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Iâm forever an asshole obsessed with fire/ice ships so Thunderbird or Sunfire, fuck the inhumans one off and St. John. Also, Rahul Kohli as Neal Shaara/Thunderbird/Agni. Also Iâm sposed to be asleep so ignore if this is a shit idea.
For the record, I actually kinda like the Inhuman guy, cuz I mean, its not his fault heâs part of a trash franchise. I think it probably helps that Iâve only ever read one issue with him, so as to render it absolutely impossible for his writing to piss me off. I like to just close my eyes and pretend heâs a mutant. Yâknow. Like I do with Kamala!
Who is obviously a mutant.
(And like.....letâs be real. The dude is a pyrokinetic with a demon form, the codename INFERNO, and his REAL name is DANTE Pertuz. DANTE. INFERNO. Like, thatâs the on-the-nose-fuck-your-subtlety-we-came-here-to-be-pretentious-as-fuck-with-our-literary-references-look-how-dignified-it-makes-our-character balls to the wall character concept I am HERE for. Iâm like OH HAI I SEE WHAT U DID THAR. And theyâre like âoh yeah? You got it? Hahaha, we were worried nobody would, phew, good job tho. Totally adds to the character right? Pretty clever of us.â And then Iâd be like Hahahaha no, not even a little bit, but âscool, I like him anyway cuz Iâm easy like that. I put out for puns.â And then theyâd be like awwwww, dammit, we worked so hard on that. And Iâd be like....well, that doesnât speak highly of your abilities, I mean it was a super obvious joke. And then I stopped making up conversations with hypothetical people in my head.)
Also, in defense of comic book St. John Allerdyce and absolutely NO OTHER VERSIONS EVER because agreed, they all suck....
Comic book St. John is a snarky Australian asshole who in between acts of mutant mass destruction, has a side career as a successful romance novelist under a pen name.
(Iâm not even joking. Comic book St. John, in canon, writes romance novels in his spare time as a hobby. LOLOLOL câmon, how is that not a great character beat for a supervillain slash occasional kinda-if-you-squint-superhero).
Anyway.
I too am also trash for fire/ice ships because SCREW SUBTLETY, WE SHIP THEMATICALLY. But like, its gotta be the RIGHT fire/ice ship. I weirdly have standards with my fire/ice ships? Probably just because Iâm obsessed with Bobby Drake but whatever, who cares, how is that relevant.
I mean, OBVIOUSLY, you have your proto-fire/ice ship, the one, the original, the Word I came out of the womb prepared to preach and ship and like, spread to the masses....Bobby Drake/Johnny Storm. Because like. They are elemental dorks whose competitiveness is only matched by their dumbness, how can you not love them, I DEFY YOU TO SAY.
Iâm kinda meh on Iceman/Pyro, because like, original comic book Pyro and Bobby never even interacted I think? And in cartoons theyâre always totally different generations/age groups, and in the movies theyâre like....boring and stale and not even all that attractive and also did I mention boring, omg no offense to whomever wrote them, but I tried reading Bobby/Pyro movie fanfic years ago because like, thatâs the only movie Bobby fic there is, unless you want to read about him being an asshole to Rogue and/or cheating with Kitty and just generally driving Rogue into the arms of the much (much much much much, like ewww) older Logan or Gambit. Because srsly, so appealing. So obviously, I caved and tried reading Bobby/Pyro fics because like, they had the word âBobbyâ in them, and the bar is too low in my X-Men fic reading habits. And omg I fell asleep. I just. It was all just the standard m/m cookie cutter generic âgood boy plus bad boy uwu yaoi-zoweyâ bleh starring two not at all deeply written or well-acted meh-looking white dudes, and just. Why.
But thatâs what I mean when I say Iâm wary of fire/ice ships, because sometimes with powered characters like, authors think oh hey, LOOK ONE IS FIRE AND ONE IS ICE, THIS TOTALLY COUNTS AS THEM HAVING OPPOSITES ATTRACT PERSONALITIES AND THUS I DONT NEED TO GIVE THEM A PERSONALITY, RIGHT? Like. Theyâre just very boring and unimaginative in execution, just because they expect the basic premise of fire and ice/âobvious opposites attract, obviouslyâ to do all the work for them.
