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Luz is the character of all time, I swear to Titan
She starts the series off canonically weak, at least from a physical standpoint, but by the time the season one finale hits she pretty much solos storming a prison. And not only does she make it out of this incredibly dangerous situation alive, but despite probably having to fight through a lot of guards to reach Eda, there are only two people in that entire building who she isn’t able to immediately mop the floor with. 
What's more, look at the state they’re in after she’s done with them! 
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Casual reminder that she did this back when she only had four spells at her disposal, only three of which were combative!  
And despite this clear badassery, she isn’t OP or the strongest character in the series, barring temporary titanification. Heck, she isn’t even the strongest member of her immediate friend group! Pretty much all of her big fights (Ex. Grom, Belos rounds 1 & 2, the Abomiton in EE, heck any of her fights aside from the Stonesleeper in EaE) she either lost or needed someone’s help to finish/simply survive. 
And yet she managed to trick a man who mastered manipulation centuries before she was even born, twice, and became the champion of a god. 
But also she once got a magic cold that made her think she had snake arms.
Her adoptive mom is a proud criminal who introduced the son she’d been raising for 8 years as her roommate, and is in love with a nonbinary rebel leader/band geek. Her birth mother is a trekkie who once beat up a flat earther with a flip-flop while she and her snake-sister watched. Said sister spent months stealing her identity, and once mispelled her name in a letter to her mother. 
She met god, and he was wearing sweatpants. Her little brother is the son of god, and accidentally predicted her death in a one-off joke before almost getting them both crushed to death by a snappily dressed lizard later that day. 
She meets her first real friend, who is one of the most powerful witches in the entire series, and less than an hour later they’re sneaking her into school so said friend can cheat on a project. 
Her second real friend, who is also one of the most powerful witches in the series and a massive human nerd, took out a Coven Head by accident while having a breakdown, and she had to hear about the whole thing second hand. 
She shot her future found brother/trauma buddy off of an airship, then saved his life less than an hour later. They speedran the ‘enemies to friends to siblings’ pipeline but with 10x the trauma, and were both murdered by the same centuries-old puritan witch hunter. 
She challenged her future girlfriend to a duel before she knew how to use a combative spell, and both of their teachers made them unintentionally cheat. Said future girlfriend also kissed her on the cheek, and she still spent a whole day freaking out about how to ask her crush on a date before said crush beat her to it seconds before she got the question out. 
She has some of the coolest moments in the entire series. One of her most heartbreaking scenes takes place under the tree she and her girlfriend made when they defeated a nightmare monster with the Power of Love™. She considered going to prom in an otter onesie.
For 99% of the series, she’s at her most powerful when armed with nothing but a (most likely pickpocketed) notepad and a pack of crayons.  
What a character. 
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childlikegoblinqueen · 9 months
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Noceda Sibling HeadCanon:
Luz, Vee, and Hunter are all into nerdy things, but Hunter has least experience with the properties.
Obviously he latches onto whatever is his fave so when he sees The Princess Bride for instance, he blurts out lines and quotes like the movie is brand new.
When he explains to confused folks who can’t understand how the pure nerdy kid has only JUST seen this classic movie, Vee and Luz blurt out,
“HE WAS HOMESCHOOLED IN A CULT!”
Eventually Hunter is so used to this that he starts telling people this all on his own. But it’s completely deadpan and no one is sure if he’s being sarcastic or not.
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no but you don’t get it when luz is with vee they’re the noceda sisters but when luz is with king theyre the clawthorne siblings and when luz is with hunter theyre the noceda brothers but theyre also the noceda sisters do you get me???
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kayray-art · 1 year
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OMGGGGDHEJDJDND ZENO’S DN !!!!! HUNTER NOCEDA TRUTHERS WON !!!!!!!!!
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THEY REALLY ARE THE ONLY FAMILY EVER I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
edit // i’m adding more photos of the noceda family to this bc i’m still not over them
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prismaticiris · 8 months
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Masha: Veeeeee???? *Hic* W-Would-Would you still love me i-if I was a worm??? *Sob*
Vee: ...
Vee: Dude...
Luz: Did you guys get ANY sleep!??
Vee: uuuuuuuhhh...
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theaceofarrows · 1 year
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Luz: [to Amity] Now Vee, Hunter and I are all in therapy, whenever we have a sibling fight™ we almost always end up quoting our respective therapists at each other to prove that the other two are wrong
Amity: I wonder if I could do that with Ed and Em...?
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imhumanguysiswear · 1 year
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Considering that Vee is a predator (and a pretty good one at that considering her species was brought to extinction because they were THAT good) she probably would have instincts deeply wired inside her, such as hunting smaller animals, things that run away, ecc.
She is for obvious reasons horrified by that part of herself and managed to completely hide it from her family until Luz decided to test the idea that Vee is like a cat (she purrs and hisses let’s see what else she does) with a red laser and Vee just pounces on it and then, after realizing what she did, retreats to her room and passes the rest of the day upset at herself hidden on the top of the bulk bed
Luz and Camila obviously notice the strange behavior and come to see her, Luz to apologize because she didn’t realize it would upset her and Camila just to make sure her new daughter is feeling well, Vee is genuinely taken aback by the fact that they aren’t seeing her as a monstrous murder machine (“but I tried to attack it! If instead of a red laser it was a small animal I would have killed it! I’m dangerous!) but instead they are understanding and promise her they all would find a healthy outlet for her instincts (“bottling up them will only make things worse, I can’t let you go around hunting small animals (Vee just shudders at the thought) but I’m sure we can find something to direct them toward”)
The house is after that suddenly filled with cat toys and nail scratchers (did y’all see her nails? She needs something to keep them at the right length and a nail clipper won’t do it) and at least once a week they all go to the arcade to just watch Vee go absolutely feral on the whack-a-mole and destroy every set record until it’s just her
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zyrafowe-sny · 1 year
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la familia Noceda Fic Masterlist
Here are my finished TOH fics that focus on the Noceda family - Manny, Camila, Luz, Vee, and Hunter. These were all written before WAD and most were written before FTF. All are one-shots and under 6k words.
