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spacebabyu · 3 months
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a lot of yall are surprised about everything happening with Boeing but like….
do we not remember when they rolled out the 737 MAX 8s ? Boeing claimed no particularly new features were added to the plane (because they would have to retrain all of their pilots), but guess what ? That was false, and multiple planes went down because there were incidents involving the MCAS mid-flight that pilots weren’t trained on, so they couldn’t turn it off or even begin to be able to find where the issue was, they were looking for something they didn’t even know existed.
Boeing knew there would be accidents, but they also knew that paying out settlements from said accidents would take less money and time than retraining all of their pilots properly. Which womp womp, they had to do anyway, but not before flights Lion Air 610 and Ethiopian Airlines 302 went down (crashes that Boeing tried to blame on the pilots)
Before the merger, Boeing was definitely a “safety & engineering first” type of company. I’ve always loved the aviation industry, i’ve always been fascinated by planes but even more importantly, i live in the city in the USA where the most recent large loss of life crash happened (Buffalo NY, Colgan Air 3407). That event shook our entire community, my friend’s dad was unfortunately on that flight and lost his life with 49 others, along with one person on the ground.
the investigation was immediate, serious and thorough, and subsequent changes to the aviation industry were swiftly made and well thought-out and employed. i admired how well it was taken care of, and i’ve always seen (mid80s-2000s) aviation and its governing bodies (shoutout NTSB) as one of the most transparent industries that prided itself on being so.
Ironic that by killing their whistleblower Boeing put all eyes on them, i bet if they did nothing that the lawsuit wouldn’t have even made headlines.
RIP John Barnett, the brave Boeing whistleblower, and RIP all of those who lost their lives in aviation accidents
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filthyjanuary · 4 months
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new season of mayday finally and the first ep is about the ethiopian airlines 737 max crash i cant wait to get angry at boeing again
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will NEVER get over keyboard warriors blaming the lion air and the ethiopian airlines crews for the max crashes by saying “well but the american crews could save the plane 🤷🏻‍♂️” yea because the people in charge of boeing after mcdonnell douglas got acquired decided it would hurt their profit to tell low-cost carriers in the global south how to fly their new planes. actually read what happened instead of declaring tragedies a skill issue challenge
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collapsedsquid · 1 year
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Four years after a second 737 MAX crashed, Boeing Co. and attorneys for families of the dead are arguing over whether the plane maker should have to pay for the victims’ suffering.
Boeing attorneys say the crash victims died instantaneously when the Ethiopian Airlines jet slammed into the ground. They argue in court documents that any pain and suffering they may have felt before impact aren’t legally relevant for calculating damages.
Maybe along with the oxygen masks they include something to euthanize passengers in an emergency.
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b737m · 1 year
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Part 5: What do I think?
Although Boeing’s desire to make the 737 Max as competitive as possible as quickly as possible is understandable — especially in a duopoly marketplace like narrow-body jet planes. The industry that they are in cannot afford to put the desire for quick profit over safety. Thousands of people fly in Boeing and Airbus jets daily, and these people must be assured of their safety. Now, not all the blame is on Boeing, the pilots in Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines both made mistakes in handling the erroneous activation of MCAS. Some blame can be placed on the FAA, which was not as engaged as a regulatory body needs to be in the certification of a new plane. These issues appear at this point in the timeline to be rectified.
The FAA now has more oversight over aircraft manufacturers and the certification of new aircraft. It requires the disclosure of safety-critical information to the FAA, so that a system like MCAS cannot be concealed in the future. The legislation expanded the FAA's oversight and included whistleblower protections for the future. This legislation also includes other safety-related and oversight protections and requirements that will result in more scrutiny of new planes in the future. 
The issues at Lion Air and Ethiopian Air are less clear-cut. With the increased scrutiny of new aircraft, it's more likely that pilots will be trained on new planes before flying them. But the safety issues at Lion and Ethiopian Air run far deeper than can be accurately covered here, so we will leave it at with better training, pilots will be better able to respond to incidents. 
MCAS has been modified, it is no longer more powerful than a pilot could be. It takes data from both AoA sensors, and if they disagree, MCAS does not run instead, a warning is shown on the controls. MCAS can no longer repeatedly run as it did before, it will only run once, preventing the sine curve flight path that was seen with the crashed planes. 
