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#i relate a lot to the once-ler's motives really
ohnomyedge · 2 years
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We all know that Once-ler in his biggering stage likes to be in your face and above everyone. But, what I think is cool, is how that contrasts with Oncie’s design and personality.
Biggering Once-ler is flashy, dressed in bright colours, and has an interesting fashion sense that catches your attention. He wants people to look at him and finally give him the love and attention he craves. He’s tall and he makes it known. He wears a giant top-hat, his suit has a big collar, even his guitar is twice as big. He wants to be on top of the world, he’s probably sick of people being or acting like they’re above him, being at the bottom of the food chain. Even his office looks down over the Truffula forest, just like he himself looks down on it, and sees it only as a way to make profit.
But compare that with Oncie. His colours are more muted, causing him to fade more into the background. While he might be tall, he rarely uses his height to intimidate, he stands like a normal person. He’s not loud either, even when angry his voice is never really domination; unlike biggering Once-ler, who literally knocked down trees with a speaker.
While it does feel like a dramatic transformation, it does make sense with his character. And I don’t think that they are dramatically different people. With how Oncie was treated by literally everybody, it makes sense that he’d never want to feel small or hurt again. When he got what he wanted, he didn’t just stop there, because he wanted more. He had become addicted to the money, the fame, the power, he’d become greedy. And, most important to him, he still hadn’t earned the full love of his family. He wanted to do nothing more than to earn their affection, even if he had to go to extreme methods to do so.
While Oncie and his biggering self definitely are different, and have a lot of contrast in how they act and carry themselves, they are still clearly the same person with the same motives
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turtletimewriting · 3 years
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Logan’s Adventure- To the doctor’s
Summary: What it says on the tin!
Note: Woop woop! I actually found some motivation to write so feeling good about these ones! I will say, there isn’t any tickling in this one so if you’re reading purely for the tickles then sorry! 
This is based on the tickle forest idea by fluffomatic so check them out!
Beginning!--- Patton’s part!
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“Well where do you think we should go?” Virgil asked. Logan took a pause to consider the options.
“Well all options are valid and useful so I guess-”
“Cool because if you don’t really have a strong opinion, then I say we’re going to the doctors,” Virgil stated and marched on the stoned road leading straight into the village. Logan huffed a laugh at him, “Just... I guess now that you’ve mentioned it, I don’t want to end up getting bitten or a rash or whatever.”
“Sounds good to me,” Logan smiled before shyly linking their hands together.  
Now it was of course no surprise to see that the side that looked like a prince straight from a Disney film would create a medieval European village. The houses all stood tall with dramatic black wooden frames but still somehow made them feel at home immediately. Maybe it was because everyone they passed waved and nodded at them and the first house they passed had a mother placing a hot apple pie on the windowsill. There was colourful bunting strung up the old fashioned oil lamps and they could both almost hear the Disney-esque music playing in the background. It was a short walk until they came across the doctors. 
Walking in, the receptionist smiled widely and waved them over. Luckily, the waiting room was pretty much empty with only one girl fidgeting and tapping her foot. “Hello lovelies! How can I help?” The receptionist spun on her office chair to face them. Despite how friendly everyone was, Virgil automatically kept looking around the office leaving Logan to do the talking.
“Hello, I’m afraid we don’t have an appointment nor are we actually ill. This is our first time... travelling through and we wou-”
“Oh!” The lady butted in and started typing furiously on the computer, “That’s no problem. So would you like a drop-in session to go over how to protect yourselves and basic aid for the wildlife here, right?”
“That’s sounds great, thank you.”
“No problem. I just need to ask some questions so the doctor knows what to ask you all about?” 
“Go ahead.”
“Right, so firstly names?” The receptionist asked much to both of their surprise. Usually most of Roman’s creativity meant that any imagined space and people knew them. Typically every villager would rave about a certain red clad prince hero, they would bake for a certain lovely young man in bright blue, Logan made an effort to challenge the professors and every villager knew to leave the poor shy man in black to himself. 
