Ch198, Cover art flower language
@jack-littlecrow asks on this post what Sebastian's carrying in the cover art.
First off, Finny is carrying that decent-sized fir tree around like it's nothing, as expected of him. Germanic peoples were decorating such trees for Winter Solstice long before it became a Christmas tradition. To Pagans, such trees decorated with lights meant light after the dark, everlasting life, as well as fertility. To Christians, the decorated tree, particularly with lights, is symbolic of Jesus being a light in the dark world. It's also seen as a symbol of the Tree of Life in Eden.
All the Christians had to do was ascribe that light in the dark to Jesus and make the everlasting life part of it harken back to the Book of Genesis.
What Sebastian is carrying was also used in an ancient Pagan tradition before it became a staple of Victorian winter-time decorations. It's not as popular now as the trees still are, but you will still see references to them, and some people still bring real or fake ones into their homes. It's also a type of evergreen, but of a very different nature.
Mistletoe.
In Victorian and other western flower languages, mistletoe is given meanings like these: love/romance, friendship, life/vitality, survival during hardship, wisdom, and even fertility.
Hanakotoba, or Japanese flower language, gives similar meanings about love/romance and surmounting difficulties.
As a contracted demon, Sebastian is all about surmounting difficulties for his young master. And by this time, our earl's mere existence is a testament to survival during hardship.
But also keep in mind that mistletoe is a poisonous and parasitic plant.
So, the mistletoe emphasizes that Sebastian surmounts difficulties and provides our earl with continued survival during hardship... but he's essentially poison and a parasite.
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Day 14: Dazai has a hard time in expressing how he feels, but tries very hard on his first White Day with Kunikida. He makes a schedule for the day, spends weeks learning how to make pancakes to bring him breakfast in bed, & buys him forgetmenots.
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Hi, do you know of any flowers in the Hanakotoba, Japanese flower language for courage, friendship and kindness?
Hi sailorrose!
That should be doable, all of them sound like feasible flower meanings.
begonia - kindness, happy days, confession of love, unrequited love
begonia (white) - kindness
bindweed - friendship, bonds, affair
bouvardia - friendship, exchange, passion
bugleweed/ajuga - strong friendship, comfortable home
camellia - modest kindness, pride
dogwood - friendship
edelweiss - courage, precious memories
geranium - true friendship, trust, respect
goldenrod - encouragement, prevention, precaution, warning
golden lace/ominaeshi - kindess, beauty, ephemeral love
gypsophila - kindness, innocence, pure heart, happiness
lilac - friendship, modesty, memories
mangles sunday/rhodanse - endless friendship, unchanging feelings
magnolia/kobushi - friendship, loveliness
mimosa (acacia) - friendship, secret love
rose (yellow) - friendship, jealousy, attention faded
soft windflower/nirinsou - friendship, cooperation, never leave
spirea/kodemari - friendship, elegance
thyme - courage, activity
wisteria/fuji - kindness, welcom, never leave, drunk in love
wood sorrel - mother’s kindness, shining heart, joy
begonia - kindness, happy days, confession of love, unrequited love
Hope these help!
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Floriography: Resources for Writers
For centuries, flowers, herbs, and other plants have been used to convey meaning, both in life and in literature. Many of the greats, including Shakespeare, Austen, the Brontë sisters, and Steinbeck referred to floral symbolism to delicately weave into their intricate works. Flowers influenced art for generations before us, and with luck, they will continue to inspire artists for generations after us--long after we've become them.
Victorian Floral Code.pdf
Floriography: An Illustrated Guide to the Victorian Flower Language by Jessica Roux
Language of Flowers Wiki
Hanakotoba - Japanese Flower Language Wiki
Ikebana - Japanese Flower Arrangement Wiki
Kate Greenaway's Language of Flowers
Floral Emblem Guide
Plant Motifs In English, Russian, and Tatar (pdf)
Flower Language Myths
Language of Flowers.com
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魔が差す
まがさす
To succumb to temptation/To be possessed by an evil spirit
In the words of a language the beliefs of its people reveal themselves. A pleasant thing about learning languages.
Envy, desire, pride moving us to theft, fraud, murder.. to an unwitting alliance with forces beyond our control?
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Mother of Mine.
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"Oddly enough, no," Dorian admitted, as he helped himself to a cup of tea, giving it a cursory blow to cool it down before he took a sip, saying, "I thought I would be, especially as we come down to the wire, but...I just can't say that I am. Call me an optimist, but...I just have a feeling that there's nothing to worry about."
