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hyacynta · 2 years

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nico.... why did you like the camp half-blood orientation film so much...

the film that apollo directed...

that was literally just apollo showing off...

hmm...

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ssavinggrace · 4 months

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YALL APART OF MY GIFTS THIS YEAR I GOT CHB CONFIDENTIAL, CAMP JUPITER CLASSIFIED, ABD DEMIGOD FILES

#pjo #chb confidential #camp Jupiter classified #demigod files

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hyacjnthus · 2 years

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Nico’s mind, when he sang the orientation song at the campfire: There’s nothing I hate more than being the centre of attention, yet here I am, all eyes on me…

#nico di angelo #will solace #solangelo #percy jackson #camp half blood confidential #chb confidential #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo #source: saiki k

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goldrushenthusiast · 2 years

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Imagine Nico and Apollo teaming up and being an absolute menace team that even Will is afraid of but also Nico suggesting that his dad play the CHB intro video as a form of Punishment for the fields, and Apollo having a little chat with his son suggesting forms of punishments that involve straight couple tiktok pranks.

#pjo #percy jackson #heroes of olympus #pjo memes #trials of apollo #pjo hoo toa #will solace #emo ass nico #nico x will #nico di angelo #solangelo #apollo #toa #hoo #hades #those poor campers who filmed it #Nico and apollos friendship is everything #started reading CHB confidential

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apollosgiftofprophecy · 4 months

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UPDATED 1/29/24

this was inspired by @lubble-underscore's post and I decided to expand on the iceberg and see how much I could throw on it

thanks to the Discord server for filling in on things that didn't cross my mind! :D

feel free to save and highlight what you know :3 Links to many of these things are below - some are not tho!

Tier 1 - do we even need to SAY anything?

pathetic little meow meow

bisexual

unreliable narrator

Tier 2 - surface level/easy to see

superiority/inferiority complex

bitchsexual (i mean... points to commodus)

raised chiron (see CHB Confidential)

Tier 3 - complete read-through/reread; taking first steps into fandom

breaks cycle of abuse

polldona

great with kids, actually (see Harley, Georgie, ect.)

ordered pizza to chb (see The Hidden Oracle)

domains contradict

best godly parent

still heavily affected by past lovers (see The Whole Series)

Tier 4 - digging a little deeper

love life isn't actually terrible

definitely tried to bang frey at least once (see that One throwaway line in The Hidden Oracle)

malewife malewhore manslaughter

broke up the beatles because paul jilted him (Discord)

sees the faces of primordial gods (see The Hidden Oracle)

copollo could have worked

catboy but cats are competition (See The Tyrant's Tomb; submitted by @trials-of-apollo-my-beloved)

freakishly high pain tolerance (See THE ENTIRE SERIES)

Tier 5 - holy shit we're on to something

that apollo & jesus fic (Discord)

knew hades had kids in TTC

pressured to be the perfect son

fatal flaw is love

not as close to hermes as he used to be

seahorsed kayla

patron of CHB

roman apollo au (Discord: Creator chronictheorizing)

Tier 6 - wait what. OH!

was forced to punish halcyon green

deathsong (Discord: Creator @txny-dragon) (addition)

kids are greek & roman

michael yew is most like him

brings change by being his true self and not the fake one (Submitted by @/txny-dragon)

laomedon is why he hates slavery (Discord: Creator @ukelele-boy)

intentionally made the orientation video to communicate info on the gods

Tier 7 - what the fuck did we get ourselves into

directed travis & conner to tartarus tongs

Apollo x Orion is peek hateship (Discord: Origin in Tsari's server during Eclipse)

unlocked heavenly prophecy powers during trials

dated oscar wilde and inspired the picture of dorian gray (Discord)

half-titan theory

tartarus regenerated him

imperial kids were meant to usurp the olympians

Tier 8 - we're in too deep but will never come out

knows estelle is omen of end of the world

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divkazkdovikde · 4 months

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the ultimate guide

CAMP HALF-BLOOD CHRONICLES

percy jackson and the olympians

the demigod diaries: the diary of luke castellan (takes place 5 years before the lightning thief)

