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goldendrizzle-art · 16 days
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Hello! Rewatching quality tv show in here!
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melquexnz · 4 months
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everytime i listen to the other side of hollywood i always get goosebumps at the 2:25 mark. it just fits sooo well! it FEELS like a villain song! it’s like i get creeped out cause the boys are in caleb’s club but i also can’t stop vibing cause it’s such a banger song!!
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also can we just talk about how cute alex and willie was the entire time that evening?? 😭💜
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the other side of hollywood is honestly one of my favourite episodes!!! it holds a special place in my heart and it always will <3
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the-ghost-bracket · 8 months
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Brook propaganda
Caleb Covington propaganda
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Julie is related to Caleb Covington. Hear me out
You may read the title and go… “wtf is she on??” and I would totally agree with you if I wasn’t awake at 2 am while writing this.
Now, I have heard a few theories that Alex is related to Caleb, but I decided to go in a different direction. An odd direction to be sure, but oh well.
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Introduction
Caleb Covington is a man—a ghost of the roaring twenties. He’s shown to have his name and face on his very own poster, hyping up a show of his from 1921 with a very ugly moustache. We can easily predict that this man was alive in the twenties and probably died in the twenties, too.
And as we can seen in the above image… he seemed to be married.
Not much is known about Julie’s ancestry, apart from the fact that her mother‘s name was Rose, she was a big fan of Dahlias, and that she had a band called the Rose & the Petal Pushers but decided to quit the limelight in favour of becoming a piano teacher. We also know that on Julies mother’s side of the family, they speak with Spanish accents, meaning that they come from a dominantly Spanish speaking place. Personally, I believe that they come from Puerto Rico. I will touch on this later.
Start of the theory
When I was re-watching Julie and the Phantoms for the third time, I noticed that in episode six, when Julie was going through her mother’s clothes for the first time, I noticed that inside the box there was a picture of a Dahlia and the date “1892”. Call me crazy, but this was around the time that Caleb was alive, no? This box, I believe, belonged to Rose’s grandmother, Dahlia, when she was alive in the early 1900s. It could have been received as a birthday gift when she was born (or at least that’s my theory).
Julie’s family seems to have a bit of a track record of naming their first born daughter’s after flowers. While Julie’s name may not be a species of flower, it is actually a type of flower; ‘Julie One’ is actually a type of Dahlia I found while searching up ‘Julie’ and ‘Dahlia’.
Even Julie’s aunt, Victoria, is named after a flower, the Victoria Amazonia, or the Amazon water lily. It’s found off the coast of South America. The water Lily has strong connections to rebirth and resurrection.
Here’s the information I found on the ‘Julie One’ Dahlia: https://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/dahlia-julie-one/
My guess is that Rose looked up to her grandmother, Dahlia, for being a stage performer that her mother was not (as julie’s grandmother—or grandfather—has yet to seem relevant). In respect of her grandmother birthing her love of the Dahlia, she decided to name her daughter after her in hopes that she too would be a great performer; ‘Julie One Dahlia’.
Fun fact
Now, fun fact, Dahlias originate from both Mexico and Guatemala and were first bred in the 1800s. I believe that this is actually symbolism for where Julie’s family first came from. That her (great)grandmother came from either Mexico or Guatemala (we’re going with Puerto Rico for now, as that’s what I says on the box) and has to immigrate to America.
But how would she have been able to do this?
Answer! Her mentor, Caleb Covington.
Caleb dissing
Now, call me crazy, but Caleb doesn’t seem to be the nicest man. The “Caleb and Willie” relationship seems to be some sort of a mentorship. Currently, we are able to deduct that he has Willie under his wing… for price; he seems to be teaching Willie all the tricks that he wishes to know in exchange for (what has been theorised to be) a little bit of his soul in order to make sure that Caleb always has power.
Back to theory
What if, when Caleb was alive, he was able to use his reputation to get Dahlia over the border… in exchange for her hand in marriage?
I’ve been able to deduce the approximate birthdates for the entire Julie family tree. Caleb was approximately born in 1882 if he died at the age of 46 in 1928. If Dahlia was born in 1892, then they had a 10 year age gap (which wasn’t bad for the time). Personally, I think that Caleb may have died in the early 1930s, as the style of song he sings is swing, which wasn’t invented until the early 1930s, with the first swing-styled song being made in 1931. I’m not going to be going into this though.
