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Dusting off the old tumblr with a compilation of all my supercorp illustrations
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ICYMI, the Supergirl, Batwoman and Gotham Knights writer Natalie Abrams who penned the DC Comics official Batwoman CW-tie in just confirmed it. She was making Supercorp canon in how she wrote Lena in that comic.
Someone asked, and she answered with a link to the comic she wrote after SGCW wrapped:
In which this happened…
There ya go.
Kara was Lena's "hot date".
Supercorp is canon, as confirmed by this writer herself from an official DC Comic that was a direct tie-in/companion comic series to Supergirl and Batwoman and the Arrowverse itself.
Debate is over. 🤷♀️
Supercorp Endgame. 😏
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#supercorp#supergirl#lena luthor#kara zor el#batwoman#natalie abrams#dc comics#arrowverse#sgcw#lgbtq
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#supergirl#lena luthor#where's the thirteen-minute workout video sgcw#wasted potential#katie mcgrath#gettin sad huffy and sweaty#//#xx#do not repost anywhere
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Apart from show canon, at which point did u think it was too late for lena's immediate forgiveness to kara's identity reveal
oh boy. anon, here is where i come clean about my shoddy recollection of canon’s chronology. i’ve done so many fragmented rewatches and skipping back and forth—there’s a reason i rarely dabble with canon-adjacent stuff! and that even when i do, i create worlds where Lena figures it out herself!
second road bump to answering this question is that i have a LOT of feelings about how things played out on the show, and most of them are incongruent with the tone of sgcw. i understand their narrative reasons for keeping the secret from Lena for so long! but the execution is so, so terrible! ignoring large swathes of canon and replacing them with my own is the only way i’m able to enjoy at least the last tiny handful of seasons!
here is where i spend an hour procrastinating from my WIPs, while not successfully answering your question at all:
to be perfectly clear: i adore most parts of canon Kara. and i think i may be hard on her in ways i wouldn't be if i didn’t relate to her so much. i think her backstory is extremely compelling and i admire her ability to hold on to her kindness and hope and joy even after losing everything that was important to her, even when she’s tired and lonely and mad.
BUT. a healthy Lena—one who we were made to believe was finally freeing herself from Lex and Lillian, rising above the coping mechanisms she’d developed as an unwanted and emotionally neglected child? i don’t think that Lena would (should?) have forgiven canon Kara at all.
after the rift, canon Kara flitted between telling Lena she’d lied to her ‘to protect you’ to ‘one person who sees me only as Kara’ to ‘your last name’ to ‘didn’t want to lose you’ until she literally told Lena she was on her own, and she’d treat her like any other villain until Lena repented, even rejecting her apology at first, as if Kara’s own decisions had played no part in Lena’s downward spiral at all.
the Kara Lena would have forgiven is the much more cohesive and coherent Kara brought to us by our talented fix-it writers: a Kara who is willing to let herself be vulnerable and to second-guess her motivations, one who is able to put together a proper apology and actually listen to Lena's own.
but, okay, lets table all of that. this is me trying really, really hard to entertain canon:
Kara and Lena’s friendship became painfully lopsided by season 3. i think that was, if i recall correctly, when the super-friends decided to trust Lena enough to regularly ask her for assistance—but not enough to let her be part of their in-group; it’s where they left Lena in the dark about the fact that her best friend had come close to plunging to her death right in front of Lena's eyes, and was actively still fighting for her life; where they tricked Lena into having an extremely personal conversation with J’onn, while he was wearing Kara’s features, only to make belly-laughing fun of her about it later.
and even then, honestly, it might already have been too late. what about the aftermath of Jack’s death? was that season 2? Jack was Lena’s ex-everything, someone who genuinely loved her, who saw her through the fallout of Lex’s arrest. he was one of her last remaining friends, and Lena pressed the button to let him die in order to save Supergirl’s life. how would Lena knowing that Kara went through that with her, knowing Lena had chosen to save the life of her favorite person in addition to National City’s hero, have changed the way she felt about that horrible situation? that’s where that extremely wonderful heart-to-heart on the L-Corp couch happened, right? Kara swore she’d always be Lena’s friend—while keeping silent about the fact that she was there when Jack drew his last breath, that she had witnessed their final moments.
so—i really can’t tell you anon, i’m so sorry. the 100th episode already fabricated reasons why Kara couldn’t possibly come clean to Lena back when she made the conscious decision to be her friend (and not in a ‘keep your enemies close’ kind of way!), and i’m beginning to think that was the only moment Kara could have told Lena that would have kept her conscience completely clear. Kara should have made it part of her decision—either she was going to be Lena’s friend and give her the same trust Lena was giving her, or she would keep things professional, and keep her identity a secret from her.
Kara tried to do both, and if i really think about it, i don’t believe that was ever fair.