They both answered basic questions about themselves before the receptionist boredly asked one last question that froze them, “Okay last one, are you lees or lers or switches?” 
“Uh... what?” Virgil whipped round to actually face her for once and Logan simply bluescreened. 
“Do you prefer being tickled, the ticklee, or tickling someone, being a tickler? Or, of course, a little bit of both?” The receptionist asked as if she was simply asking them what they’re favourite colours were. 
“Of course Remus would also create not only paperwork but... stupid questions,” Virgil grumbled but he already knew he was going to answer quickly. Yes this was an anxious nightmare but then he wasn’t about to cause a scene to someone innocently doing their job. He’d just have to get Remus later.
“I’d say both... switches?” Logan asked with a nervous look to Virgil. 
“Yeah?” The lady asked clearly wanting a bit more.
“I’d agree with that but I do think it’s important to note that Logan here leans strongly to the lee side,” Virgil quickly butted in.
“What?” Logan demanded.
“Okay great! You’re all good to go. You won’t have to wait long. Probably no more than five minutes. The doctor will call you. You can take a seat while you wait but I will say that the girl also waiting was bitten by lersquitos so maybe keep you’re distance,” She smiled widely and submitted the form before Logan could fight against any of their answers. 
“Thank you,” Virgil smiled before dragging his bumbling stuttering boyfriend by the shoulders and sitting them a couple of seats away from the girl. 
“You. Are. A... nightmare,” Logan finally snarked once his mind finally loaded from the betrayal. 
“Eh, the doctor’s need all the information they can grab. That means they need to know about your ‘stress relief’ mechanisms,” Virgil breathily whispered into his ears while trailing his fingers up his arms, leaving Logan flinching and childishly giggling. They stopped however when the girl groaned at their teasing. 
“Uh, excuse me. I’m sorry if this is really rude, but we heard you got bitten by... a something. Do you mind telling us about that?” Logan asked 
“Oh, uh a lersquito,” The girl answered with a judgemental look. She answered as if they had asked what colour the sky was. 
“Yes. That... What is that?” He asked. The girl took a deep breath and releasing an obnoxiously long sigh.
“Yeah it’s just a bug. It bites you and you get into a ler mood. It’s like...” She awkwardly paused but continued while never once looking at them, “you can’t get the idea out of your head and it’s like your fingers can’t keep still, y’know. They mostly hang out around water, so yeah.”
“That has got to be a Remus creation,” Logan nodded to himself and the girl simply shrugged them off and continued staring at the wall while slowly flexing her fingers. 
“Yeah wait!” Virgil suddenly perked up, “how on earth do we fight against that! A bug that bites you! I didn’t pay attention to any bugs. We may have already been bitten! And, and, the map goes through the forest. How on earth are we meant to-”
“That’s why we’re here. Surely the doctor can help us,” Logan answered and smoothed his bangs out of his eyes, much to his dismay. 
It wasn’t much longer until they got called by the doctor. She was dressed like any other doctor with no indication that she specialised in any tickle related stuff. “Hello, c’mon in!” She waved them inside a room. It looked also completely normal. There was a typical notice board behind her desk filled with different flyers and information. This was the only indication that they were in a world created and based on tickling. Even Logan had to admit that it was distracting to see a massive poster of a a cartoon man getting absolutely destroyed by bugs with glowing pink mushrooms in the background. 
He snapped back to attention when he noticed the silence. The doctor laughed at them both considered Virgil was still entranced by the poster. “Sorry! Uhm, can you repeat that?”
“I just asked if this was your first time through?” She asked with a polite smile. 
“Oh yes! Right. Yes this is our first time travelling and we would like to be prepared for anything that may get us... in trouble.”
“Ah well there’s not much advice I can give,” She responded.
“Of course it wouldn’t be that easy,” Logan mumbled under his breath but the doctor kept talking without pause.