There are a lot of points in the timeline we’ve discussed that Boeing could have done a better job, however, I’d like to focus on the way that Boeing handled their messaging in the aftermath of the Lion Air crash. 
I would suggest that Boeing fully release the information they have on MCAS along with training information on the 737 Max. With the training, they put out an update to the way that MCAS functions. They can require that pilots complete the training before being allowed to fly the Max again. Doing this voluntarily could go to build goodwill with the regulatory bodies — and anyone who may wish to sue or prosecute Boeing. Showing that they recognize that they made a mistake in how they initially rolled out the 737 Max. This alone should bring about a quicker end to the saga. If Boeing grounds the plane when the first report comes out about the potential future casualty rate of the 737 Max, and then trains pilots on MCAS and adjusts its functionality, Ethiopian Air ET302 may never crash. 
I believe this is a utilitarian approach to resolving this issue. While Boeing may face more severe punishments (Like fines or prosecutions), it may be able to salvage its reputation. Not least of which, the 157 people who died on Ethiopian Air ET302. This benefits society more and certainly allows for a less messy end to the 737 Max saga. Being forthcoming with this information allows Boeing to protect their reputation, it may even prevent the damning documents detailing inside conversations about safety and requests for training. 
Boeing doing nothing at this juncture leads us to the present where Boeing denied culpability and changes only came as a result of the Department of Justice investigation and congressional hearing. 
Should Boeing follow the first suggestion with the exception of altering MCAS, they may just be prolonging the time until the next 737 Max crash happens. This only serves to draw out the investigation process, and could end up being worse for Boeing, as questions then could be raised as to why Boeing did not alter the operation of MCAS when they created the trainings. 
Bailey, Mark, and Keven McAlester. Downfall: The Case Against Boeing, Netflix, 2022, https://www.netflix.com%2Ftitle%2F81272421&usg=AOvVaw3CSSsbMZpxvie5HD6N85Nq.
"Boeing - News Releases/Statements." Boeing, 22 Mar. 2021, https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=130336.
"Downfall: The Case Against Boeing." Netflix, 2020.
"FAA to reform new airplane safety approvals after 737 MAX crashes." Reuters, 19 Dec. 2020, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737max-congress/faa-to-reform-new-airplane-safety-approvals-after-737-max-crashes-idUSKBN29304N.
"U.S. authorities to assist in investigation of Ethiopian Airlines crash that killed 157." The Washington Post, 10 Mar. 2019, https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/us-authorities-to-assist-in-investigation-of-ethiopian-airlines-crash-that-killed-157/2019/03/10/29b693ec-4349-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html.
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Boeing is arguing that victims of a 737 MAX crash couldn't feel pain and suffering because they died instantly. Jayar Jackson, Rick Strom, and Sharon Reed discuss on The Young Turks. Watch TYT LIVE on weekdays 6-8 pm ET. http://youtube.com/theyoungturks/live Read more HERE: https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-families-argue-over-pay-for-737-max-victims-suffering-d38127d5? "Four years after a second 737 MAX crashed, Boeing Co. BA -1.05%decrease; red down pointing triangle and attorneys for families of the dead are arguing over whether the plane maker should have to pay for the victims’ suffering. Boeing attorneys say the crash victims died instantaneously when the Ethiopian Airlines jet slammed into the ground. They argue in court documents that any pain and suffering they may have felt before impact aren’t legally relevant for calculating damages." *** The largest online progressive news show in the world. Hosted by Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian. LIVE weekdays 6-8 pm ET. Help support our mission and get perks. Membership protects TYT's independence from corporate ownership and allows us to provide free live shows that speak truth to power for people around the world. See Perks: ▶ https://www.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/join SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ http://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks TWITTER: ☞ http://www.twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM: ☞ http://www.instagram.com/TheYoungTurks TWITCH: ☞ http://www.twitch.com/tyt 👕 Merch: http://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt Unbossed with Nina Turner https://www.youtube.com/unbossedtyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA #TYT #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews 230317__TB03Boeing by The Young Turks
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Wikipedia editors can be annoying pedants but they can also be fucking brilliant trolls.
