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miseru346 · 2 years

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All the suitors are having a terrible week right now

And there’s still more to come...said Van Helsing, refusing to elaborate further

Making some art of moments that I really like in the novel (I missed some of the Jonathan’s captive days cause I got in too late LMAO)

Review that no one asked:

- Quincey showed up like a deus ex machina and Jack calling his full name is funny to me like he’s expositing for Van Helsing’s sake, also they hold hands, cute

- Arthur has too much emotional damage, it’s sweet that he trust Jack enough to break down in front of him, but not only is Jack terrible with emotions, Victorian etiquette, damn bro rough, considering how close Jack was with taking care of Lucy, it’s gotta hurt a lot seeing his friend cry like that.

-What hurts even more, They were supposed to be married in 8 days

Conclusion, Gay gay Bisexual Gay

BONUS, I liked the rough sketch version too, it always looks better when messy XD

I got the wrong date because Jack didn’t open with a date, SMH Jack U^U

#dracula novel #dracula novel fanart #dracula #dracula daily #jack seward #john seward #quincey morris #arthur holmwood #jack x quincey #jack x arthur

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yallemagne · 11 months

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Luthur (Lucy/Arthur) Propaganda

I'm writing this with all the pent-up rage of an entire year of seeing "Lucy's so dumb, she should have picked my favourite suitor" posts and "who should Lucy have chosen?" polls that always result in practically no votes for Arthur.

This is not an anti-Jack or anti-Quincey post by any means, though it may come across as defensive. It is just a pro-let-Lucy-choose-for-herself post. And yes, letting her choose for herself even includes letting her be monogamous when she has made the conscious decision to remain monogamous.

So, to the proposal descriptions--

Seward tries to hide his anxiety by putting up a front of sternness. From how Lucy describes it, it sounds like he's negotiating a contract:

He spoke to me, Mina, very straightforwardly. He told me how dear I was to him, though he had known me so little, and what his life would be with me to help and cheer him. He was going to tell me how unhappy he would be if I did not care for him, but when he saw me cry he said that he was a brute and would not add to my present trouble. Then he broke off and asked if I could love him in time; and when I shook my head his hands trembled, and then with some hesitation he asked me if I cared already for any one else. He put it very nicely, saying that he did not want to wring my confidence from me, but only to know, because if a woman's heart was free a man might have hope. And then, Mina, I felt a sort of duty to tell him that there was some one. I only told him that much, and then he stood up, and he looked very strong and very grave as he took both my hands in his and said he hoped I would be happy, and that if I ever wanted a friend I must count him one of my best.

Sounds like he hardly popped the question so much as stated: "I would be honoured to have you (I need you I need you I need you I need you) as my wife. If you don't love me back, I will die."

This proposal comes across as very neurodivergent to me. He goes into it thinking mostly about what he wants from Lucy and how good the marriage would be for his mental health, not stopping to consider if she's already seeing someone (literally the man who introduced them) or just maybe... that he's putting too much of a burden on her with this style of proposal. This approach would work better with another no-nonsense B, but Lucy is overwhelmed. He didn't think of her feelings in the matter because he was too busy schooling his own emotions so he wouldn't screw it all up. It comes across as very scripted until he sees that he's upset Lucy-- that is when we get a glimpse of his care for her. But then he's back to his bullet points of "but could you love me one day? do you love another now? on a scale from one to ten, how would you rate this interaction?"

Lucy gets through Seward's entire proposal without getting carried away and writing about Arthur instead, but with Quincey--

I suppose that we women are such cowards that we think a man will save us from fears, and we marry him. I know now what I would do if I were a man and wanted to make a girl love me. No, I don't, for there was Mr. Morris telling us his stories, and Arthur never told any, and yet—— My dear, I am somewhat previous.

She certainly finds Quincey charming, but she cuts herself off to talk about Arthur. While she momentarily thinks that telling adventurous tales would win a woman's heart, she says that it didn't win her own. There's a sort of peacocking going on with Quincey prefacing his proposal with tales of his adventures. It's very much like Seward's stoic attempt but with far more confidence and pizzazz.

Mr. Quincey P. Morris found me alone. It seems that a man always does find a girl alone. No, he doesn't, for Arthur tried twice to make a chance, and I helping him all I could; I am not ashamed to say it now.

