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#radfems arent feminists
lastoneout · 1 year
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I know the answer is "radfems and terfs poisoned the well" but I really wonder when the general direction of modern feminism went from "we can get men who otherwise wouldn't be on our side to change their minds by pointing out that men suffer under the patriarchy too, and that feminism isn't about switching the power balance or replacing the patriarchy with some sort of man-hating matriarchal society, but to destroy the system and harms ALL of us" to "actually I hate men and I think they should suffer and I should get to be a huge asshole to them 24/7 because I'm a woman and letting me be a horrid bitch to half the population with no regard for intersectionality is justice actually"
I just hate seeing how much terfs and radfems have completely fucked up entire branches of important conversations with their bullshit and knowing how it's not only hurting trans women, it's hurting ALL OF US and it's exhausting to constantly remind people of all the other radfem and terf dogwhistles only to see them getting spread around again and again disguised as progress
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tzarina-alexandra · 7 months
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Unfriendly reminded that referring to dating as a "strategy" or a "market" is literally dehumanising
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spookyradluka · 20 hours
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Radical feminism isn't a club anyone can join and self identify as. It's a political movement with actual theoretical tenets tied to activism and action. If you do not agree with these theories then you're not a radical feminist. Plain and simple
You can call yourself anything you want, it doesn't make it true and it doesn't mean other people are required to play along for the sake of your ~feelings~
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freespiritlilith · 8 months
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Lilith is female and her female penis KILLS THE UNRIGHTEOUS ❤️‍🔥 SMACKS YOUR HEAD BREAKS YOUR SPINE❤️‍🔥
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watching my sister put on makeup, shave, tan, wake up early to do her hair, talk about her weight, ask me if her hip dips are normal breaks my heart.
shes only 15, and shes already fixated on gaining male attention. at 13 she boasted about boys in her class staring at her ass. the clothes she wears are meant to make men look at her. and she says so.
female socialisation starts young. stop teaching girls to be objects.
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niiwa-angel · 2 months
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Trans Identified Males pretending their cross sex hormones side effects are a period are so funny to me. Because while there are some other symptoms or effects of a period that aren't the actual shedding of the lining, they are directly tied to that. And every little girl (adolescent human female) has had some pretty universal experiences surrounding her period that men cosplaying as women will never understand.
Hiding menstrual products in your shirt sleeve, sock, or pocket while walking to the bathroom because you're scared of people seeing it.
Having to spend your lunch money on a little box of pads or tampons because you ran out of forgot to restock your bag and the little vending machine in the girls room is broken or empty.
Gym teachers, particularly male ones but I've had female gym teachers do it too, telling you that your period pains are no excuse to be lazy.
Sitting though a final test or exam in an overflowing pad and not being able to go do anything about it till you finish
Boys blaming your period for any emotion you may be feeling, or any perceived slight against them. Wouldn't go on a date with him? Bitch must be on her period
That awful feeling between taking a painkiller and waiting for it to kick it. Bonus points if you feel like in the time between, the cramps get worse
Honestly, unlearning all the lies and old wives tales is a trip in and of itself. Yes you can swim, you just need a tampon. No, boys can't smell that you're on your period. No, you are not dumber just because you're on your period
Learning about primitive practices other cultures force upon menstruating women and girls and being told you need to be grateful, as a girl in the West, that you aren't being subjected to that. Any complaint you voice will be stopped by someone reminding you about menstrual hits in Nepal. No period products in the girls rooms? Did you know girls in a third world country die in menstrual hits? Bet ya feel stupid now!
Toilet period as a pad because you ran out or it started unexpectedly and you weren't prepared.
Being marked late or even given detention because you were late to class. But you can't go to the bathroom in class because you should have gone during break, which is 5 minutes long and it takes much longer than that to change a pad or tampon.
Ladies, feel free to add more, I know I didn't cover it all. I also covered it from a Western perspective because that's what I have.