“Just apply basic common knowledge and you’ll be alright. Don’t mess around with any weird plants, leave the white flowers alone, be careful around animals. Remember if you do get into trouble then come see a doctor if you’re worried. Did you have any more specific questions?” She asked Logan who was still flicking back and forth between the blatant poster and her.
“What is the most common reason people visit?”
“Well usually it’s the ants. Not a lot of people remember to look where they’re standing and, to be honest, their colonies are not obvious. They sting you and can almost triple your sensitivity. Not a problem if it’s a kid but if you’re in the middle of work then it can be a nuisance. Also, if you do get stung and it lasts more than four hours without treatment then seek medical help immediately.”
“Is there any way to... cure the sting?”
“It’s a simple lotion. It won’t make it disappear, you’ll still be quite sensitive, but it really helps dampen the effects. The sting is enough so that your clothes tickle you so a lot of people will buy it in bulk,” She answered while handing them both the tiniest travel bottle of the lotion. It wasn’t much but then he guessed it made sense that they wouldn’t hand them loads of it. 
They chatted but otherwise the doctor was reluctant to give them anymore considered her stance was thoroughly ‘just use common sense’. Virgil kept his gaze fixed on the notice board but the longer they talked, the more confused he looked. Even Logan ended up nudging him to try and get him to pay attention. 
As they were leaving, Virgil finally spoke up. “Wait, can I look at something?” He asked but he was already leaning over her desk to pull off one of the notes. Unlike the other leaflets, it was just plain paper with a scrawled hard to read chicken scratch. 
He showed it to Logan with a concentrated frown. It read:
The treasure is kinda smelly and gross but you’ll love it!!!!
“Is that a clue!” Logan gasped, intentionally snatching it from his hand. 
“It just stuck out as weird,” He pretty much said to himself because now Logan’s mind had latched on. Any mind based puzzle and Logan was in his happy place. The wording all screamed that this was a treasure that Remus created or at the least Remus made the clue. Had they missed more clues? Were they supposed to have any idea what this means? This was so vague! It spoke about the treasure but not about what the password to unlock was. Maybe the password is what the treasure is! 
Logan absolutely didn’t pay attention to Virgil saying thanks to the doctor and shoving them out the door. Virgil merely fondly rolled his eyes and pushed them out of the village and up to the path. Back to the adventure! 
The path led straight into a heavy forest with vines and the constant chirping of birds. The bushes seemed like they were always moving with different animals scuttling about and Virgil could already feel himself start to sweat as the heavy trees trapped the heat in the forest. All this time, Virgil had to admit he did feel a little worried about getting unfairly sneak-attacked but also that was nothing compared to now. The thick heavy forest only showed that they were truly in the thick of it now. They weren’t sightseeing around a village. They were in an adventure. 
They had barely stepped through the forest before stopping. Across the path was a weeping willow. It was just as gorgeous as terrifying. The soft pinks and white rustling together in a beautiful dance of a feathery bright petals. But also that was the most obvious trap he had ever seen in his life. Logan was still mumbling to himself staring at the clue so he carefully plapped the clue out of his hands and silently pointed at the tree. 
“Ah,” Logan said.
“Yeah. Ah. What do we do?” Virgil sighed. Logan looked around with a wince. The path carved through extremely thick trees and bushes and dense foliage. 
“There’s no good option here. We could keep to the path and just take whatever this tree does or we could go around it.”
“But god knows what’s in there!” Virgil gasped!
“So do we go forward knowing we will get tickled by these... feathery looking branches or get tickled by the unknown. There isn’t a good option here,” Logan sighed. 
This adventure took 20 minutes!
Total time: 46 minutes.
OOH BOY THAT WAS SOO LONG, I’M SO SORRY!
The adventure continues, but what shall our boys do?!
1) Go forward
2) Go off the path 
Now, Logan and Virgil know about lersquitos, tickle ants and discovered a clue! But now Logan is distracted with figuring out the clue!
