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I just saw a post saying "None of the Jedi who survived Order 66 are shown apologizing to the Clones for what they did to them :("

... LOL! The Jedi can literally be slaughtered down to the children and yet be blamed and expected to apologize to their killers for it after the fact! Yes it obviously wasn't the clones fault, Palpatine mind controlled them, but as far as most of the Jedi know their long-time allies turned on and participated in a genocidal campaign waged against them. Why would they apologize?

If we're going split hairs I could just as easily point out that the Clones haven't been shown to apologize to the Jedi either. Even after they started breaking programming they don't seem to experience a, "Oh my gosh I slaughtered the Jedi!" moment. One of the few interactions we see of Jedi and Clones post Order 66 was Rex in Rebels who seemed more mildly annoyed by Kanan being nervous and traumatized around him than anything.

Am I saying the Clones necessarily need to apologize as if they're personally guilty? No, if they know about the inhibitor chips they'll know it wasn't their fault. But in that case what sense does it make to demand the Jedi crawl back to the people they think betrayed and murdered them to apologize for something they didn't even have a hand in in the first place?

What do you do with a brainwashed army of cult survivors?

At the end of Heart Part 2, Etheria still has a population of thousands of Horde Prime’s clones. This is going to be, putting it mildly, a Problem for the Etherians. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen what happens to a cult follower when they are faced with conclusive evidence that their entire worldview was false, but you probably have some intuitive idea. Imagine if you said to a young-Earth creationist “Hey, here are multiple overlapping lines of evidence proving beyond reasonable doubt that life on Earth evolved over hundreds of millions of years,” or to a Scientologist, “Check out this evidence that L. Ron Hubbard was a fraudster who started a cult as a money-making racket!” You can probably guess that in each of those cases, the response is unlikely to be, “Goodness, I have been mistaken all my life! Thank you, kind friend, for relieving me of my false beliefs.”

As someone who’s left a cult, let me tell you, the clones are not all gonna react like Hordak or Wrong Hordak.

You might have heard of cognitive dissonance theory, but most people misuse the term, so I’ll quickly explain it. When humans encounter information which contradicts or disproves their deeply held beliefs, they experience psychological discomfort. This feeling sucks, and people will go to great lengths not to experience it. But when those beliefs are central to your identity and your place in the world, letting go of those beliefs also sucks, and people will go to even greater lengths not to do it. So they resolve the cognitive dissonance however they can. They might decide the person who gave them this information is an evil liar and lash out at them. They might find a way to convince themselves the information is in fact compatible with their beliefs after all, and then try not to think too hard about whatever mangled assemblage of the facts they have settled on, in case it falls apart under closer examination. They might modify their beliefs slightly to fit the facts ("Prime always said he would go away for a while before returning in triumph!"), and then maintain that this is what they thought all along.

As an aside, one of the landmark texts on cognitive dissonance theory is When Prophecy Fails, which tracks the actions of a doomsday cult after the world failed to end on their predicted date. Sure enough, the acolytes of this cult did not abandon their beliefs despite this pretty concrete evidence that they had been wrong. Instead, they started recruiting new followers as hard as possible. They tried to get social reinforcement for their beliefs (“This must be true—look how many people believe it!”) to help them cope with the empirical disconfirmation they’d just lived through. So yeah, this theory is highly applicable to cult behaviour. And Prime’s clones are quite definitely a cult.

So it’s fair to say that just because the Hive Mind is down and She-Ra has just kicked Prime’s ass into oblivion, the clones are not all gonna just accept that Prime is gone and his mission is over. Some of them are going to continue fighting, convinced that Prime is not really gone. Some will insist that their connection to the Hive Mind is still intact, and deliver messages as the word of Prime. At least one clone is going to claim to be the reincarnation of Prime himself, and begin recruiting followers. More likely, several clones will attempt this gambit, creating factions with names like The True Followers of Prime and The Glorious Servants of Prime. These factions will go to war with each other in service of their Prime (honourable, redeeming) against the enemy’s Prime (evil, destructive). As time goes on, these factions’ ideas about Prime’s teachings will diverge, providing new opportunities for conflict. If they’re allowed to go on long enough, probably some benign and progressive versions of Prime’s cult will emerge, teaching that Prime in fact existed to bring peace and freedom to the Universe, and that those warlike factions have strayed from the true path of Prime.

