'm not sure how to feel, and I love it for that. Shadows of Self is completely different than its preceding book. It is different from even the Mistborn trilogy. There are themes of the stagnation of political systems, religious tension, the ethics and morals of what line God should, could, might have on interfering with the lives of his creations. After finishing off the book, I genuinely had no idea what to think about Harmony, Trell's puppeteering, Bleeder's campaign, or the state of Elendel.
Something that annoyed me about Era 2's books off the bat was the noble system. There's no state sponsored murder or rape, and the nobles are more like businessmen. But it still felt like nothing changed over the last 340 years. I kept thinking... wow, this is what Kelsier died for?! This is what Vin and Elend fought to protect?! I started off hating everyone - Harmony, the Senate, constables, Wax, even Spook - for not erasing the noble system. But while reading the book I kept thinking about Sazed's limitations due to wielding the Shard of Harmony, his stance on free will, his subtle maneuvering of Wax and Marasi... and kept thinking about real life. I came to the realization that being in the role of God comes with a lot of nuance on guiding mortals. I connected the stagnation of Elendel back to the history of the US... how even though centuries has passed, many abhorrent systems are masked by seemingly more human systems. Governments are still being controlled by nobles and aristocrats, just in a different flavor. Policing has so many issues it could take 1000 years to solve.
Even after finishing the book, I still think the noble system should've been completely erased. But now I'm thinking if that would've fundamentally changed things. The US doesn't have monarchs, nobles, slave plantations, or aristocrats. But corporations, billionaires, politicians, and the upper class get away with a lot, they find ways to obtain power and avoid accountability. Would Harmony be right if he gave the divine mandate of "I DECREE NO NOBLES FOR ALL OF TIME!" At that point is free will a choice?
I started off blaming Harmony for not making a democratic world with no nobles. Ended off having… weird feelings about him. Like... MeLann brings up a great point about the kandra impersonating witnesses to testify against people. If Harmony allowed that, that could be a dangerous precedent.
But then there's Bleeder. Bleeder is easily my favorite antagonist in the series. She's incredibly competent, her body horror is gruesome horrific, and her climax is depressingly tragic. May she rest in the Beyond. Poor Wax. This is the thing that has me feeling weird about Harmony. This hurts cuz of Sazed. Fuck Sazed. Fuck Sazed. I knew Harmony would’ve become a Chessmaster, but not like this. Sazed isn’t supposed to manipulate people. Sazed isn’t supposed to cause trauma to people 😭😢💔💔
But Sazed is, unfortunately, the Hero of Ages. Harmony seems to be foreseeing a great disaster caused by Trell. I’m pretty sure he’s trying to thread towards a future possibility that will save Scadrial from this disaster. He must think about the future of the entire world. It hurts that he moved Wax this way, but would there really have been any difference if he left Wax completely alone? The Set - puppets of a Shard of Adonalsium - would've subtly caused turmoil on Elendel. What if he told Wax he was hunting Lessie? TenSoon said it himself. Harmony saw the future, saw that Wax wouldn't go through with it. Bleeder - another puppet of a Shard - would've succeeded in her goals. Sure he could've maneuvered someone else, but it opens a new can of worms!
I love the hints of Trell being a far scarier antagonist than it appears. I love the advancements and possibilities of Hemalurgy Trell is responsible for. Shadows of Self does a far better job than The Hero of Ages presenting gray morality in the motives and plans of gods. It also does a far better job at presenting a smart and clever antagonistic deity. I think with the conflict between Ruin and Preservation, Sanderson wrote many things that made Ruin appear too much like "the bad guy." He can say Preservation has a dark side, but we never saw it. The one reprehensible thing Preservation could've been completely responsible for - the Deepness killing people - ended up being the result of his frayed mind. He could've been solely responsible for the Deepness covering the Sun and killing plants, but that ended up being caused by Ruin. Ruin spoke with too much malice and joy of killing all life and destroying everything. Apart from his attributes being fundamental aspects of life and the Universe, there was no possible way I could've seen his stance as having any sort of value. Sanderson also wrote too many things that made Ruin's planning so far behind Preservation's. Preservation felt like a Xanatosian genius even on his deathbed. Ruin was a petulant child. Ruin wasn't kind, or patient, or particularly clever, or have long-spanning schemes when Sanderson presented him in the spotlight. Don't even get me started on his futuresight lmao. And tbh I don’t get why Sanderson wrote a being of death and destruction as the opposite of stasis and stability. Is he trying to say in life and creation, everything either stays the same or everything dies?
