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yallemagne · 11 months

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Luthur (Lucy/Arthur) Propaganda

I'm writing this with all the pent-up rage of an entire year of seeing "Lucy's so dumb, she should have picked my favourite suitor" posts and "who should Lucy have chosen?" polls that always result in practically no votes for Arthur.

This is not an anti-Jack or anti-Quincey post by any means, though it may come across as defensive. It is just a pro-let-Lucy-choose-for-herself post. And yes, letting her choose for herself even includes letting her be monogamous when she has made the conscious decision to remain monogamous.

So, to the proposal descriptions--

Seward tries to hide his anxiety by putting up a front of sternness. From how Lucy describes it, it sounds like he's negotiating a contract:

He spoke to me, Mina, very straightforwardly. He told me how dear I was to him, though he had known me so little, and what his life would be with me to help and cheer him. He was going to tell me how unhappy he would be if I did not care for him, but when he saw me cry he said that he was a brute and would not add to my present trouble. Then he broke off and asked if I could love him in time; and when I shook my head his hands trembled, and then with some hesitation he asked me if I cared already for any one else. He put it very nicely, saying that he did not want to wring my confidence from me, but only to know, because if a woman's heart was free a man might have hope. And then, Mina, I felt a sort of duty to tell him that there was some one. I only told him that much, and then he stood up, and he looked very strong and very grave as he took both my hands in his and said he hoped I would be happy, and that if I ever wanted a friend I must count him one of my best.

Sounds like he hardly popped the question so much as stated: "I would be honoured to have you (I need you I need you I need you I need you) as my wife. If you don't love me back, I will die."

This proposal comes across as very neurodivergent to me. He goes into it thinking mostly about what he wants from Lucy and how good the marriage would be for his mental health, not stopping to consider if she's already seeing someone (literally the man who introduced them) or just maybe... that he's putting too much of a burden on her with this style of proposal. This approach would work better with another no-nonsense B, but Lucy is overwhelmed. He didn't think of her feelings in the matter because he was too busy schooling his own emotions so he wouldn't screw it all up. It comes across as very scripted until he sees that he's upset Lucy-- that is when we get a glimpse of his care for her. But then he's back to his bullet points of "but could you love me one day? do you love another now? on a scale from one to ten, how would you rate this interaction?"

Lucy gets through Seward's entire proposal without getting carried away and writing about Arthur instead, but with Quincey--

I suppose that we women are such cowards that we think a man will save us from fears, and we marry him. I know now what I would do if I were a man and wanted to make a girl love me. No, I don't, for there was Mr. Morris telling us his stories, and Arthur never told any, and yet—— My dear, I am somewhat previous.

She certainly finds Quincey charming, but she cuts herself off to talk about Arthur. While she momentarily thinks that telling adventurous tales would win a woman's heart, she says that it didn't win her own. There's a sort of peacocking going on with Quincey prefacing his proposal with tales of his adventures. It's very much like Seward's stoic attempt but with far more confidence and pizzazz.

Mr. Quincey P. Morris found me alone. It seems that a man always does find a girl alone. No, he doesn't, for Arthur tried twice to make a chance, and I helping him all I could; I am not ashamed to say it now.

Quincey "found [her] alone". Now, before, she said "Mr. Morris was telling us his stories"-- who is us? I am guessing that perhaps Lucy's mother or someone else was sitting in as a chaperone? And then Quincey found an opportunity to talk to her in private?

Again, she drifts off talking about Arthur while she's trying to explain Quincey. "Arthur tried twice to make a chance"-- my best guess for what this means is that Arthur has tried to have un-chaperoned time with Lucy twice before in order to propose to her, but he never succeeded despite her attempts to aid him.

Which makes this all so much funnier? Some joke that the Suitors probably arranged it all, but this hints that Arthur has been trying his damndest to propose, but the one day he actually gets a chance to, he finds out his two friends proposed to her first! Those dogs!!

I do not know myself if I shall ever speak slang; I do not know if Arthur likes it, as I have never heard him use any as yet.

