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winters0689 · 5 months

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An analysis of Alice, Rose, and Scratch’s relationship with Alan as it relates to obsession. Well, my interpretation of their relationships with him.

I love how in the game, there are characters, well three in total, who have an obsession (well, not in Alice’s case but I’ll get to that) with Alan Wake (the man himself) and how interesting those dynamics are in relation to how Alan views the person.

With Alice, it’s not an obsession but she does do everything she can to help her husband, even willing to throw herself back into the Dark Place to help him and is helping him every step of the way. Alice has always wanted to help Alan, which is what led her to bringing him to Bright Falls to get help, and I can imagine that Alice is happy to finally be able to help Alan, even if it’s from a distance.

With Alan, he cares so much for Alice. He cares to the point of doing anything to ensure her safety, even if it ends up being detrimental to himself, such as sacrificing himself so that Alice could emerge out of the lake, and Alan is constantly worry about Alice, with his goal often being about how to help her, to save her even. Alan’s view of Alice is almost like he doesn’t believe she can handle herself, which is the exact opposite, and when Alan falls for Alice’s rise in believing that she is dead, he gets furious, then guilt ridden when he learns that it was him haunting her, causing him to almost have a disregard to himself, thinking of saving everyone and even ending the story with him dead, taking Scratch with him and Alice refusing to let that happen as she helps him ascend by leading him to where he needs to be, slowly inching him towards ascension as Alan probably has something he hasn’t felt in a while, hope. Hope of escaping and to be with Alice (and I do hope they will be together in the end and the story not end in tragedy)

Alan’s relationship with Alice is one on how romantic relationships are, on how it’s about love but also about conflict in the relationship. Alan’s refusal to get any sort of help and to sulk when he was experiencing Writers Block began to strain his and Alice’s relationship and how as much as Alice tried to help, Alan had to be willing to put in the work. It’s about how mutual their relationship should be, instead of Alice constantly worrying about him as Alan, quite frankly, treated her and others around him like shit. It’s about how strong their love is, with Alan being shocked how Alice was still with him, even after everything he did, and their relationship isn’t abusive, it is heavily flawed, just like all types of relationships are. Their relationship to each other is about care and so, so much love for one another, and how that even if relationships grow sour, there is always a chance to change it and to possibly have their relationships become stronger because of it, and that through all their hardships and being separated for so long, their love for each other remains just as strong as it did thirteen years ago.

It’s not exactly obsession, but I feel like Alice’s relationship with Alan is important to keep in mind as I continue to discuss about other two people who have more intense feelings for the writer, but in more unhealthy ways.

With Rose, almost everything she does revolves around Alan. She worships him, wants to be his muse, wants to be with him, and writes fanfic about him (which is not a bad thing but I love that she writes fanfic, you go girl) and she basically has a shrine of him, but is able to show self restraint when she meets up with Alan, which surprises me, because she was very professional when she met with Alan, but with Saga she was basically gushing about him, being happy to help him in whatever ways she can, doing anything to help him, and I mean anything.

Alan’s relationship with Rose is one akin to a parasocial relationship. Rose is head over heels for Alan, calling herself his ‘muse all along’ and writing fanfic and drawing sketches about him while Alan remembers her ‘as Rose from the Diner’. Since Alan said that he wasn’t leaving Rose any messages, it was most likely Scratch, and it shows how easily Rose is to be manipulated by others if they just use that ‘Alan needs her’ (Saga even said the phrase that Rose had been waiting for and got excited even though Saga didn’t believe that she was a character in his story) and, believe me I understand liking an famous people or obsessing over a fictional character, but Rose took it to the next level, having her whole life dedicated to helping Alan and, being stated to ‘read The Sudden Stop before she goes to bed’, and while it’s okay to like authors or fictional characters and actors, it’s not when it becomes to unhealthy standards, like how Rose started to basically dedicate her life to him and never outgrowing that obsession for him.