- the lightning thief

- the sea of monsters

- the titan’s curse

- the battle of the labyrinth

the demigod files: percy jackson and the stolen chariot

the demigod files: percy jackson and the bronze dragon

the demigod files: percy jackson and the sword of hades

- the last olympians

the demigod diaries: percy jackson and the staff of hermes

the heroes of olympus

the prophecy of the seven, the whole gang

- the lost hero

the demigod diaries: leo valdez and the quest for buford

- the son of neptune

- the mark of athena

the demigod diaries: son of magic (non-canonical, contradictory to the events in the house of hades and the blood of olympus)

- the house of hades

- the blood of olympus

percy jackson and the chalice of the gods

6th book of percy jackson and the olympians, taking place after the events of the blood of olympus, and before the trials of apollo

+ more to be announced, 7th book of pjo: the wrath of the tripple goddes, release date 24/9/2024

the trials of apollo

- the hidden oracle

- the dark prophecy

- the burning maze

- the tyrant’s tomb

- the tower of nero

supplementary works:

- camp half-blood confidential (background facts about CHB)

- camp jupiter justified (story of claudia)

the sun and the star

takes place after the events of the tower of nero, nico and will’s book

OTHER SERIES & CROSSOVERS

the kane chronicles

in the same universe as chb chronicles, takes place around the same time as heroes of the olympus

- the red pyramid

- the throne of fire

- the serpent’s shadow

supplementary works:

- survival guide

- brooklyn house magician’s manual

demigods and magicians

percy jackson and the kanes crossover, shortstories

- the son of sobek

- the staff of serapis

- the crown of ptolemy

magnus chase and the gods of asgard

in the same universe as chb chronicles and the kane chronicles, takes place around the same time as the trials of apollo

- the sword of summer

- the hammer of thor

- the ship of the dead

supplementary works:

- hotel valhalla: guide to the norse words

- 9 from the nine worlds

alright, that’s a wrap, i’m currently rereading the whole percy jackson, (halfway through the blood of olympus now, hehehe), and the only reason why i made this is because i’m a big nerd deep in my heart and needed to do this for my sake and my sake only. i also have insomnia, it’s like 2am rn. but you guys can use this guide too, i’m nice like that

#percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #the heroes of olympus #the kane chronicles #magnus chase #magnus chase and the gods of asgard #the trials of apollo #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackson and the chalice of the gods #sun and the star #rick riordan #pjo series #pjo #pjo fandom #pjoverse #carter kane #sadie kane

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tsarinatorment · 2 years

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oo now im interested in that apollo is chb'd patron thing would you care to elaborate on that??

@stereden also asked this! There's not so much canon for this as some of the other things I've talked about but there's still a few things to say on the topic, and not only am I going to talk about him being the patron, I'm going to talk about how that works with the things that happen with CHB during the PJO series, and of course because we're talking about Apollo, there's the odd little titbit from TOA that makes its way into this, too.

A lot of this will be extrapolation, but I've done my best to keep more floating headcanons out of it, so this should at least all stem convincingly from canon.

I'm going to address two things under this umbrella, because I think they're related and also because I find them fascinating: Apollo as the patron god of CHB, and Apollo's loss of jurisdiction over CHB by the events of canon.

So, Apollo and the patronage of CHB. While Camp Half-Blood Confidential is pretty goofy and daft in tone, it gives us a few important little nuggets of information regarding the founding of the camp, namely that it was Apollo's idea - or at the very least, Apollo foresaw that it would happen/needed to happen.