Lucy interrupts her "haha the silly American talks silly American gibberish" with "would Arthur like it if I spoke this way?" Gah, she's so in love with him. It's funny that she says she's never heard him use slang considering she's already mentioned "Dress is a bore." which she even called slang.

Well, he did look so good-humoured and so jolly that it didn't seem half so hard to refuse him as it did poor Dr. Seward; so I said, as lightly as I could, that I did not know anything of hitching, and that I wasn't broken to harness at all yet. Then he said that he had spoken in a light manner, and he hoped that if he had made a mistake in doing so on so grave, so momentous, an occasion for him, I would forgive him. [...] And then, my dear, before I could say a word he began pouring out a perfect torrent of love-making, laying his very heart and soul at my feet. He looked so earnest over it that I shall never again think that a man must be playful always, and never earnest, because he is merry at times. I suppose he saw something in my face which checked him, for he suddenly stopped, and said with a sort of manly fervour that I could have loved him for if I had been free...

She remarks that Quincey's more light-hearted nature makes him easier to refuse than Seward. However, she finds it harder to reject him when he drops the act and starts behaving more earnestly. She finds it easier to imagine loving him when he's being sincere. She doesn't have this same thought with Seward because, unfortunately, even when he snapped out of his legal negotiation of the potential marriage, he still kept himself emotionally guarded through the rest of the interaction.

Why can't they let a girl marry three men, or as many as want her, and save all this trouble? But this is heresy, and I must not say it.

I must say... Lucy here is not saying "I want a harem of men.". Stop. Just stop saying that she is. That interpretation has led to every single adaptation that brands her an insincere cheater who strings along men and deserves to be punished by the narrative. Just stop. What she is expressing here is guilt at not having an option that would please all parties involved. She's been raised as a people-pleaser, but in this scenario, there is no choice she could make that wouldn't lead to someone being hurt. So, she makes the decision to follow her heart rather than her guilty conscience.

And think, just earlier, Jack planted this seed of insecurity by saying that he'll be upset if she does not love him. And then goes even further to imply her loving another robs him of his hope. It makes it so that, even when Quincey is more gracious in accepting her refusal, she can't help but beat herself up for practically destroying these men's lives (hyperbole, of course) all for her own happiness!!

Lucy clearly displays polyamorous traits. She laments that, if she did not love Arthur so much, she could love Quincey (rip Seward). But she has chosen not to explore those feelings. Part of her cutting herself off while writing about Quincey to talk about Arthur could be subconsciously reminding herself: "nope, there is no chance with him, I want Arthur". She compares the two constantly as if to remind herself she made the right choice. There's also her love for Mina, but she has plausible deniability in this era and can claim that as just classic girl love.

But when she considers a woman marrying "as many men as want her" it is not reflective of her being polyamorous because she doesn't have this thought out of "I love these three men enough to marry them" but "I feel guilty about being loved by three men at once, and I have to repay the favour somehow, but I can't". She does not say "as many men as she wants" because it's not about the woman's feelings but about the feelings of the men that surround her. But you know what? She showed agency when she picked the man she wanted and didn't bow and pick the man who would be the most devastated upon being rejected, and I'm proud of her.

Lucy is incredibly brief when describing Arthur's proposal, but let's. just. think about this. Previously, she has tried to hold back her overwhelming love for Arthur in her writing to Mina (she failed, lol). Other than wanting to be discreet, she explains:

My dear, this quite upset me, and I feel I cannot write of happiness just at once, after telling you of it; and I don't wish to tell of the number three until it can be all happy.

She doesn't want to taint her happy feelings with bitterness about how "oh, I'm so horrible and selfish for picking the man I love! I don't deserve to be loved by anyone!" And even then, she goes into a bit more detail in her post-script:

P.S.—Oh, about number Three—I needn't tell you of number Three, need I? Besides, it was all so confused; it seemed only a moment from his coming into the room till both his arms were round me, and he was kissing me. I am very, very happy, and I don't know what I have done to deserve it. I must only try in the future to show that I am not ungrateful to God for all His goodness to me in sending to me such a lover, such a husband, and such a friend.