All throughout these weeks of planning, of playing at being the happy couple with Emily, of scheming behind their families backs, of all the preparations being made, he was waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop, for the nervousness to kick in...and yet, it never did. He felt strangely calm about the proceedings, like something in his bones assured him that everything was going to be alright, and he was inclined to believe that. After all, Nicholas had been removed from the picture entirely, all of New Orleans was eating up everything they'd seen and heard about the young couple, and both their families were none the wiser to the plan. Everything was going off without a hitch, and he was glad for it.
That being said, he didn't miss the way Emily fidgeted with her sleeve, and he knew she wasn't feeling quite as calm as he was. Setting down his cup, he asked her gently, "I...take it you don't feel the same?" Perhaps if they talked it out together, she'd feel a bit better?
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Btw I'm going to start learning flower language once I figure out what country to learn it from
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Some thoughts about Odasaku.
Do you want something interesting about Odasaku? Wikipedia says: 「家紋は織田信長と同じ「織田木瓜」である。」 Kamon wa Oda Nobunaga to onaji 「 Oda mokkō」dearu.
In Japan mon, or kamon is an emblem used to decorate and identity family or clan. It's similar to European heraldic symbols, but there are some differents. For example, family of any social class could have mon.
Odasaky's family had the same mon as Oda Nobunaga, samurai and one of the Three Unifiers of Japan who lived in sixteenth century. This emblem is called 織田木瓜, oda-mokkō, it's "Oda's Japanese quince flower" but someone says it is melon or bird's nest.
Mokkō-mon 木瓜紋 is a symbol of survivability. It's also one of ten most known and prestigious kamons.
If you want to learn more about mon you should read the article I found. It's brilliant. Very big brilliant:
There is funny parallel with Odasaku's ability. It's literally ability to survive 😂 Exceptions are the checkmate, something dangerous but slow like poison and the situation when you want to die.
There's also dark irony. Oda-the-writer died when he was 33, Odasaku was killed in his 23, Oda Nobunaga killed himself.
When we speak about bird's nest symbolism, mon means taking care about descendants. And five orphans were Oda's top priority in dark era.
Memento mori, remember death, Mori and meme I must to draw. *laughs nervously*
Interesting parallel between Odasaku and Oda Nobunaga. He waswas the one of the Three Unifiers who started unating of Japan. He killed himself because he was betrayed before important battle.
The Three Unifiers:
Mochi meme about that trio made in nineteenth century (it must be redraw!):
Who are the three unifiers in bsd? There are many trios, dark era's and Mori Fukuzawa and Fukuchi, for example.
木瓜 — Japanese quince
Its a little bit insane, but… 木瓜 (ぼけ) の花言葉は 「平凡」「早熟」「先駆者」。In Japanese flower language, hanakotoba, Japanese quince is:
1) 平凡 heibon — ordinary
2) 早熟 soojuku — early ripening; premature development
3) 先駆者 senkusha — pioneer; trailblazer; herald; forerunner
If you want more hanakotoba for another flowers
Oda, who thought he was ordinary people, in his 14 or 15 was professional in his job like Fukuzawa. And Oda's death was harbinger of changes in the whole bsd plot.
Asagiri-sensei how did you do this?
The quince was wilted
Shadows gone from the garden
Time to cook curry
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Ch198 (p3), Mistletoe
I'm not sure why Finny and Snake need to be "careful" when serving them, due to each class usually having their own menu and having to share a menu for now. Maybe it's because some students are picky eaters and/or simply used to eating what they usually eat? Of course, they should be careful to serve properly, but I don't see what it has to do with not usually eating from the same menu.
Well, turns out that the mistletoe (shown on the cover) makes an appearance in the story, too. Each person who fledges receives a sprig of mistletoe.
Theo explains that mistletoe is a sacred plant that symbolizes immortality. That's one of the many symbolic meanings of it, sure....
But an eternal bond with Ginny's new "family" isn't likely. And Finny has the right of it. As I said about mistletoe in a post a few days ago, it's a parasitic plant, and Finny words it well that it sucks nutrients from its host and can actually kill the host.
Theo compliments Finny for his knowledge about plants, but can't you now imagine the scene when Sebastian explained to Finny all about parasitic plants? I know I sure can. 😆
Anyway, Theo ain't shittin' when he says "no one wants their nutrients sucked out of them". And that's exactly what's about to happen to Ginny, if it can't be stopped in time.
Mabel (I love that name because it reminds me of a little book I grew up with, called Mabel and the Rainbow, which I still have... somewhere) knows she will never see a newspaper advert from Ginny, if she isn't saved from her "fledging".
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20240316 Endoji 3 by Bong Grit
Via Flickr:
うむ。 @Endoji area, Nishi ward, Nagoya city, Aichi pref. (愛知県名古屋市西区 円頓寺商店街)
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Any good health flowers? Anything from in general, longevity, mental health, or even something specific like a healthy heart or good eyesight?