Quincey "found [her] alone". Now, before, she said "Mr. Morris was telling us his stories"-- who is us? I am guessing that perhaps Lucy's mother or someone else was sitting in as a chaperone? And then Quincey found an opportunity to talk to her in private?

Again, she drifts off talking about Arthur while she's trying to explain Quincey. "Arthur tried twice to make a chance"-- my best guess for what this means is that Arthur has tried to have un-chaperoned time with Lucy twice before in order to propose to her, but he never succeeded despite her attempts to aid him.

Which makes this all so much funnier? Some joke that the Suitors probably arranged it all, but this hints that Arthur has been trying his damndest to propose, but the one day he actually gets a chance to, he finds out his two friends proposed to her first! Those dogs!!

I do not know myself if I shall ever speak slang; I do not know if Arthur likes it, as I have never heard him use any as yet.

Lucy interrupts her "haha the silly American talks silly American gibberish" with "would Arthur like it if I spoke this way?" Gah, she's so in love with him. It's funny that she says she's never heard him use slang considering she's already mentioned "Dress is a bore." which she even called slang.

Well, he did look so good-humoured and so jolly that it didn't seem half so hard to refuse him as it did poor Dr. Seward; so I said, as lightly as I could, that I did not know anything of hitching, and that I wasn't broken to harness at all yet. Then he said that he had spoken in a light manner, and he hoped that if he had made a mistake in doing so on so grave, so momentous, an occasion for him, I would forgive him. [...] And then, my dear, before I could say a word he began pouring out a perfect torrent of love-making, laying his very heart and soul at my feet. He looked so earnest over it that I shall never again think that a man must be playful always, and never earnest, because he is merry at times. I suppose he saw something in my face which checked him, for he suddenly stopped, and said with a sort of manly fervour that I could have loved him for if I had been free...

She remarks that Quincey's more light-hearted nature makes him easier to refuse than Seward. However, she finds it harder to reject him when he drops the act and starts behaving more earnestly. She finds it easier to imagine loving him when he's being sincere. She doesn't have this same thought with Seward because, unfortunately, even when he snapped out of his legal negotiation of the potential marriage, he still kept himself emotionally guarded through the rest of the interaction.

Why can't they let a girl marry three men, or as many as want her, and save all this trouble? But this is heresy, and I must not say it.

I must say... Lucy here is not saying "I want a harem of men.". Stop. Just stop saying that she is. That interpretation has led to every single adaptation that brands her an insincere cheater who strings along men and deserves to be punished by the narrative. Just stop. What she is expressing here is guilt at not having an option that would please all parties involved. She's been raised as a people-pleaser, but in this scenario, there is no choice she could make that wouldn't lead to someone being hurt. So, she makes the decision to follow her heart rather than her guilty conscience.

And think, just earlier, Jack planted this seed of insecurity by saying that he'll be upset if she does not love him. And then goes even further to imply her loving another robs him of his hope. It makes it so that, even when Quincey is more gracious in accepting her refusal, she can't help but beat herself up for practically destroying these men's lives (hyperbole, of course) all for her own happiness!!

Lucy clearly displays polyamorous traits. She laments that, if she did not love Arthur so much, she could love Quincey (rip Seward). But she has chosen not to explore those feelings. Part of her cutting herself off while writing about Quincey to talk about Arthur could be subconsciously reminding herself: "nope, there is no chance with him, I want Arthur". She compares the two constantly as if to remind herself she made the right choice. There's also her love for Mina, but she has plausible deniability in this era and can claim that as just classic girl love.

But when she considers a woman marrying "as many men as want her" it is not reflective of her being polyamorous because she doesn't have this thought out of "I love these three men enough to marry them" but "I feel guilty about being loved by three men at once, and I have to repay the favour somehow, but I can't". She does not say "as many men as she wants" because it's not about the woman's feelings but about the feelings of the men that surround her. But you know what? She showed agency when she picked the man she wanted and didn't bow and pick the man who would be the most devastated upon being rejected, and I'm proud of her.

Lucy is incredibly brief when describing Arthur's proposal, but let's. just. think about this. Previously, she has tried to hold back her overwhelming love for Arthur in her writing to Mina (she failed, lol). Other than wanting to be discreet, she explains:

My dear, this quite upset me, and I feel I cannot write of happiness just at once, after telling you of it; and I don't wish to tell of the number three until it can be all happy.