For example: if you look up the Boeing 737 MAX, the page image is of ET-AVJ, the airframe involved in Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 crash, which forced the worldwide grounding of the type.
Bravo.
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anyasportfolio · 20 days
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Technical Writing - Ethics Journal
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Ethics Journal: Boeing 737 MAX Flight Manual (MCAS)
In 2016, Boeing made a request to the FAA to remove all mention of their new Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) from the flight manual for the new 737 MAX. In October 2018, Lion Air Flight 610 – a domestic passenger flight operating in Indonesia – crashed into the Java Sea only 13 minutes after takeoff. All 189 passengers and crew members died. In December 2018, it was predicted by the FAA that the MCAS system could cause up to 15 crashes over the next 30 years. In March 2019, six minutes after takeoff, Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, an international passenger flight from Ethiopia to Nairobi crashed near the town of Bishoftu, killing all 157 people on board. It was in March 2019, after Flight 302 that the first grounding order was given by a multitude of civil aviation authorities. The MAX’s FAA certification was investigated by the U.S. Congress, among other U.S. government agencies, and it was found that MCAS was to blame for the crashes.
What is MCAS? Well, MCAS, short for Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, is a flight stabilizing feature marketed as an anti-stall system. According to the New York Times, this system works by “automatically applying double-speed impulses of nose-down trim, but only under circumstances so narrow that no regular airline pilot will ever experience its activation — unless a sensor fails.” (nytimes.com) And it was just that – a failed sensor – that brought both Ethiopia 302 and Lion 610 down. To put it simply, Boeing didn’t think MCAS would ever malfunction, and therefore they never told pilots about it. It was because pilots didn’t know what was going on when the system malfunctioned, they didn’t know how to counteract it, and thus, the planes crashed.
What makes the flight manual unethical? Well, it’s pretty simple. The fact that Boeing removed any mention of MCAS from their flight manuals is very unethical. In my opinion, pilots should be aware of such systems that could affect the safety of their planes and passengers.
In conclusion, there were a series of crashes that resulted in the deaths of over 300 people. These crashes were the product of a faulty anti-stall system called MCAS that was purposefully excluded from the flight manual. When MCAS failed, pilots, who were unaware of what was happening, were unable to correct the plane in time to avert a crash. This was very unethical of Boeing because pilots should know of all the systems affecting their plane so that in the event they fail, the pilots are able to correct the issue before the plane falls out of the sky.
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brookstonalmanac · 3 months
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longwindedbore · 3 months
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• Boeing has not provided us with the documents and information that we have requested numerous times over the past few months, specifically with respect to opening, closing and removal of the door and the team that does that work at the Renton facility," National Transportation Safety Board chairwoman Jennifer Homendy said Wednesday in testimony before the US Senate Commerce Committee.
She testified that because of Boeing's actions, NTSB investigators do not know who on the Boeing assembly line removed and reinstalled the door plug that - months later while the plane was in service carrying passengers - blew out. •
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• There is one team - one team - that deals with the doors," Homendy said. The team includes 25 employees and a manager, and she called it "absurd" and "really disappointing" that NTSB still did not have names. •
ALL the foregoing while being under a deferred prosecution agreement set in place two years ago after the self-crashing of Boeing passenger jets:
• The tragic crashes of Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 exposed fraudulent and deceptive conduct by employees of one of the world’s leading commercial airplane manufacturers,” said Acting Assistant Attorney General David P. Burns of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division. “Boeing’s employees chose the path of profit over candor by concealing material information from the FAA concerning the operation of its 737 Max airplane and engaging in an effort to cover up their deception. This resolution holds Boeing accountable for its employees’ criminal misconduct, addresses the financial impact to Boeing’s airline customers, and hopefully provides some measure of compensation to the crash-victims’ families and beneficiaries.”
“The misleading statements, half-truths, and omissions communicated by Boeing employees to the FAA impeded the government’s ability to ensure the safety of the flying public,” said U.S. Attorney Erin Nealy Cox for the Northern District of Texas. “This case sends a clear message: The Department of Justice will hold manufacturers like Boeing accountable for defrauding regulators – especially in industries where the stakes are this high.” •
“If it’s Boeing I ain’t going”
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qudachuk · 11 months
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Some 157 passengers and crew died when the aircraft – en route from Addis Ababa to Nairobi – crashed in March 2019.
