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homoquartz · 1 year
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each new cycle a new mystery
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I dont like the young justice TV show
OK OK before you say anything hears my opinion on this TV show
the one on HBO max I mean
I hate it, it makes me want to rip my hair out
and here are some of the reasons why
First off, they put the whole ass wrong Robin in there
They put Dick in there?? No?? The Robin that was in the Young Justice was Tim Drake not Dick. He was never a member of the Young justice
Time, Conner and Bart where the three IfirstI members of the Young justice, they made the team, and by the time that Tim is Robin Dicks a full grown adult so why would he be in there??
Dick was a Teen Titan sure but a young justice member?? Hello?
I mean like a quick google serch can tell you what Robin it was and like i guess benifit of the doubt the robins are a bit confusing but they have Tim come into the show later on like he was the Robin after Dick? No? Where did Jason go? After Dick Jason was Robin, not Tim.
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Like for what reason (also why did they flatten his hair like that)
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Like thats Tim in the first Young justice comics
You can litrally just Google it and get the right one
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Okay i could talk about just the robins for hours but moving on to my second point
CONNER WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU
Why did they compleatly change him?? Why??
Not only did they give him worlds most boreing design but they also compleatly changed his backstory to??
Starting with the disign thing because thats my bigest ick this is what hes suposed to look like (what he looked like in his protraal in the comic books)
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Like look how cool that is with the Leather jacket and the belts all the color design, like you can get a pretty good grasp of his personality just based on his design, but what they did with him in the show...
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CONNER WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU
They just took out everything that made him a unique character, like everything
His entire personality was also changed witch i absolutly cannot stand. He almost acts like a wild animal in the show like for what reson did they need to make him the worst character ever in the show I hate it so much
Why did they change his whole backstory to?? Like he was made from super man and Lex Luthors DNA right?? Not in this show! He was made by like a cult in the tv show for whatever reson
They compleatly changed his character like compleatly and its probally one of the biggest resons why i dont like this show
but i guess ill give them points on actually putting in the right super boy because its the only charachter who was actually a member of the young justece
Third off, they goofed up Bart big time
Another backstory they almost compleatly changed.
They kept in him coming from the 31st century but he comes from like a post apocoliptic world?? Hello??
The TLDR on Barts actually backstory: He couldnt turn off his super speed abilities so his grandmother (iris) took him back in time to wally so wally could help him, since he grew up so fast he was hooked into VR so that he could mentally age at the same rate goofing up his fear responce and makeing him very impulsive.
The thing is the time that Bart goes back to is the time that wallys the flash, In the show Wally is still the kid flash
Witch is another point in of itself Wally was never a member of the young justice and the flash (barry allen) isnt suosed to be around
Why they changed what Robin and 'Kid flash' where in this tv show only to later introduce the correct ones is unknown to me i have no idea why they would do that.
long story short they put the wrong speedster in there but later put the right one in there only to goof it up
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Fourth off
why did they change arrowett like that?
They not only changed her name and the color of her costume (why??) but they had a weird side romance with Wally and her wich why AND they changed her whole ass name??? Her name is Cissy? Why did they flipin change that??
Last but not least
Where are wonder girl and seccret??
Wonder girl is important?? literally what?? Not only that but they took out secret to? Shes kinda important?
Someone please inform me if im wrong on them both not being there I didn't watch the whole show its mind melting
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That' s her and she made like three of four big plot lines in the comic series.
Small things i wont elaborate on for the sake of lenght,
Why was speedy there?
I hate what they did to Miss Martian
Why did they need to change the whole timeline for this show?