As it turned out, giving Apollo a centaur-back ride was the smartest thing I ever did. Unlike others of my kind, I didn’t belong to a specific tribe. I was a loner…and, sometimes, lonely. We bonded during that ride. I found that Apollo could be quite charming one-on-one, when he wasn’t trying to impress his adoring throngs of fans. When we got back to the cave, he said something that changed my life. “Uncle Chiron, I’ve decided to teach you some stuff.” Perhaps he found the idea amusing: a nephew teaching his uncle. Or maybe, being the god of prophecy, he suspected I had an important role to play in the future of Olympus. Whatever the reason, he chose to share his knowledge with me. At first, he showed me simple things, like how to nock an arrow—“Aim the pointy end away from your body”—and how to bandage a gushing battle wound. He taught me to make a lyre, play a number of hits like “Stairway to Olympus” and “Burnt-Offering Smoke on the Water,” and even compose my own lyrics. Once, in an effort to refine my poetry skills, he sent me on a quest to find a rhyme for arugula so that he could finish an ode to a mixed-green salad. The best I could do was pergola. Apollo called my effort an “ode fail”—the ancient precursor to today’s “epic fail”—but he continued to work with me. The lessons went on for a year. Then one day, Apollo showed up at the doorway of my cave with a half-dozen young demigods. “You know all that stuff I taught you?” he asked me. “It’s time to pay it forward! I’d like you to meet Achilles, Aeneas, Jason, Atalanta, Asclepius, and Percy—” “It’s Perseus, sir,” said one of the young men. “Whatever!” Apollo grinned with delight. “Chiron, teach them everything I showed you. Y’all have fun!” Then he vanished.

I have high doubts that this is exactly how it went down - I don't think those six demigods were all direct contemporaries of each other, mythologically, for starters - but they were all trained by Chiron and it makes sense for Apollo to be the one to introduce them, especially as he's the one that trained Chiron in the first place, and paying things forward is not a new or novel idea, especially when it comes to knowledge (after all, that's how teaching works even now - kids learn things, grow up, the next generation of kids start learning from them. That's just how humanity works).

From here, of course CHB continues to expand until it's the camp we know and love today. Chiron details this out for us (again, I don't believe the actual way he tells it, but the basic facts if not the very fictionised retelling seem solid). I won't copy out all of that, but I will make note of Apollo's direct involvement within the expansion, that that's the addition of the satyrs:

The satyrs arrived en masse with this note from Apollo: I predict that in the future, demigods won’t be able to find Camp Half-Blood on their own. The world will simply be too large, too populous, and too dangerous. When that time comes, send satyrs to track down your prospective students. Satyrs can find anything. They recently located a herd of cattle Hermes stole from me that even I couldn’t find. Trust me: you need seekers, and they’re the goats for the job.

Apollo is the one that's actively looking out for future demigods and their safety here. It's understandable that he's the one that knew it would be needed, because of his foresight and prophecy powers, but the fact that he acts on it so early, making sure the Camp is fully equipped to handle it with the satyrs long before they'll be needed, shows that side of him that he tends to not advertise in modern times - the side that wants to look after and protect the demigods.

That's two of the most important parts of CHB - its existence, and the satyr protector-guides - both directly attributed to Apollo himself, tying him more firmly than any other god to the camp. With this in mind, who else could possibly be the patron of the camp, if not for the god of knowledge whose own teachings are being passed down, and who actively worked to ensure the safety of future demigods?

The third thing is not explicitly Apollo, but considering the pattern it seems most likely, and that's the defences around CHB, back pre-Thalia's tree.

You see, I knew that so many demigods living in one place was like an all-you-can-kill buffet for monsters. Yet I had convinced myself that our campers needed no other protection than the skills we taught them. My pride had nearly been our destruction, but I learned my lesson. I immediately sent an Iris-message to Olympus asking for help. The gods heard our plea. The next day, a magical border settled over and around the grounds—a barrier that would both conceal the camp from unfriendly eyes and repel future attacks.

It's just the general "the gods" mentioned here, but considering that Apollo is the most involved god so far in the camp, if he isn't the one that did this himself (unlikely), he's certainly one of the gods that was involved in making sure this protection happened.

Another minor little detail to note is in the symbolism of the battle that occurs which prompts Chiron to request for aid here. To summarise for those who haven't read this story, the campers are nearly defeated, and it's only last-minute reinforcements from past campers that saves the day:

Then, just as rosy-fingered dawn peeked over the horizon, a new battle cry sounded in the distance. Former campers who had learned of our desperate plight now came charging to our aid.

