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verararaka · 26 days
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Just saw Mha 418 spoilers and uhm….
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demidokuriya · 27 days
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What I like about Horikoshi is that he makes plot twists that seem obvious, but then he turns them on their head.
Remember the theory about Dabi, everyone knew he was Touya, but no one knew what kind of problems he really had with his father. While everyone thought that he was forcing Touya to train like Shoto, in reality it turned out that Endeavor, on the contrary, forbade it, and Touya did not listen to him.
Horikoshi is doing it again now. Everyone knew that AFO was responsible for Tenko's Decay and that he was keeping an eye on the Shimura family, but no one assumed that he was a close friend of this family.
AFO pretended to work for a construction company and then befriended Kotaro to keep an eye on how Kotaro's children were doing.
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It's a shame that the flashback with Kotaro ends so abruptly, because I think we would have found out that it was either the AFO who offered to give Tenko a quirk (or pretended to know someone who could do it), or Kotaro himself who asked him about it.
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randumfandums · 26 days
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My predictions for chapter 419
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greenhappyseed · 18 days
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AFO tried to steal OFA from Banjo and then from En. Both times he couldn’t do it. MHA 419 confirms AFO realized after En that he needed an “iron will” or an emotion stronger than he was capable of in order to steal OFA. That means AFO was looking for someone to groom THE WHOLE TIME Nana held OFA. So did AFO discover she had a son and then target only her husband to pick him off before separating her and Kotaro??? Did she fight AFO thinking she might be able to stop him, when he already had young Kotaro in his clutches?? Oh my god, is that why AFO thanked her for the “wonderful comedy” — Nana thought she was “leaving the rest” to Toshinori but in reality AFO already had a plan to get OFA by “breeding” a successor from Nana’s own son?!?!?!?
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shiroforest · 25 days
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Big thanks to @huiiiooo for pointing out AFO's seemingly smaller hands in his memory, but it's not just his hands, his HEIGHT is also seemingly smaller, if you think about AFO's line of sight when seeing Kotaro in his memory
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AFO should've looking down a bit with his towering height, but he didn't, so it should indicate that AFO have some sort of appearance altering quirk to blends in with society
And if DFO theory is true, making a family wouldn't be that difficult for him, since he can appears to be completely normal to his family. After all, why wouldn't he try to make another family (after Yoichi) if he's so obsessed with family and "wants to do what's everyone have done".
This would also explains why Izuku didn't recognize AFO whenever he sees him, because that's not the appearance that AFO presented to his family. But it seems AFO original appearance (from the shilouette in past chapters) still got inherited to Izuku anyway, because they look too similar to not be blood related
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of course there's the thing with Kudo and Bakugo, but to even have similar behaviors like these?
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The possibility of them being blood related is pretty high considering a parent behavior can be passed down to their kids even if said parent hardly ever spends time with said kids/not the one who raised said kids (apparently it has something to do with parents' Behaviors being encoded inside DNA, which would later be passed to their kids)
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Holy hell, even Tomochan & Mikkun? AFO was puppeteering even them?!?
God this really is the worst version of the reveal we could've gotten. Not only did AFO give Tenko Decay (from fucking Overhaul?!?), not only was he involved with his dad and possibly even the construction of his house, but he even manipulated his social life. I was half joking when I said AFO could've implanted the desire to be a hero in Tenko, but now...
I remember a lot of discussion that tended to split Tomura into the good stuff that comes from Tenko & the bad stuff that constitutes his motivations as a villain; the latter being considered fake, originating from AFO, and should be discarded as a method of resolving the final conflict with the villains. I hated the idea when it was just that but...the idea of all of Tomura being fake may just be worse. Hell, he might've actually been more of a real and independent person of his own as Tomura of the League/PLF then he ever was as Tenko Shimura. ...Huh.
I think most of us can expect Tomura will come back from his disintegration, but...goodness this is a lot to come back from. I honestly wonder what he'll be like on the other side of it.
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marunalu · 25 days
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So, it seems its confirmed that the translations were right.
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Afo indeed owns a construction company (its not clear if he really OWNS it, but lets be real here, he would never work under someone else. He will always be his own and only boss). So that really means that outside of his villain business afo had a normal job and a civil life. A job that could easily explain why as a father he has to work "overseas" to use as an alibi for a certain green haired family.
He was also clearly trying to get kotaro be examined by garaki when he refers to "a great doctor". Seems like kotaro barely managed not to end up as a nomou.
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josephsaturn · 26 days
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Man, can’t believe that AFO being Kotaro Shimura’s sugar daddy is canon, huh 
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Tenko finding out about AFO seducing his dad:
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saiyef · 1 month
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demidokuriya · 19 days
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I've seen several people complain that chapter 419 doesn't make sense. One of the main arguments is the fact that All for One persuaded Kotaro to have a second child, instead of just using Hana. AFO himself said that Hana was simply too old to be part of his plans, which many found strange. However, perhaps the whole point is that by the time AFO began to closely monitor the Shimura family, Hana had already developed a quirk, so AFO could no longer make it appear that Kotaro's daughter was born quirkless.
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kanibaly · 3 days
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Hola
On Thursday the high school gave me and my classmates a notebook, and I've been using it to draw and make little notes
Chau
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greenhappyseed · 27 days
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MHA 418 leak reactions
Izuku blips over middle school and becomes a child in Tomura’s mind scape as Tenko decays Mon.
Baby Izuku holds baby Tenko’s hands in order to stop him from decaying Hana. Izuku starts decaying (!!!) but tells himself this is an imaginary place??? Dude, 2 chapters ago you were saying that you COULD get hurt in this mind scape. Which one is it?!?!??! WHICH ONE IS IT IZUKU?!?!!?!
