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creteevidence · 7 months
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some recent undertale/deltarune sticky note drawings
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tigerbears · 5 months
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"Kris, now that you have "free will" what's the first thing your going to do?" "I'm going to eat an entire pie..."
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"I'm sorry wha..." "I SAID I'M GOING TO EAT AN ENTIRE PIE!!! AND NOBODY IS GOING TO STOP ME!!!!!"
(Some time the very next day)
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Their such a gremlin I love them!
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Accidentally posted to wrong account at first 🙃
Sure do love it when that happens!/s
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nintendont2502 · 2 years
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"Your choices don't matter" Vs "It's kill or be killed"
Deltarune Chapter 1 + 2 spoilers below (Including Snowgrave)
I can't stop comparing "your choices don't matter" from Deltarune and "in this world, it's kill or be killed" from Undertale, and I haven't seen anyone else mention this so here I go
Flowey (the first character you meet) attempts to convince you that your only option in 'this world' is to kill, a fact the game proves as wrong over and over and over as you progress - hell, the second character you meet (Toriel) emphasises the fact that there is other options, that you can do more than just kill or die. Flowey's belief is the polar opposite of the game's tagline - "The friendly RPG where nobody has to die!"
Deltarune Chapter One does a suspiciously similar thing - one of the first characters you meet (and the first character new to Deltarune) almost immediately says "If you haven't gotten it by now... Your choices don't matter." And yet again, this statement is contradicted by another character soon after - Ralsei, who says that if you don't try (choose) to get by without fighting, "You may not... find the result favourable." Ralsei seems to know way more than he should (which is a whole other post), so this dialogue seems important. Basically, Ralsei believes if we don't make the right choices, we won't get the right ending.
Even the game itself disproves Susie's "Your choices don't matter." - as early as Chapter One, the choices you make effect the world in some way. If you fight your way through the Dark World, you're forced to flee soon after beating King, because those in the Dark World want to help him - but if you spare every enemy, they come to help you instead. This also means you lose the chance to say goodbye to everyone before leaving the Dark World - a whole segment of gameplay changed because of a choice you made.
This is all the more apparent in Chapter Two, the first chapter to have an alternate route that differs significantly - Snowgrave. The story itself is changed in a major way by your choice to follow this route; Noelle's mental health suffers, Spamton takes over Queen's castle, and Berdly is (potentially) dead. Even in the normal route, events can change depending on your choices - Berdly can escape the wire in the final Queen fight with no damage, or he can break his wing, you can get support from all your recruits or from none of them. These may not seem like major changes compared to the multiple different endings of Undertale, but remember - this is only two chapters out of seven. The story is only at the beginning, and your choice's impact on the story seems to be growing stronger with each chapter.
The last thought I have about this is about Susie's dialogue at the start of the game: "Your choices don't matter." Technically, she's right. As far as she knows, she's talking to Kris, and as the game has proven time and time again, Kris' choices don't matter. No matter how many times they tear their soul out, eventually they'll return it, and we'll regain control. But Ralsei, on the other hand, seems meta-aware (to what extent, it's unsure). When he implies our choices matter, he could be right.
In Deltarune, Kris' choices don't matter, but ours do.
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[[BIG SHOT!!]]
//Deltarune Chapter Two Spoilers
Ash [smiling]: "Oh dear gods, that battle was a lot."
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evilmiku · 2 years
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okay so i’m going to ramble about deltarune for a bit so. spoiler warning.
I’m watching a video theorizing about what the dark crystals are and what they do and the guy making the theory has come to the conclusion that, based on what seam has to say about the dark crystals should you not obtain one from spamton, that the dark crystals somehow enhance the holder combat capability. I don’t think thats the case.
for context what seam says is “It’s no small feat to fight an opponent that has (a dark crystal.)” This does not immediately suggest that the crystals provide a boon to ones combat capability, especially considering that it doesn’t seem to do anything for kris, even when they possess two. what seam’s dialogue here seems to imply is that holding the crystal signifies strength not that it causes it. It seems like a bit of a jump to outright state that the dark crystals enhance combat capabilities when there really isn’t any evidence that supports it other than seam’s vague statement on the power of those who hold them. I’m not even saying that what I said is automatically correct, I just think its a bit silly to act like one definitive answer can be drawn from one vague sentence.
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chipperydoopcg · 1 year
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Hey Deltarune Fandom
I know its 3am as I wright this but I think I found something online that might be important- or at least, be something to consider- food for thought and all that jazz-
you see, I was scrolling thought reddit when I came upon a particular post...
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it starts of seeming very normal, right? I mean, it's just your average detarune fan asking about equipment advice, right?
but.. somethings... off, to say the least......
Not only is the wording weird when talking about Spamton, (with the phrasing of "Spamton dude" being particularly odd, as to get to Spamton's shop, you need to get fairly familiar with him and his character, but this user seems to be acting like this is their first time meeting him.) But Spamton HIMSELF seems to look... Different than usual. Or, at lease, different than his usual shop sprite that is...
and I was not alone on this sentiment, as the comments noticed too!
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which leads to wonder....
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... yeah, that...
To which OP provided an... Interesting answer....
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D-.... Didn't have the money? But, deltarune is free game? Or, at least, Chapter's 1 and 2 are...
you see, a while back, Toby mention online that Chapters 3, 4, and 5 would all be released together, and, unlike the first two, cost money. (or as a certain salesman would phrase it, cost some [[Sweet, Sweet KROMER]]!!!)