Rose’s obsession with Alan was used by her to Scratch’s advantage, using her obsession of Alan to his own gain, and with Rose’s parallel to Cynthia Weaver, who was obsessed with Zane and how that ruined her life and led to her demise, it is very possible that Rose’s obsession with Alan may lead to her demise. (I love Rose and while it’s fine to like Alan’s work, considering her parallel to Cynthia, I hope that her obsession with Alan doesn’t consume her to the point that she doesn’t have a life outside of a singular goal to help her crush, just like Cynthia, and I hope that Scratch leaves my girl alone!)

Now speaking of Scratch, let’s get to him.

Scratch is OBSESSED with Alan. Scratch is basically after Alan in Alan’s section of the game. Scratch is way different than his American Nightmare self, being more reclusive in his appearances rather than his more boisterous self in American Nightmare (and also that he was drenched in blood a majority of the time) He then hitches a ride in Alan’s body, laying dormant until Saga got the Clicker, then he comes out and WANTS the Clicker, so much that he even takes over Saga’s Mind Palace before Saga regained control. Then Scratch takes over Casey, takes the Clicker, and turns Bright Falls into a never ending DEERFEST in which they talk only about one thing: Alan. It’s all about Alan, about his book, Return, and how is a fantastic writer.

Now we get to the chase scene in the Wellness Center. Scratch says many stuff that alludes to his obsession of Alan (and himself by extension) saying lines such as ‘welcome be back home’ and ‘everything revolves around us’ and ‘you are home’ a bunch of other lines. It’s such specific dialogue that Scratch says, mostly referring to him and Alan as one, especially since he had disdain for Alan in American Nightmare, often remarking that he is better than Alan and doesn’t even want to be put in the same league as him. Now, we have to remember that Scratch is now an aspect of Alan in AW2, so Scratch’s obsession over him could be the fact that they are both linked together, with Scratch being Alan’s dark self manifested.

Now, Alan’s relationship with Scratch is purely antagonistic. Alan holds immense disdain for Scratch, to the point of writing a note that Scratch is bad. Since Scratch wrote Return and Alan modified it, Alan has even more disdain for Scratch, and then he learned that, apparently, Scratch was haunting Alice, which resulted in her ‘death’, and then Alan went and shot who he thought was Scratch, only to learn that it was him, that he was the one haunting Alice.

Alan then, as a result of Saga being thrown into the Dark Place and Alice’s ‘death’ and Casey being taken over, blames himself for everything that happened, and while he still has animosity for Scratch, he acknowledges that he also had a role in what happened and that he had to fix it, with him writing him dying, taking Scratch with him, beckoning him home, most likely a symbolism of Alan accepting his dark sides, as Saga shoots him with the Bullet of Light, resulted in him dying, then coming back as he utters “It’s not a Loop, it’s a Spiral.”, leaving Scratch’s fate ambiguous.

Scratch and Alan’s relationship is one of repression, of trying not ignore your worst qualities, and instead of trying to resolve them, you ignore them as you let them fester, and since Alan is in the Dark Place, a place that can alter reality, Alan’s dark self was manifested as Scratch, at first a murderous, suave being who had no regards for anything and dislikes Alan, to an animalistic egotistical being that wants to take over Alan’s body (and if you want you can also interpret Scratch wanting to be Alan so that he can take his place, just like how Mr Scratch in AWAN wanted, but instead of being separate he wants to be the only one, which may be why he wants to be in Alan’s body, since technically Alan would be out of the picture) in which Mr Scratch represented people’s interpretation of Alan while Scratch represents Alan’s repressed emotions.

I wonder how Scratch will be in NG+ or in a hypothetical Alan Wake 3 if NG+ doesn’t wrap up the ending. I wonder if he will even play a part since Alan technically took him ‘back home’ or if Scratch is still out there. Since this is a spiral, is Scratch still inside Alan? I guess we will have to wait and see until NG+

Can’t wait to see what else is in store for this amazing game and, if NG+ really does change a lot, how these relationships change (or not change) in NG+ (and to see more of Alice)

To anyone who has read all of this (my ramblings) uh… thanks. Feel free to correct me if I got anything incorrect and wow this was a longer post than expected.