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skillstopallmedia · 1 year
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Ethiopian Airlines Boeing crash | US justice rules in favor of relatives of 2019 victims
(New York) The relatives of the victims of the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines plane in 2019 are entitled to seek compensation from Boeing for damages of anguish related to the psychological suffering of the passengers before the accident, ruled a federal court in Chicago. The judgment paves the way for additional compensation for the families. In March 2019, a problem with piloting software,…
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essayly · 1 year
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Ethiopian Airlines B737-8 Crash Analysis
Introduction The Boeing B737-8 (MAX) operated by Ethiopian airlines that crashed was considered one of the fatal aircraft accidents. It was also the second and the last to involve the B737-8 (MAX) planes, which have since been grounded by several airline companies globally and are non-operational. The events of that fateful day will forever be remembered by the victims’ families and the world as…
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b737m · 1 year
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Part 4: What do others say?
In regards to what others have said, journalists are not particularly generous with their assessment of Boeing’s choices and their actions relating to the development of the 737 Max, and the subsequent crash and the aftermath thereof. 
In one piece on Jalopnik, the author David Tracy expressed how concerning it was that Boeing, a company that makes aircraft would react this way when asked to provide additional safety training on the plane. “This dismissive attitude toward an airline attempting to prepare their pilots to be as safe as possible is incredibly disturbing. Also disturbing is that Boeing’s pressure worked, with Lion Air eventually accepting that it wouldn’t need additional training.” Tracy was dismissive of the response from Boeing’s interim CEO, “These documents do not represent the best of Boeing. The tone and language of the messages are inappropriate, particularly when used in discussion of such important matters, and they do not reflect who we are as a company or the culture we’ve created.”, saying “Yeah, no shit, Greg.” This tone towards Boeing at the time was not uncommon, though perhaps Mr. Tracy was able to say more than other journalists may have said, given the style the Jalopnik is typically written in. While this does seem a touch reactionary, In my view Mr. Tracy makes a going point, that an organization that claims to be concerned about safety, and that safety is one of their primary directives, to reject a request more more training on this jet and to then turn around and mock the very idea of the request, seems antithetical to what the company claims to stand for. The company can refute that all they want, however for those kind of words to be exchanged, there has to be an underlying subculture within the organization that has made saying things like that okay. An organization where safety is a pillar, these types of sentiments should not even be thoughts in the employees minds, let alone exchanged between multiple people. 
Another who expressed their dissatisfaction with Boeing was Capt. Mike Michaelis. He is chairman of the safety committee for the Allied Pilots Association, and spoke to the Wall Street Journal. His association represents 15,000 American Airlines pilots. He said “It’s pretty asinine for them to put a system on an airplane and not tell the pilots who are operating the airplane, especially when it deals with flight controls…Why weren’t they trained on it?” in speaking about the MCAS system. As discussed earlier, MCAS at this time was able to provide more nose-down force than the pilots could counteract manually. And in the Boeing 737 (not just the Max), pilots are expected to trim the plane often, especially during take-off and landing. When the AoA sensor gave a faulty reading, unless MCAS was switched off within 10 seconds, catastrophic failure was imminent. But because Boeing did not offer training specific to MCAS until the Lion Air craft, no one was aware of it, and no one knew that the combination of warnings that went off in both Lion Air and Indonesian Airline were an indication of a failed AoA sensor and that MCAS was running as a result. His pilots did not want to fly a plane that could potentially purposefully try to kill them.
When deciding to ground the 737 Max, President Donald Trump said “The safety of the American people, of all people, is our paramount concern,” though he did downplay the severity of the issue, and at least partly explained why the US was one of the later countries to ground the plane. He said “I didn’t want to take any chances. We didn’t have to make this decision today…We could have delayed it. We maybe didn’t have to make it at all. But I felt it was important both psychologically and in a lot of other ways.” The decision to ground the plane was made after data from the flight recorder and voice recorder were recovered from the Ethiopian crash. While I think that this could’ve been conveyed in a more convincing manner, I also recognize that this is the kind of statement that is to be expected from President Trump. There is not the conviction that should be forthcoming from a president, nor about an issue as important as a potentially dangerous plane that has already killed people. It doesn’t seem that he takes the issue seriously, and that it may have been public and global pressure more than anything else that contributed to this decision. 