Remember me (dance in the graveyards): A grief-focused fic that begins with Manny's diagnosis and ends with Dia de Muertos at the Noceda household about two or three years after WAD.
Blood Brother: After a somewhat rough start, Hunter and Vee discover they have a lot in common and decide to become siblings. Takes place during Thanks to Them.
Intervention: A Luz-centric fic that features executive dysfunction, depression, and an overdue conversation between Luz and Vee. Intended as a missing scene from Blood Brother, but could stand alone.
World's Best Turkey Carver: Camila asks Hunter to carve the Thanksgiving turkey but some things get lost in translation.
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darkcrowprincess · 1 year
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*these are my headcanons for Luz and Vee's full name*
Camila yelling in anger for Luz,she is in trouble: Luzita Elena Noceda! Ven aquí!
the gang teasing: uh-oooooh your in trouble
Hunter interested because Luz's full name is so pretty: Your full name is Luzita Elena?
Luz blushing but getting up because she knows the full name is serious: *To Hunter* Shut up, coming Mama!
Vee:*giggles at Luz*
Camila still angry: Valentina Maria Noceda! Tú también!
Vee: Oh no.
(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)
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sorryiwasasleep · 1 year
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Today’s thing to cry about from ‘Thanks to Them’:
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this photo of Vee and Camila on the wall in Camila’s bedroom
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branmuffins22 · 1 year
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i still think its beyond sad that we didnt get to see vee and luz interact even ONCE in thanks to them. not even in the montage showing all the lost episodes stuff they did while the witches adapted to the human realm! i was expecting something like a shot of luz and vee standing in front of a bulletin board of Stuff I Did While Impersonating You, but we didnt even get that!
the ABSOLUTE CLOSEST we got was vee putting bunny ears behind luz in one of the photos in the album! blasphemous!!
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gakriele-lvs-blog · 1 year
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For Vee, creating her own identity has left her with a terrible bittersweet feeling for months
On the bright side, for the first time in her life, she can express herself without the fear of breaking character, distorting someone else life, revealing some parts of her true self, or accidentally slipping into some old habits from her time in captivity. she could finally proudly say her name, build up her own dressing style, develop her own hobbies, all of it was like a dream come true.
But consequently, the first time she goes out to try to hang out with her friends, and realizes they don't recognize her in the slightest... something slightly broke inside of her.
From there, she was faced with a dilemma that keep her awake at night. On one hand, she could try to befriend them again but this time as Vee, which would mean moving on and forgetting about all the memories she forged with them through all of those months at camp. On another, she could reveal the whole truth in the hopes of receiving both acceptance of her true self, and forgiveness after she lied to them for months. And she is absolutely terrified of both options.
She keeps all of those emotions bottled up, and nobody is none the wiser about her inner struggles... Everyone except Luz. After the first month, before she has to go to school, Luz speaks with Camila to let Vee go to school as her, not because of laziness, but because she can understand to some extent the kind of pain that Vee is feeling, and refuses for that to go any further.
Unknowingly to them, Hunter is the first one to confront Vee about her situation. They spent the entire night talking with one another about... a little bit of everything (they drank hot choco and give each other lots of hugs). By the next day, both can easily say that the last night was the most therapeutic experience in their life. And although Vee is still terrified of the possibilities... she makes up her mind and decides to tell them the truth.
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Micro Writing Notes: Noceda Siblings!
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Vee finally arrives in "person" in the story, and there is already a bit of tension between the siblings. History of that will come (breadcrumbs!)
In general though I imagine they get together and instantly regress in age by doing things that they never got to do in actual childhood. For Luz it was because she was an only child. For Hunter and Vee it's because their childhoods were co-opted and they were denied anything safe and happy in lieu of servitude.
So I imagine they might make it a point to ask Camila to go on a road trip where they can ask "Are we there yet?" every few miles, then start messing up each other's hair so the other sibling can yell "MOM! HE/SHE IS TOUCHING ME!!!!!!!!!!"
I also imagine that they have a Noceda trauma sibling specific ritual that they have for everytime they are in Gravesfield at the same time.
Any guesses as to what it is? It will show up in the next chapter.
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I dont think i reblogged that post that brought up the idea but none of luz's siblings are like. Siblings with each other. Like king and vee have different adoptive parents and the two sides have never met. Luz is the only thing connecting them. Hunter and king have the relationship of an overworked spca volunteer and a feral cat that hates him and ill let you decide who is who. If hunter and vee have met before it would be as a prisoner and warden.
Luz has a different dynamic with each of them which are different facets of sibling vibes. With king shes the much older sibling who feels a sense of duty to be a good role model. With vee shes both the kid who just got a new sibling and doesnt know what to do about it and the sister that wants to beat up your bullies. With hunter she has the cain instinct. These intersect ofc in luzs relationship with all three of them but none of them really match the current relationships (or lack thereof) of these three with each other.
(I guess hunter and vee might bond in season 3 now that theyre living together. And vee and hunter can bond with king in post canon fanon. But rn i dont get sibling vibes from these three.)
All of this is to say hunter king and vee are only connected rn through luz. Theyre all individually siblings with luz but theyre not siblings with each other. Technically theyre all sibling in laws.
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mebssann · 1 year
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Luz and her siblings!
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caramelldansenu · 1 year
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How I thought the reveal was gonna play out
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Amity: Luz is it true? You helped belos?
Luz: HUNTER'S A GRIMWALKER
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