#i could have kept going anon#drifting further & further away from your original question all the while#i think it would have helped it supergirlcw would have figured out at one point what kind of show they wanted to be#and possibly maybe also perhaps if they'd managed to make up their mind about who these characters were and what they wanted? idk#is it lighthearted and fun? then lena knew all along and kara half-suspects but it's still hard to come out and actually say it#is it dramatic? maybe lena still knows but she's convinced kara not telling her means she's just another luthor AND MAYBE SHE IS#is lena just another evil luthor? so kara was right keeping her secret from her! bring on the (actual proper) villain arc!#etc etc ad nauseam & ad infinitum#thank you for letting me get this out i guess anon lmao#perhaps it is A Day#ask me things!#anonymous
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Most of Gavin's appearances after NJO kind of feel like Denning just needed another name to drop in the GA military brass.
I'd have really liked to see more of his side of the politics in FotJ. As, like, an actual point of view for the support the Jedi have from the military. I'm just picturing Gavin taking a lesson or ten from Wedge in how he maneuvers around the increasingly fucked decisions of Daala, who's insane, and the other branch heads, most or all of whom are in on the Lecersen Conspiracy (depending on the exact point in time), to help the Jedi out somehow.
How, I'm not sure, but it seems possible to have him get in touch with people who had recently resigned their military ranks because of what Daala's doing, and get them to organize and point that sympathy for the Jedi and resentment of Daala in a productive direction. I also have the headcanon that Syal, who until this point had been leading the Rogues she inherited at the end of the SGCW, was one of those people. Maybe she could be given a role here.
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”the poor director” sorry they’re normally a 💩 fandom but im not on his side this time. i looked more into this & he defended casting mel gibson in a big way & DID he say her character was made to be like his mom, who is gay. he also has been creepy with fans like he took some young katie mcgrath fan to dinner ffs. hes a 50 something man who has been acting REALLY weird with those fans. this isn’t like sgcw. this man is fr gross & problematic af
Tbh, personally, fuck entire show for the only reason Gibson was in it. The fact he was in it, makes it all problematic.
Not going to dig into this, because I'm not interested. Fuck creeps, if they really are, but next time, provide some sources.
Case closed.
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the worst part is people in the notes talking shit about the 'morals' of supercorp. like supercorp is evil queerbait and the creators of sgcw suck ass but. how are u talking about morality when a terf created your characters.
like i know its a silly little fandom thing but maybe uhhhhh get a backbone?????
literally in what world is queerbait in ANY way comparable to TERFism, antisemitism, antiblackness, AND homophobia? these people live on a separate plane of reality.
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Supergirl/Supercop Fandom/Canon Things
Today, let's talk about some (odd?) things, that appear in the SG/SC fandom/fanfics.
[This is gonna be another long post, lotsa images/gifs, and I own nothing. Please be fair, I am aware it is all just fiction and I am just having a good time myself here. I do not mean to offend, but to share my thoughts and to entertain. I also acknowledge the lore/canon can be contradicting, but I tried to present the most agreed upon consensus on the below.]
- Kara sweats (like a human) ..?
...dude, girl can catch on fire and not feel it. 😑
Outside of greenK or red sun exposure... she didn't even sweat from physical taxation when she stopped that space-freighter or fought Reign.
That's not to say she can't sweat... given the right kind of exhaustion >.>
- Kara needs a lot of calories ..?
In 1x18 Barry Allen (meta-human) said, he needs to eat for upkeep (“About 10,000 calories per day”). At which Winn replied: "Oh, yeah. You've definitely met the right girl." referring to Kara.
And I think, that's where this misunderstanding comes from...
...Kara likes to eat. She does not need to eat.
Kryptonians under a yellow sun can sustain their upkeep from the yellow sun radiation alone. Less fun, tho.
It's also where the idea for this came from, somehow:
The argument could be made, that like many/some of her other senses Kara's sense of taste is more enhanced (that or original Kryptonian cuisine tasted really bland, which may or not be related to the planet not having much diversity to offer in the years/decades/centuries(?) before its destruction).
So, everything just tastes really good to her (except greens).
That and she probably just burns her intake away (as her sun radiation based metabolism may be that much more energy rich, which makes me agree with Kara having a generally higher body temperature), so she wouldn't gain weight.
Note: it's not the sunlight but the sun's radiation. Which permeates and lingers and hence Kara doesn’t need direct sun-exposure, and won’t drain her energy on rainy days. This sort of metabolism is called "radiosynthesis". (An Earth equivalent would not be a plant, but a radiotrophic fungus, as found at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.)
- Red sun radiation (or the absence of a yellow sun) immediately makes Kara weak ..?