#alan wake #alan wake 2 #alan wake 2 spoilers #mr scratch #rose marigold #alice wake #I love these characters #tw long post #I guess??

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stenclastiel · 1 month

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I love them your honor

#nanno #derek hale #peter hale #nogitsune #dong-eun #yeo-jeong #verna #castiel #diaval #wednesday addams #i love these characters #girl from nowhere #teen wolf #the glory #the fall of the house of usher #supernatural #maleficent #wednesday netflix #multifandom

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the-jelliestbelly · 2 years

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Nancy: I sleep with a gun under my pillow.

Robin: I sleep with a knife.

Eddie: Both of you are pathetic.

Nancy: Oh yeah? What do you sleep with?

Eddie: Steve.

#steddie #ronance #the fruity four #steve and robin #steve x eddie #eddie my beloved #Eddie and nancy #steve harrington #eddie munson #fruity four #i love these characters

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bi-biscuit · 3 months

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Wake up babe new Camlann episode dropped

#camlann #I love this podcast #I love these characters #<3

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radio-heads · 3 months

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the quarry brainworms are alive and well

they burrow deeper into my brain every day, they eat the rot that has all but consumed me.

#the quarry #quarry brianrot is going strong #i love the quarry #i love these characters #raaHHHHHHHHHHHH

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alifelivedtwiceover · 1 year

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Myul Mang lived, after death. He lived. That is all that matters.

I love doom at your service so much😭 I'm rewatching it and I think I'll post think pieces on it after each episode.

I've seen so many reviews about people not enjoying the second half of this show and how a stellar cast was wasted on bad writing but for me, this show works even though I agree that the writing really was lacking in places.

It's funny how sometimes the things we like best are not the things that are perfect, but the ones that are flawed and imperfect and slightly inadequate.

It's so hard to define what brings us joy and comfort and what we find irresistible sometimes.

It's like, why do I adore this show even though there are so many shows out there that are so much better? Why do I think so often of these characters in particular? Why do I keep coming back here?

One of my favorite aspects about DAYS is Seo In Guk as Myul Mang. His character is the bedrock of this show from which everything else springs. I love his cynicism, his pessimism, his pain, his intolerance, his indifference, his quiet, simmering anger, his inability to outgrow his annoyance at the world. I love his audacity, his attitude and his insistent desire to destroy everything. I love that he doesn't hold back and that he doesn't try to be other than what he is. I love how the world slowly enraptures him, how it quietly grasps him into its folds, and doesn't let go. I love how he slowly discovers the world.

Myul Mang's entire existence is in nothingness, and then he is slowly brought into life. It is the opposite of what humans experience, for him it is actually life after death.

Myul Mang is hands down my favourite thing about DAYS.

The only thing I wish for was I wish we could have gotten more of his backstory. I wish he had been given a tangible past, a story that would have made the audience aware of where he was coming from, and thus would have made his motivations clearer, so that we know where he is heading.

Myul Mang lived, after death. He lived. That is all that matters.

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thehealingplum · 10 months

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#ghost trick #i love this game #i love these characters

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frogizz · 2 months

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Every ship I have, I can't tell if I want to be with one of the characters or be one of the characters. It's always both characters, and I want to be them in entirety. Their gender, their role in the story, their background, their looks, all of it. I wanna be with and be the characters simultaneously.

I be projecting myself and exploring my sexuality and gender through these mofos.

Two girlies pining in the canon and smooching in the fanon? Yup, I am changing my entire view of myself to think about only them.

Two bois having a close friendship/rivalry in the canon and exploring worlds together while holding hands in the fanon? Yup, I'm thinkin' about them all of the time.

