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coulson-is-an-avenger · 1 year

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godddd something fucking Excellent about Andor was how much it showed the diversity of experiences and customs among Humans!!! Star Wars is usually so allergic to showing us any meaningful cultural context, to the point where all humans feel very monolithic (with exceptions to the rule like Mandalorians), and Andor said fuck that!!!!

The people of Andor are individuals, yes, but they come from communities with customs and cultures and distinct ways of living that grant them full inner lives, and diverse, wonderful viewpoints that affect their choices at every turn.

Chandrillans have marriage ceremonies that are very culture specific and are not understood or practiced by people outside of the planet! Ferrix has intricate percussive rites and funerary rituals that mix ashes with brick to build the foundations of the city on those who lived in it and loved it!!!! Kenari has its own language, its own colorful clothing and weapons!!! The Aldhani people have a plot-relevant ceremony of celebrating the celestial marvel of Mak-ani bray Dhani!!!!

There's nuances to every group of people! Every heritage has MEANING, it has weight and it colors the lives of the people who it belongs to, and that's so, so beautiful and important to the language of the story!!! It stands apart from the Empire, which forces unnatural order and conformity upon the land and people at every turn.

It's a breath of fresh air that the characters of Andor are given the space to have these rites, these ties of belonging, these beautiful, organic things about them. It creates a backdrop of realistic, diverse experiences across planets, and it emphasizes the cruelty and horror of the Empire's fascism, its spite towards people's homes and clothes and beliefs. It makes a point of rounding out the Star Wars universe in ways that we rarely get to see this much of, and it interweaves that lore into the wider narrative gorgeously!!! I am so so grateful that this show exists

#andor series #andor show #andor #star wars #andor meta #star wars meta #ferrix #aldhani #kenari #chandrilla #mossy speaks #the trope of 'humans as a monolith but in space' has always irked me about sw #bc humans arent a monolith irl and its annoying to see that just pasted into a fantasy (made by white ppl)#so this show was just. ugh it was so good #thank you diego luna. thank you tony gilroy

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jyndor · 2 years

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kenari sounding like canary and being destroyed by a “mining accident” is amazing wow truly A+ writing. the people of kenari are truly a canary in a coal mine for how the (edit: republic and) empire will step on other civilizations, leading to the destruction of alderaan - a coreworld, a wealthy planet that might be considered safe from the brunt of Imperial oppression.

indigenous peoples have been the first to be impacted by climate change and are the least able to fight it, but ultimately we’re all feeling it now, just to different degrees (and of course marginalized communities around the world are experiencing it differently than those who have wealth and power).

anyway a+ i have other thoughts but i wanted this separate because it just really struck me. love this fucking show already.

#andor spoilers #star wars andor #kenari #climate change #indigenous rights #imperialism #colonialism #climate catastrophe #star wars #meta

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mayhaps-a-blog · 7 months

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Rewatching Andor (as you do) and I'm more and more convinced that the kids on Kenari are the survivors of some devastation in the mines; even an attack, maybe.

If Kenari is known for its "big dark eyes" off planet, enough people have left to give them a reputation. That means spacefaring, which makes a regular mining colony more likely, rather than the simple hunter-gatherer life we can infer from what we see in the show.

Looking closer, a lot of the clothing looks looted - it's the same quilted pattern as on Ferrix, standard work gear. The buildings and stuff are pretty simple, could be something even a bunch of kids can put together given enough time and reason. There's not a single adult in the camp. And the one girl tried to wave down the ship, as if they were stranded.

Still, they were wary when approaching, and ready to fight the people in it, so they have some experience with Bad Guys.

So, were they some quiet colony, until the parents were press-ganged into the mines or otherwise killed? Or were they the survivors of a mining town, attacked or sabotaged during the Clone Wars, hopeful for rescue but fearful of enemies?

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azertyrobaz · 2 years

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“You know anybody from Kenari?”

#andor #andor spoilers #cassian andor #diego luna #xanwan #zubin varla #kenari #star wars #episode 3 #my edits

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ireallyamabear · 2 years

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Maarva being in the wrong about taking Kassa from his home and his loved one and Maarva saving him from being killed with the rest of his friends on Kenari can be both true at the same time.

#andor #andor spoilers #Cassian andor #maarva andor #Kenari #kerri #episode 7: announcement #clem andor #andorposting #thoughts and stuff #text post #my posts #mp

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pbandjeveryday · 11 months

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Thoughts on language diversity in Star Wars (warning, I have a lot of thoughts)

I LOVED seeing humans speak something other than Galactic Basic/English in Andor and I want to see more of it!!