Edit: something I only noticed after writing this is that in episode five, at eight minutes and seven seconds (8:07), there’s a woman who Caleb addressees as “my darling”, and asks her where’s she’s been, talking about her dress. She seems to be of Spanish decent and could be said to look an awful lot like Rose. Could this woman be Dahlia?
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Be gay, do crime
Anyway, of course, I’ve seen the theory that Caleb is gay, and I do actually wholeheartedly believe in it. At the time, being gay was much less accepted than it was these days, Celebrities would often marry into heterosexual relationships, called a “beard”, in order to seem straight. Dahlia’s cost for getting over the border could have been that she had to be Caleb’s beard.
Outside of their beard relationship, though, Caleb would’ve been her mentor, teaching her about music and dance of the time. This is how she became such a great performer.
Sorry
I’ve almost come close to the end of this rant that I’m pinning as a theory, so just stick around for a little while longer.
I believe that the reason why Caleb died, is because he was out of practice after the birth of either his daughter or son, in approximately 1927/1928. If he never had a child during his time alive, people would start to suspect that he’s gay, as at the time, it was very common to have lots of children. They instead only decided on having a child very late in their “relationship”.
Personally, I would say that his child would’ve been a boy if Rose was to be born in the mid-late 1970s making her 17-21 in 1995. If Dahlia and Caleb‘s child was born in 1928, then in approximately 1976, the child would have been 48–a valid age for male child making.
I swear I’m not crazy
Lastly, why am I so insistent on the fact that Caleb is related to Julie? Well, it’s been very unexplained how Julie is able to see the band members and make them visible. And, even though the band members have barely even met Rose (Julie’s mother), they seem to be connected to her somehow. Maybe everything is connected through Caleb? After all [SPOILER], when the band members were put under the spell by Caleb (that could only be undone by Caleb), Julie managed to break the spell just by wanting to hard enough. How is this possible?
Conclusion
So many questions, so few answers. This is why we need a season two of the show. By clicking on the link below, you can see ways to help Julie and the Phantoms come back to Netflix! Help our questions be answered!
Also, do everything you can to save Julie and the Phantoms: https://savejulieandthephantoms.com
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I didn’t read over this, if it doesn’t make sense, that’s not my problem :D
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TWINK BATTLE
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(Alex Mercer vs Caleb Covington (jatp))
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imadangerouscause · 2 years
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Watching jatp again and like Caleb promises that being a ghost is awesome but literally can't guarantee that these rich people will become ghosts???
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luckyyharms · 2 years
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jatp but the French dip recipe was Caleb's
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willexmagic · 22 days
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what do you mean this isn't how it went?
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So I did a very silly thing with the Barbie selfie generator today
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tangledstarlight · 3 months
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wild to think that if netflix werent the worst we could have had a jatp s2, maybe even a s3, by now. like. we could have had so many new songs😔
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secretly-of-course · 1 month
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it still haunts me that we never found out who man who made caleb on offer he couldn’t refuse was or what the offer even was or what the fuck caleb meant when he said ‘i gotta go pay the bills if you know what i mean’
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zackmartin · 11 months
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No music is worth making, Julie, if we're not making it with you. No regrets.
happy birthday @happinessismagicc! 🎁
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fleursfairies · 7 months
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i need julie and the phantoms back like....so bad
like im so upset
maybe some miracles can come out of this strike and netflix will stop being stupid
hopefully
cuz like
i need it
also you cant just leave my boy nick possessed like that wtf
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the-ghost-bracket · 8 months
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Caleb Covington propaganda:
"Blud is so so evil. He is terrible and the main villain and he tried to kill our main ghosts bc he thought they were a better band than him. He is however a ghost and a hella interesting villain therefore he deserves to be added to our list"
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Caleb Covington has a ring on his ring finger???
As I was re-watching Julie and the Phantoms for the third time, I noticed at some point that Caleb had a ring on his ring finger. Now, there’s a theory that he’s gay, and I wholeheartedly believe in this theory, but in the 1920s, he wouldn’t been able to marry a man (especially since he was famous). Any thoughts? It was just something interesting I found.
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Also kinda thinking of uploading a entire theory I came up about his love life and how he’s related to Julie.
Julie is related to Caleb Covington. Hear me out.
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lvkereggie · 3 months
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missing julie and the phantoms
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