(Katey if you��re reading this Iâm super for sure not talking about YOUR superpowered romances, because you are wonderful and GOOD at writing and imaginative, and thus none of this applies to you. Requisite disclaimer.)
So, when they did this random Bobby/âNew Pyro Dude like where did he even come from I still dont knowâ hook-up, I was prepared to like, yawn endlessly, because I figured it would be more boring imaginationless âooh look what an obvious pair they are and yet still praise me for how clever I am for pairing themâ crap.Â
And I was absolutely right!
(But I mean, it was written by Marc Guggenheim, the odds of it sucking were totally in my favor. Betting against them being well-written under his pen might feasibly be construed as cheating. Whatever).
And also, the art did them ZERO favors, like I know theyâre both generic blond dudes in their twenties, but I LITERALLY COULD NOT TELL WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WHICH in any of the panels that they were like, in bed together or dressing or talking or literally anything until they started using their powers to fight bad guys. It was soooooooo bad. Like the art just manifested every âlook at the white gay date his mirror reflection lol what is variety evenâ cliche and beat you over the head with it.
(Also Bobby is supposed to have brown hair, which at least wouldâve helped a LITTLE bit. Meh. Still was gonna suck because like, nobody had any intention of WRITING them together, like, developing their characters and laying the groundwork for a possible relationship. It was just âoh look, the fire and ice dude got drunk at a wedding and hooked up, cool deal, now on with the story.â)
Anyway, the ONLY redeeming potential for a Bobby/Simon relationship in my opinion is ENTIRELY due to a fic I read with them. Its probably the only fic written about Simon ever, lmfao, so its not like the writerâs characterization of him has any competition among either canon or other fansâ renditions of him. But it was pretty well written, I actually liked their portrayal of Bobby, which Iâm SUPER picky about in fanfics, and they actually invested time in developing Simon and his POV and giving him an actual personality and shit, that wasnât half bad. So if Simon was written like that in the comics and their relationship progressed in similar ways, I could feasibly be on board with them.
But it wonât, so Iâm not. Meh. Anyway.
I actually really REALLY like both Shiro AND Neal, with the caveat that I hate Nealâs stupid offensive-ass codename, I know Claremont only named him Thunderbird because he introduced him in an anniversary issue that was supposed to be a call-back to the original Giant Size lineup, and he needed a stand-in for John Proudstar, but like....wtf Claremont, just use your brain and save Neal to introduce a whole issue later and stick Jamie in Johnâs place the way everyone else does. He literally went by Thunderbird in the comics already in his Hellion days, which YOU wrote, so why the fuck did you feel the need to be stupidly offensive and act like Native American people and traditions are interchangeable with those of a guy from India? Ugh heâs so....gah.
Anyway. So I actually like both Shiro and Neal, though pretty much only when people other than Claremont are writing them, lololol. Which is admittedly...rare. Because of all his pet characters, theyâre both at the top of the list of ones nobody else has any interest in touching. Bizarrely, my favorite run involving Shiro was when he was randomly shoe-horned into that Alpha Flight relaunch in the late 90s, that only lasted a couple years? Dunno if you know what Iâm talking about, the team with Radius, Flex, Murmur, Heather as Vindicator and Mac was a robot or some weird shit.
I have no real thoughts on either of them with Bobby though, for a fire and ice pairing. Tbh I canât really see Bobby/Shiro like, at ALL lmfao. For one, Shiroâs always felt written as though heâs a good ten years older than Bobby at least. Like theyâre not really compatible dialogue-wise lol. And heâs pretty much never had any patience for Bobby in the comics, which has a lot to do with most of their interactions being written by Claremont himself, and Claremont infamously haaaaaaates Bobbyâs character and trashes him any chance he gets, aka the few times editorial makes him actually use Bobby in a script. But I also think even under other writers, like....Shiro honestly is not the type to have any patience for Bobbyâs antics or brand of humor, like.....heâs like JP but without the superficial crush JP used in canon to view Bobbyâs idiosyncrasies as endearing instead of migraine inducing. I donât think any readers would buy someone of JP or Shiroâs personality-type crushing on Bobby twice, lololol.