Generally, Star Wars does a decent job of showing us alien languages. Which makes sense. Not only are there a variety of different regions/cultures throughout the many planets in the galaxy that would be expected to have unique languages, but also, alien mouths and throats are different from human mouths. Sometimes drastically different. Like Ithorians, who have two mouths!

With humans, though, the majority we see speak basic. And while this makes sense from a storytelling perspective (we as the audience need to understand what the characters are saying), it doesn’t make sense from within the story.

There are a LOT of humans in the galaxy, spread out over thousands of planets. I don’t believe for a second that every human on every planet is a native galactic basic speaker. Even if humans all came from one basic-speaking region and colonized/spread themselves out across the galaxy from that point, the language wouldn’t have stayed the same. Over the years, languages take on new words and accents from other languages. Slang develops and gradually becomes actual words. Grammar structures and words and tones and sounds evolve and adjust according to terrain and culture and so many other areas of life.

So with the vast number of planets in Star Wars + how long humans have lived there…thousands of dialects should have developed. Not just for aliens, but for humans, too.

And I wish they would show us this more often in Star Wars media. Yeah, there are some cool Wookiepedia articles about Star Wars species and their languages, but I want to see it appreciated on the screen.

We do hear a variety of different accents in Star Wars, which had to come from somewhere. So maybe this suggests that some humans (and aliens) have a native language and learned basic at school or later in life, like Cassian did. It seems like this is the case with the Twi’leks as well. And then you get cases like the Gungans who have developed their own dialect, which allows them to communicate with basic-speakers but clearly has some different grammar and pronunciation (perhaps due to Gungan mouth/face structure and the need to speak underwater/in high humidity).

If this is the case, though, and a bunch of our favorite characters are bi/tri/multilingual, can we please see little snippets and flashbacks, like we saw in Andor, of characters’ native languages? Or have characters make little references to their native languages, or languages spoken on their home planets? Or see written languages other than Aurebesh?

Side note: I also love seeing the written Mando’a in the Mandalorian. How cool would it be if we could see little details like that more often— Geonosian written on ships made by Geonosians and Futhork translations on a restaurant sign because the owner is from Naboo?

To do this is more work on the creation side of things but in my opinion, it pays off. Language adds so much more depth to the universe and it’s just beautiful and I love it

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a-dream-seeking-light · 1 year

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follow shot in andor season 1

#andor #star wars #follow shot #tony gilroy #2022 #andor season 1 #mon mothma #kleya marki #lieutenant gorn #cassian andor #luthen rael #dedra meero #major partagaz #syril karn #coruscant #aldhani #kenari #ferrix

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cassiansrebels · 1 year

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❝I'm looking for my sister❞

kenari siblings<3

#star wars #rogue one #sw andor #star wars andor #andor #cassian andor #cassianandoredit #diego luna #diegolunaedit #kenari #graphic edit #graphic edits

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faceofpoe · 1 year

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“There was a girl from Kenari...”

Me: I’m going to start watching Andor yet again.

Also me, 3 minutes into the episode: Okay time for a new Kenari theory because I remain obsessed with how little sense the everything about it makes, in a show that is so very tightly woven.

Kenari, where all the adults died in a “mining disaster” (see: Jedha) and all the kids possibly (presumably?) died in the aftermath of the ship (leaking poison gas [carrying poison gas? see: Geonosis]) crash and subsequent investigation.

There were no survivors on Kenari, we’re told. Maarva says.

Everyone died, Xanwan reads.

People have heard of Kenari. Kind of. Grimly. Certainly no one knows anyone from Kenari. But there was a girl from Kenari, according to Cassian’s friend, she was working at the brothel. She’s moved on, he’s told. No one gives real names. Pick a name for yourself.

What if Maarva’s right? There were no survivors on Kenari. Cassian cannot exist. We’ve always said Fest.

What if “from Kenari” is a rebel/resistance code to identify one another?

Because no one is actually from Kenari, they can’t be. Except. Cassian is from Kenari. Running around looking for survivors from Kenari that anyone who’s heard of it knows can’t exist.

How compelling. It must mean something. He must be meant for something.

“You said he wanted to meet me.”

Special people are hard to find.

#Poe should not be left unattended with Andor any longer #Andor #Andor spoilers #Star Wars Andor #Kenari

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dougielombax · 7 months

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So…

What was up with that ship that crashed on Kenari?

Some sort of space chemical tanker?