She doesn't want to taint her happy feelings with bitterness about how "oh, I'm so horrible and selfish for picking the man I love! I don't deserve to be loved by anyone!" And even then, she goes into a bit more detail in her post-script:

P.S.—Oh, about number Three—I needn't tell you of number Three, need I? Besides, it was all so confused; it seemed only a moment from his coming into the room till both his arms were round me, and he was kissing me. I am very, very happy, and I don't know what I have done to deserve it. I must only try in the future to show that I am not ungrateful to God for all His goodness to me in sending to me such a lover, such a husband, and such a friend.

Such a friend. Before this, Seward and Quincey were not friends of Lucy's. They were acquaintances that knew her through Arthur (though she does not explicitly state this about Quincey, so she could have met him somewhere else?), and upon being rejected romantically, they swore friendship to her. Before then, they saw her as a potential bride.

But Arthur was already a friend to Lucy. They have been close for longer than she's known either of her other suitors, and while they'd never said the L-word (love) to each other before, I think what wins Lucy's heart is that Arthur is genuine with her. We don't get to see it (she teases us!! how dare!!), but that feels like the most plausible thing that would set him apart from Seward and Quincey. Now, the other two are honest men (we see it when they comfort her), but they both initially put up a front to impress/entertain Lucy. Meanwhile, Arthur doesn't bother with that. He comes into the room, and she's practically already in his arms! It's so effortless with him. She doesn't have to imagine herself being happy and in love with him because she already is.

#dracula #dracula daily #re: dracula #lucy westenra #john seward #jack seward #quincey p morris #quincey morris #lucy x arthur #arthur x lucy #luthur #may 24 #wrote this like a few nights ago lol #just had to

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bossuet-lesgle · 1 year

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so I'm rereading dracula now in the intended order and listen jonathan is still number one in my heart but I am obsessed with dr malpractice over here he's just so?????? like his vibes are all over the place he's a poor little meow meow he's a competent man of science he's a messy bisexual he's a morality nightmare truly every dracula adaptation is SLEEPING on the fun they could be having with jack seward he's the most character of all time

#let jack kiss a man you cowards #modern jack x quincey x art au WHEN #i think about him every day #john seward #jack seward #dracula #dracula daily

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ladyminaofcamelot · 2 years

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They prayed together! They all knelt down and prayed together! Van Helsing pats Mina's head. Johnathan and Mina hug so much. Johnathan would go to hell for Mina but she would never let him. He hides his face in her skirt. The boys leave them alone with God. They set a watch outside the door. They're all crying. I'm crying. It's so tragic and beautiful I can't

#dracula book #dracula #dracula daily #abraham van helsing #johnathan x mina #johnathan harker #mina harker #jack seward #arthur holmwood #quincey morris

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general-sleepy · 7 months

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Assigning Saw Traps to Dracula Characters:

Because this is how my mind works. Also, I previously mentioned I was playing with this and @animate-mush encouraged my bad behavior. (With brief summaries of the traps if you're not as disastrously obsessed with the Saw series as I am.

Seward: I can honestly really see Jack in Lawrence's place in the Bathroom Trap (the main setup of the first movie, you wake up in a room with a stranger and you have to murder them or several of your loved ones will be killed; also in order to murder them you have to cut off your foot). Both of them are physicians who are emotionally disconnected and generally don't appreciate their lives. Honestly, though, I don't think the self-amputation aspect of the trap would be that huge of a deal for Jack. He might think it's kind of morbidly interesting.

Jonathan: I wasn't sure about this at first, but I decided Jonathan could take Adam's role in the Bathroom Trap. Adam is being punished for being passive, which is also a trait of Jonathan at the beginning of the novel; though due to politeness and a desire to please, rather than Adam's internalized homophobia unspecified mental illness. So, they have to suffer the wages of their own passivity, being helpless to another (implicitly more important) person's whims. Honestly, I can see John Kramer looking at Jonathan and getting big "pawn in someone else's game" energy. (Note that this applies to Jonathan pre-novel; post-novel, John would be very sore about Jon's willingness to die for/with Mina, because loving someone so much you couldn't live without them is pretty cringe tbh).

