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therainbowfishy · 2 years
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that-grey-guy · 3 months
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I have a weird feeling that these two would hate each other's guts when they first meet, but eventually become full-on ~trauma besties~
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(These two wet cat men are Doug Eiffel (Wolf 359) and Jonathan Sims (TMA), by the way)
Some ranting below-
Okay, so. These two pods cannot be so different, yet sooo similar cuz of how good they are. Here's my opinions on both so far. (That no one wants to hear)
I'd finished Wolf 359 about a month ago and my. god. It just- it had everything and more that the nerd part of my brain wants from a space story. Great characters, good stories, wayyy too many sci fi references, and of course- trauma~. (+ humor)
As of this post, I just reached episode 100 of The Magnus Archives and tbh, my adhd brain can't remember every single episode's story so- I'm a bit confused 'bout the plot. STILL, this show is one of the best I've listened to. The characters, stories and world building are just unbelievably good.
Like, can you imagine the skills Jonny Sims must have to write such captivating stories for EACH and EVERY episode....
I know they both have very different stories but- the characters, world building, comedy and horror make both of them amazing audio dramas.
I'm currently working on this idea for a Wolf 359 comic thing and will be posting more on TMA soon.
If anyone's reading this and has more podcast recommendations, please do share ;)
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nat-20s · 3 years
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thoughts on . hm. books
I like em? I wish i still had the capacity to rapidly consume them as much as I did as a kid but now I have to be in a like Mood to be able to read books u know. Like what do u mean there’s this form of entertainment involving characters that I don’t already know AND I can’t do something else while consuming them??
I suppose i could try out more audio books but also audio books and my brain are NOT friends I don’t know why audio books are way harder to listen to than podcasts but they ARE. maybe bc podcasts are more episodic and also if u mentally drift a little in podcasts even the more narratively complex one it’s still like. fine. Like i’ve listened to TMA and WTNV and WOLF 359 and the like while spacing out for a little bit or focusing on a different task and it didn’t matter at all but i listened to pride and prejudice on audiobook and i was like “oh fuck back up the last few minutes” quite a bit.
This isn’t me dunking on books though I have a huge pile of library books right now and the two I’m gonna try and finish in the next few days are a brief history of swearing and the history of tea. I actually read a lot this year like 49 books but it FEELs like i never read or when i do it’s uhh fanfic but i think that’s just because I’m comparing my reading rate to my like twelve year old self.
TLDR; Books. I’ve heard of ‘em
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luvkirby4ever · 7 years
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Wolf 359 Theory:  [SPOILERS]
As of Wolf 359 episode 46, Boléro, I don’t think that Hilbert is dead.  I posted a brief mention of it and some people were interested in my thoughts… so here it goes.
It goes without saying that this is based purely on speculation and wishful thinking.  I’m also slightly paranoid that if there’s any bit of truth to my theory and the writers discover that I’ve caught on they’ll change things for fear of not looking too predictable.  So please keep in mind that this is a completely nonsensical post by some annoying fan who just discovered Wolf 359 and binged the entire series in a week.
I’ve also decided to keep this under a “read more” cut to spare anyone’s dashboards.  (Also please excuse any typos- I’m typing in a hurry and I have problems transposing words.)
To start things off, let’s take a quick examination of Dr. Alexander Hilbert. He’s a very interesting character (and feels complex when trying to nail his feelings in a scenario) but he’s actually got a pretty easy overall motivation: His research is above all else.  Anything he does is either directly or indirectly tied to his overall motivation of continuing to study the Decima virus for the benefits of mankind.  His actions are not based on some sort of moral scale (asking himself if this is the “good” thing to do) but rather based on a scale of how his actions will further his cause (will doing this help/harm his ability to work on the Decima Project).  This is important to remember.
For ease of reference, I’ll be including [episode numbers in brackets] to indicate where I’m pulling some of these facts from.  I won’t do this for every point but for some of them that might be less obvious/harder to remember in case you want to listen for yourself.
In-universe reasons why Hilbert might be alive:
We never saw a body.
If he did die via fiery explosion I don’t expect a body(/pieces) to be left.  We still don’t know, however, if somebody bothered to check the area of the detonation.  So we don’t know if there’s any signs of escape/refuge.
Hilbert’s dialogue up to the explosion was suspicious.
Why would Hilbert specifically tell Minkowski how long it would take him to get into the room?
He does this multiple times… which is convenient for letting your enemies know when to set a bomb timer (it’s also useful for ripping out the hearts of your fans T^T)
He already knew that the plan had started to unravel/go wrong, so wouldn’t he be suspicious talking to Minkowski if she isn’t answering him back?
The engineering section is weird.
Ah the advantages of an audio-only medium:  the audience isn’t too sure of how to picture the area.
What we do know is that Hilbert and Lovelace stockpiled napalm in the “secret room that nobody knows about” in the engineering section .
We ALSO know that the secret door to Hilbert’s brain-scan chair is located in the back corner of the engineering section behind gears and such [ep 11].
It’s established, however, that the area which begins to reach past Hera’s sense horizon does not begin at the secret door room, but rather a little before it [ep 38].  Which gives me the impression that the napalm was not stockpiled in the room with the chair… but in that area nearby.