The reinforcements came at dawn. Yes, I know that's a favourite trope in media (see the very memorable Battle for Helm's Deep in The Two Towers), but that doesn't make it any less fitting here - the camp was saved at dawn, which is the time when Apollo takes to the sky (and yes, by this time chronologically, Helios has already faded and Apollo is the god of the sun, according to Chiron's description of their first meeting:

“Ah…yes, Lord Apollo.” I tried to control the twitching in my withers. “Very weird indeed.” I noticed the sky was darkening even though it was only noon. “Not to be critical, O Great One, but shouldn’t you be driving the sun chariot right now?” He shrugged. “Actually, I put it in park for a few minutes because Artemis is up there doing her lunar-eclipse thing.” He scratched his fashionably stubbled chin. “Or is it solar? I can never keep them straight.”

It's likely that this isn't long after Apollo took on the role, although of course he could have just been goofing around with the lunar-solar mix-up, but he is still, in this narrative, the god of the sun by this point).

The implication here is very much that Apollo's the one who called the older demigods to help (presumably the Ancient Laws are in effect at this point - in fact, that may even be why Apollo had to pass on the responsibility of teaching to Chiron in the first place, with the advent of the no interference Laws) which again adds some credence to the idea that he's also one of the gods, if not the god, who supplied the original defensive barrier for CHB.

So, that's Apollo's involvement in the original CHB, way back when, and I don't think it can really be argued any other way than that at this point, at least, he was the patron god of the camp.

But what about modern times?

Modern times gets more confusing. I still believe that Apollo is, on a technicality, the patron of the camp, but in practicality he no longer seems to have any jurisdiction over it.

He still keeps an eye on the camp - no matter how he tries to throw us off the scent in TOA, there are some slip-ups in his narration that give us a glimpse of the god who is not at all distant from camp emotionally, even if he's physically forced to be.

Over the centuries, I’d had many conversations with demigods who wanted to know more about their absentee godly parents. Those talks rarely went well.

From this it's clear that he does spend time with the demigods at camp, historically (although not recently, which I suspect has a lot to do with Dionysus' forced presence, either because Apollo fears being reported to Zeus, or because there's a rule about only one Olympian god near the camp at a time). He cares about them and goes out of his way to reassure them - all of them, not just his own children.

He also remembers names. There are twenty two campers present during THO, including Meg, and during Apollo's narration we are given the names of every single one. The facts he gives us are precise, and the fact that he is able to perfectly recall every name after being introduced once (especially when we contrast this with Dionysus' refusal to get most demigod names right even if he's known them for a decade) implies a strong level of care. And no, this is not just because it's in winter and therefore Rick had a small enough cast number that he could afford to name them all - in TTC there is a similar number of demigods in the camp, yet Percy, who lives with these people for several months of the year, never gives us names. In fact, we learn in BOTL that Percy doesn't bother to learn some of the camper names at all. This is Apollo caring about these children.

“Let me guess,” I said. “Connor and Travis Stoll are the pranksters?” From a nearby basket, Chiron grabbed a flannel blanket and spread it over his fake legs, though the ruby shoes still peeked out at the bottom. “Actually, Travis went off to college last autumn, which has mellowed Connor quite a bit.”

Not only does he know their names, he also knows their habits and personalities. That's not just a basic level of reading names off a roll list, that's Apollo being actively aware of the children at camp as individuals.

It's also shown less implicitly through his conversations with Chiron in THO. Chiron knows that Apollo cares about the campers - he opens their first conversation with this:

My old friend smiled, though his eyes were stormy and distracted. “Apollo, it’s good you are here. We need to talk about the disappearances.”

Literally Chiron's first thing is to bring up missing campers, because he knows Apollo will care about this - and Apollo does! It isn't Chiron who continues this topic of conversation, it's actually Apollo who keeps trying to bring the topic back around while Chiron talks about Python and Delphi and prophecies:

“Chiron,” I said, “this is Meg McCaffrey, my new master and wellspring of aggravation. You were saying something about disappearances?”

“Disappearances,” I prompted. “What has disappeared?”

“The disappearances, yes.” I wiped drops of tea from my pants and tried to ignore Meg’s snickering. “Tell me about those.”

