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#mileven goes against El’s entire character arc
booksandpaperss · 1 year
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There is not NEARLY enough appreciation for how pivotal it was for El to be able to stand her ground against brenner multiple times while he was using all of his fucked up manipulation tactics and constantly triggering her past trauma.
And then, like the queen she is, el actively chose to not forgive him and say she understood him just bc he was dying. All she said was “goodbye, papa.” Acknowledging their relationship for what it has been, and refusing to let him guilt her into putting up with his abuse anymore. That was SUCH a powerful scene and we should talk abt it more bc as someone who’s been abused, I actually CRIED I was so proud of her.
So TIRED of everyone only focusing on the Mike part of El’s s4 arc, she was so fucking amazing this season and finally found her independence from the manipulative, and in brenner’s case ABUSIVE, men in her life. I love Mike but this ain’t abt him anymore. I’m done with El’s arc being abt him in any way.
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Season Three First Thoughts
Overall: Regardless of everything I say, overall I really liked the season.  I feel like they did a good job of advancing individual character arcs and introducing/putting new character pairings together. Now for my brain dump of thoughts:
•Opening with Mike and Eleven making out made me uncomfy cause regardless of how long they’ve been dating they’re still just kids (young teens?)
•Discounting this, I hated the direction they took with Hopper on this. I think he was a total prick. Before when he was overprotective it was because he cared about El and that’s was clear but this time around they made him seem more like a typical washed up 80′s dad (à la Ted Wheeler) 
•I’m not entirely mad about Hopper’s attempt to throw Mike off El because it brought the El and Max (elmax) friendship sequence
•I absolutely LOVED everything about El and Max in this season. What Max taught El about being her own person was so so important. One of the main reasons some people have a problem with Mileven is because they’re so co-dependent it’s unhealthy for kids and for El’s personal development (I agree!!). This storyline continued through the season of El realizing her worth on her own and how she should be her own person was probably one of my favorites
•Ima say it, Mike was a dick in a lot of moments this season, especially in the beginning with Hopper, sue me. However he is a teen boy and he still has a lot of growing up to do so it’s excusable
•I really hate how little Will was used this season (I may be biased, this blog is called “will-byers-appreciation” for a reason!). I feel like he was only there to feel left behind by his friends but come on the boy has been through enough 
•I really don’t like how in season two Mike was the number 1 Will supporter and he always was there for him even when Dustin and Lucas had no idea was was going on and this season he basically blatantly didn’t care about Will. I know months have gone by but still, Mike shouldn’t have let himself have gotten so distracted by his girlfriend that he forgot his friends, regardless or not of if he loves her. 
•Mike saying something along the lines of “you do don’t like girls Will” (more gaycoding?? who knows if we’ll ever get what we want)
•I feel like the Duffer brothers tried so hard to kill Byler this season and I’m :/
•Everything including Karen and Billy was disgusting, which goes without saying, but was filmed and edited in a really compelling way in that we really didn’t know what was gonna go down so the duffers did a good job working out how to portray that storyline 
•Speaking of Karen, I loved her pep talk to Nancy. Karen stepping up like that was one of the highlights of the show for sure 
•Nancy: every single scene in the Hawkins Post made me want to punch all those middle aged white men god they were such Assholes. The show did a good job of showing Nancy’s frustration and building the misunderstanding conflict between Jonathan and Nancy
•Jancy shippers don’t come for me cause maybe I didn’t notice anything but I feel like there were no real chemistry filled Jancy scenes? They just kept saving the other from getting beat up tbh
•I feel like a lot of the season was taken up but really long fight scenes which made some parts drag a lil
•Time for my absolute favorite part of the season: Steve, Dustin, Robin and Erica- the Scoops Troop
•I absolutely loved this whole dynamic and I found myself waiting for these scenes. Dustin really shone this season and I loved every minute of it. Erica was an amazing addition!! Dustin and Erica is the winning nerd friendship pairing to be honest
•Steve and Dustin!!! Incredible, beautiful, I love them. I feel like they reverted Steve back to a dumbass at the beginning of the season compared to him being kind of emotionally deep after the Nancy breakup in season two. It makes sense given he had his heart shattered and he built a wall back up in hopes to protect himself and find someone new. Dustin pushing this whole Steve and Robin thing is deliciously ironic now which is great. 
•Steve and Robin: Best new dynamic. The entire bathroom scene as they’re coming down from being drugged was absolutely beautiful. I started tearing up. Steve being emotionally vulnerable and explaining his heartbreak and bearing his feelings for Robin just wrecked me. Then when he slid under the stall and looked at Robin and she explained how she never liked him and how she likes girls was so perfect. Dumbass Steve said “But Tammy Thompson’s a girl” and then realizing and being fine with it. You can see how scared Robin is and then how relieved she is when Steve is accepting. This is what’s coming out is like. The moment of panic is portrayed really well. 
•Steve! Having! A! Badass! Smart! Lesbian! Best friend! Who! Is! Cooler! Than! Him! Instead! Of! Getting! Another! Half-Assed Love Interest Story Line!