I could go off on this show for literal hours and how bad it is but thats just the top five reasons i might make another post like this
TLDR: I hate the young Justice TV show :)
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dooplissss · 2 years
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oc&oc fic, thats it thats the post good night
Here is that look again, this time in green and hazel. The disappointment, the panic, the regret, the betrayal, it’s all there, but it’s so much worse when it’s him. He looks down at her as the thingpulls it’s scythe-like head out of his chest, and she know it’s the last thing he wants from her but she can’t help moving forward to grab him, break his fall as much as she can. And he’s just staring at her all the while, judging her surely, hating her definitely. She promised him, she thought she could protecthim, and she was wrong, every time she is wrong and she never learns. She tries to staunch the blood, begging for his forgiveness, but he’s already gone, her friends aren’t far behind, why did she let herself think it would go any other way-
She wakes up. She can hear herself screaming, she cuts it off before whatever is coming out can wake the whole ship up. Her hands come up to her face, and she crushes her palms against her eyes to keep the tears in, lets out a deep shuddering breath. It’s not a new dream, not by a long shot, but there’s something about the way that thing has messed with her mind makes her dreams so vivid. She drags her hands down her face, looking up at the faux night sky on the ceiling for a moment before she moves to get out of bed, but there’s a light grip on her shoulder.
“You ok?” Somlen asks, still half asleep but quickly stirring himself awake. Whatever she was screaming didn’t seem to alarm him at least, hopefully no one else heard her. The last thing she wants is anyone fretting over a regular nightmare, especially one so familiar. She puts her hand over his and rubs her thumb against it, telling him, “Just go back to sleep.” She really doesn’t want to see his eyes.
But ever the contrarian, he sits up and gentle pushes her back down, the slight dip in their shared hammock making her roll to face him. He cups her face, lets her avoid eye contact but keeps his own steady gaze on her. He knows the signs by now when she’s thinking about it; if he doesn’t get through to her now she’ll be closed off most of the day, and especially not today, not when they have to maintain their high score at games night. “Tillian. It’s going to work, you know it is. You’ve spent centuries finding a way out, you have proof, it can’t have manipulated any of that.”
She sighs, already admitting he’s right once again, and she tucks her head under his chin, letting gravity fit them together. “It was you this time.”
He makes a sound like he’s been kicked in the lungs before wrapping her up in blankets and his arms and kisses the top of her head as usual. She can just barely feel the pulse of his heartbeat where her forehead meets his neck, hear him breath as he searches for an answer, and she cherishes his humanity almost as much as he himself does. He swallows and puts on a smile, “You don’t need to worry about me when the time comes. I’m tough, you know, I’m scrappy, and I’m going to be unstoppable, we all are. That’s the plan, right?”
She’s trying but she can’t help the defeated tone in her voice, “I know. I know, I know, but still.”
“We’re going to put everything we got into this fight, it’s going to be sung about for ages. Or maybe it’ll be way easier than you think, how embarrassing would that be for it?” he chuckles and he feels a slight shake from her and knows she laughed too. His voice softens but he lets a little judgement creep in as he asks, “What makes you think we can’t handle it?”
“It’s not that, really, its not. It’s all on me, it’s always my fault. I’m supposed to protect everyone but everyone ends up protecting me instead, and they get hurt every time. I should be taking the hits, I’m the one bringing everyone down, I’m the reason they’re here,” her fist lightly beats against his chest with every sentence before he careful takes it in his, bringing it up to his face to chastely kiss her knuckles. She sighs apologetically, continuing, “It always picks on my partners most during the fights. With Eider it was having the time of its life, but with Charlotte… there was real hate there, just pure rage. It usually really loves to play with its food, makes them ‘tastier’. And I’m terrified for you, I don’t want to see what it has planned for you. It could be quick, it could be hours, maybe even days, but it’s definitely not going to be painless. God, I’m so sorry.” This time she wraps her arms around him, pulling him close as she starts to tremble.