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I got asked privately in a DM if I was a radical feminist because of the times I've talked about little bits of misogyny here and there, and because I made one joking reference to Andrea Dworkin and that mention of bestiality in one of her most controversial works (which, given her body of work is definitely saying something)
I could go into a long diatribe about how I enjoy reading perspectives and opinions of people I disagree with, and how while I understand the grievances of radical feminists and some of their philosophical viewpoints, I would never call myself/identify as a radical feminist (the same way I've read multiple right-wing books and despite understanding their perspective, disagree and would never call myself right-wing)...
But I'll ask one simple question: what kind of radical feminist would have a yandere/dc writing blog where she writes all about wanting fictional characters to diddle her lmao 👀
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rad-claid-plaid · 11 months
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how do i support other women despise other women hurting me and each others? women hate women, my mother choose dick over her daughter, girls at school bully me and men think they better than women and women help men hurting women. i don't know how to trust other women.
I understand, anon. I've had a lot of women and girls throughout my life hurt me, too. It's especially damaging when other women hurt you on behalf of men. Peers, friends, mentors, relatives, doctors, strangers. You might think, "I thought we were on the same side?" Especially when they're ones who are supposed to protect you, like mothers or sisters or friends. And it's so hard to wrap your head around (at least in my experience)
I think that realizing that having a goal of liberation of ALL women, not just the feminist ones or the supportive ones, was very important for me. It includes women who don't like you, it includes women you might hate. A lot of women support and enforce patriarchal ideas on other women, consciously or unconsciously, both as a way to try to prop themselves up in the eyes of men, and also "keeping them in line". Whether they acknowledge it or not, many tenets of radical feminism are threatening to the status quo, and therefore the regular lives of everyday women (and of course every man and the power they hold). Think about how much they defend shaving and makeup and heels, tooth and nail. If we collectively raised consciousness of women everywhere about these patriarchal standards, what's next? Turning on her husband, her father, her boss? It crumbles the facade. And with that, the women who are surrounded by men face immense backlash because even an ounce of feminism in a woman they have wrapped around their fingers is dangerous to them. And so, often without realizing it, women will enforce the same standards they themselves are held to. They're not responsible for the standards or the main source of enforcement, men are, but they still have a hand in it.
I think when women tear each other down in relation to men, if a woman tears you down with the shadow of patriarchy puppeting her hands, she might not see it or realize the core implications of her actions. Sure, in her mind she might just be mean to some random girl. It might bring her up a rung on the ladder in the eyes of an individual man or two, but in the grand scheme she's just making less work for the men to do in their enforcement. This is the sort of patriarchy fueled hate, where men need women to turn on each other to keep them distracted from the real problem.
I know I'm speaking about this very broadly. I have a lot of jumbled thoughts on this.
I think that another thing to keep in mind is that women are individual people too. Some people just fucking suck. Some people are bullies, they're hateful, they're neglectful, they're mean, they're spiteful, they're cruel, whatever the case. This includes women. Some women are just, well, shitty. They're included in my goal of liberation from misogyny, but that doesn't mean I like them personally.
I wish I could trust every woman, I wish that we could have common goals in regards to patriarchal standards and crushing them. But unfortunately, as half of the population, there are all kinds of people from all walks of life, and some of them are shitty to you. I try to be open but not naively trusting them right off the bat. Guarded, but still trying to find common ground, and give her a chance. I extend a branch, so to speak, and have no expectations of them accepting it or not. I also try not to walk into every situation with false expectations that just because they're women, they'll have kindness and consideration for me. I meet a lot of people that are rude and immediately hostile to me because of my appearance, or my nonconformity to femininity, or my awkwardness. It fucking sucks, honestly. But there are also tons and tons of deeply kind, caring, supportive women. Tons of neutral women. Dividing them into categories isn't helping any of us. We all have common ground in being women.