Such a friend. Before this, Seward and Quincey were not friends of Lucy's. They were acquaintances that knew her through Arthur (though she does not explicitly state this about Quincey, so she could have met him somewhere else?), and upon being rejected romantically, they swore friendship to her. Before then, they saw her as a potential bride.

But Arthur was already a friend to Lucy. They have been close for longer than she's known either of her other suitors, and while they'd never said the L-word (love) to each other before, I think what wins Lucy's heart is that Arthur is genuine with her. We don't get to see it (she teases us!! how dare!!), but that feels like the most plausible thing that would set him apart from Seward and Quincey. Now, the other two are honest men (we see it when they comfort her), but they both initially put up a front to impress/entertain Lucy. Meanwhile, Arthur doesn't bother with that. He comes into the room, and she's practically already in his arms! It's so effortless with him. She doesn't have to imagine herself being happy and in love with him because she already is.

#dracula #dracula daily #re: dracula #lucy westenra #john seward #jack seward #quincey p morris #quincey morris #lucy x arthur #arthur x lucy #luthur #may 24 #wrote this like a few nights ago lol #just had to

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disco-tea · 2 years

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Bram Stoker was a fanfic girlie, kicking his feet on his bed and writing in his story outline like “I’m going to make the blood transfusion in my horror novel SO romantic”

#Dracula Daily #lucy westenra #arthur holmwood #lucy x arthur

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ljf613 · 7 months

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Lucy and Arthur were supposed to get married in a week.

#dracula daily #dracula #thoughts #lucy x arthur #lucy westenra #arthur holmwood #i'm sad now #all queued up

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mzannthropy · 7 months

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Listening to Re: Dracula entry for 20 September, hearing Arthur cry on Jack's shoulder over Lucy's death makes me even madder at the all the adaptations that villainise the gang to push Dracula x Mina ship. In the 2006 TV film Arthur had syphilis!

#dracula #dracula daily #arthur holmwood #lucy x arthur #the 2006 film has a good cast that has to be said #mypost

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littleterrypottermix · 2 years

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29th September, the day Lucy and Arthur were going to get married - AND THEY DID.

Lucy’s soul finally went to rest, and Arthur had his farewell kiss sealing their eternal union. They could get closure for their relationship.

#dracula daily #dracula daily september 29 #lucy westerna #arthur holmwood #Lucy x Arthur

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miseru346 · 2 years

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In addition to my previous art, What if Lucy manage to get all her 3 suitors? Almost Van Helsing, cause you know, he joked about all of them being poly, he got jinxed lol

Van Helsing managed to elude them despite being bitten (He has plot armor) and got Mina’s help cause he thinks Mina is the only one left suited to end Lucy’s vampirism without getting caught by the seduction (or he thinks lesbians don’t exist, JKJK, he’s open minded, so he probably would accept that lol)

Why not ask Jonathan? Van Helsing insists cause he’s dramatic like that.

There’s not a lot of fanfic of these 4, I’m not asking for anything specific when I say that, but if anyone wanna make a fanfic, especially AHEMS one... *side eyes*

#dracula #dracula fanart #dracula daily #lucy westenra #jack seward #john seward #quincey morris #arthur holmwood #mina harker #van helsing #sep 29 #what if #fanfic writers who wanna do it please tag me lmao #lucy x arthur #lucy x jack #lucy x quincey

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warrenwaskilledbyadeer · 2 years

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I forgot I made this one!! And now I’m a couple weeks late, argh. But this is Lucy and Arthur on one of their dates, in the entry where Lucy talks about them rowing and playing badminton and stuff

#please excuse the glare from the lights it was a rush job i'm sorry #dracula #dracula daily #lucy westenra #arthur holmwood #lord godalming #lucy x arthur #arthur x lucy #bram stoker #dracula daily late #late dracula daily

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detectivenyx · 2 years

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my favourite ship dynamic is universal donor x universal recipient

#lucy x arthur #kuzupeko #saimatsu #- nyx (they/she)

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nooowestayandgetcaught · 2 years

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Sweetness Turned To Cruelty

read on AO3

~1k, Arthur Holmwood/Quincey Morris/John Seward/Lucy Westenra, T-rating, Bram Stoker Novel (1897) Canon AU

Summary: There is no hope in escaping Lucy.