#dougie rambles #personal stuff #star wars #andor series #andor #andor show #star wars andor #andor s1 #sw andor #kenari #mysteries

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moobrvoobl-moobmoob-oobmpoobroom · 2 years

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me, trying to figure out how what we’ve seen of Cassian’s childhood fits in with the “I’ve been in this fight since I was six years old” line from Rogue One:

#Swift talks #Swift watches Andor #Andor series #Andor spoilers #Cassian Andor #bix caleen #B2emo #Maarva Andor #Clem Andor #Kenari #Rogue One

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apolloamongothers · 1 year

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I think the whole thing with the Kenari is very interesting and important commentary. But one thing that sticks out to me a lot and that I don't see being discussed is that Cassian's Kenari name is "Kassa", which implies that Maarva had to "anglicize" his name to protect him.

#star wars andor #andor #maarva andor #cassian andor #kenari #star wars

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mayhaps-a-blog · 2 years

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OK, new Andor theory:

Rewatching the Kenari segments, it looks like a lot of the kids are wearing old safety gear; the fabric pattern is similar to the stuff worn later, and there’s a few with what look like old reflective stripes or that sort of pattern.

Cassian stated in Rogue 1 that he’s been in “this fight” since he was six years old. He looks older than that in the episode, although I’m terrible at judging ages.

Also, one of the girls begins shouting and waving at the ship, although another shushes her quickly. That indicates some level of familiarity with ships; at least, that they have people on them, which may be friend or foe.

What if the “mining accident” wiped out the adults, when Cassian was around 6? Either due to the locals being pressed into service and killed, some kind of contaminant that primarily affects adults, or the miner’s children escaping the catastrophe.

That would leave their kids, untrained and driven from the mining site, to survive on their own, figuring out blowdarts and scraps from what they could salvage. Waiting for rescue, or the final blow to wipe them all out and bury the disaster under the rug.

A mining accident could be... well, anything. An accident. A weapons test gone wrong (or right). A coverup. It may have been before the Empire days, but, well...

Palpatine was preparing his Empire a long time before the rest of the galaxy caught up.

#just some thoughts #they better tell us more #i love this stuff #or maybe they just bunked the timeline #we'll see!#analysis #kenari #andor #star wars #andor spoilers #cassian andor #palpatine #rogue 1 #rogue one

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thisisthe-way · 2 years

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You can’t ask him to stop searching when you’re literally the one who took him from his home planet. Like yeah okay you thought you were “saving” him but you don’t know for sure.

#kenari #maarva andor #cassian andor #andor #star wars #disney+#spoilers

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raointean · 2 years

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So, I've been thinking about Cassian and his sister and there is literally NO good ending to that story. They could...

Never mention her again, which would be sad, especially since she's the catalyst for the entire show

Have Cassian keep looking but never find her, also sad

Have Cassian keep looking for her and find out she's dead. Sad, for obvious reasons

Have Cassian FIND her, have this lovely reunion, and then make you remember the end of Rogue One. The saddest. I hope they do this one.

#andor #cassian andor #kassa #kenari #rogue one #there is no happy end to this story and I am HERE for it

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indefenseofjoy · 1 year

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I find Cassian and his sister’s Kenari names (We still don’t know is she uses another name) to be very interesting. All of this assuming the names have meanings and are not only a mix of random sounds.

I’m a native Spanish speaker and I searched for similar words in Portuguese, to see if they have similar if not the same pronunciation. I speak no Latin American indigenous language and the one I have more knowledge of is a very obscure one so I doubt it was used.

But Cassian’s name is obvious “Kassa”, both in Spanish and Portuguese, has the same pronunciation as “casa” meaning home. Cassian’s name means home. The thing he lost, the thing he finds, the thing he creates. I don’t think it is a coincidence the relationship between his name and his famous quote form the Rogue One trailer “Welcome home”.

Then there’s his sister, she has a much more interesting name.I had to look it up because I didn’t catch it in my viewings. But her name is Kerri.

Maybe it is simply the English name Kerri, maybe it is a nod to Star Wars icon, pillar, force to be reckoned with Carrie Fisher, pronunciations in English wouldn’t be so different. But if you follow Spanish pronunciation norm it sounds a bit different and it sounds like the prefix “querri”.

On its own it means nothing in Spanish or Portuguese as far as I know. I found someplace saying that it is an archaic way of saying “question”, which would be a wonderful meaning, specially with what her arc seems to be. But I couldn’t find any source to back it up.

But it is actually it is the prefix for a conjugation of the verb to love. It is the prefix for the conditional or the wishful tense of to love. Like “I’d love you if you were kinder” or “I’d love if I could find you”.

And that brings on so many questions, so many poetic possibilities. So many opportunities of depth for her character. Imagine a character shaped by the fact that she is named by conditional or wishful love.

#andor spoilers #cassian andor #star wars #cassian #meta #star wars meta #andor meta #Kerri Cassian’s sister #andor #cassian andor meta #Kenari

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