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#i don't know where people keep finding all this villainy and malice
ladyluscinia · 2 years
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It's kinda weird to me when people set up Izzy as a uniquely hostile outlier to the Revenge crew feelings bubble because like... Ivan is right there.
I mean, it's already ridiculous in the first place to act like the antagonist of the story having - gasp! - character based reasons to not immediately become buddy-buddy with the ragtag friend group is proof he's pure evil and incapable of love. Like... Have you ever seen a story where an antagonist ends as a friend? They don't renounce their prior beliefs or loyalty immediately. That's boring, bad character design, and also fucks up your plot because the antagonist suddenly isn't antagonizing.
But beyond that... Ivan is right there!
Ivan is a lot more minor of a character than Izzy, and he's a lot chiller of a person (side character who goes with the flow), but when people default him into the muppet crew shenanigans (possibly as an extension of Fang) I'm always like... is he though???
Ivan's first meeting with the crew is getting his nose broken, and he bears enough of a grudge to openly advocate for killing them all because of it. He's a more than willing enforcer of the bad cop stick in 1x04. In 1x05 he has a great time raiding and doesn't exactly seem impressed with Stede and Lucius in their observer capacity failing to loot a body, and then removes the guy's gold teeth.
1x06 has Ivan's most "muppety" moments. He comments on Edward being open and available, and then he hugs Fang as he sobs in the doggy heaven scene. People are more than happy to recall the latter while ignoring he does this while directly telling Edward it's time to murder Stede and move on. So now our tally is 0 crew bonding and 2 advocating killing them.
Literally the closest thing to bonding he does is helping mutiny Izzy, and I feel like that's pretty overshadowed by jumping to it when Edward goes Kraken. It's just so weird when people fold him into the found family in the same breath they suggest Izzy is a complete outsider, whether humorously (the long headcanon posts that end with Izzy being completely contrary) or seriously (meta that acts like Izzy is taking a radical anti-friendship stance because evil).
Izzy is literally Just Some Guy. His distaste for the Revenge crew is just kinda normal pirate mindset. Fang and Edward are the weird ones, and that doesn't mean they are the only pirates capable of love or deserving happy endings???
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