#dracula #lucy westenra #arthur holmwood #quincey morris #john seward #dracula bram stoker #dracula book #dracula novel #lucy x arthur #arthur x lucy #arthur x john #john x arthur #quincey x arthur #arthur x quincey #john x quincey #quincey x john #whumptober #whumptober 2022

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mainlysarcastic · 7 months

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“I’m totally normal about this ship”

Dear reader, they were, in fact, not totally normal about this ship

#merthur #gajevy #gruvia #nalu #merlin #arthur pendragon #fairy tail #gajeel redfox #levy mcgarden #grey fullbuster #juvia lockser #juvia loxar #natsu dragneel #lucy heartfilia #bulma x vegeta

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zjpg · 8 months

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just a girl

summary in which a young driver strives to prove that she's more than just a girl, meanwhile also struggling with girlhood itself.

pairing f1 grid x fem! driver! oc , arthur leclerc x oc , lando norris x oc , charles leclerc x oc (platonic) , pierre gasly x oc

warnings half smau half written, misogyny, swearing, alcohol, mentions of death and mental health (this will grow as the series goes on),

note i don't feel like translating french, 1. i'm lazy and 2. i don't want it to be wrong and then confuse everyone. so if a comment or text (or just sentence in general) is italic it's in french :) ignore dates and times on posts, also ignore any typos and grammar mistakes - pierre is also aged down a year, so he will be born the same year as charles - everyone is still legal age in every scenario tho so plz don't make it weird lol - please support by reblogging and commenting, it would be appreciated 🤍

send in asks and let me know how you feel about the story, specific chapters, character, and literally anything else🫶🏻

chapters

-> intro to (important) -> 45 years -> lockdown -> P1 -> birthday -> shopping -> dodo -> boo -> happy holidays -> christmas in monaco -> photo creds? -> abs -> politics -> respect -> you -> cruel -> nails -> unprofessional -> birthday girl -> platonically, of course -> silly season -> mistake -> tolerate it. -> isn't you -> deep talks -> last night. -> everything.

taglist: @love4lando @fairiepoems @leilanixx @ietss @charli123456789 @ayoanna @enhacolor @be-your-coffee-pot @alixnsuperstxr @vellicora @tpwkstiles @lndonrris @willowpains @gaslysainz @blueanfield @cixrosie @ssararuffoni @buffysummrsx @r0r1-47 @i-love-scott-mccall @hockeyboysarehot @cixrosie @izzy.norris @bonmatisbarcalona @mimolikescookies @skatingiswalkingincursive @lwstuff @blupblupfish @r0r1-47 @brumblebee @haechanslovur @champagneproblems17 @extratragic @bborra @rmeddar123 @lennetlive @s-a143 @valel07 @irxnspxder @luisie @inloveallthetime @happilysammy @cha-hot @chaoticmessneutralplease @azriel-the-shadowsinger

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add yourself to the taglist :)

#˗ˏˋ LUCIE. ❝ just a girl ❞#just a girl #formula 1 #f1 #f1 grid x reader #f1 driver oc !!!!#f1 imagine #f1 fanfic #lando norris #charles leclerc #arthur leclerc #pierre gasly #f1 x oc #f1 x reader #f1 x female reader #formula one #f2

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mrsmarymorstan · 2 years

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People saying that Van Helsing isn't taking blood types into consideration during the transfusion is ridiculous because he has clearly considered them very carefully!

There's him, with Blood Type O (Old Man Scholar)

Jack with Blood Type B (Bitchless Boy Blunder)

Arthur with Blood Type A (Athletic Sexy Man)

And Lucy with Blood Type AB (Astonishing lack of Blood)

#Dracula Daily #Dracula #abraham van helsing #Jack Seward #lucy westerna #arthur holmwood #Arthur X Lucy #Jack & Lucy #Lucy & Van Helsing #Jack & Van Helsing #morstan reads dracula

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the-angriest-bunny-of-the-fandom · 2 years

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the five (5) horsemen of 'ayo does this not seem fruity to you??'

