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Frances Ha (2012) Lady Bird (2017) Little Women (2019) Barbie (2023)
WRITTEN BY GRETA GERWIG
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butyourewrong · 20 days
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Movie girls in bathtubs
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Virgin suicides, 1999//Lick the star, 1998//I believe in unicorns, 2014//Black Swan, 2010//Frances Ha, 2012//Diary of a teenage girl, 2015//Marie Antoinette, 2006//If I can't have love I want power, 2021//Lost in translation, 2003//Priscilla, 2023
.:°~°:.Pls tell me about more you know of .:°~°:.
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artist-issues · 9 months
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About Greta Gerwig, Little Women, and Narnia
Greta Gerwig should not be in the Narnia realm at all. As anything.
The Narnia stories are inseparable from Christianity. Greta Gerwig is a Unitarian Universalist. This means she, in her own personal life, doesn’t believe in the saving work of Jesus Christ, which is a core belief of Christianity, and a core theme in Narnia. Everything in the Narnia books hinges on this, from the character motivations to the structure of the fantasy world to the way the magic in Narnia works.
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Additionally, the women in Narnia do not adhere to post-modern or even antique feministic values. They are celebrated for their love and tender-heartedness and faith, all of which require self-sacrifice. Aravis of The Horse and His Boy starts out a proud warrior escaping an arranged marriage and ends up a humbled lady of Archenland court marrying the Prince. Susan Pevensie is at her best when she’s tender-hearted and at her worst when she doubts and becomes more concerned about her own identity than others. The school that Eustace and Jill go to in The Silver Chair is derided for it’s feministic views. By contrast, modern feminism is opposed to self-sacrifice, and that is the kind of thing Greta Gerwig demonstrates belief in throughout all of her works.
Am I saying that no person who isn’t a Christian or some type of conservative when it comes to feminism can ever work on Narnia? Absolutely not. I’m not saying that. Lots of people on the Walden Media Narnia movie (the first one), which was great, were not Christians and did not believe in the saving work of Christ. But they stayed faithful to the source material, even if they didn’t believe in the source material themselves. So the story retained it’s autonomy and power.
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Greta Gerwig can’t do that. She has already demonstrated that she does not know how to make a story that hangs on to it’s integral source material if she, herself, doesn’t agree with that source material. She can’t be objective, and therefore, she can’t be faithful to what Narnia is.
How do I know that? Little Women.
I don’t care if you liked the Little Women movie by Greta Gerwig. I don’t care if the acting was “amazing” and I don’t care if Timothee Chalamet and Florence Pugh are great in it. I said exactly what I said. Greta Gerwig made a great movie—but she made a terrible adaptation of Little Women.
It was not Little Women. She made changes to Little Women. What changes, you ask? Changes to the specific pieces of the source material that did not reflect Greta Gerwig’s personal views.
That’s the cardinal sin for directors of adaptive stories or remakes—to make changes to the core themes of a classic tale, because you don’t agree with those core themes. That’s called mutilation, not “updates.”
Here’s how she did it in two major ways in Little Women:
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She cut out Jo’s humble response to Friedrich’s gentle rebuke of sensation stories, and replaced it with a feministic self-pitying outburst from Joe and s borderline apathetic, cool piece of feminist advice from Friedrich. That takes all the continuity out of it and warps the characters. That scene is so pivotal in the book. It’s Jo, respecting a man who is much older and excellent in character than any other she’s ever known, and feeling immediately humbled by him calling her out. She’d never have responded that way if Laurie called her out. They would have argued. But this scene was supposed to show what Jo needed from a future romantic partner. She needed someone she respected, someone who could be wise and gentle—two things Laurie is not. She needed someone who would help her take her eyes off of worldly success and herself, and onto eternal benefits to mankind, specifically, the effect her stories might have on children. His gentle, respectful, wise love (and the love of characters like Beth) turns Jo from a self-absorbed writer into a selfless mother, like her own Marmee.
But Greta Gerwig never wanted Jo to be a selfless mother. She wanted, and I quote, “Jo’s love to be her work, and her romance with Friedrich secondary.” You know why?