I DO however kinda like the idea of Neal/Bobby? If someone ever actually brought Neal back and gave him a new codename and stuck him on a team with Bobby? Theyâve also barely interacted in canon, and the only time I can think of, Neal was super rude and dismissive of Bobby, because like, Claremont was writing it of course, so it made total sense for him to have the dude whoâs literally been an X-Man for two issues talk down to the X-Man of several decades like the latter had no clue what he was doing, lol. Oops, still slightly salty there.Â
But honestly, I doubt anyone who didnât have hyperfixation fueled grudges on a fictional faveâs behalf would ever even remember that one canon interaction, and tbh Nealâs pretty much a blank slate character wise. His only defining traits from what little heâs been used are that heâs fairly young, in his early to mid-twenties, from a wealthy family, a little full of himself but in a âreally wants to impress people and prove himselfâ kinda way instead of an overly entitled âi genuinely believe I am superior to all you buffoonsâ kinda way. And he was always endearingly enthusiastic and eager about new stuff he encountered from being with the X-Men.
(He was also randomly obsessed with Psylocke, but I truly think Claremont was like, well Iâm just gonna write him like I would Warren Worthington because why not. So yeah, obvsly heâs super obsessed with Betsy. Duh.)
Anyway - I would like someone to do something interesting with Neal, and I think his and Bobbyâs chemistry has a lot of potential and they could bounce off each other well.Â
Also, I like Rahul, but I was randomly fancasting some of the more obscure X-Men awhile back for Reasons (I forget what they were tbh, but Iâm sure I had them. I usually do). I came across this Indian actor named Karan Tacker and was like ohhhhhhh he totally looks like he could be Neal Shaara.
I mean, Iâve literally never seen him act, so who knows what his acting is like, but since weâve established Nealâs character is essentially whatever the person to actually use him next wants it to be, I donât think thatâs a big deal lol.
So this is totally superficially based casting, like I think this guy looks and âfeelsâ the way Nealâs typically been drawn and the kinda vibe he gives off.
Also, incidentally, having absolutely nothing to do with anything, let alone my selection process, by pure coincidence the dude just so happens to have abs for daaaaaaays.
But I mean. Like I said, that is neither here nor there. Obviously.
Of no relevance whatsoever. I didnât even notice, tbh. Donât even know who hijacked my body and ghost wrote these last few sentences, quick, call an exorcist.
....oh noes, is this one of the consequences of being an âantiâ? IS THIS MY COMEUPPANCE? *flees*
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1, 2, 4, 5, 9, and 10. go off đ
 okay im gunna mostly tick to the dctv universe for this but i may stray
me:Â âdctv universeâ its mostly legends and some flash lbr bc its late and i have alcohol in my system what is other tvÂ
salty ask list (answers under the cut, obviously)
#1 what otps in your fandom(s) do you just not get?
okay theres a lot of little crackships where i just yeah that can stay in the far depths of the sea over THERE bc wyd with thatÂ
one i will get into is c*ldatom i just,,,,,,,, i do enjoy their interacts i think theyre entertaining and what not but i just dont really see the romantic link between them at all its p puzzling to me really. like i can see them being tolerated teammates at best but thats about as far as that relationship branches in my eyes. len was ultimately willing to let ray die at the oculus and i think that speaks for itself
#2 are there any popular fandom otps you only brotp?
i donât know that its popular persay but captain canary??? i just really dig them as bros gaying it up throughout time no need for this unnecessary romance forced into it like begone demon
also vixenwave. is that popular again? im not sure. like its not that i would have hated if that actually became canon but i just think they are better suited as friends i hope they develop that bond a lot more in season three
um all of team flash basically (excluding iris + barry). but yeah everyone else like romance is justâŚ.i dont see it. theyre great friends and they care about each other but without the romance involved.Â
not dc related but personally for me i only brotp like all of the fellowship i dont care if other people ship them like you do you (depending on that particular shipâŚâŚ.no frodoxgandalf nastiness out there ya hear) but yeah personally i just view them as friends i.e. the hobbits and the three hunters etcÂ
#4 do you have a notp in your fandom? are they a popular otp?