He remembers back when he was a doll, just sitting on the bed (with permission of course!) waiting patiently for morning, and she’d scoop him up in her sleep like a real kid’s doll. The first time he’d panicked, worried she’d be angry with him, accuse him to trying to make a move, but no, she’d woken up and gave him a squeeze along with a sleepy “Guh mornin’” and gotten out of bed like he hadn’t been dreading her response for sleepless hours. No kicking him out of bed, no passive comments trying to get him to leave faster, not even begging him to stay. Hell, she started leaving a spot open on the pillow for him and an arm crooked in case he wanted to crawl over and make himself comfy at any point, always on his terms. When did that become normal for them? Did it scare her at any point how comfy they were getting, or was that all him? Sometimes it hit him how lucky he was, that not only was she willing to save him but she happened to love him too. The idea that she was worried that their relationship wouldn’t be fulfilling enough for him was insulting, and if anyone but her had insinuated that he’d have knocked them out cold.
“I don’t care. I don’t give a shit what it does to me, because what you’re going to do to it will be far, far worse.” He barks out a laugh and Tillian jumps a bit, “As if it could even touch me with you around, as if you’d let it lay a tentacle on me! There’s nowhere on the planet safer than being next to you, that’s just a fact of my life. You saved me and you just keep on saving me. I’d like to see it try to get past you in this fight, it doesn’t stand a fucking chance.”
He smiles ear to ear against her shocked face, daring her to argue against him. But he’s right as usual, and the corner of her lip tilts up. “Don’t flatter yourself, I’m only getting in the way to make sure you don’t discover you have a weird, very specific fetish, that’s all.”
He snorts, settling back down again. He ruffles her hair as she untenses herself, reality washing out the false visions of her nightmare. She’s told him time and time again that he doesn’t owe her shit for saving him, the curse is broken and he’s alive and that’s enough, but still he chooses to return the favor, little by little. It’s a debt he plans on never fully resolving, because it isn’t really a debt; after all his years of being a Wesmaine fuck-up, he sometimes forgets that not all things have consequences, not everything is revenge lying in wait or opportunists making their move. It’s always been hard for him to recognize real earnestness, but its looking at him right now in their bed, trusting him completely, before curling up against his chest, telling him to sleep well, and thanks, you know, for everything.
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sarcastic-doodle · 7 years
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When the antis for KC come calling...
So, @morleybell got an ask on the above topic, and I wanted to reply to it,but it got too long so I thought I’d make it into its own post. So the question was what to reply to antis who claim Klaroline is abusive.
Here goes :
Not even in the fandom since s5(never in tumblr!tvd fandom like ever) but I do skim the tag every once in a while. Came across your post, loved the general gist of it, but would like to add some and clear up some stuff you passionately stated in bulk😆, if you don’t mind. I’ve been wanting to get this out for a long time.
I think the crux of this whole matter is an element which is called a ‘morally grey character’ ; you know the ones - not entirely a villian but too twisted to be a traditional hero. Obviously there are naysayers who say Klaus doesn’t fit into the mold of someone w/ grey morality, hey haters gonna hate but the jury’s still out on that one apparently even though it’s obvious. Moving On. More on this later.
• agree with the SC part. If one looks at the whole picture from the start, Caroline got shitted upon and shoved to side by the writers and her supposed ‘friends’ right from the start in favour of Elena even by stefan. The afterthought. The girl every new male addition to the cast(not all but close) hooked up with. The secondary character whose romantic plot usually has their fan going “uhmmm not exactly the one I’d choose for her. This is just settling” because hey!one needs to fill up the episode, right? Who cares if she was a second choice?
