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godzilla-reads · 2 months
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My apologies to all my books because I am a mood reader and the mood right now is high fantasy, D&D, and classics.
I just started the first Dragonlance novel- Dragons of Autumn Twilight- and seeing if I can stick with it.
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When I was in middle school I remember reading a fantasy book that I was super invested in, but for years I couldn’t remember what the book was called. I FINALLY figured it out after googling a bunch of iterations of what the cover looked like, and it turned out it was the original Dragonlance trilogy! I re-read them last year and they unlocked some little nostalgia part of my brain, I really wanted to hash out my renditions of some of the main cast.
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Interior Art from Dragonlance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight by Valerie Valusek
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kendertrove · 3 months
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“Where’s the kender?” Flint grumbled as they plunged through the forest.
“Tas is meeting us at the lake,” Tanis replied.
“Lake?” Flint’s eyes grew wide in alarm. “What lake?”
“There’s only one lake around here, Flint” Tanis said, trying hard not to smile at Sturm. “Come on. We’d better keep going. His elvensight showed him the broad red outline of Caramon and the slighter red shape of his brother disappearing into the thick woods ahead.
“I thought we were just going lie low in the woods for a while.” Flint shoved his way past Sturm to complain to Tanis.
“We’re going by boat.” Tanis moved forward.
“Nope!” Flint growled. “I’m not getting in any boat!”
“That accident happened ten years ago!” Tanis said, exasperated. “Look, i’ll make Caramon sit still.”
“Absolutely not,” the dwarf said flatly. “No boats. I took a vow.”
–Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, Dragons of Autumn Twilight
This is such a good bit of writing. We get several pages of hinting that Flint really doesn’t like boats, and then this – nothing specific, just that one time Caramon upset a boat one time and Flint hasn’t gone near one since. Most writers i read today would give the details of what exactly happened, if not go into a full-on flashback, but this book just hints at it. Even if my memory’s right and a later book shows the scene, this is how you want to introduce something like that. It shows their long-standing camaraderie so well.
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sirgnomethegiant · 1 year
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I’m only just starting the second DragonLance book, but if Raistlin decides to go bad I think everyone else (except Caramon) deserves it. That’s what happens when you act like an asshole to a guy 24/7 with no just cause 🤷🏽‍♀️
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samcat18 · 9 months
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'Dragons of autumn twilight' is really a feature of its time with all the fantasy race essentialism, especially when it comes to the Evil Bad Ugly Races 🙄🙄🙄 but also it is fun to listen to because it feels like when d&d gets really stupid and slapstick, and some of the class features are really present!!
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silverglass83 · 2 years
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Starting my Dragonlance reread before the new book comes out. Riverwind just got face-melted and after sleeping it off in the Temple of Mishakal, the party is now heading down into Xak Tsaroth.
The scene where Tanis is looking down into a dark stairway leading underground and Raistlin suddenly appearing with ominous whisperings made me think of this. So I made it a thing.
You’re welcome.
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arceneades · 6 months
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Burrrffoooooot!
I'm on this discord server with like 20 other people who all play DnD with the same GM. Dude runs at least 3 campaigns at all times, he's a beast of a GM, but that isn't the point.
Point is, it's also a fun little community of DnD nerds but we do have a couple of people who occasionally comment that they hate Kender and Tasselhoff Burrfoot in particular.
If you don't know what a kender is, and you don't know Tas, I have no idea why you would be reading this but I will fill you in. If you do, feel free to skip the next paragraph.
Kender are a humanoid race in the "Dragonlance" fantasy novels. They are shorter than humans (or elves or dwarves) but typically slightly built. They are a lot like hobbits, except that kender don't feel fear and have no sense of property rights. They just steal stuff, not because they're greedy, but almost as a compulsion. They don't think about it, they just absentmindedly pick pockets or shoplift or whatever. Tasslefhoff Burrfoot is a character in the Dragonlance books. He's a kender, so he tends to "find" a lot of items that other people "lost."
So the typical complaint is that Tasslehoff is a joke character, that kender are an annoying race, and that the whole thing should have been dropped kicked out of the franchise and thrown into the sun. Because people see the "you must have dropped that" part of Tas and they don't see anything else.
This is an extraordinarily shallow reading of the character, of course. I would argue that in the original series, no character goes through as many changes as Tasslehoff Burrfoot. Here's an example quote of how his worldview changes:
Something had changed inside Tas. He would never again be like other kender. Through grief, he had come to know fear; fear not for himself but for others. He decided right now that he would rather die himself than lose anyone else he loved.
Okay. You see that, right? This character changes so much that a part of him will be forever separated from his home, from the culture he grew up it. These are young adult books, coming of age stories. Tas is the one who comes of age.
So if people think the character is shallow or one-dimensional, it's because they just can't see past that one dimension. They are stuck seeing kender the way that most people in the world of the books see kender: as lazy, thieving pests.