Boeing. "Boeing Statement on Lion Air Flight 610 Preliminary Report." News Releases & Statements, 27 Nov. 2018, https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=130336.
The Seattle Times. "Black-box data reveals Lion Air pilots' struggle against Boeing's 737 MAX flight-control system." The Seattle Times, 27 Nov. 2018, https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/black-box-data-reveals-lion-air-pilots-struggle-against-boeings-737-max-flight-control-system/.
Doherty, Jake and Alan Levin. "Lion Air ‘Idiots’ Sought More Max Training, Boeing Thwarted It." Bloomberg, 14 Jan. 2020, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-14/lion-air-idiots-sought-more-max-training-boeing-thwarted-it?leadSource=uverify%20wall.
Tracy, David. "Boeing Called Indonesian Pilots 'Idiots' For Wanting More Training Before The 737 Max Crashes: Report." Jalopnik, 14 Jan. 2020, https://jalopnik.com/boeing-called-indonesian-pilots-idiots-for-wanting-more-1840999747.
The Wall Street Journal. "Boeing Withheld Information on 737 Model, According to Safety Experts and Others." 13 Nov. 2018, https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-withheld-information-on-737-model-according-to-safety-experts-and-others-1542082575.
BBC News. "Boeing 737 Max: A timeline of two deadly crashes." BBC News, 4 Jan. 2022, https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64390546.
Grosz, David. "The Case Against Boeing." The New York Times Magazine, 18 Sep. 2019, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/magazine/boeing-737-max-crashes.html.
Diamond, Jeremy and Gregory Wallace. "Trump announces FAA emergency order grounding Boeing 737 Max planes." CNN Politics, 13 Mar. 2019, https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/politics/donald-trump-boeing-faa/index.html.
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oliviajames1122 · 1 year
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Indonesia lifts ban after 2018 Lion Air crash
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Indonesia has lifted a ban on the Boeing 737 Max, more than three years after the Lion Air disaster that saw the loss of all 189 people on board.
The plane maker saw its best-selling aircraft grounded globally after a deadly crash in March 2019 involving an Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max.
On Monday, Ethiopian Airlines said it will resume such flights in February.
The announcements come months after the aircraft returned to service in the US and Europe.
More than 180 countries now allow the use of the 737 Max, with Australia, Japan, India, Malaysia, and Singapore lifting their bans this year.
Indonesia's transport ministry said in a statement that the lifting of the ban would be effective immediately and that it follows regulators' checks of changes made to the aircraft's systems.
The ministry also said that airlines must follow airworthiness directives and inspect their planes before they can fly the 737 Max again, adding that government officials would also inspect the planes many business listings.
·'Boeing played Russian roulette with people’s lives'
·Boeing faces fine for plane 'designed by clowns'
Lion Air, which operated 10 such planes before the ban, did not immediately respond to a request for comment from the BBC.
Indonesia's national flag carrier Garuda said it had no plans to reintroduce the plane to its fleet as it focuses on debt restructuring.
The state-controlled firm, which operated just one 737, Max, before the plane was grounded, has said it aims to cut its fleet of aircraft from 142 to 66 as part of its turnaround plan.
On 29 October 2018, Lion Air Flight 610 crashed into the Java Sea 13 minutes after taking off from Jakarta's Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, killing all 189 passengers and crew business listings.
Less than five months later, Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, a Boeing 737 Max on its way to Kenya, crashed six minutes after leaving Ethiopia's capital Addis Ababa, killing all 157 people on board.
"We have taken enough time to monitor the design modification work and the more than 20 months of rigorous rectification process... our pilots, engineers, aircraft technicians, cabin crew are confident on the safety of the fleet," Ethiopian Airlines' chief executive Toweled Gebremariam said in a statement about resuming 737 Max flights free business listings.
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