For me, Klaroline came in at that part of the plot, where I was just about tearing my hair apart because the MF gang were really pissing me off. Caroline was never a priority, everyone was willing to let her be collateral damage in this ever revolving war against elena, she was just supposed to accept that her best friend is dating her assaulter. I mean I get that she is the cornucopia of giving, but thats what friends are for! To make these givers realise that enough is enough, now think about yourself, make yourself a priority. The Caroline I fell in love with initially, the one with the big dreams, the one who wanted to live live to the fullest, explore the entire world because yes embracing vampirism gave her that opportunity….That Girl was entirely diminished by the end. There’s growing up and having responsibilities and then there’s having to grow up because of not-their-doing responsibilities. Klaus had come in a AT THAT CRUCIAL POINT. I remember thinking ‘yesss, she’s a priority for once’ also ‘idc if this relationship works out or not, but this one can be her ticket and reason to move out of that soul-sucking selfish town and friends’
• IT’S A SUPERNATURAL SHOW. This. Funny and irritating why people forget this. The show depicts them as these all encompassing, good in combat and strategy, well versed in lore of the centuries, sensual, blood-drinking vampires…I’m afraid that goes hand in hand with blood and sex and murder and deceit. If you want a century old virgin goody two shoes, I believe you’re in the wrong franchise. For this show, its not about who is good and who is bad, it’s about who is evil and who is more evil, and that too is relative on how you define evil/what you consider evil. Also what’s blatant in this fandom, is the hypocrisy. This is what I wanted to especially expound upon :
So what irritates me about the fans the most is their hypocrisy. Also the puritan fanaticism some have embraced and loudly preached. I wont even include DE and Damon in my arguments, i think they’ve been discussed at length by all (like it deserves to be) this is better explained with Stefan. When people say Klaus is a mass murderer and has killed soooo many people over the years, ergo klaus is evil but stefan is my innocent bae(not verbatim but the intent is obvious)…. conveniently forgetting the fact that stefan killed so many people too, went ripper twice, in his 300(?) yrs…had he lived as long as klaus lived…who know whether the number would have risen or not (hint : it will)Imagine living on and on for so many years, the world around you changing, civilisations changing,people you loved dying, but you’re set in stone. Immortality has been romanticised like all get go, but realistically I can’t imagine someone not going absolute nutters every once in a while whether or not you have a reason to keep living on. The show has shown only the positive sides of Stefan and his dealing with vampirism which in turn makes him appealing, but I can’t imagine someone with Stefan’s characterisation - the broodiness and the guilt - would live a long innocent life. Psychologically, something will always make him crack. I know I’m coming across as someone who hates Stefan which is simply not true. S1-3 Stefan and S1-4 Caroline were my absolute faves. Believe me, I only watched the show until then for these two. But I realised we do excuse his murders w/ - he didn’t want to, he feels guilty, he repented, it’s out of his control. But ultimately clinically speaking(with my inner stefan fan supressed)…There were dead bodies. Families mourned. Lives were taken. Stefan regretted it yes, but it doesn’t give them their life back. None of these vampire’s victims (Salvatore’s, Mikaelsons’,Forbes’) are coming back. Why do we not still hate stefan or any 'good side’ vampires for that, but love to do it to the Mikaelsons?
Second thing I mentioned was puritanism. Simply put, this goes in the good box ; this goes in the baaaad box. Some people differentiate characters like - this is a good person(can do no wrong) and this is a bad person(be suspicious of this one’s dealings ) from the initial interactions and context of the show. Characters on the 'Good’ side in the start, are reveled for doing 'a thing’ ; but if a potentially grey character from the 'Bad’ side does the same 'thing’ they are jeered upon for doing it. Am I saying don’t point out and jeer evil wrongdoings of evil characters? NO. I’m not trying to be apologist for villains, most deserve what we throw at them. BUT But but, in this case, on this show, is the line differentiating them really that clear? Are these 'good’ and 'bad’ characters exclusively on those sides? Like you mentioned, Kol is killed, Klaus retaliates. Had a sibling from the 'good ’ side been killed by the Mikaelsons, pretty sure they’d have retaliated the same way. We cheer one but jeer the other? Why? The deed is the same, cruel and inhuman on both accounts, yet we celebrate one and mourn other?
What people instantly think when I say this, 'you’re probably a person who excuses abuse in real life too’'you believe this…you must be horrid in real life’….*shrugging* A. There is a clear divide between fiction and reality. one I have to actually live in and the other is entertainment. Damn sure I can differentiate between them. B. There is an actual sense is not automatically trusting the NiceGuy, everyone has flaws if you look hard enough, they’re gonna come out eventually I’d rather not be lulled in a false sense of security. I’m not saying The Mikaelsons are good people and they just need some lurrvvve and understanding. What I’m saying is the Mikaelsons are shitty. But so are the Salvatores. So is Elena. And sometimes so is Caroline. If its just fiction, isn’t it hypocritical thay we only hold few accountable, but excuse the behaviour of the rest?