(CWSG depicted that one wrong or at least not quite right on several occasions - taking the consensus of some 80 years of Superman / Kryptonian lore into account, SGCW imo does not win this round)
...Kryptonians are rather often likened to batteries, in the way they absorb sunlight radiation to charge them. That is why Kara isn't powerless at night or underground.
Various forms of Kryptonite disrupt this biochemical(?) procedure and either actively drain the Kryptonian's cell / cancel out the stored sun radiation or the counter-healing from the Kryptonite poisoning sap away the energy resources (sources are unclear on that). Red sunlight radiation offers merely a different / lower energy yield for Kryptonians.
On a planet with a red sun (or in darkness, or any other yellow sunless environment) a Kryptonian's power would reduce slowly as they expend it. The longer they are subjected to a red sun and the more energy they exert, the more diminished their powers become until they completely lose all their abilities and benefits from yellow sun radiation..
This (slow, or forced through power exertion - e.g. solar flaring) drainage also means, that Kara would need a yellow sunlight radiation source to replenish herself after prolonged red sunlight exposure to regain her powers.
...tying this in with the point before, their red sun Rao did not radiate as much or lesser energy, hence Kryptonians on Krypton (additionally to sunbathing?) or prolonged other red sun location dwelling / yellow sun deprivation naturally need to eat.
On that note:
- RedKryptonite =/= red sunlight (lamps)
One makes for an uninhibited (easily pissed off) Kryptonian, two does not (re-)charge their cells for powers.
- Lena aimed greenK cannons at Kara in 5x08 ..?
While that may have been Kara's (and Alex's) perception, the "Counter Measures" had been programmed by Lex and automatically started up when “Kryptonian X-Ray Vision” was detected.
When Eve asked Lena whether or not to deploy them, Lena (hesitantly) said yes to the "Ion Rays Cannon".
When Kara basically shrugged those off, the cannons rearmed themselves with Kryptonite and Lena IMMEDIATELY ordered Eve to cancel them, to "Shut them down! Now!!".
Lena got mad when Eve couldn't overwrite the protocol and pushed Eve aside to do it herself and breathed a deep sigh of relief when she managed to disarm them, barely in time.
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...trapping Kara with the Fortress' own (apparently pre-installed... we shall not kink-shame Kal!) greenK cage: Yes, that she did.
But, realistically, how else was Lena, a mere human with a (very mislead) plan, to gain a headstart over a Kryptonian?
While rude (and undeniably painful), the intensity apparently wasn't even set high enough to bring Kara down to her knees and there was a reasonable chance J'onn or someone else would rather sooner than later come and free Kara.
(Let's not forget, the DEO used and had more plans to take down / contain a Kryptonian, and more than once Kara herself - the very pilot episode even! - and we forgave both J'onn and Alex.)
- Lena is afraid of heights ..?
Might be a misinterpretation... Or true. I can’t really tell... But was never actually canonically stated.
In 2x01 Lena tells her helicopter pilot “I hate flying, I know statistically it's the safest way to travel, but still”. Almost crashing less than a minute later may not have helped her aversion. She did not seem physically tense during take-off before that.
Later on she is shown to neither mind casually standing on her balconies (even after being thrown off one) nor being carried by Kara.
And let's not forget this leap of faith:
...I also share the growing suspicion that Lena's fear of "traveling through air" may either be limited to non-Kara flights or possibly even have been cured at some point...
((On a sadder note, it's reasonable to assume, that Lena's aversion to (plane) flying may be due to her 4-year old self being dragged onto a plane right after she lost her mother, when she was taken from NFL Ireland to the US and before she got dropped by a complete stranger (Lionel) into a cold unwelcoming household, hence she may have come to associate flying with fear, abandonment, loss of control and uncertainty. And in part to regain some of that control she later in life got herself a piloting license.))
Fun fact:
Kara being portrayed as physically stronger than Kal-El in CWSG is actually lore-related (and kinda sorta maybe -pseudo- scientific).
Across most of the lore, Krypton was much larger than Earth, therefore had far greater gravity. Kryptonians had evolved to withstand that.
Even without powers, Kal's physiology/genetics would still make him stronger and more durable than any human. But, Kal was a baby and grew up on Earth. Kara was already a teenager, and her bones and muscle tissue (and her cardio-pulmanory system) developed stronger and more robust under that greater gravity, while Kal's most likely adapted to "only" withstand Earth's gravity (but then solar radiation, so he's still a Super) .
So, instead of it being the magic of "girl power", Kara having been old/matured enough to witness and remember her planet's destruction for once gave her a benefit...
It can also be argued, that Kara being at the verge of physical adolescence resulted in her body having had to "make due" with red sun radiation in its "informative" stages, and hence once on Earth, the yellow sun radiation affected her more (for the rest of her life).
Or the counterargument could be made, that this is false as Kal had more time on Earth, with his body developing subjected to yellow sun radiation, adapting more efficiently to it, that he should, in fact, be naturally stronger...