I’m fairly sure we’ve had these questions separately before, this will be a good opportunity to combine them into one ask. Good eyesight and healthy heart are a little too specific for either of these flower languages unfortunately. Mental health doesn’t exist as a meaning either, neither does mind on its own.
If there’s something else you want us to look for, let us know.
Victorian flower language
balm of gilead – healing, cure, relief, I am cured
balsam of peru – cure
coneflower (purple) – strength and health
cowslip – healing, pensiveness, winning/native grace, early joys, youth, rusticity
fig – longevity, argument
garlic – get well, ward off evil and illness, courage
iceland moss – health
rosemary – healing balm, remembrance, your presence revives me,
sage – good health and long life, domestic virtues, esteem, wisdom, great respect
yarrow – to cure, a cure for the heart ache, cure for a broken heart, cure for heartache
Hanakotoba
banyan tree – health
coleus – health, good family style, kanawanu koi
coralina jasmine – longevity, sweet whisper
dracaena sanderiana – longevity, good luck
gingko – longevity, majestic, requiem
loquat – healing, confessing to you, secret confession
marigold (yellow) – health
paperplant/fatsia – health, separation, familiarity
pear (tree) – healing, comfort
yarrow – healing, brave, battle
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I created a Tumblr account today, so I share my blog. Thank you so much! 😊
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I came up with another Tenzo HC that I think you'll like. We all know Tenzo likes reading about architecture, but what if he's also really into flowers and their meanings. So like Petunias are supposed to represent anger or being angry at someone. And then what if... Since ANBU just emotionally stunts our poor Shinobi, what if the way he learns to best communicate is by handing people the relevant flowers to express his feelings.
And we all love that HC of him growing flowers, what if the relevant flowers pop up because he associates that feeling with that flower? Like when it's a really really intense feeling, they just start growing.
Also, i know i share my HC with you a lot but i just feel like you always appreciate them <3
its so funny that u mention this bc just a day or two before i recieved it i was writing yamato and felt compelled to have him use a little flower symbolism! I didn't have him growing any flowers tho, just...ominously looming symbolism clinging onto a heavy thought.
i think this can be a really interesting HC to play with, especially when we consider how nebulous "flower language" is—like, for example the red spider lily has, apparently, the meaning of "elope with me" over here in the US, but in japan, the red spider lily is heavily associated with death, lovers separating, etc-you will see it in anime very often, i remember there was one i watched as a kid (hellgirl, i think?) that had them Everywhere and very ominously
and then there's cases where the flower is Supposed to have a meaning, but bc of how its practically used it has a different or even sometimes contradictory meaning,
for example the lily, in christian spaces the white lily is generally supposed to be indicative of innocence—which is probably why its used at so many funerals (symbolizing god washing out the sins after death and making the soul innocent once more, or something)
but the fact that its used at so many funerals means that most people i know, when they see a lily, don't think "aw, how sweet..." we tend to go "oh god. the funeral flower." some even can't stand the smell of it
one of my friends gifted me a piece of jasmine incense he had got once for the same reason, that was a Strongly Funereal smell for him, but it was not for me.
then, there's also the individual meanings that flowers hold for people—
this is jewelweed, one of the most important flowers to me personally! it's native to most swampy, moist areas of the USA, it grows very fast, and tall, and spreads really quickly.
when i was a kid, we'd call this stuff "poppers" on account of how when you touch the green, dangling seed-pods, they would pop! like literally, they would explode, launching their seeds everywhere! here's a video of that.
I'm told that in the language of flowers In General, they represent motherly love, but to me, because of how i played with them as a kid, they will always specifically represent childish joy and wonder, as well as a certain amount of resilience due to how quickly and how well they take over an area (say hello to one of the few plants that can take on the invasive garlic mustard!)
this all to say, the associations between meanings and plants could be something that's really fun to play with—some of his meanings could be gathered from books, some of them could be gathered from the cultural knowledge he has access to, and more still could be developed from his own personal experiences with plants.
i'm not sure where i fall on how much yamato would internalize flower language...or i guess even what kind of flowers hed care about? i see him as somebody who tries to be, first and foremost, practical...
flower language is very poetic and mysterious, but there's practicality in mystery too—he's a ninja, after all, (and, ur right, given Anbu he seems to be a fairly repressed ninja at that) using symbols in order to communicate certain feelings could be very practical, if there are things that are difficult to say...
the only thing is that the person receiving the flowers from him would have to also know what they meant, in order for this to be practical...or there'd have to be a shared understanding of things related to the flowers.
anyway! ur right i did appreciate this, ty for sharing it
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