The door to the brain-scanner sounded heavy [ep 44], it is possible for Hilbert to have taken refuge from an explosion there?  I’m honestly not sure.
Since Hera can’t sense exactly what’s going on in there, she could only confirm in Desperate Measures that Hilbert was “heading towards the engineering section”.  So we don’t know what he was doing once he got off the radar.
Hilbert has wanted Maxwell dead multiple times.
Hilbert knew that Maxwell could turn Hera against them, so he has expressed interest in killing her [ep 36], about how not killing her was a wasted opportunity [ep 38], and killing/incapacitating her [ep 44].
The cockroach metaphor:
(Courtesy of Lovelace:)  “You really are a cockroach- dirty, sick, and impossible to kill.  And, God help us, that might be what we need right now.”
Remember- he has survived at least one other Hephaestus mission and years of working with Cutter [minisode 7].
More meta (storytelling) reasons why Hilbert might be alive:
The brain-scan chair’s story thread is still open.
Instead of asking yourself what Hilbert chose to do with the chair, ask yourself this:  “Do you think we’ll be able to find out if he’s dead?”
If the Lovelace we knew is alive and Hilbert’s alive, that would mean that Minkowski would have to live with fact that Maxwell was the only one who died that day.
Minkowski really didn’t want to kill someone- can you imagine the kind of mental/emotional pain that would cause knowing that Maxwell was the only one murdered?
It would also put additional strain on Hilbert’s relationship with her (she DID kill Maxwell because of the shock of his supposed death)
good for the ever-swinging pendulum of the story
Eiffel’s comparison between Hilbert and his own bad life-decisions could be explored more.
Eiffel laments Hilbert’s death partially because he wanted to see Hilbert “turn towards the light”.  This is because Eiffel’s trying to use this as a measure to figure out if he can become a better person after all the terrible things he had done.
So, can you imagine… if Hilbert actually turns around and does something horrible?  It sets up a ton of potential for struggle and strain, as well as Eiffel being forced to deal with the fact that some people won’t change.
On the other hand, there’s also that gushy part of me that wants to see an 11th hour Hilbert appear out of nowhere and save Minkowsi’s/Eiffel’s/Hera’s(/Lovelace’s?) asses because GDI he needs them to stay alive.  For science.
Would we ever find out why there’s bad blood between Hilbert and Kepler if Hilbert’s dead?
Unless Kepler reveals this or it’s the focus of a minisode I don’t think so.
Hilbert’s knowledge of the SI-5 and having worked once with Kepler are unexplored
Why was Cutter so interested in Hilbert’s Decima research [minisode 7] yet it was okay for the Decima Project to be retired [ep 33]?
Were they using Hilbert for something else?  Was this something he knew about?  He seemed to know a little bit about radiology… were they really just using him to dabble with aliens?
Given Hilbert’s reaction to Wolf 359′s change from red to blue, I’m going to guess that Hilbert wasn’t lying about not knowing about this weird alien stuff.
Which furthers the question- why was it okay for Kepler to terminate the Decima Project?
Speculative “reasons” why Hilbert might be alive:
Minkowski makes it a special point that they need Hilbert (to usurp Kepler) [ep 38].
This was right after Hilbert was thinking about the chair.
Hilbert didn’t really end up doing much to further the plan in Desperate Times and Desperate Measures (other than being the presence who died)… but what if this is foreshadowing further?
“Can I help you, Commander?” “Listen. [beat] I know your suggestions haven’t exactly… gone over well, but, I don’t want you to- [beat] Whatever we do, we’re going to need you, doctor. I want you to know that.” “I know that.”
He knows- and interestingly enough he’s showing a small trace of comradery.
I don’t think he’s completely consistent with this but he is under no obligation to call her “Commander” anymore.  Hm.
There is no character who has so far exhibited the ability to research/handle the Decima virus other than Hilbert.
Doug’s cough has been causally showing up again, so if he’s supposed to stay alive much longer he’s going to need a doctor.
Also, the Decima has reached a new stage [ep 33] so for all we know Doug is in for some rough bouts.
Hilbert is hellbent on staying alive because he believes that he’s the only one who can continue the work and that “If only the work can continue without me.  Then that will have to suffice.” [ep 38]
Suffice… as in it (the chair) will have to do as a last resort.  As in it’s not nearly as good as surviving as finishing it himself (insert speech from… ep 25 I think about Hilbert playing his hand through to the end).
Hilbert may have turned to the SI-5 team.
In episode 38 Lovelace says that she thinks Hilbert would switch sides if Command would take him back.
Hilbert responds “no”… but he wasn’t saying no to the idea of switching sides.  He was saying no and continues to justify that Command is done with him.  He never denied that he’d switch sides.
This would make Jacobi’s involvement with the explosion more suspicious since he could be covering for Hilbert.
Stabby the space roomba.
Okay but can you imagine.
That’s all the time I have for now!  Let me know what you think.  I love Hilbert and am really hoping he’s still around, even if he’s going to bring more suffering ^^;  There’s always that corner of my mind that- like Eiffel- imagines some sort of internal conflict inside Hilbert.  Ha.
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