anyway. completely non sequential but: the Joker being queercoded isnt exactly a win guys...when he is clearly queercoded he's a borderline homophobic stereotype (acts creepy around guys/makes unwanted advances towards straight men) whose queerness/attraction to men is played off for creepy points and absolutely nothing else... idk like. the Joker's queercoding makes me feel more othered than represented or seen, but thats just me ig