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aashiyancha · 2 months

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Valentine's day is coming up so I drew a bunch of couple photos. For characters who don't have a partner in my fancomic, I just drew them with some sweets☆

Notice how I drew these in sticker style? Am I planning to make stickers? Idk who can say~~

#rune factory 5 #rune factory #rf5 #murakumo x radea #alice x scarlett #cecil x fuuka #martin x ryker #ares x reinhard #lucy x priscilla #rf5 lucas #ludmila x margaret #rf5 livia #rf5 beatrice #aashi doodles #meg was deffo with arthur at some point which is why i decided to not have her with bea and with ludmila is just so fun of an idea imo #i can't bring myself to pair lucas with anyone cuz it would be like he's cheating on ari even though they're not in this universe #or are they?#valentine's day

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heartfilia-source · 5 months

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@fireforce_game × FAIRY TAIL ☄️🔥🚒

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yallemagne · 1 year

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You are right turning Dracula into The Lover is so danm needless!

-"Oh we need vampire/human romance with the vampire's tragic end!" Why make a convoluted romance with Drac and Mina? The book has served you what you seek on a silver platter. All you need to do is fill in the gaps of the epistolary novel to play with. Flesh out Lucy and Arthur and how they got closer. Keep Lucy as she is to make me cry for her doom. Dracula dying makes me go oh no. A rapist serial killer just died. Tragique.

-Want a vampire/human pair where the human chooses to walk with the vampire into eternal twilight? Let Jonathan complete his blasphemous vow. Actually focus on his trauma and how much he feared and hated vampires and how he chose certain death over vampirism, to give to his oath the gravity it deserves.

-Oh and want to also do "the vampire is suffering from being cursed by their God"? Mina is right here. "I was betrayed. Look what your God has done to me" whines 1992 Dracula, motherfucker you started it! Mina didn't! And look what He did to her brow! She who always walked the path of righteousness. She was betrayed. She is the forsaken sinner you want!

Sorry for the essay oh gosh

Literally.

Instead of rushing Lucy's death so they can get to their fake ass romance, adaptations could just,,, make Lucy's death its own story. Draw it out! Have Bloofer Lucy be more lucid and have her beckoning to Arthur be in earnest. And in this case, the trope of the vampire realizing at the last second that murder is wrong and begging their lover to put them out of their misery is less convoluted because Lucy knew that murder was wrong when she was human and Dracula certainly fucking didn't, not if we're going with the stupid Vlad the Impaler route. Lucy had an inherent goodness that was robbed from her in death and Dracula was always a cunt even when they try to rewrite him to be sympathetic.

I'm seconds away from just writing a story where Dracula's death doesn't cleanse Mina of her vampirism and Jonathan goes down with her, I swear. But my artist brain keeps saying I gotta design their vampire selves first aaagh. You can also just have Lucy take a big bite out of Arthur without being hampered by VH. It might be anticlimactic, but hey, I wanna see at least one fanfic where it happens. There's only ever fanart.

Like the whole "God fucked up my life" thing is whatever. Supposedly human Dracula (who is always goddamn Vlad Tepes for no good reason) had a wife who died and decided to make that everyone else's problem. I fucking doubt this ol' thirteenth-century bitch saw his wives as anything more than property. You know who doesn't see their spouse as property? You know who would actually grieve their spouse's death? You want the tragic vampire grieving their dead spouse?? MINA HARKER IS RIGHT THERE. Maybe Jonathan dies and Mina just fucking goes feral because that was the last damn straw and now she's going to murder God.

Your essay is appreciated, I was just vibing.

#queuing this post but be aware that I DID answer it right when I got it bc of course I'm up so late #someone tell me when arthur/lucy gets a proper ship name #please they need one #dracula #dracula daily #arthur holmwood #lucy westenra #arthur x lucy #mina harker #mina murray #jonathan harker #jonathan x mina #jonmina #update #people ask me things

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