The Collector & The Great Titan: The Owl House (Theory: Possibly Past Allies?)
OK, I completely get that The Collector, despite the extremely brief appearance, is absolutely terrifying.
Not because of anything he does so far, but because of what he can do (and has no qualms about doing).
Never mind that he makes monster Philip, AKA Belos, go splat without a smidge of effort.
Or that he MOVES the moon to end the eclipse!
But, I seriously hope he doesn't become something to be put down or trapped again in Season 3. Because he seriously feels just like a mini-child-god who has no concept of how terrifying he is and the difference between playthings and people. It does not feel malicious in the slightest. And I was honestly horrified for him at how giddily happy he was to get out of that mirror and have a playmate/friend.
Sure, I might also be grasping at straws here, but he also never actually destroyed Belos, just basically flicked him away with zero effort, despite the betrayal. And the moment King reminded The Collector of their promise, he did actually, immediately, hold up his end of the bargain and stop the draining spell.
On another tangent, is there perhaps a chance that -- like Belos made everyone believe over decades that wild magic was what the Titan was against -- The Titan and The Collector might have actually been friends, or at least allies, in the far past? But then, after they disappeared, some people, like the Titan Trackers, came to believe that The Collector hunted Titans?
I admit, that, after the episode "Echoes to the Past", after theories abounded that what the Titan could be fighting here in the mural was something The Collector made or did -- or The Collector himself -- I was sure too that The Titan and The Collector were natural enemies.
Not to mention, The Collector's appearance in Eda's dream in "Knock, Knock, Knockin' on Hooty's Door".
Who'd ever think he was anything but a Big Bad after this episode? As in, the person who likely trapped The Owl Beast into a curse, or created the curse in the first place.
And after "Edge of the World", with the Titan Trappers saying their entire purpose was hunting and killing Titans, apparently in the footsteps of "The Great Huntsman" (who we all figure was The Collector), it definitely feels like The Collector could be nothing but a villain -- and possibly the reason that The Great Titan even died?
And I was aaaaaaalllllllll aboard this theory -- until The Collector was freed by King from the mirror and I saw the way he behaved. He was terrifying, sure -- but in the way you'd be terrified of a toddler if he got hold of a very sharp knife and ran like the wind with it (except here, you're not really worried for The Collector's personal safety. That "knife" of his is definitely more dangerous to others. And he knows how to use it).
But, when I was checking out screenshots and images from "Echoes to the Past", I noticed this:
This is the entrance to where King was born. Look at the stars -- or sun, even -- around the symbol King wears as a necklace. And the moons, while full instead of crescents, could also be related to The Collector (as stars and crescent moons seem to be his motif). Besides, look at the motif on one half of The Collector's robe in Eda's dream...
(I don't know about you, but that seems to be the sun on one side, a motif that looks a lot like that multi-pointed sun or star on the dome of the entrance to King's birth-cave/lair.)
Now, why would this motif be on King's birth-lair if The Collector and The Great Titan were enemies? And for that matter, Lilith proved that this island was nowhere on the map, and she's a historian and explorer who's scoured most of The Boiling Isles both out of interest and to complete whatever Belos told her to do while she was working for them.
However, Eda just accidentally stumbled upon this place when she needed shelter. And it doesn't appear that anyone else has ever found this place since -- or before -- either. And the second time they go there, it's only because of King that they find the island at all.
Now, King finding the place is logical -- his blood probably allowed him entrance. And the others could follow because they were with him. But Eda? She was alone. She should have no way to find this island. What possible connection could she have had to King before she'd even met him?
Well, how about her Owl Beast curse? And what's connected to her Owl Beast form that's established from her dreams? The Collector! And allowing someone or something with a connection to The Collector to enter your child's cave if you were sworn enemies seems sus, don't you think? But what if they weren't enemies, but friends? Makes a lot more sense then, doesn't it?
(Now, as with any theory, this could totally be off. But I do think it's a possibility. 😄 What do you think?)
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Lillith and literally everyone in the Emperor's Coven: Hunter is such a spoiled brat
Hunter, being ab*sed by Belos: Nah I'm just special
Like Lillith take a moment and consider the fact that Belos manipulated you and took advantage of your people pleasing tendencies and stuff. Like you were so terrified of showing up empty handed.
Like imagine if you were raised like that. Being a child soldier no less. A child shouldn't have the scars that Hunter does.
Just saying.
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I need Belos to come back, so he can be defeated again and both the former leaders of his coven can bond over trauma and grief or whatever
I did this at midnight two nights ago, sorry if it’s a bit messy lol.
(ID Below)
[ID: A sketchy digital comic drawn in red on a white background.
First panel: Side view. Lilith is kneeling and reaching out to Hunter, who is leaning against a rock and clutching his arm. Hooty leans over to look at him, from the Porta-hooty backpack. All three look concerned. Hunter asks, meekly, “Is it over?”
Second: A 3/4 front shot of Lilith, still reaching out. Her fist is closed this time. She is frowning. Hooty looks at her, also worried. Hunter, off screen, asks “Is he…?”
Third: Lilith, same angle and pose, opens her hand. She and Hooty manage to force stressed smiles. Lilith replies, “Yes… it’s over. He’s gone.” Hooty looks over at Hunter and smiles, trying to be reassuring.
Fourth: A 3/4 shot of Hunter. He is still leaning on the rock and clutching his arm. Tears are in his eyes, and he says “Ok.” Doubtful of that, Lilith repeats, questioningly, “Ok?” Hunter says, “No. That’s good.”
Fifth: Same angle and pose. Hunter manages a smile and tenses. More tears well up. “That’s… that’s great!” He pauses to sniffle. “It’s…!”
Sixth: Same angle. Hunter crosses his arms across his chest to hug/brace himself. He does that… hiccup sob. Tears start to slide down his face.
Seventh: Same side-view as the first panel. Lilith is still reaching toward him. Hooty moves out more, twisting to look at Hunter differently, still concerned. Hunter is hunched over himself and openly crying.
Eighth: A hug. You see Hunter’s back, his face obscured due to putting his chin on Lilith’s shoulder so it’s hidden by her head. She has one arm around his shoulders and another on his back. Hooty is coiled around both of them, doing his best to provide comfort. Lilith’s eyes are shut, but tears are visible in the corners of her eyes. She says “I know it hurts. We’re going to be alright.”
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