Some strong feelings towards fantasy races is pretty common. For example, I'm pretty annoyed by JRR Tolkien's elves. They're just so... perfect. They live forever, they're smarter than everyone else, better looking than everyone else, and they know it. They think they are better than other people because they are better than other people. Gross.
But, you know, give me a specific elf and I'll judge that elf on the basis of their behavior, not on the shape of their ears. Legolas is a great character and I would happily buy the man a beer at The Prancing Pony.
We have a word in the real world for people who can't see people as themselves, but can only see them as stereotypes based on their origin.
When it comes to kender, and especially to Tasslehoff Burrfoot. This really, really bother me. Much more than it should. I mean, what do I care if other people like or don't like a character I like or don't like? I'm not the character.
Except I sort of am, in the case of Tas. Because to me, his kleptomania is a standin for my neurodiversity. His trouble was my trouble.
Because remember, Tas doesn't steal because he's greedy. Kender don't have much of a property sense. They really only own what they're wearing and their sling-staffs. Kender don't lock their doors, they consider it impolite to be protective about mere things. He doesn't consciously lift things, he just does it. Most of the time, he doesn't know what he took or who he took it from. He never tries to keep anything that someone asks for.
Tasselhoff tries. He tries to follow these rules but he can't internalize them, they never become second nature. So if he isn't constantly vigilant over his behavior, he'll act normally (for a kender) and that will cause trouble and then someone will yell at him.
If you're neurodivergent, this probably sounds a little familiar.
What's even harder is that sometimes his friends want him to pick a lock or a pocket and while he's happy to do so, it's pretty clear that there are times when it is okay to be a kender, and times when it is not okay to be a kender... and he has trouble knowing what the difference is.
Again, if you're neurodivergent, this probably sounds a little familiar.
And I guess that's the thing that really bothers me about all the hate toward kender in general and Tasslehoff in particular. It feels personal. They're saying it isn't okay to be a kender, but I feel like they're saying it isn't okay to be neurodivergent. They say it isn't okay to be Tas, and I feel like they're saying it isn't okay to be me.
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brittanybwrites · 1 year
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Raistlin: Storm clouds, They come from the north. We have no time. No time! We must reach Xak Tsarsoth. Hurry! Before the moon sets!
Me at this point, getting a bit fed up with Raistlin rushing them: 
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bookcoversonly · 1 year
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Title: Dragons of Autumn Twilight | Author: Margaret Weis / Tracy Hickman | Publisher: Wizards of the Coast (1984)
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reyturnofbensolo · 2 years
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"When people ask me what Dragonlance is about, it's Star Wars. It's tonally closest to Empire Strikes Back. It's big, it's epic fantasy. It's constructed in a way that's closest to Star Wars."-Joe Manganiello
I really think Dragonlance would make a better tv series, but movies(in the right hands)would be cool too. Do I necessarily want Joe Manganiello involved? IDK…maybe not. It has to be done right. The animated movie was shit!
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Will it ever happen?! They just released a new book 8-9-22, so who knows…
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godzilla-reads · 6 days
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🍁 Dragons of Autumn Twilight by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (Dragonlance Chronicles #1)
Rating: ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️/5
Life-long friends, they went their separate ways, but now they’re back together though each holds a secret. They don’t mention their secrets and when a beautifully strange woman enters their lives they are pulled into a quest of shadows and hope, forever changing their lives.
I did it! I read a 444-page book and I LOVED it. The story was so adventurous, filled with action, but also reflective and emotional. Ever since I started playing D&D I’ve wanted to start this series and now I have. It was intimidating, but I’m happy to say I read Book 1 and I’ll be continuing this. The characters and dynamics are so fleshed out and fun and they have so much room to grow. I can’t wait to see where they take me.
Side note: the reason this book isn’t a five star read for me is that some of the characterizations did not age well and smell like 80’s racism.
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thecrimsonacademic · 2 days
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Dragonlance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight - Book Two Interior Art by Valerie Valusek
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kendertrove · 2 months
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Tanis was fumbling for his dropped bow when he noticed Raistlin sitting up. “Take cover!” Tanis warned, and Caramon started to reach for his brother, but the mage, scowling at both of them, slipped his hand into a pouch on his belt. His delicate fingers drew out a handful of something as an arrow struck the seat next to him. Raistlin did not react. Tanis started to pull the mage down, then realized he was lost in the concentration necessary to a magic-user casting a spell. Disturbing him now might have drastic consequences, causing the mage to forget the spell or worse – to miscast the spell.
Tanis gritted his teeth and watched.
–Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, Dragons Of Autumn Twilight
I love that hyperfocus is an actual thing all mages have in this world – and that it’s made very clear that you Should Not disturb someone who’s hyperfocusing.
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