I do want to argue your statement that "women hate women". I don't think that's necessarily true. I think women are socialized to be suspicious or competitive with other women, specifically to keep them in line. When large groups of women come together and find commonalities, not even getting to the next step of starting to dismantle oppression, that's dangerous to men. They talk. They realize that other women are just like them. That they have been tearing each other down for no goddamn reason. Women are turned against each other to keep them from realizing who's riling them up and setting them at other women.
Another thing to consider is patriarchal sub-structures within the larger framework of misogyny. Things like patriarchal religion. If you are raised within these structures, your entire world is built with these concepts. The women within these frameworks generally believe they're doing what's "best" for their peers or their daughters, but in reality it's hurting them even further.
With being jaded about being hurt in the past, you have to be careful not to let misogyny cloud your vision. It's been loaded and installed into all of our hard drives, even as feminists. It might be easy to say, oh, a bunch of girls from x group were horrible to me, all x girls are mean and vapid. That's where you really need to dig down. Put up the metaphorical stop sign in your brain. WAIT! Not all women in X or Y group are of a characteristic. That's the little misogyny worms in effect. They want you to hate a whole group of women, and turn against them, boiling them down to whatever negative characteristic that has been assigned to them. It doesn't benefit anyone except men to negatively stereotype these women.
I'm not quite sure what my grand point is here. This is a complex set of feelings to navigate. Unfortunately, women all over have internalized misogynistic standards and unfairly hurt other women on behalf of men. And sometimes women are just shitty in general. And so I can see how you would feel jaded about support for all women. I think you can blame those women for the hurt they've caused you, the pain and trauma of those who should be lifting you up instead of tearing you down. And I think you can also acknowledge that women's liberation includes ALL women, even ones who are shitty or have hurt you, because it ultimately benefits every women and makes the world a safer place for us. That there ARE wonderful women out there who care about you and women as a whole.
Keep your eye on the ball and never stop trying to connect to other women and build a community or support web, for your sake and others'.
This is a long post, but I'd love to hear thoughts on this from other radblr women, especially those with more experience building community with others in real life.
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feral-radfem · 1 year
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I'm begging everyone on the internet to realize that being a part of a minority demographic and talking about your own personal experiences doesn't make you an expert of that subject, that's called anecdotal evidence. It is one of the least valued forms of evidence there is.
Being born gay didn't deposit all of lesbian history into my brain, being born a woman did not make me an expert in feminism and being part of any other group didn't/wouldn't either. While it may spark an interest in you for the subjects that you were affected by, you actually have to put in the work and read studies, historical literature, and statistics to be an expert or really have anything more than a call to Authority. Just so y'all know.
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jennrypan · 2 years
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I think..we should take the word patriarchy away from radfems.
Seeing that word tossed around like candy too many times to prove a point no one asked for.
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marcos--budt · 10 months
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JUST SAW SOME CRAZY MISOGYNY AND MISOGYNOIR ON MY DASH SO NOW YOU ALL HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH 10 FEMINIST POSTS IN A ROW😘
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aleutianofclean · 5 months
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genderkoolaid · 5 months
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Just happened across absolutely yuck take:
https://www.tumblr.com/bichoplaza/730303719824130048/like-men-arent-usually-into-the-nonbinary-thing
I don’t even know what to say to this, to be honest. Hoping you could give a more comprehensive breakdown, if you feel so inclined.
funny enough I already have this person blocked. they're a TERF, for context, so when they say "man" they're talking about people assigned male:
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so the post is basically just typical"trans people assigned male are only trans to hide their misogyny" misandry. but its extremely funny to act like
people assigned male being nonbinary and using they/them pronouns is accepted, as if they aren't constantly rebinarized
trans people assigned male are never accused of misogyny, nobody ever views them as being dangerous misogynists
but like. modern radfems really really want to be Radical and Transgressive against patriarchal society. but they've essentially based the entire current movement off of Trans Bad (with the supporting figure Sex Work Bad). so they have to convince themselves that the patriarchy loves trans people and society at large is extremely fond of and protective over trans people, so they can say things that aren't even slightly based in reality like this. its like when they say "well why do you hear so many stories about transfem predators????" as if they are not the ones popularizing those stories because they are obsessed with the idea of transfems being predators. they don't want to face the fact that their views on trans people are totally in-line with patriarchal thoughts on trans people, and that trans identity is not protective against accusations of misogyny or misogynistic violence. because facing that means that their transphobia isn't radically feminist as much as normally patriarchal, and the traditional radfem theory of transness has literally no basis whatsoever in reality
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crestiliafem · 2 months
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im sorry if i see someone making a good point then you comment "op is a terf" like its the curse of the nile or something i will laugh my ass off.
