I do NOT think it's fair for Zutara shippers to hate Zukka for a chunk of the fandom popularizing bad tropes and being mean-spirited like sorry not sorry but you're calling EVERY Zukka shipper misogynistic racists and queerphobes as if you're not the ones who came up with 'Fire Lady Katara' and 'Momtara x Dadko' and mocked Aang for trying to emphasize with Katara's mom dying with her by comparing it to him and Appa being the only living beings from what happened to the Air Nomads and call him all sorts of vile appalling shit that should NEVER be said about a fucking 12 year old because he's feminine and silly and not the perfect love interest 24/7 and takes pride in his tibetan heritage AND stripped Katara of all her accomplishments and nonconformity and layers and anarchism because you see her as worthless if she's not Zuko's arm candy while also making degrading comments about her sex life because she had kids with a guy you don't like with added anti-biracial kids propaganda as a bonus AND are so unsympathetic to Mai because she's Zuko but a girl so you're not into her that you unironically think she's a wench plus don't even actually care about Mailee seeing as it has way more evidence than Zutara on every level yet you only see them as a sidedish to prove you don't hate women AND even Zuko dosen't get speared because mans deadass ended the series with everything he'd ever wanted INCLUDING being a better dad than Ozai was to him to AANG but none of it matters apperantly because he choose what was best for himself after 16 years straight of abuse instead of some random ass crush you THINK he had for not even technically a year.You do NOT get to talk shit about Zukka stans,they're just a normal noncanon mlm ship fanbase with a small side of bad eggs,Zutaras are an entire rotten eggs ile from a supermarket that's been abandoned for almost 20 years because it never actually opened but old people who complain about 'kids these days' keep thinking it'll open one day despite it being announced a million times it never would and saying it's elder abuse in response

Me resting well in peace knowing that Zukka has surpassed Zu/tara as the most popular ship in the ATLA fandom

@firebenderfrankie and I have a theory that they’re going to make Zukka canon in the live action.

And let’s just say I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s why Br*ke left. It’s either this, or Sukka is the only romance. Kataang would just be creepy with how they’ve casted it, as would Zutara and Maiko.

Throwback to a scene from Game of Thrones... only with Zuko and Sokka.

The Sun was shining down on him as he sat lotus style in front of Sokka, who was doing the same. They mirrored each other as they both held their arms up with a sword laying across the backs of their wrist. Their shirts had been removed before they dared each other to this ridiculous game. It was out of boredom when Sokka suggested they spar. But this was the warmup round. Whoever lowered their arms first lost while the winner chose what weapon to fight with. But Zuko knew how to quiet his mind and focus on everything else. "Are your arms hurting yet?" Sokka asked while Zuko remained unbothered by the other man. "Are yours?" He cracked his right eye open to see if Sokka showed any sign of giving up. "No." There was a slight shake to Sokka's shoulders while Zuko remained in control of his calm state. Besides the heat of the sun and the small drops of sweat on his brow, he was actually holding up well. "Then I'm not feeling anything either." The firebender inhaled deeply with a small smirk on his face. "I'm content."

This is a Zutara fic, but it could easily go Zukka.

I just love writing Zuko and Sokka as besties...

Hey, I get it. They work together, too.

Zukka is best ship,NO CAP

You seen the fanart its cute.

The boiling rock episodes were great at estabilsh the ship as good. HECK! They teased the ship as fan service here and there throughout the episodes cause it's GREAT! Zukka fans ,you know I ain't wrong.I respect if you just don't like the ship. I'm just giving you a suggestion and saying what i think about it.

ALSO IT SUPER CUTE AND GAY

Thank you for listening to my ted-talk!

Some Zukka shippers need to understand that “Zutara shippers spend so much time arguing that their ship should be canon. Zukka shippers don’t care if our ship is canon or not because we’re above the ship wars” isn’t the sick burn they think it is.

Like YEAH obviously. Zukka is a ship that has almost no standing in canon in the first place. So many Zukka shippers admit that they are drawn towards the dynamic because they just like to see the characters together (there’s nothing wrong with liking a ship for this reason).

But the entire reason that Zutara is still as popular today as it was 15 years ago is because the narrative strongly suggests that it would be canon. If ATLA was a bottle, many Zutara shippers believe that the wrong cap was screwed on in its final moments.