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Because that’s what Greta Gerwig believes in. Greta Gerwig’s life is her work. Watch any of her movies, you’ll see the smudge marks of that wholehearted belief all over them. She can’t even be objective when the whole point of a character is to make work secondary, as was certainly the case with the character of Jo March. No. She has to twist up one of the best American heroines ever into an automaton of herself.
The second way she mutilated source material is with Amy and Laurie. In the books, Amy and Laurie grow to love each other out of the character deficiencies that they make up for in one another. At the start of their courtship, Amy is ambitious and Laurie is lazy. Amy wants to marry for advantage, and Laurie wants to make much of his spurned love for Jo by giving up on life. And that’s it.
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It’s Amy who first wakes up to feeling something romantic toward Laurie, not Laurie, and Laurie is not the first to make a move on her. Laurie does not know he is in love with Amy until well after she knows she loves him. Then, he does not make the first outward advance on Amy. They both come to the same conclusion together; when they do, she does not resist. In Greta Gerwig’s version, he’s back to falling in love with a girl who’s resisting, because that’s where Timothee Chalamet’s emotional acting shines or whatever.
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But that’s not the worst part. The worst part is that she adds a feminism speech from Amy, as a reason for her resistance, and she subtracts the scene where Laurie actually proposes. The scene where Laurie proposes, in the book, is so beautiful.
The two characters are in love, they know they’re in love, and neither of them is insecure about it. Amy has learned that she needs a life-partner who knows her and will protect her, like her old home-values did, and not some rich aristocrat or prince. Laurie has learned that he needs a life-partner who can stir him toward change, not through big explosive arguments and hope of conquered affection like Jo, but with gentle love and sheer inspiration, found in Amy.
So, in the most beautiful analogy for courtship that ends in marriage ever, he proposes to her while they’re rowing on a lake. She’s sitting next to him in the middle of the boat, she’s got one oar, he’s got the other, and she says, “How well we pull together, don’t we?” And he says, “so well that I wish we might always be in the same boat. Will you, Amy?” And she says “yes.”
That’s it. No argument. No big, passionate, sentimental explosion like he had with Jo. No wrenched and broken heart-strings. He didn’t have to convince her. She didn’t have to resist. Because entirely without force, and entirely without insecurity, they protected each other’s hearts and came to a conclusion that was based on something so much deeper and more eternal than fleeting passion.
Greta Gerwig cut that out and listened to Meryl Streep and put in another stormy lover’s-quarrel speech from Amy about why she couldn’t be with Laurie because she was in Jo’s shadow, and feminism and marrying for advantage, blah blah blah. It’s terrible. It’s mutilation. It ruins everything the original Little Women had.
it doesn’t matter if she got some of the characters right. It doesn’t matter if she got a lot of the quotes right. It doesn’t matter if all of Act 1 of the movie is mostly-book-accurate. If you change load-bearing themes or character motivations, you show that you can’t be objective and faithful to the source material.
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It is fine if Greta Gerwig wants to make a movie about a woman who loves her work more than anything else. It is fine if she wants to make a movie about how women are under-appreciated for their minds and souls, and have characters that go on a journey to prove it. But it is not fine to use someone else’s story to say it. Make your own story, Greta Gerwig.
Oh, you already did? See: Lady Bird? See: Frances Ha? Then come up with something new. Don’t shoehorn your same beliefs into every franchise that is offered to you, like vomiting, then eating the vomit and regurgitating it over and over in new colors. Figure out how to tell someone else’s story in a faithful way, objectively, or else keep your stained hands off until you can clean them up. Especially, keep them off Narnia.
Greta Gerwig makes movies for Greta Gerwig, by Greta Gerwig. She can’t be objective, and for that, she can’t do Narnia. She can’t do it justice, she can’t do it faithfully, because she makes movies for herself, by herself.