He asks about it three times before Chiron finally gives him the information he's after - it's actually the thing he's most insistent about focusing on in the whole conversation (he keeps trying to dodge the discussion of Python and Delphi) - and even after that it's the one he keeps asking more questions on, trying to get more and more information. Apollo never says so in as many words, but it's clear that he's very worried about the missing campers (a façade he more or less manages to cling to until his own children are added to the number, at which point the façade collapses entirely and we see Apollo in full worry mode over the children).

So the question is, if Apollo is the patron god of Camp Half-Blood (and let's not forget his domain of protector of the young, here!), why did we never see him in this capacity during PJO?

Quite frankly, it's obvious that he can't. It's impossible that, if Apollo had any say over the matter at all, he would have allowed the sacking of Chiron in SOM. He also sends no visible aid during BOTL, but the Daedalus thing is interesting... But let's start from the top.

Apollo has lost jurisdiction over CHB by the time PJO begins. I would argue that this is a relatively recent development - there are conflicting canon statements regarding how long Dionysus has been at CHB (in TON, Apollo says he's been there for half a century but then later we get confirmation that Dionysus' punishment is far from over, yet in PJO his sentence was cut in half down to fifty years - my personal guess is that Dionysus has been there for around 15 years or so as of TLT, long enough that all the current campers have known him, but as his only known children are fifteen or older in TLT (Castor and Pollux are seventeen in BOTL, two years later, Dakota is a similar age to them) the implication is that he hasn't had any children since his punishment began, otherwise why the lack - considering his far from PG domains, Dionysus is a god I'd ordinarily expect to have a lot of children). However, Dionysus' tenure as Director of CHB likely prevents Apollo from getting too close to the camp for any length of time, as I mentioned earlier.

The biggest thing, though, and what I think was the final nail in the waning coffin of his jurisdiction, was Thalia's death. This is when Zeus put a very large, aggressive stamp on CHB - his daughter is the one guarding the camp now, through Zeus' own actions. By doing this, Zeus has completely muscled Apollo out, and we know that Apollo can't (and is too afraid to try to) challenge Zeus.

So, why would Zeus be so determined to claim CHB as his, and kick Apollo out? There's a few reasons. One is his ever-present paranoia. CHB is a major part of modern day demigod society - barring CJ, which is Mars' and the Roman equivalent, it is the most major part. The amount of power and influence it gives Apollo to have it under his control is huge, and we know Zeus fears Apollo overthrowing him (this is also why cabin eleven is the cabin for the unclaimed demigods - while the logic that Hermes is the god of travellers does hold water, as the camp patron and protector of the young, it would actually make far more sense for them to go to cabin seven. The only reason I can see why it wouldn't, in-universe (meta-wise it's clearly to build the Percy-Luke rapport in TLT to give the betrayal the oomph it needed), is if the other gods refused to let that happen. Considering they all seem fine with leaving their kids languishing in Hermes' cabin, they probably don't really care which cabin it is, as long as it's not their own - Zeus is the only one who has reason to protest against it being Apollo, and he has the clout to make sure he's obeyed on this).

Well, I say one reason is his paranoia; really, a lot of this is based on Zeus' paranoia, because all his interactions with Apollo are steeped in this throughout the series. Another aspect of his paranoia is the Great Prophecy - he wants his own child to be the Hero, but when Thalia dies, he's left in the horrid realisation that it might not be his child; Jason is still very young (and also a son of Jupiter and therefore Roman, and the Romans don't even have this prophecy), and if he's broken the Oath, there's a high chance at least one of his brothers has (whether or not he knows about Percy's existence this early is debatable, but from the way the accusations at theft were immediately levelled at Poseidon before Percy even knew he was a demigod, it's likely that the Olympians were aware of Percy's existence at least a little before the events of TLT). A child of Hades would be a problem, but Hades' kids aren't popular so he might see them as less of a concern/easier to get rid of (Hades also doesn't seem to like sending his children to camp - he explicitly refused to send Bianca and Nico to CHB). A child of Poseidon, however?

Remember that Poseidon and Apollo have historically worked together to oppose Zeus. A child of Poseidon central to a great prophecy in a camp that's under Apollo's jurisdiction is, to Zeus, a terrifying combination and one he won't want at all, so he uses Thalia to wrest the control of camp away from Apollo. Now Zeus is the one in control, and we know Zeus doesn't like giving control back. (And remember that in TLT the Apollo cabin back Poseidon... against Zeus; that can't have pleased him in the slightest!)