Tenko cries and says no, he WANTS to destroy his house and family, because if he doesn’t want to destroy, then why was he born bad? (Ugh, poor kiddo!)
Tenko tells Izuku to go away, and it’s still not clear if it’s out of self-hatred or to keep Izuku safe. I lost count of how many times this happened in the last 3 chapters….
But Izuku says no. AGAIN. And finally, Izuku says something honest about why he wants to be a hero and save Tenko: Izuku feels relief when he holds the hand of someone who is hurting.
And with that, Izuku tells Tenko, “I am here.” Brilliant.
We see Tenko smile as he’s on a playground with his friends, and Tomo-chan tells him that he can play as All Might. Join the club, Tenko!!!!
Oh but of course it’s not that easy. If Izuku finally says why HE wants to be a hero, then it’s Tenko’s turn to explain why he has to be a villain: Because he hates and destroys things, and even if he didn’t, there are others who need him and look to him to destroy.
Back in the “real world,” there are some citizens cheering for Shigaraki. They’re sad (??) when the finger armor begins to disappear when ….
AFO’s MEMORIES APPEAR!!!! OH LAWD HE COMIN!!!!!
KOTARO WAS DRINKING WINE AND TALKING ABOUT TENKO’s QUIRK WITH MYSTERY HAT MAN???
Okay the chapter ends with vestige AFO returning (and maybe able to control Tomura again?) BUT it sounds like Kotaro bought his son a quirk from AFO? Or was Kotaro himself somehow taken under AFO’s wing after Nana gave him up for adoption??? Like they know each other and have dinner together????
You guys, this is so much worse than just “oh AFO gave Tenko decay……” Well done Horikoshi for one more good twist.
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mymhameme · 1 year
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Random Tomura Wips I found
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itsnothingofinterest · 2 months
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So it’s looking like we might be getting the ‘AFO gave Tenko his quirk’ theory confirmed and I gotta be honest; I am not in favor. I’m hardly the first to take this position, both before and after this chapter dropped, but if I may attempt to put into words why; it’s that I don't think it can really add anything except reveal postmortem some new way AFO is bad in the best case & handing Deku a potential deus ex machina in the worst case.
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Like, the best case result of such a revelation at this point in the plot is that it's just to make AFO seem more evil by making him the root cause of the Shimura tragedy, except…only in a way that doesn’t even matter. Like, this reveal shouldn’t change any of Tomura’s motivations or talking points; he already knows AFO manipulated him & hates him for that, but he also hates Kotaro, Nana, All Might, and the greater hero society for the role they played in his tragedy, and AFO giving him Decay wouldn’t change how much everyone else I listed deserves that ire. It just means that some of the tragic happenstance of the Shimuras that seemingly could've happened to anyone was instead purposefully cause by that jerk we know.
It’s like if we learned AFO killed Endeavor’s father, leading him down the path to become the domestic abuser we know him as. Thus the tragedy of the Todorokis would also come back to AFO...but y’know…not in anyway that matters. Endeavor, Touya, and everyone else involved still made their choices; AFO’s just the root cause of it all by sheer technicality. How diabolical, I might care if he were still relevant.
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The worst case result of such a revaluation of course is that it gives Deku an unearned & largely uninteresting easy out to solving the problem that is Tomura's rage. Because if AFO gave him Decay, then he's actually the one ultimately responsible for near everything, if not just everything wrong in Tomura's life (even if, again, just by technicality in some areas). Never mind the rolls Kotaro, Nana, All Might, and greater hero society played in it; AFO's the real root cause of it all whose been manipulating Tomura for longer than he even knows, so he should just stop caring about that other stuff.
Plus it'd also mean Tomura doesn't exist to destroy because Decay isn't his true quirk (never mind how that's not why he thinks that & he never even put much stock into that quirk-identity stuff anyway) so he can just stop being a villain now please.
Yeah this all just doesn't seem like the most interesting way for Deku to tackle Tomura's trauma, talking points, or motivations.
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Plus, like a live action Disney movie, the idea's kind of felt like it’s tying up a ‘plot hole’ that didn’t need tying up; that might even work better as a coincidental tragedy. Like; people act like this can’t be just a tragedy, it's too convenient, it has to be some master machination of the grand demon lord who…is already beaten, dead, and doesn’t factor into anyone’s plot lines or themes anymore. At best, to make him seem more evil long after the point we have any reason to care; at worst, to give Deku an easy out (with the side effect of making him seem like a worse hero who can’t save villains in Tomura's position without unique circumstances to make it easy).
Also like a live action Disney movie, this almost feels like it opens up a plot hole in trying to tie one up. Because as we know; Tenko’s circumstances are identical to Eri’s, down to the signs of their quirks being random mutations. When I said the tragic happenstance of the Shimuras we're blaming AFO for could've happened to anyone; I know this because it happened verbatim to her. So if those circumstances (just so happening to get a deadly quirk that kills their families, which just so happen to be connected to the villain who'll use & abuse them, etc.) are seen as suspicious, early signs that AFO gave Tenko Decay…did he or another villain give Eri Rewind? Almost certainly not; but if not then why does she get a random mutation-caused tragedy, while Tenko must have been the victim of some villain’s plot that's already been foiled?
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So my point is: I really hope this is just a red herring. Revealing that AFO gave Tenko Decay kind of feels like it undercuts the Shimura tragedy as something that could've happened to any kid in Tenko or Eri's shoes; and I don't think any payoff you'd get for that undercutting is worth it.
We should instead get the much funnier revaluation that the man who brought Tenko home that day was, rather than AFO, a completely different man who Deku would coincidentally recognize: Hisashi Midoriya.
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