I know that wasn’t his intent, but it came across that way. It’s haphazard in retrospect, and I don’t understand why that was the direction after the beauty of Kelsier’s rebellion. I still love the concept of Ruin and Preservation’s conflict, but I think it could’ve been much more developed. More nuanced. Ruin could’ve been far more of a Chessmaster or represented a different concept.
With Harmony and Trell... I'm not as certain who's the good or bad guy. And so far, Trell's schemes are genuinely complex, layered, and terrifying. Even the Set are scary.
Marasi grew a lot, as expected. Wayne didn't grow but he was still so much fun. Love the new dynamic of Wayne and MeLaan, who's also pretty great. ARADEL IS A MAN!!!
There wasn't much of Steris this book. But she vastly improved in such a short time! Feels like she hides a lot but is actually a warm person. Look at the ending 🥺
Well done, Sanderson. I give Shadows of Self ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️/5.
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cosmere-cosmeme · 9 months
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thinking about the hotel scene in the bands of mourning
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thestormlightnetwork · 6 months
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i finished shadows of self
BRANDON SANDERSON I DEMAND AN APOLOGY VIDEO. WITH TEARS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN WAX KILLED HIS WIFE TWICE??????
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lamaery · 1 year
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Cosmere Inktober – 7 Lantern [Image descripton: digital drawing of Wax and TenSoon walking through a dark tunnel. Wax is wearing is long tasseled duster and holds up an oil lantern in his left hand. The metal cage of the lantern is reminiscent of the metal alphabet symbols. TenSoon is his wolfhound form – it looks a bit like an Irish wolfhound with some wolf elements mixed into it. He is huge, his shoulder height reaching almost up to tall Wax's chest.]
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The funniest part in Shadows of Self was when Wayne is telling a story about how he ate too many sausages and had to take a massive painful shit afterwards, then Melaan pops her head out to call him "cute" and his response is something like "sorry, I'm saving myself for [the lesbian who keeps shooting him]".
My brother in booze, that's a statuesque shape-shifting party girl who thinks poop jokes are funny. You literally can not pull anyone better.
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wyndlerunner · 2 years
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“Marasi could barely make out the giant statues of the Ascendant Warrior and her husband in the Field of Rebirth peeking out over the throng.”
Elend would be so pleased to hear that history remembers him as “Vin’s husband”
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just-cosmere-fan · 9 days
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Something something Ati being as much of Ruin's puppet as Marsh was Ati's something something Harmony manipulating Wax just as Ruin(and Preservation) manipulated him something something the cycle of abuse
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ezhrndle · 3 months
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Just finished The lost metal
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swagspren · 11 months
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If I could give any cosmere character an out of universe phrase, I wouldn’t even give anyone “fuck.” I would give Wayne “vibe check”
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l3st1b0urn3s-707 · 10 days
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I finished the first part of Sadows of self!!! For the moment it's looking really good, I'm really curious about who wrote Marsh's book (I'm thinking Kelsier, maybe? but I actually have no idea). My lovely girl Marasi is being iconic, as usual, Wax and Wayne are super cool, and I'm starting to really like Steris. Overall the book looks very promising, can't wait to read more!
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lavenderleahy · 7 months
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Me literally any time Steris and Wax have a scene together
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cosmere-cosmeme · 1 year
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My Feruchemical Romance
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