Zukka is a ship that is not backed by the narrative while Zutara is heavily backed by the narrative. So of course our conversations are going to revolve around different topics.

It’s not “above the ship wars” to complain about Zutara shippers gathering too much evidence that our ship should be canon, it’s actually inserting yourself into the ship wars.

It’s just interesting to observe the differences in how people treat Zukka vs how they treat Zutara. Because I searched Zutara on TikTok to look for some edits and the comments were filled to the brim with people saying “But Katara belonged with Aang 🥺” or “How can you ship Zuko with her after Mai said such a romantic line?” Or perhaps the most insufferable of all “Maturing is realizing that Zuko would’ve thrown himself in from of lightning for ANYONE” as if that’s some revolutionary reading of the text. It’s so irritating how this kind of behaviour is…accepted by the fandom.

But you don’t get that with Zukka, instead you see people gushing over how sweet they are together, hailing it as a wholesome and unproblematic ship, praising artworks of it with positivity and appreciation. It’s difficult to find much negativity under Zukka posts, you won’t see people saying “But Sokka belongs with Suki 🥺” or boldly going on a tangent about how another ship is SO much better. I saw one person praise Zukka as the most unproblematic ATLA ship because of how little conflict there was about it, that you wouldn’t see the same hostility among that fandom as you might with Zutara.

But there’s a reason for that which has less to do with Zutara shippers themselves, and more to do with the harassment and hostility they face on all sides of the fandom. Fans will go out of their way to antagonize Zutara shippers, they’ll feel brazen enough to leave backhanded or outright hostile comments under Zutara posts and art, they’ll interject their shipping opinions in spaces where nobody asked and condescend Zutara shippers by framing them as shallow or delusional for shipping it.

I think Zukka is admittedly cute, and they definitely have their haters, but the difference between it and Zutara is astounding. It’s incredibly frustrating to watch this phenomenon play out, especially when these shippers carry themselves with a kind of false moral superiority that can only be found in shipping discourse.

I now dare all of the "Zutara is colonizer x colonized trope and Zuko is AWFUL and an ABUSER and TOXIC and EVIL and EDGY and RACIST and borderline killer" people to go under all the LGBT+ content that is shipping Zukka and say the exact same crap. I DARE YOU. GET A GRIP, PEOPLE.

my favorite thing abt being a multishipper is ignoring the canon ships :3

This post quite funny to me.

No offense for Zvkka fandom, but there's a reason why this ship don't have a lot of essays and meta analysis even though it's popular. This ship exist just for fun, nothing more than that.

Essays and meta analysis not really necessary because this ship has no evidence whatsoever that it will become canon. Like, what do you want to proof if it's just two random characters you ship?

In case of Zutara (because it seems like this post is satirizing Zutara, or maybe not), I think all Zutaran are aware that Zutara just fanon and we ship Zutara just for fun too. But, we also have many reason why we stand with this ship, not only they looks good together.

Essays and meta-analysis make our reasons valid, while we put proofs from the show because we're not making this up. Beside, even some ATLA writers fought for Zutara. Apparently, that's not the case with other fanon ships in ATLA, moreover Zvkka.

Well, it's not our fault that Zutara have a lot of materials to to confirm our argument.

Man why're Zutara shippers so pissed about Katara being in love with a gnc dude and Zuko getting most popularly shipped with his male best friend.Fr they way they talk about Aang and Sokka is like they're five seconds away from calling them multiple f slurs and Katara's canonically a punk anyway so if you honestly her taste in men are the ones who conform to gender roles,please stop projecting and go read a punk history book or at least watch a video easy about it

You can definitely tell that Katara is indigenous,that Aang is of a lesser known type of asian descent(tibetan)and that Zuko is east asian.Because the fandom constantly adultifies and sexualizes Katara despite her being 14 and makes fun of her for taking her trauma seriously,calls Aang ugly,erases his positive traits to make him look like a regressive bigot and minimizes the fact that he's a direct victim of race based violence and infantalize Zuko to pretend he dosen't have flaws due to wanting to date him,make him 'the braincell' to an objectively smarter darker skinned character(Sokka)and calls his country feminist even though they're literally colonizers.Sounds about white

I don't know who needs to hear this but shipping Zukka ≠ being a Kl/ance shipper

One thing that bugs me every time i rewatch tlok is that one scene in book 3 where tenzin tells korra about the time when she was little, explaining how the red lotus tried to kidnap her. So, he, korra's father, sokka, and zuko went to rescue her and stopped the attack, locking the red lotus in their respective prisons.