Of course, there's also the same power basis in his favour - he doesn't want Apollo to have that power, but he does want it for himself. The gods have all been waning compared to their original selves, and their powers are far weaker. During PJO, all of the gods are, if not pathetic, clearly weakened. It's only at the end that we see Poseidon and Hades regain their strength (the same way we see Apollo regain his in TON), while Zeus continues to wane.

So, what does Apollo do about this? He can't fight back against Zeus - TOA is a spectacular example of what happens if Zeus even thinks he's rebelling - but while the functionality has been stripped, he is still the patron of the camp, and also the protector of the young. Apollo doesn't sit back and do nothing.

First of all are the dreams - we know Percy gets a lot of demigod dreams, we know Zoe gets a dream while in CHB, we know Apollo kids get dreams, we can infer that Chiron probably also gets dreams (I'll get to this in a sec), and also that he knows about the dreams (once again, see @fearlessinger's discussion of our theory on Apollo and the Demigod Dreams).

Secondly, there's Octavian.

Now, it took me a while to try and rationalise Apollo's apparent desire to work with Octavian, especially considering the way it ends up with Octavian trying to kill the Greeks (who are under Apollo's patronage - this, at least, must have been a misunderstanding because there's no way Apollo ever approved that), but when I sat back and looked at how powerless Apollo is in PJO, it makes sense.

Firstly, there's his inability to help Artemis directly during TTC. As this is a gods and titans problem, primarily, the Ancient Laws shouldn't actually prevent him from doing this - the only thing that could be clouding Apollo's sight and keeping him out are the Fates themselves - but Apollo is still unable to do more than effectively send children to their deaths (Zoe is admittedly not a child, but Bianca is, and Apollo is the one who got them most of the way to the desert in TTC, although he isn't the one to actually drop them there).

Secondly, there's the mess that is CHB. Chiron is sacked and Tantalus (someone who kills children) is hired in his place (do I like the idea of Tantalus' punishment extending outside of the Fields of Punishment being Apollo's doing as a way to make sure the kids stay protected? Yes, I do - but there's no actual canon for this although Tantalus finally getting his hands on food right at the end, when Thalia is restored and the power in the tree is now purely Zeus', is a very stretchy potential link to the last vestiges of Apollo's influence in any capacity being broken off). This is all around Bad News for CHB and nothing Apollo could possibly have approved of. Then in BOTL the camp is literally attacked and children die (including one of his own).

Daedalus is suspicious as heck the whole time, and Chiron is clearly very suspicious of him - and yet, he does nothing (even though Daedalus was posing as a Roman adult demigod and it highly amuses me to think of the panic Chiron must have been in about one of the smarter kids asking the right/wrong questions). I was discussing this with fsinger the other day and the conclusion we came to is that Apollo may have been the one to assure Chiron that Daedalus had not - yet - joined with Kronos and was therefore safe to have around the kids. After the mess of Tantalus, Apollo would no doubt be keeping a very close eye on who was being allowed near the kids, after all (and as he can't directly interfere, the most likely method of imparting this information would be via dreams).

The fact that Apollo has been dragged off monster hunting by Artemis on Zeus' orders, thereby keeping him away from camp at the time when they need godly protection the most also plays a significant role here (Dionysus, too, was elsewhere on Zeus' orders, which makes one side-eye Zeus very heavily at this point).

Overall, Apollo has lost a lot of power in recent years, and he's desperate to regain at least enough to be able to protect Artemis and CHB again - power which he would get if the Romans started worshiping him higher, because the gods are clearly fuelled by belief (notably, at the end of TON, Apollo has regained his belief in himself, which is even more powerful than belief from others, and makes me wonder if he could now regain his jurisdiction over CHB back from Zeus). This neatly ties in the Octavian side of things in HOO.

So, in conclusion: Apollo is the reason CHB exists, he's been consistently shown to care about the demigods right from its inception to the modern day and protects them as much as he is able to, which makes him the clear choice for patron of the camp. However, Zeus' paranoia has prompted him to muscle Apollo out of any practical patronage (although he is, technically, still the patron even if he can no longer act on it), leaving Apollo desperate to regain the patronage and protect the demigods however he can without directly defying Zeus.