Not only that, but its kinda ironic that this user pirated a copy of a free game, and have the one character who has a history with shady links (or in other words, [[Hyperlink Blocked]]) be the one who's changed... Almost as if this bootleg game has its own bootleg of Spamton... The one character who literally tries to be a bootleg of ANOTHER character in-universe. *Cough cough* Swatch- *Cough cough*
But this also leads to question... are there any other differences in the game? I mean, it is a pirated game, surely there has to be some other differences from the original game other than some seemingly random shop sprite of spamton, right?
luckily, I was not the only one who was curious about this and a user by the name of kuro50 ask OP to quote:
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To which OP responded:
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how... convenient.....
I mean- don't get me wrong- I get that feeling not having any program to record with (though than again OBS Studio exist)- but even still, all of this seems a little bit too, odd to just let off as something "normal"...
but, than again, its not like there's anything necessary wrong about it either, right? I mean, sure, it weird that someone pirated a free game, but, maybe they're just some gullible kid online?
...Except, a user by the name of ThePotatoPerson510 pointed out a few striking things...
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And then... it all stared to click...
I went to check the profile and, just as ThePotatoPerson510 had said,
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"u/ThatDudeTobias, Cake day December 27, 2022, made 12 hours ago..." the same hour as the spamton post was made... almost as if the account was made just so they could post this.... (Note: the previous image in this post of the spamton post says it was made 10 hours ago. This time gap is because I have been writing this post for 2 hours straight now- coming onto 3 hours- as such, I give you this screenshot showing both the post and the profile, and thus, showing they were in fact made in the same hour-)
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MID WRIGHTING UPDATE: It seems as if there WAS a time gap between the two post, as its 5:24am and I just took THIS screenshot showing the time gap. Take this how you will I suppose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Now, about the name... It seem kinda... on the nose, to say the least. I mean, Toby, Tobias, seems a little to similar, right? But, at the same time, knowing Toby, he would be the type to use a seemingly obvious while still not TOO obvious name to fuck with us (he DOSE have a history with being a troll when it comes to his games ¬_¬||)
Also, looking back at the spamton image and comparing it to the name "Tobias", they both share one thing in common... They're both SIMILAR to their originals, to the point where you can tell what they're based off of, but, somewhat off...
As for the one other post on the account, well...
its..
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... A comment on MeIRL?
Well, what's the original post?
A..... Video of some guy walking up the stairs, only to keep looping up the same steps, unable to get to the end?
Well, that's... anticlimactic..... Sooo.... Is this just some random account then? Was all of this just for nothing? Was it all red hearings in the end? Well, that's what I thought..
For you see, I realized something....
Toby Fox is a well-known fan of anime, but, not just any anime.... specifically, JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE. How do we know this? Well, in undertale, there is an item in the game called a Punch Card
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When this card is used in battle, it says, "OOOORAAAAA!!! You rip up the punch card! Your hands are burning!" This increases your attack. "ORA" Is a common phrase screamed in JOJO' when one of the Jostar's are attacking.
Not only that, but in deltarune, main antagonist of chapter 2 is Queen.
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her battle theme? Attack of the Killer Queen
Killer Queen is the stand of Yoshikage Kira. The main antagonist of JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE: Diamond is Unbreakable. Which is the 4th Chapter of the series.
So, what dose ALL of this have to do with the video "Tobias" commented on? Well, you see, in JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE: Stardust Crusaders, when Polnareff, one of the main protagonist, tries to walk up the stairs to face DIO, the main antagonist, he finds himself in the same loop as the man in the video. Continuously walking up the same set of stares, unable to reach the end.
Meaning, the video that "Tobias", or, as we presume, Toby commented on was in fact...
A JOJO REFFERANCE, AND THUS, MAKES PERFICT SENCE AS TO WHY HE WOULD COMMENT ON IT
...... And so with that last tidbit out of the way, we are left with 3 conclusions that we can come to... 1. This "Tobias" is actually Toby Fox teasing us about Chapter 3 and or some other upcoming scheme of his he has up his sleaves.
2. This "Tobias" is actually Toby Fox just fucking with us
and 3. This is some third party not affiliated with Toby but still making something and teasing it (possibly and ARG or something of sorts) .... That or I've just spent over 3 hours of my life typing this up only for it to be a shitpost by Temmie or something :/
either way its 6:41am as I type this and I have not slept all night so I hope you liked this deep dive analysis into this possibly important reddit account that could hold significant lore for the upcoming chapters of deltarune and if you'll excuse me I'm going to go collapse on my couch for the rest of the day :) have a wonderful time zone <3
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blazepandaartz · 5 months
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[[PIPIS!]]
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queen0fm0nsterz · 2 years
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a concert just for me
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aliensodd · 7 months
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Pov:Noelle sees Susie doing a rude buster
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I spend to much time on the lights
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recordzz · 2 years
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drawing these characters over and over again isn’t enough I need to explode
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monofazz · 2 years
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mysterybracket · 8 months
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Elimination Death Gauntlet
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sadistiva · 11 months
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My favourite team 💛💜💙
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runasaster · 2 years
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"It's good that I'm getting stronger... Right...?"
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[SNOWGRAVE]
By: MC | Time Taken - 7: 20
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Noelle deserves so much more than what we can give her.
Poor thing went through so much in the SnowGrave Route.
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//Deltarune Chapter Two Spoilers
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Ash: "Why does Spamton NEO suddenly remind me of Pajamas? Shouldn't he remind me of MC&D or Wondertainment, if anyone?"
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