Arthur: Jigsaw would honestly struggle to find a reason to throw Art into a murder game. Maybe if he didn't process the grief of losing nearly everyone he loves in a few months in exactly the way John Kramer approved of. He'd probably get stuck in one of the more basic ones. Maybe the Venus Fly Trap (there's like a mini iron maiden around your neck and you have to cut out your eye to get the key surgically implanted behind it to get out of it). Arthur's a tough guy, though; honestly, I think he could get through it.

Quincey: Maybe Rigg's game (being faced with a variety of people in Saw traps and being encouraged not to help them, because either they deserve to die or they can only recover by "helping" themselves). We know that Quincey is self-sacrificing and willing to put his neck out to help near-strangers because for some reason he believes concern for others is a valuable reason to risk your own life. However, I imagine that Quincey would help rescue a victim of domestic violence, instead of deciding that she won't learn anything unless she pulls herself up by her bootstraps and helps herself (by killing her husband and suffering horrible pain, because DV victims are just complacent).

Lucy: Lucy and William Easton don't have a lot in common, but I realized his trap would fit for her. William's trap is super complicated, but mostly he has to go through a variety of situations where he decides who lives and who dies. Like, having to decide whether to kill a healthy young orphan with no friends or family and a chronically ill wife and mother, both of whom have done literally nothing wrong. Or having to decide which two of five people to save from being shot in the chest with a shotgun. This is the worst thing that could happen to Lucy, a boundlessly loving people-pleaser. That might be why he puts her in a trap, to encourage her to stand up for herself or something.

Mina: My immediate instinct was the Angel Trap (you're hooked up to this rig that is going to rip your ribs open unless you can fish the key out of a bottle of acid before it melts), mostly because of her and Kerry giving me kind of similar vibes. Kerry, a cop, is put in the trap because she's apparently obsessed with death more than the living, though really it seems like she's just too close to catching Jigsaw. Mina is fascinated by ghost stories and reads about criminology. She's, in a way, suicidal, and John Kramer absolutely cannot stand that. John would say that becoming a vampire is still close enough to living that you should still appreciate it.

Van Helsing: I was struggling to figure this out until I saw Saw X. Van Helsing is obsessed with brains and intellect and feels himself to be intellectually superior, so I think the brain surgery trap (you have to cut out a certain amount of your own brain tissue or your head gets roasted in a kind of mini-brazen bull) would fit. Maybe the instructions/insult tape would be something like, "You think you know what's going on in my brain, let's see if you know what's going on in yours." Something dumb like that.

#saw #dracula #saw x spoilers #i didn't put renfield here because john might actually dig his whole vibe #“you're obsessed with living? ah hell yeah living's awesome. carry on you crazy bastard. best of luck”#jonathan harker #mina harker #jack seward #quincey morris #arthur holmwood #abraham van helsing #tw: gore #tw: domestic violence #tw: suicide

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antique-ro-man · 2 years

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the ship name for morward would be quack if you all weren’t cowards

#morward #jack seward #john seward #quincey morris #quincey x seward

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blue-rose-soul · 2 years

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Jonathan: This is my wife, Mina, and this is my wife's girlfriend, Lucy.

Mina: A pleasure to meet you!

Van Helsing: Hey! Oh. Wait, sorry. What's the situation?

Jonathan: Mina is gay but she's straight for me and she's gay for Lucy and Lucy's really gay for Mina.

Lucy: And I'm also married to Arthur, Quincy, and Jack.

Mina: It's not that complicated.

Lucy: Nope.

Van Helsing: Oh, yeah. Sure.

--Later--

Van Helsing: The thing about youth culture is I don't understand it.

#incorrect quotes #Dracula (novel)#Jonathan Harker #Wilhelmina Harker #Lucy Westenra #Abraham van Helsing #the rest of the hunters mentioned #JonMina #LucyMina #Arthur x Lucy #Quincey x Lucy #Jack x Lucy #source: Parks and Rec

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mrsmarymorstan · 2 years

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Arthur was saying that he felt since then as if they two had been really married and that she was his wife in the sight of God. None of us said a word of the other operations, and none of us ever shall.