But I always wonder why I never project myself onto straight ships. It's always wlw or mlm ships.

What does this say about me. ._.

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wanderingmind867 · 2 months

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Vision is probably one of my favourite Avengers. I haven't read much with him, but he reminds me of Martian Manhunter and/or Red Tornado. And I love the Martian Manhunter and Red Tornado (they're probably my favourite Justice League members), so I think I'd probably like Vision too. Someone needs to write a team up story about Martian Manhunter, Red Tornado and Vision. I don't care about them being from different companies, I just they'd make a cool team

#the avengers #the justice league #avengers #justice league #marvel comics #marvel #dc comics #dc #vision #the vision #martian manhunter #j'onn j'onzz #red tornado #I love these characters #always have #but idk why

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knightanni--fanart · 28 days

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I know I'm not the only one who saw this parallel, but I drew some fanart of it that I wanted to share.

So CatNap begs his god to save him while Dogday tells his angel to run away. I just liked the parallel between these two characters (who are counterparts of each other) speaking to someone quote-unquote "divine" about saving them.

(By the way, I love CatNap and DogDay. They both deserved better.)

(I love their character designs, how their black eye spaces and gaping black mouths make their faces look like skulls. Literally when CatNap when was stalking the player, exhaling opium gas, all I could think was, "He looks like Death. Death is stalking us.")

#my art #fanart #poppy playtime #poppy playtime chapter 3 #catnap #dogday #line art is hard guys #but i love shading #I love coloring #i may have gone too far in a couple of places #i love these characters #i know it doesn't look like it based on how i keep drawing them but i do

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thekpotterhead · 1 year

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A bit of comfort

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It kind of makes me sad seeing how many people don't like Tyler or call him a monster.

I get that he did shitty things as the Hyde, and of course there's the matter of what he did to Xavier's mural, but I don't think he was really evil. The real monster was Thornhill and everything she put him through. That being said, it would leave lasting scars for sure.

Now, imagine Tyler having to deal with that trauma plus the fact that everyone would now hate him or at least wouldn't trust him because of the murders. The only thing he really had going for him was his job at the Weathervane during the series. I can imagine that he would lose that after everything as well. That would leave Tyler literally at his lowest. Now, imagine this, it's outreach day, maybe Xavier's senior year. He's working on a new mural, and he notices Tyler sitting somewhere alone, maybe just on one of the bleachers. Everyone's ignoring him, both normies and outcast because

"That's the monster. That's the person who massacred a crap ton of people all those years ago."

All they know him as is the hyde. Xavier is watching as Tyler goes and tries to talk to Wednesday who is setting up her cello only to get the cold shoulder. Tyler is desperate since he knows that she knows the truth, but try as he might, he still gets ignored and told,

"Go away or I'll make you wish you'd never came over here."

By the girl that he had once loved. Tyler walks away, dejected. Xavier follows him whether out of curiosity or worry (he can't even tell which). He sees Tyler break down once he thinks he's alone, maybe in the woods somewhere. This doesn't look like a monster or a killer, no, the person in front of him looks like a scared, broken, and lost boy. Despite himself, Xavier reaches out a hand and rests it on Tyler's shoulder.

"Are you okay?"

Those words just make Tyler cry harder. He doesn't know what to say, whether he should lie or if he should spill his guts to the boy who should by all means hate him. To his shock, Xavier sits by his side and wraps his arms around him, just hugging him as tightly as he can manage. Xavier doesn't get an answer, but he doesn't need one. He just let's Tyler cry into his shoulder for as long as he needs.

#tylorpe #tavier #tyler galpin x xavier thorpe #tyler x xavier #xavier thorpe x tyler galpin #Xavier x Tyler #wednesday xavier #wednesday tyler #tyler galpin wednesday #xavier thorpe wednesday #Tyler galpin #xavier thorpe #hurt/comfort #angst #comfort #trauma #I love these characters #I swear!#that's why I torture them

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