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gashpilleur · 6 years
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Further elaboration on my previous point....:
I feel like the content given to us from all media pertaining to the lorax is a great sandbox for thinking about different kinds of Once-lers.
Errr...let me elaborate.
SO there wasn’t really a Once-ler fandom save maybe...two randomly scattered people who never interacted before the 2012 movie came out.
You can’t come into my house and tell me that people were not interested in the Once-ler beforehand...he’s got to have appealed to someone....like even just one person. That’s the way it is with everything.
Anyways!
Long long ramble under the cut.
I’ve always found it kinda strange that the natural course the Once-ler fandom took was to branch off from canon askblogs to alternate versions and further on into increasingly varied character designs all revolving around the same idea.
Eventually it did not matter what your Once-ler character looked like. They could have naturally ginger hair, any colour of eyes, different heights and body types, they could be different genders...they didn’t even have to be human. So long as they did as Once-lers do they would still be considered such.
It’s gotten to the point where the definition for what a Once-ler among the askblog overworld should be in the fandom is a bit of a mixed bag containing a handful of common traits; typically all Once-lers would have similar destinies even if they had different manners of conducting business. Usually a Once-ler has a few of these traits and obvious links to the source material....any 3 of them.
And the odd part about this is...we’ve sort of seen it before the fandom even popped up.
The original Once-ler was a completely anonymous figure. The most you would see of him are his yellow eyes, his feet in the TV special and above all his iconic long green gloves. And when you saw the rest of his family they were all presented the very same way. In the TV special, all the residents of his town were the same.
You had no way of knowing if they were even human figures. That actually never crossed my mind. I thought of Once-lers as being another one of Seuss’s fantastical creatures, but they are an obvious symbol of aspects of human nature at the very least.
Because of this, you could really imagine him to be any way...and the Once-ler could really be anybody. He doesn’t even have a proper name. It’s more of a title.
To me, it translates to “Has-been” It may not even be his true name but who needs to look into specifics? It was probably never meant to be that way.
What’s important is that is who he is. The TV special takes this further by extending the name of the Once-ler to everyone.
“For he’s a jolly good Once-ler aren’t we all?”
Anyone has the potential to do what the Once-ler did. It could be anyone looking any way, coming from any particular background. You know so little about the Once-ler that you might project someone you know onto him...like someone you know in real life who acts in a similarly careless way or someone you heard about on the news.
Arguably, the 2012 incarnation of the Once-ler gives him the most humanity he’s ever had making him out to be a character that can be sympathised with while you realize that what he’s doing is wrong and selfish. You may not feel sorry for him, and that’s natural. That’s all up to your feelings, but the movie pushes his sympathetic and relatable sides.
I kind of like that about him. It feels harder to disconnect from the character and say that you could never be in the same position as him when your ambition takes you too far and you use others for your own personal gain all while making excuses and insisting you’ve done nothing wrong. The only problem is Illumination does not focus on how his choices are his own and it seems from a surface glance that he was purely pressures and a victim of circumstance...but that’s a topic for another day.
The point Im making is that the idea of the Once-ler is a flexible one. It’s easy to re-imagine him with a somewhat different personality, him taking a different course of action, running business a little differently, looking different, dressing different and prioritizing different things. His appearance and motives in the original series are that easy to modify.
It could be that people speculated about the Once-ler when all there was was the books. I’ve seen people play with those ideas with their blogs among whatever fun and self indulgant things they want to do, and honestly that’s the best.
People made all this great content because they wanted to fill the gaps and pose “what ifs” about this character. It grew into something unprecedented.
I for one prefer when people address the nature of corporations, selfishness and greed and human nature in their blogs and in all these years I have seen a lot of it. It all ties back into the themes present in the source media. With a lot of people, these themes just crop up by sheer fluke when they flesh out these characters and put them in these situations.
I really love to see what people come up with and what will become of their ideas. That’s one of the biggest reasons why I love this fandom and the askblogs in it.
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