im not sure that they are popular i dont really know how to gage that but???? i guess a few actually lmao like that i havent mentioned already c*ldflash and sn*wbarry is that even the name??? also shipping either cisco or caitlyn with mick or len like nah that has crossed a line goodbye
#5 has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?
yeah so when the fandom uses a ship to demonize other characters for really shitty and fucked up reasons that actually dont even make sense in addition its like HA okay yall are fucked and you cant stop associating that one ship with those shitty connotations and thoughts and its like :/ i literally dont ever wanna see these characters ever interact again like yall nasty smh
#9 most disliked character(s)? why?
oh boy all of the legends like bye yall
okay stein,,,,,,,,,,,,its not that i HATE him but,,,,he really fcuking gets my goat. especially since legends started hes just OVERLY cocky and really doesnt learn from his shitty behaviour often enough and will revert right back to it after he does learn from it and its like wyd u old dick take a nap like GOD stop talking down to everyoneÂ
rip really ticks me off like 99% of the time there were points in season 2 where i didnt MIND him but most of the time im like,,,,,,yeah bye đ he also has an ego issue and Never Forgot âIQ of meatâ
eobard can choke i genuinely find him boring af and he was useless imo
carter? also garbage dont go near me or kendra ever again (mon el is in this category as well nasties im not even getting into these)
um i can honestly say ive never found a version of HR that i didnt find annoying Noah Fence but he just isnt funny to me or endearing i just i could live without himÂ
to jump away from legends, tbag???????? like no. HARD NO. i hate him. ill always hate him. i can understand the purpose of his character in a show of that nature but i will never give a fuck about him or his redemption.Â
i dont wanna say lj but,,,,,,,I DONT HATE LJ HE JUST EXHAUSTS MEÂ
jacob can also Die if for nothing else but that kiss in 5x07 where he shoved his tongue repetitively into saraâs mouth im still gagging from that
#10 most disliked arc? why?
oh boy its prison break timeÂ
FIRST OF ALL veronica donovan dying like that? i know its not an arc but it was stupid and i hate the writers for essentially deciding only one of the females could live and that they were interchangeable like FUCK you and FUCK you againÂ
second all of season 4? no. dumb. the whole theyre not actually brothers plot line with how Shitty christina was i hated it and it exhausted me and i just thought it was a plot twist that didnt need to happen also did i mention i Hate her
third any redemption arc for tbag like i said hes fucking dead to me and i think hes way past the point of redemption and i just really am not interested in seeing that happen whatsoever (i.e. s2+ like bye)
also i wont lie i am quite side eye at the arc for snart in legends season 1 (and 2 if we are being honest but i dont wanna get started on doomworld it is LATE â one small thing, len calling mick a dog? bye đ), as well as micks. i dont really like the way theyve developed the characters from the beginning of s1 to the end of s1 i think it was done a little sloppy like they didnt have the time to really do it properly and it was a little bit out of character anyways in some portionsÂ
as well like i said they didnt really have the time to develop that relationship enough to the point to really break it down substantially as they could have it almost reminded me of doing civil war in one mcu movie with only 6 of the avengers present and the shitty mcu writing of them not really seeming like they like each other a whole lot for most of the time like show us SOMETHING MORE that would suggest this could happen
flash point. i dont like this. i am, for the most part, not a fan. i think its negatives way outweigh its positives, the few it has.Â
julian? i also found his whole,,,,,,,,,existence for more than a mere few episodes redundant and uncomfortable. also like p much everything with caitlyn has been pretty,,,noâŚâŚ. like whyÂ
must i even touch on mon el entering our lives and james olsen being viciously side swiped? probably not.Â
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