Well Lucy, I guess you got your wish of marrying multiple men from the Polycule in the end :')

#morstan reads dracula #Dracula #Dracula Daily #lucy westerna #arthur x jack x lucy x quincey

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miseru346 · 2 years

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In addition to my previous art, What if Lucy manage to get all her 3 suitors? Almost Van Helsing, cause you know, he joked about all of them being poly, he got jinxed lol

Van Helsing managed to elude them despite being bitten (He has plot armor) and got Mina’s help cause he thinks Mina is the only one left suited to end Lucy’s vampirism without getting caught by the seduction (or he thinks lesbians don’t exist, JKJK, he’s open minded, so he probably would accept that lol)

Why not ask Jonathan? Van Helsing insists cause he’s dramatic like that.

There’s not a lot of fanfic of these 4, I’m not asking for anything specific when I say that, but if anyone wanna make a fanfic, especially AHEMS one... *side eyes*

#dracula #dracula fanart #dracula daily #lucy westenra #jack seward #john seward #quincey morris #arthur holmwood #mina harker #van helsing #sep 29 #what if #fanfic writers who wanna do it please tag me lmao #lucy x arthur #lucy x jack #lucy x quincey

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yallemagne · 1 year

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Jack: where have you guys been... Quincey: hey jack, I was doing stuff. Arthur: it's okay... I am stuff. Quincey: Art?? Van Helsing: haha friend Quincey you are banging my adopted son

They fucking would.

Jonathan: "Okay, did we really need to vacate Mina from the room just for you to say you fucked around? That's the sensitive information we are working with?"

Arthur: *thrown off bc holy shit Harker swore* "I- well- I would not expose such a pure woman to such... um... inappropriate subjects--"

Jonathan: *looks into the nonexistent camera*

#oh whoops i made jonathan a bit sassy #lissen he misses his wife #yes she's just in the other room but lissen #people ask me things #update #dracula #dracula daily #incorrect dracula quotes #shitpost #john seward #jack seward #quincey p morris #quincey morris #arthur holmwood #arthur x quincey #van helsing #abraham van helsing #jonathan harker

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mxcottonsocks · 2 years

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7th September: [...] Arthur was stepping quickly in. He rushed up to me, saying in an eager whisper:— “Jack, I was so anxious. [...] Is not that gentleman Dr. Van Helsing? I am so thankful to you, sir, for coming.” When first the Professor’s eye had lit upon him he had been angry at his interruption at such a time; but now, as he took in his stalwart proportions and recognised the strong young manhood which seemed to emanate from him, his eyes gleamed.

18th September: The voice came from the sofa across the room, and its tones brought relief and joy to my heart, for they were those of Quincey Morris. Van Helsing started angrily at the first sound, but his face softened and a glad look came into his eyes as I cried out: “Quincey Morris!” and rushed towards him with outstretched hands. [...] "You’re a man and no mistake."

I love the fact that when Van Helsing meets Art and Quincey his thought process is basically,

"Who the fuck are you? -- Oh, one of Jack and Lucy's boyfriends? Yeah, you're just their type... manly and full of blood. Just what we need! Come on!"

#i love how the boys just rush to each other as well #abraham van helsing #arthur holmwood #quincey morris #lucy westenra #jack seward #dr seward #lucy x the suitors #dracula #dracula daily #18 september #liveblogging dracula daily #liveblog

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quailfence · 1 year

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Title: Blood and Marriage Length: 385 words Fandom: Dracula - Bram Stoker (Novel 1897) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Jonathan Harker/Arthur Holmwood/Quincey Morris/Mina Murray Harker/John Seward/Lucy Westenra Characters: Mina Murray Harker, John Seward, Arthur Holmwood, Jonathan Harker, Lucy Westenra (Dracula) Additional Tags: Canonical Character Death, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, (specifically the harkers arrived in time to witness lucy’s death), Gift Fic, Fic Exchange, exchange treat, Dialogue Heavy, POV Mina Murray Harker, Lucy doesn’t actually appear but the story is about her, so she gets a character tag, Ficlet, Implied/Referenced Character Death, Past Character Death, Polygamy (discussed) Summary:

“How sad it is,” remarked Dr. Seward after Lucy’s funeral, “that you were not able to marry Lucy before she passed.”

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