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“When we catch eyes at that stupid party
I know exactly what to do
I'll take your hand, and we will leave
French exits from me & you”
Don’t Delete The Kisses - Wolf Alice / Frances Ha / Normal People / Daisy Jones & The Six (x) / Me and My Husband - Mitski
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ammascrellin · 24 days
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And when I'm back in Chicago, I feel it Another version of me, I was in it
lady bird (2017) / the bear (2022–) / frances ha (2012) / past lives (2023) / good will hunting (1997) / lost in translation (2003) / fleabag (2016–2019) / normal people (2020) / la la land (2016) / moonlight (2016) / sharp objects (2018) / the worst person in the world (2021) / call me by your name (2017) / shiva baby (2020)
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sapphireshorelines · 1 year
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intimacy across the table—a thread
Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle / Frances Ha / In The Mood For Love / Pulp Fiction / Modern Times / Nayak / Before Sunrise / Paterson / Kapurush / Hiroshima Mon Amour
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invisible-pink-toast · 6 months
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Top 20 Romantic/Comedies where the girls should’ve ended up together
20. Mean Girls - Janis and Cady
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19. The Breakfast Club - Allison and Claire
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18. Bring It On - Missy and Torrance
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17. Whip It - Pash and Bliss
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(if Bliss comes out as trans after the film like Elliot Page did, then these two will still be one badass queer couple!)
16. The Wedding Planner - Mary and Fran
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15. Pitch Perfect - Beca and Chloe
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(would probably be higher up on the list if i wasn’t bitter)
14. Princess Protection Program - Rosalinda and Carter
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13. Clueless - Cher, Tai and Dionne
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12. Legally Blonde - Vivian and Elle
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11. Frances Ha - Sophie and Frances
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10. Stuck in the Suburbs - Brittany and Natasha
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9. John Tucker Must Die - Carrie, Beth, Heather and Kate
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8. Ocean’s 8 - Debbie and Lou
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7. Calamity Jane - Katie and Calamity
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6. Bring It On: All or Nothing - Britney and Camille
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5. Ice Princess - Casey and Gen 
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4. She’s the Man - Viola and Olivia
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3. Almost Adults - Mackenzie and Cassie
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2. Miss Congeniality - Cheryl and Gracie
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1. Bend it like Beckham - Jess and Jules
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artfilmaesthetics · 9 months
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‘Frances Ha’ (2012) dir. Noah Baumbach // ‘Lost in Translation’ (2003) dir. Sofia Coppola
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robertacolndrez · 2 years
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Frances Ha, 2012 — dir. Noah Baumbach
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wasco · 1 year
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maybe my friends can be the great loves of my life
seven - Taylor Swift // Dead Poets Society (dir. Peter Weir) // A Little Life - Hanya Yanigahara // Lady Bird (dir. Greta Gerwig // The Orange - Wendy Cope // Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (dir. John Hughes) // The Perks of Being a Wallflower - Stephen Chbosky // dedication on a bench // The Miseducation of Cameron Post (dir. Desiree Akhavan) // dorothea - Taylor Swift // Close (dir. Lukas Dhont) // Frances Ha (written by Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig) // The Perks of Being a Wallflower (dir. Stephen Chbosky) // The Long and Short of It - Richard Siken // The Goldfinch (dir. John Crowley) // Graceland Too - Phoebe Bridgers
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moonstoast · 2 years
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—dissociation
frances ha (2012) // the book of disquiet by fernando pessoa // virgina woolf // caspar david friedrich // fernando pessoa // by me // holly warburton // sam by francine pascal // the edge of seventeen (2016) // the edge of seventeen (2016)
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annakarenina · 1 year
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Frances Ha (2012) dir. Noah Baumbach / Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton / The Frost by Mitski / Ask sent to @taylortruther
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wovi · 6 months
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perks of being a wallflower / a little life / matthias & maxime / frances ha / at a dinner party by amy levy
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girls-cry · 9 months
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At the end of the day i’m just a greta gerwig girl.
happy birthday, greta gerwig. 🎬📽️
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gretacelestegerwig · 9 months
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"I've never worked on anything that I haven't in some way enjoyed."
Happy 40th birthday, Greta Celeste Gerwig ❤︎
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hellish-cruelty · 1 year
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This parallel will forever have my whole heart.
Normal People X Frances Ha
Two of my favourite things. :')
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