"women shouldn't be forced to do stuff"
"yeah i agree!"
"nvm op is a terf"
"kys op youre stupid and your point is shit anyway women should be forced to do stuff and i know that because youre a massive terf and swerf"
PLEASE
most radical feminists ive seen include trans men in their feminism, AND SEX WORKERS.
WANTING TO PROTECT SEX WORKERS AND GET THEM OUT OF THE INDUSTRY IS A BIG THING IN RADICAL FEMINISM.
its almost impossible for a radical feminist to call herself a radical feminist and be anti-sex workers.
as in the people getting exploited, not the industry or people who are exploiting them.
radfems are against the people exploiting them and the industry, theyre against sex work not the workers, so the term swerf doeent even make any fucking sense.
i swear to god the particular group im talking about, the throwing a tantrum over op being a big fat terf, theyre just harming themselves.
they think not reblogging or interacting with terfs is more important than sharing stuff thats useful to raise awareness.
i could say children shouldn't be abused and should have good lives, and if im popular enough, ill get at least one "op is a terf" comment.
AND IM NOT EVEN A RADICAL FEMINIST.
AND THE SO-CALLED TERFY PROPAGANDA IVE SPREAD IS SAYING THAT THERE SHOULD BE FEMALE-ONLY SPACES, AND TRANSWOMEN ARENT FEMALE.
it is so very absurd but disappointing at the same time how many people have allowed themselves to be brainwashed, and actually look at the posts of "terfs" and "swerfs" and get threatened and worried in real life.
imagine the level of dissonance and lack of socialization you have to achieve to reach that.
get better, honestly, just get better.
because when you start thinking women (a group oppressed for their sex) are the bad guys for speaking out about all the misogyny in every corner of the world, and start believing they have no right to speak like that, and feel personally offended, then you are the problem.
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rose-teeth · 1 year
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some of yall on here are so..,,,, unnecessarly harsh to other women - women who arent "radfem enough" "feminist enough" even libfems, etc etc - to the point of borderline cruelty with other women and i really dont get it. yes, it hurts when women betray the movement it hurts when women uphold the patriarchy it hurts when women dont get it. but some of yall take this to the point of ideological purity very similar to tras. if a leftist feminist movement is to survive, and get anything done, it will be through unity. and for unity we ought to have empathy and compassion and understanding and care for each other - this ought to be the starting off point for anything, and the spirit behind it.
u know. i think malcolm x said it quite well. "dont be in a such a hurry to condemn a person because he doesnt do what you do, or think as you think. there was a time when you didnt know what you know today"
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this isn't very feminist but i need to vent because its genuinely making me mad. i hate when in arguments about why women are better than men radfems always mention "oh well women have better orgasms and live longer" so what??? we live longer yeah and for what? so males are able to brutalize for longer? yes we're more likely to survive a famine but for what? to be starved anyway because resources are always in favor of men? and yes we have better orgasms but how is that an adventage?? most women dont even ever orgasm so whats the point? and how does a better orgasm help women in any way? better orgasms arent gonna prevent women being banned from education or public life. what a dumbass argument. women took the biggest biological Ls of all time. we cant even defend ourselves against males because we are so naturally weaker that even an average unfit man can kill a muscular, fit woman. femaleness is misery from birth to death
I think you're thinking about these things in a way that only takes into account whether they're helpful under patriarchy. Instead of just appreciating them as individual characteristics that have their own value by themselves.
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