All of this gives the people in charge of Etheria a headache. Etheria doesn’t believe in retributive justice, and as brainwashed cult members, the clones have diminished responsibility for war crimes they committed while Prime was alive. So it’s fair to say they can’t kill them. But they also can’t just ship them all off to live unsupervised in a colony somewhere in case they radicalise each other and start another war. Sure, some of them will follow Wrong Hordak into accepting that Prime lied to them, and they will find meaning by travelling the universe, attempting to restore planets Prime destroyed. Some, like Hordak, will give themselves names and begin the agonising process of creating an identity for themselves outside of everything they ever thought was true. But what of the rest of them? They’re essentially adult children, ignorant of everything Prime did not want them to know. They also trigger PTSD flashbacks in a great many citizens of Etheria, who cannot look at them without remembering what they suffered under the Horde.

What do you do with that many brainwashed survivors? What does compassion and restorative justice demand? I don’t know if I’ll get around to writing this as a fic or not, so here’s the setup and you can let your imaginations take it where you like. I’m new to tumblr and to the spop fandom, so if you read this far I’d really appreciate a reblog. And if anyone else has already had similar ideas, I’d really like to read them.

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Separatists Nightmare

fan art of my version of nose art separatists nightmare from clone wars

I usually like to talk about star wars in general and I don´t like to demonize any character be it one of my faves or not but tbh some fan takes really make me mad, takes like:

"Ahsoka wasn´t being fair in her judgment of the Order"

I am like "The Jedi Council, Obi-Wan and Plo Koon included" sentenced her to face a military trial that most definitely was going to end in her execution.

Again, a 16 year old whose only support/family/people she knew in her life abandoned her to be executed by the goverment she fought for three years as a child soldier.

Sorry but considering this, any take she has on the Order, the obvious love she still has for Jedi´s ways, people and life but also the criticism is completely valid on her part and she should say it, in fact I believe she was quite calm in her reaction considering all of that.

Same with her warm dedication to Anakin´s memory as her "older brother" you know given he was the ONLY ONE who thought about getting her a lawyer and solve the mystery to keep her from being executed by their own government, he was her master and treated her like actual family and didn´t break his links with her after the Order expelled her on circunstancial evidence or thought she was wrong for leaving after all of that like Obi-Wan did.

There´s Jedi unreasonable hate and there is reasonable, based in the story criticism and this is part of it.

Another fandom take that really gets on my nerves is:

Anakin was a child problem for loving his Mom, his Mom was like a Jedi and understood she had to "let go of him"

I am like: Shmi was a literal slave whose only way to keep Anakin from sharing the same fate as her was to give him up to a bunch of strangers, Shmi didn´t know anything about the Jedi but knew being free was better for Anakin than being a slave.

Anakin loving his mother and missing her isn´t attachment, it´s normal for a 9 year old to miss his mother, he also had a right to be mad with the republic for allowing slavery out of convenience and with the Jedi for supporting the republic on this instance because it wasn´t jedi bussines.

"Anakin was an incompetent leader"

Anakin was one of the best Jedi leaders out there in the clone wars, that´s why He and Obi-Wan got the harder missions dealing with Grievous, who killed a lot of Jedi or Count Dooku who also killed Jedi.

He got the moniker "hero without fear" out of the sheer victories he got for the republic and the many planets he helped free from separatist attacks, he also established training for what would become the first cells of the rebel alliance.

He wasn´t just a competent leader, he was a brilliant general, recognized by his enemies and friends alike.

"The clones are not a slave army"

The Clones were purchased with republic credits by a Jedi Master, that makes both the Republic and the Jedi Order their owners, this is canon in Attack of the Clones and in the Clone wars.