When people say KC is 'abusive’ I always take in with the idea that it’s because Klaus is heartless mass murderer. Which he is. There’s no going around that. He IS NOT a good guy. That stabbing didn’t really make sense to me…why did he do it? But tyler’s mum yeah…if you can excuse the council for their behaviour, don’t be a hypocrite please when the favor is returned. On a completely different but still related note, this is similar to the bullying topic in HP. When it comes to being bullies for whatever reason, people easily excuse the marauders because ultimately they were on the 'light’ side. But draco is held accountable even though he was technically younger than james. But back on the topic at hand.
But KC? Like you provided the lines and to anyone who watched the show….Caroline was not impressed by him. Attracted to him?Sure. But she never acted on it at all until 5×11. She kept questioning his motives, was suspicious of his moves, never defended his actions, brought up his misdeeds to him when he tried to pretend to be a good guy, tried to sneakily gain favours from him utilising his interest in her, it goes on and on. You never hear a single praise for him from her lips (as far as I can remember) All she did was that she gave him a benefit of doubt. Try to understand his motives rather than just IDENTIFY. EVIL. KILL. Try to understand that someone who has lived this long, what goes on thay ancient head, did he ever want to be human? , how does he justify his misdeeds? But Was it enough? Well canonically, apparatently not.
And I get it. I’m not saying excuse the murders by the Mikaelson’s too. NO. I’m saying hold all of them responsible. Caroline. Stefan. Damon. Klaus. And then critic the characters after that. Don’t claim some sort of moral high ground when there isn’t any.
This show, these writers…when given enough screen time, they could redeem an irredeemable villain of their choosing. Seriously, for real. (Damon gets it but Katherine or Kai(this one would need toooo much work) doesnt) and people lap it up. Basically, it’s on the writers on who they choose to get to be the GoodGuy, which villian gets forgiveness for the misdeeds even though the other villains did the same thing. I don’t watch TO but I’m sure they gave 'reasons’ and 'backstory’ on why Klaus behaves the way he does. I mean if you think in a critical analysis sort of way, that is how a redemption arc works. You get to know the inner workings and history of the protag and what experiences made them the person they are, then it’s upto the audience whether or not they forgive them.
But I digress. What is the main point of this entirely too long rant, is that saying KC is abusive is just absurd. Not on this show, not in this context. If its klaus that is your problem, you better have a problem w/ the rest of the lot too. Also he is the one guy who was the only one who asked Caroline whether she would like the cure instead, didn’t use her solely to get to elena, prioritised her, didn’t think Caroline’s love to plan and shop and everything that does not scream stereotypical intelligent girl as shallow and superficial, gave her plenty opportunities to make something more out of her life if she wanted with or WITHOUT HIM. If she wanted to fly free alone for a decade or even a century or two, go for it as long she came back to him when she’s had her fill. Yeah, that just screams abusive and controlling to me😒
Bottom line anti kcs, I’m sorry you wanted this to be a black and white clear issue so you justify your hate. But it’s simply not. I’m not saying KC IS an angelic done-no-evil ship, but when ships all around are pirates, what’s another one,eh.
Also, might as well reiterate, I haven’t seen the show after 4×22, just kept up w/ the show from a lot of different shipper’s (SE, KC and SC shippers too unfortunately) blogs and my sister who watches the show, so I might be off w/ some of the facts. If any of them are blatantly obvious and it’s because I missed something crucial in the remaining seasons I’m tagging the people I’ve seen answering KC qs or were active in their KC defense so this post is refined @my-ownfairytale @klarolinedrabbles @jonsnowbitch
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