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annamaryllis · 3 months

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@aroaceleovaldez made a post about ghostwriting in rick's books recently, and the evidence seems prominent & explains a whole lot

thanks for letting me know!! I just read it and wow. I'm honestly a little surprised that there's no evidence to support the main series' post-pjo ghostwriting allegations lol (and that honestly reflects even more poorly on RR than if there were ghostwriters). I haven't even read the "confirmed" ghostwritten books (I tried to read the chb confidential but there was nothing I found worth my time and it still felt off so I gave up).

ghostwriters or not we can attribute the drop in quality after pjo as a combination of too much content at once, laziness, greed, and a lack of passion from RR now that he's a multi-millionaire and no longer a part of our reality (not to say that there were no problematic aspects of pjo because ofc there were). but idk the man so who knows

#rr crit #💌#✏️

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citrusreadstoa · 1 year

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Reading The Hidden Oracle: Chapter 27 (SPOILERS)

"'Hyacinthus,' I sobbed." So, definitely a dream. "by the window in Cabin Seven, holding a ceramic pot of purple and red hyacinths." Or a hallucination. That concussion must have been worse than I thought.

Also, "your sanity will be taken away"? Looking forward to that...

"He's talking to the flowers . . . Is that normal?" I guess Nico would find it normal, huh, having been a plant himself?

"Our enemy is Emperor Nero." Uhh, but Rhea said that the Beast was "the most stable" of the three emperors. Wasn't he the one who did a silly little jig while Rome burned? Bulldozed a corner of town to make way for a summer home or smthn? "Most stable"? Either he's gotten a lot better over the centuries (which I highly doubt) or this doesn't bode well for the other two. ("YOU GOT CALIGULA!" a voice squeals in the back of my head. Maybe I shouldn't be that surprised Nero's the most stable after all.)

"I picked out the weapon Meg had tried to give me the day before . . . I had already broken that part of the oath" So the oath is still in effect, but is it only because he's only broken half the oath so far or because breaking it once doesn't nullify the oath? And if the oath to McCaffrey comes first, will there still be repercussions to using a bow if it's to save her? "To Tartarus with him." Yeah! Stick it to Zeus!

"One, inexplicably, was dragging a 1967 Chevy Impala." This feels like something I would understand if I read a specific side story. Did I miss anything in this book or is it from something like CHB Confidential or another spin-off book?

"I plunged inside and began to sing." Hey, at least that won't get you in trouble with the Styx. You only swore off musical instruments. Hopefully it doesn't count vocal cords as instruments. "making the entire hill my musical instrument." Never mind. He's doomed either way.

"For the first time in four thousand years, I sang of my own faults." Wow, bold! "But it was my fault." Words I genuinely never expected to hear from Apollo. "I refused to share even a moment of Hyacinthus's time." Did Hyacinthus want to be poly? "I dared [Zephyros], dared him to interfere." That's definitely not what you want to say to a god, even as another god. Did he not learn at all from Eros and Daphne???

"I kept shifting from one skill to another--distracted and dissatisfied." Like an ADHD demigod? lol Being the god of multiple things is neither bad nor uncommon, though.

"she was fighting back with the power of geraniums." So the magic flower seeds do do something!

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lemon-pilled · 2 years

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what i find funny is that while the magicians in the kane chronicles can literally ride a boat and host gods, they somehow cant see the CHB confidential as what it really is.