Still, Kryptonians do not necessarily have to be "heavier" than humans. If their cells have (evolved to have) a different structure, they could be stronger, more durable, more energy efficient and sturdier without being heavier (like 3D graphene materials, where an (artificial) particular geometric arrangement makes the (naturally) brittle material that much stronger, but with bio-matter/cells. Add more energy (solar radiation) and with that (electro-)magnetism into the mix and we may pseudo-science our way into explaining how Kryptonians become next to invulnerable on Earth.)
How Kara broke her arm from a mere fall that easily after she solar-flared is actually - dare I say - unrealistic... but, alas, CWSG.
...unless the CWSG writers went the route of this one older and weird explanation of why Kryptonians can fly, which basically says “Kryptonians have hollow bones, like birds. That’s why they can fly.” ... 😧...🤣(Yes, like that. No more, no wings or anything, just their bones are like birds’ and that’s why! ...like I said, the Super-lore is some 80 years old...)
All that said, yes, in AUs technically everything goes.
But, some things can actually be just as if not more fun, without ignoring canon or long standing lore... Maybe?
(Admittedly, the Superman and hence Kryptonian and Supergirl lore undergoes constant changes over the decades - mostly for the better, though, making more and more “scientific” sense. Yet, even within the run of CWSG there were some blatant contradictions. And... just, let's not talk about Crisis.)
I mean no harm and I also enjoy fics that chose a different take on the above mentioned.
I hope, though, this helps one or the other and may even inspire some.
Feel free to ignore anything or everything, though. I am not your boss :P
Stay safe!
Kue out.
#supergirl#supercorp#fandom#fandom fun#fanfics#pseudo-science#comic books#DCSG#Kue doing Kue-things#long post#none of the pics or gifs are mine
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Updates Coming Soon...
Hello everyone! Long time no see!
This semester was brutal, so I wasn't able to update the main story of Something Good Can Work. Luckily, I slayed all my finals, and a new chapter should come out by the end of the week! Here's a sneak peek.
In other news, since the holidays are coming up, I plan to release a SGCW Christmas oneshot! A special art piece will also be included. I even have the sketch ready.
Stay tuned for the uploads!
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so that happened
#this was just an excuse to paint skin#not only is the show bad but the lighting also blows#go figure#querl dox#brainiac 5#lena luthor#sgcw#supergirl
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some more soupycorps I couldn’t fit in the last post
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WLW Shows/Fans Taking HITS
Willow = canceled (sorta? now debatable)
Warrior Nun = canceled
Batwoman = canceled
Legends of Tomorrow = canceled
Charmed = canceled
Legacies = canceled
First Kill = canceled
The Wilds = canceled
Gentleman Jack = canceled
A League of Their Own = reduced/canceled
Killing Eve = BYG trope
Supergirl = lead ship queerbaited
And more... just over the last year or two. And some of these had solid ratings, mind you. Topped the charts of their streamers/networks, even.
"LEAD SAPPHICS/WLW = 🚫" - TV Execs/Hollywood
This. Is. Not. Okay.
#lgbtq#lgbtq representation matters#willow#warrior nun#batwoman#legends of tomorrow#lot#charmed#legacies#first kill#the wilds#gentleman jack#a league of their own#aloto#killing eve#supergirl#sgcw#kit x jade#avatrice#wildmoore#avalance#caillette#hosie#shoni#villaneve#supercorp#etc
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Conversation
William: Hi Kara! How’s the prettiest person in the world doing?
Kara *barely gives him a glance*: I don’t know.
Kara *casually turns to Lena*: How are you?
Lena: I’m fine.
Kara *turns back to William*: She's fine.
#supergirl#supergirl season 6#supergirl final season#supercorp#supercorp endgame#kara x lena#kara zor-el#kara danvers#lena luthor#incorrect supergirl#incorrect supergirl quotes#incorrect supercorp#incorrect supercorp quotes#incorrect quotes#(in)correct dialogue#sgcrack#supercorp crack#supergirl fandom#sgcw#sc
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lol friend i think you’re going to need to watch the sandman
i mean that’s, you know, probably? but also i’ve made that mistake before with sgcw and am still wondering if i hadn’t been a hell of a lot better off if i’d just enjoyed the pretty gifsets out of context instead
#i mean who are we kidding i’m definitely going to#i’ll let you know how that goes i guess!#ask me things!#anonymous#the sandman
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Can we talk about Lena’s Pulitzer speech for Kara? Like it was so intimate and emotional, wtf was the crowd thinking? 😂 In no way was that normal, even for best friends. This is lesbian activity no debate.
#supergirl#sgcw#supercorp#5x01#kara danvers#lena luthor#supercorp endgame#they’re lesbians your honor#gay activity#come on now
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