Although my little zukka brain thrives with the fact that zuko is supposedly just there, chilling in the south pole post-retirement or whatever, i really think it would have been much better if insted of him, it was katara the one fighting alogside the others. It would have made so much more sence because one- she is one of the most powerful waterbenders on earth therefore totally has the power and skills to stand againts the red lotus, and two- yes, you can argue that she might still be greeving over her husband's passing but i think if sokka, zuko and tenzin were able to be there and help in the battle it wouldn't be much of problem for katara to be with them too. Aang is best friend and a family to both sokka and zuko and tenzin's literal father. If they were ready and willing to fight, so could she.

And isn't trying to protect korra also trying to protect her family in some sort of way? Katara was clearly very enthusiastic about teaching korra waterbending as a child, why won't she stand up against the red lotus for her, too?

It's disheartening to see how both the comics and tlok seem to sideline katara's character as if her contributions were not significant. Like she just isn't that important in the first place. It’s just awfully depressing tbh.

I hate to do this but someone reblogged one of my posts and I scrolled down their tl, hoping to mutual, and saw this mess:

Do people actually somehow watch the show and not see every single moment where Katara blushes or plays with her hair around Aang, gets shy at the thought of kissing Aang, is clearly attracted to him in Book 3, gets jealous of any girl that’s also attracted to him.

Or Aang comforting Katara several times: hugging her in the Serpent’s Pass and validating her feelings to the point she cried, comforting her when Jet died and getting the whole group to hug her, telling her how she inspires people and gives them hope, literally tells her she’s a hero??

Aang and Katara literally having several disagreements, Aang’s perception of Katara changing over the three seasons, him agreeing with every single idea she had to flat out rejecting her advice, then wrongly blowing up at her after zuko and the rest were flat out racist to him?? Aang telling her to confront the man that killed her mother after she rejected his advice??

Mind you Katara can barely tell Aang likes her back until season 3 and clearly shows feelings for him way before he starts initiating romantic acts with her after TWO seasons of her touching, kissing him on the cheek and hugging him unprompted 💀 not to mention “forces non-romantic feelings on her” when she is the one that said he was her family after a week of knowing him?? what does that even meannnnn

And I’m supposed to believe that these people actually watched the show, paying attention to… KATARA?

On top of that, to say (not pictured) the only person to ever comfort her was the guy that attacked her several times 💀 and he didn’t even do anything??? used Sokka’s trauma to come up with a plan he didn’t even agree with (nor did he ask him, like you can ask him to retell the most horrible moment of his life, but you can’t ask him if taking his sister to confront the man is a good idea? you can’t even ask him if he wants to go??? that is literally the most horrible writing i’ve ever seen but i digress). on top of that doing it for the most obvious ulterior motive of getting her to forgive him. standing there while she bloodbended and almost killed a man, not knowing she just swore off doing the former weeks ago because all he knows her to be is hostile until that moment. He doesn’t know Katara to be someone that expresses love and kindness until she forgives him but apparently this is how you comfort someone over every single moment of Aang comforting her that I listed above. okayyyyy

Just to contrast for contrast’s sake, Aang:

1. offers to take Katara to the North Pole with zero ulterior motive,

2. gets her mother’s necklace back with zero ulterior move,

3. helps her destroy a factory with zero ulterior motive…

4. helps her get Haru back, stands up for her to Pakku, calls her Sifu when she complains, comes back to save her home and gives himself up, comes back to save her in ba sing se and I’m sure a million things I’m missing, all with literally zero ulterior motives at all.

Meanwhile antagonist does one nice thing for female mc with shady undertones that might as well be overtones and now he’s allegedly better than her friend who helps her several times for no reason other than the fact that its something she wants.

Like am I supposed to believe that these people actually like Katara or are media literate at all? I feel like I’m going insane 😭

There are two types of zukka shippers

1. The ones who are really chill people and just here vibing the fanarts and fanfics

2. Those kind of people that want to involve Zukka to to ZK vs KA ship wars and/or shitting for zutara for some reason (the amount of times that people mentioned zukka on every ZK vs KA shipwars is quite a lot actually)