"The book underneath his snowglobe was called The History of Pavement, on loan from a friend of Carter's from Long Island" - Brooklyn House Magician's Manual [page 171]

"That's because only demigods—and a few special mortals, like my mom and Rachel Elizabeth Dare—can read what's actually written here. To everyone else, this book is callled The Complete History of Pavement [....] You can thank the Mist for that choice of topic." - Camp Half-Blood Confidential [page 3]

Edit: ok i uh, apparently forgot to write things behind 'boat'. what i mean is, that they can literally ride a boat into the sea of chaos

#the kane chronicles #percy jackon and the olympians

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thebeigewitch · 2 years

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okay I admit the new pjo book (also maybe the solangelo book?) might just be a cash-grab- im still gonna read it and before u label me as a hater here's why-

Rick Riordan admitted the end of the Percy jackson universe once the Tower of Nero came in 2020 and even though it was sad it was a blissful send-off to a very good series- it got ruined by the movies but didn't at least have a storyline that was ridiculously dragged to the ends of the earth even though we had side books (CHB confidential, Demigods and Magicians, CJ confidential etc.) and that was what kept it a gem unlike *cough* HP *COUGH* doing multiple "standalone side books" and labelling them as "side adventures/quests" multiple times isn't fooling anybody

Other series Riordan made (Magnus Chase and Kane Chronicles) didn't get much other than 1-2 side books and thats it- meanwhile just the Percy Jackson series gets so much spin-offs, movies and other things- and yes I get it it was popular and it was popular for a reason but stop capitalising off your most popular series and over-catering to the majority for 1 second and maybe add a bit of background lore and attention to another series? the fact that Rick basically forgot abt his other series and is just making more and more books on pjo is just a dead giveaway for a cash-grab

Also this goes without mention but- YOU LITERALLY DIDN'T EVEN PUBLISH THE SUN AND THE STAR YET, DISNEY IS STILL WORKING ON THE SHOW, THE KANE CHRONICLES MOVIES DIDN'T EVEN GET CASTINGS YET, AND THE CELTIC BOOK SERIES IS LITERALLY FORGOTTEN??? AND NOW UR MAKING A NEW BOOK???

like I said I will read the books- but Rick is definitely no longer making books just for the universe-expansion.

#thank you for coming to my TED talk #no but fr its no secret now #i just wanted to put that out there #Rick im disappointed #i have more reasons but im not making an essay #also no pjo hate- love the series #just sad its being dragged so much #percy jackson #pjo #rick riordan #the sun and the star #pjo hoo toa #pjo books #rrverse

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nerd-in-distress · 4 years

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I definitely know that CHB: Confidential is mostly a money trap but like. I need it. For scientific purposes.

#rick riordan you have no right to take my money like that #chb confidential #percy jackson and the olympians #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo #pjo #percy jackson #annabeth chase #nico di angelo #rick riordan #camp half blood #chb

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amaryllisblackthorn · 5 years

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okay but frederick chase thanking thalia for saving annabeth’s life in the video conference in camp half-blood confidential ??

pjatocamp half blood confidentialcamp halfblood confidentialchbc'chb confidentialfrederick chase???????//;like ok i know he messed up in annabeth's early years i am not dismissing that or giving him a pass bc even if it was unintentional he;i love frederick chase guys bc like im pretty sure hes aware that hes messed up???that he failed her in the past??but he wants to do better;and like legitimately loves her???? the sopwith camel guys frederick in ttc in general ack;im a sucker for strained parental relationships where the parents arent /bad/ people but they definitely messed up but they're legit sorry an;d want to try to do better and there's forgiveness ?? heck not even just parental relationships;like i love that theyre rebuilding their relationship?? im notNOT dismissing frederick's failings as a parent in the past but he's trying a;nd he loves her and props to frederick chase for trying to be a better parent keep it up dont stop now

#pjato #camp half blood confidential #camp halfblood confidential #chbc #chb confidential #frederick chase #like ok i know he messed up in annabeth's early years i am not dismissing that or giving him a pass bc even if it was unintentional he;#;made annabeth feel unwanted and unloved and that's on him #;but love frederick chase guys bc like im pretty sure hes aware that hes messed up???that he failed her in the past??but he wants to do bet #better;and like legitimately loves her???? the sopwith camel guys frederick in ttc in general ack #;im a sucker for strained parental relationships where the parents arent /bad/ people but they definitely messed up but they're legit sorry #an;d want to try to do better and there's forgiveness ?? heck not even just parental relationships;like i love that theyre rebuilding their #; relationship?? im notNOT dismissing frederick's failings as a parent in the past #but he's trying a;nd he loves her and props to frederick chase for trying to be a better parent keep it up dont stop now

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