They dont get a salary because they are merchandise, property of the republic and the Jedi Order.

The Jedi Order didn´t know about the purchase but the fact they didn´t say anything post fact about the clones being slaves doesn´t give them a good look as "peace keepers to the galaxy" they were more, in this instance, supporters of the status quo.

And no, nothing of this makes valid Order 66, the Jedi Order didn´t deserve to be anhiliated for all of this but the Jedi Order definitely were a flawed organization made up of people with virtues and flaws who unfortunately supported blindly a corrupt system. The Republic was the mother of the Empire after all.

I feel like sharing some of my problems with fandom takes, rant over :)

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Jango Fett's friends are visiting They are here to train your army [Star Wars Insider #95]

I wonder what the future holds for the idea of a Clone Rebellion being teased in the Bad Batch. I hope the clones and narrative get something of worth and value out of it because watching the Galaxy crapping on the clones all the time like GOT Joffrey did to Sansa with no reprieve is getting a little old. I need new creative directions, the clones are very capable and adaptable people, they have agency and skills, and it's a giant ass galaxy with a ton of space to set up shop. Just because Rex, Wolffe and Gregor are cruising on Seelos, keeping an ear out, doesn't mean all the other clones are dead. Rex always had trouble letting go, considering how he talks of the Republic and Anakin.

Additionally, just because Kix didn't run into any clones in his short comic story doesn't mean anything. Evidence of absence in the places he visited doesn't mean much in a galaxy as big as Star Wars. These natborns barely remember the Jedi exist every twenty years.

If the entire fate of the clones as a people is indeed sealed to perpetual misery and tragedy in all Star Wars media as some people say, I kinda wonder what's the real point in watching the TBB show and its clone plot? We might as well have just got to the tragic TCW Season 7 finale and just stopped and it'd be the same message.

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My Take: Personally, I'd like Echo and Rex's underground freedom railway to save enough clones for them to leave the natborns to their squabbles and go off and set up some fortified rogue states in Wild Space, with scavenged Kaminoan cloning tech for new clone generations. In all honesty, I prefer this because I feel Star Wars is about tragedy, but it's also always about hope too. I mean, if Zeb's people can survive...

Order 66

This prompt is based on this scene from the movie Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. In the Star Wars universe, the Jedi Order was a religious order devoted to the Light side of the Force (an energy field created by all life and binding it together). The Sith was also a religious order, but this one dedicated to the Dark side of the Force, leaving both orders at odds with each other due to their opposing interests.

At one point, Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas came in contact with an ancient artifact which gave him a vision of an impending threat to the Balance of the Force, and consequently the Jedi Order. His concerns were dismissed, so he took matters into his own hands and clandestinely ordered an army of clones be created in preparation for this event. This project included a behavioural modification chip placed in clones with the intent of preventing clones from being given orders by rogue Jedi. Master Sifo-Dyas was later killed by the Sith, who took over the creation of the clone army to modify the purpose of the inhibitor chips so they would instead prompt clones to obey Order 66.

Order 66 was a contingency plan the Sith concocted to eliminate all Jedi. Should a clone be instructed to "Execute Order 66," their chips would compel them to kill the Jedi they had been serving under so far. Order 66 ultimately wiped out nearly all the Jedi and allowed the Sith to gain dominion over the galaxy.

Mind control, hypnosis, programming, and anything conceivably related to this fictional event or any of its characteristics falls under this prompt.

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Waxer during Innocents of Ryloth

Waxer: I met this kid two seconds ago but if anything happened to her I would kill everyone on this planet and then myself.

RX-200 Falchion-class assault tanks were a variety of repulsor hover tank used by the Republic during the Clone Wars. Resembling their larger cousin, the SPHA-T, Falchions were equipped with large stun cannons capable of draining power from a target upon impact. Their size allowed them to act as formidable anti-aircraft weapons.

Source - Star Wars: The Clone Wars “The Zillo Beast Strikes Back” (2010)

First Appearance - Star Wars: The Clone Wars “The Zillo Beast” (2010)

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