•I am worried though that’s the duffer brother’s are giving us an openly gay character hoping to “satisfy” us so they can keep queerbaiting Will rather than making him gay
•The whole Murray x Alexie storyline wasn’t amazing and I loved every second of it. I was genuinely heartbroken when they killed Alexie he was shaping up to be one of much favorites
•Billy’s “redemption” at the end where El breaks through to him while retelling the childhood scenes he showed her and then he goes against the Mindflayer was expected but the way they did it was so heartwrenching I’ll give the obvious turn of events a pass. Hi, seeing Max cry over Billy Killed Me, that poor girl
•Finally, Hoppers death. Fuck you stranger things team. No matter how annoying Hopper was this season, how could you guys do that’s to El?? To us?? That letter just about killed me, I started loudly sobbing halfway through and I didn’t finish till twenty minutes later. I’m also not 100% sure he’s actually dead just saying...
•There’s more but this is already So Much so I’ma leave it at this as I literally just started typing and I haven’t even proof read it. I’m so sorry I didn’t mean for this to be so long but
•PLEASE! If anyone wants to discuss anything I said here or just the season in general please message me 
TL:DR- I loved the Scoops Troop storyline, especially how they handled Steve/Robin. I loved the Elmax friendship and El’s character development independent from Mike. Alexie was basically my favorite. They should’ve used Will more and I’m mad they basically killed Byler 
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Season 3 Thoughts
!!Spoilers!!
Things I liked about Season 3
- I liked how they actually didn’t chicken out of El dumping Mike, seems like they actually listened to our complaints about their relationship.
- The comedy was absolutely hilarious this season, I found myself giggling and snorting uncontrollably A LOT.
- El and Max’s friendship was absolutely beautiful and exactly what I wanted. Not forced or in a way toxic. Thank you Duffers!
- Robin being the 80’s lesbian queen we deserved.
- Robin and Steve slowly becoming best friends. And not becoming a couple like the show tricked us into thinking so.
- Karen Wheeler actually being a mom to Nancy. Seriously why does no one talk about that scene more? She’s not the best mom but at least she’s a better parent then tED (Or Lonnie if you can call him a parent.)
- The emotional scenes were just as amazing as ever, the raw emotion on each characters face gave me chills and had me sobbing like a baby.
-Erica, I loved her, absolutely loved her. Everything she said was golden.
-Dustin and Suzie’s duet. iT WAS ADORABLE FIGHT ME.
- Hopper and Joyce acting like a married couple.
- Alexei. Just him in general.
- Every time we saw the Flayed or the Mind Flayer in fleshy form. It just gave me absolute goosebumps every time. And honestly the fact that the Mind Flayer is made out of human flesh and when you think one of those people could’ve been Will? yIKES.
- HOPPERS NOTE REALLY GOT ME MAN.
Things I didn’t like about Season 3
- Whyyyyyyy on eARTH. Did they have to start with Mileven making out? Watching it alone was super uncomfortable. Like Come on.
- There was no sibling bonding! I was really hoping for some big sister Nancy moments with Mike. There wasn’t even a Byers brothers scene!
- We still didn’t get a lot of interaction between Will and El. I was really hoping for them to be friends too ;-;.
- Mileven was handled so poorly in this season, like honestly Mike was an idiot, did he even properly apologize to El about lying.
- They did Will dirty. I mean they made him suffer for TWO SEASONS, only to have him look scared for the remainder of the season, and occasionally touch his neck and say “he’s here.” Or something. There was no conclusion to his emotional breakdown! Nada! They did my boy dirty!
- Nancy and Jonathan’s story arc felt really forced to me.
- Joyce Standing up Hopper.
- Lumax didn’t really feel.... real. I mean don’t get me wrong I loved their interactions but most of them were more humor, I don’t think we even got a kiss from them did we?
-What the hell is Nancys hair?
- Mike barely acknowledging Will or Dustin. Even Lucas was concerned about them. With Will I can slide because In the end he did try to apologize. But Dustin? He barely cared! They kept trying to call him which didn’t work, they could’ve at least biked to his house quickly to confirm that they weren’t there.
- Like What Murray said; the bickering between Hopper and Joyce got old. Real fast.
- To me at least, it felt Like Lucas slowly turned into the comic relief. Which completely goes against his character. Like cmon was that Cola scene really necessary?
- Why the hell did no one do anything whenever El was being attacked? Literally when she was being choked by Billy everyone just kinda stood there terrified. Nancy and Mike seemed to be the only ones who helped her until the final battle.
- I was really hoping for Kali to come back, or at least get a tease that we’ll see her again or at least a mention of her name. But nope. There was nothing. Like COME ON! You can’t introduce a character like that and not bring her back, especially when you made her seem more important!
- They did Joyce Dirty, in fact they have done her dirty for they entire show. LET HER FIND LOVE DAMN IT.
- I already expressed in another post how I didn’t like Mike this season, but still I really did not like Mike in this season.
- Why did they treat the Mileven break up as a joke? In fact why did they treat Mileven like a joke in general?
- When El said “I love you too” in the last episode, I didn’t feel anything. Straight up blank face.
- Did Dustin’s mom notice her son was even missing? Did she even try to call the police? What about Steve, Robin or Erica’s families? Were they not concerned at all that their children were missing? Jeez are Joyce and Hopper the only good parents in town?
- I felt like Murray was a tad unnecessary.
- is it weird that I didn’t find the Russians even a little intimidating?
Conclusion: I liked Season Two better.
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