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lastoneout · 2 days

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I cannot fucking believe Watcher had to release an apology video after their fandom was revealed to be the most entitled, hypocritical assholes on the entire planet. Like I am glad they cleared some stuff up, but they didn't do anything wrong??? They shouldn't have had to back track on making things exclusive to their platform???? What the fuck????? I s2g I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone.

Like y'all really claim to give a shit about creative freedom and treating artists with respect and being anti-ad and against big companies buying out smaller ones but then the second a group you like tries to go independant and get rid of ads it's like "have you considered canceling half your shows and firing staff and not renting sets and getting rid of your CEO and leaving LA so I can continue to receive media for free??" like good fucking god. The entire internet showed their ass on this and I'm legit ashamed.

People really claim to give a shit about being anti-capitalist but the second it starts to affect something they actually care about it's right back to "but I deserve free art no matter the cost to the artist" like you sound EXACTLY like AI techbro assholes and it's embarrassing to watch and incredibly disheartening as an artist and creator who has lost money because I refuse to take ad deals because I think ads are evil and I don't want to subject my viewers to them or change my content away from stuff I actually care about to make more money.

I'm just so mad about this. Mad and betrayed. Idk how to even process this. I know it's partially just me being upset that my own ideals are being attacked here but like I legit thought relying on viewers for support was the ethical option. I've said that to people. I hate ads, I'd get rid of all of them if it was possible, but apparently caring more about viewer support makes you an evil capitalist. Like how else am I supposed to feel rn? Half the internet acting like wanting to be paid fairly without relying on ads or firing half your staff makes you a greedy capitalists. I can't even begin to unpack it.

I have never felt less like I want to be a creator in my life. How can I muster up the energy to stand by my ideals when I know so many people think prioritizing viewer support makes me a capitalist pig. This is just....idk. It's awful, that's what it is.

#negative #vent #personal #watcher drama #maybe skip this one I'm legit just venting #I'm just so mad rn

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sophieinwonderland · 18 hours

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The problem isn’t plurality. The problem is the language around DID from plural communities and even the DID community. People who have DID but are in denial may take much longer to accept the diagnosis and work to better understand themselves because they may not be able to relate to how it’s spoken about in online spaces. Particularly people who do not feel comfortable viewing themselves as multiple identities in one. Although that is the most popular representation in both media and online spaces, more often than not that isn’t actually the lived experience. You just don’t see that representation as much because people with it are much less likely to talk about it due to the shame they have around it. Shame is often a major component of surviving trauma. Shame and dissociation go hand in hand. Nuance and awareness are both so important in these types of conversations. It’s sort of similar to how in the autistic community there’s a major lack of representation from nonverbal autistics, despite them making up at least 25% of the total community. The lack of representation doesn’t mean we can pretend to lack awareness of their existence.

I know you don’t believe you’re causing any harm but I’m sorry to say that you are. Which isn’t to say that no harm isn’t also being done to you. It’s just not such a black and white matter. I’m not speaking on behalf of anti-endos. I agree- it’s stupid to hate on a group of people for how they identify. I’m speaking on behalf of highly traumatized individuals who may be looking for answers and wind up getting lost and more confused.

I’m sorry if my intentions with messaging got lost in translation at all. I have a learning disability that affects my ability to process and organize language.

Thanks for the clarification, and sorry for misunderstanding your earlier post.

So let's address this.

Is this a problem?

A problem with this whole topic is, first, that I think we need to see some statistics.

And preferably recent statistics because I think identity has changed a lot in the last 40 years. Maybe there's a silent majority of people with DID who don't view themselves as multiple identities/people offline and are getting spoken over. But I would want to see evidence of that.

Even if some studies from the 80s or 90s showed that most people with DID didn't view themselves as separate people/identities, the advent of the internet age and ability to find community with others with DID likely impacted the culture around the disorder.

Even if this is the case...

Is this our problem?

End of the day, I'm a tulpa identifying as a tulpa. It seems kind of silly to me to think someone with DID would see me, a tulpa who is also plural, decide that because I'm a plural tulpa and people with DID are plural and they don't relate to me, that they can't have DID.

There are a lot of leaps there and most don't make much sense.

And all while the presentations you say are harmful are just as common in anti-endo spaces. Seriously, look at DID TikTok. Almost all anti-endo, and all presenting the way you say is a problem. And with much larger influence than myself.

So this issue, if it is an issue, isn't because of the inclusive plural community, and would clearly exist without it.

I don't think the plural label has anything to do with it.

Community Comparisons:

One of the main mantras you'll find in the plural community is that if you feel plural, you probably are plural. Every system is valid, no matter how distinct your headmates feel. Terms like "median system" were coined to denote systems who feel in between multiple and singlet, and still fall under the plural umbrella.

Meanwhile, the DID community is rife with fakeclaiming and gatekeeping of anyone who doesn't meet whatever arbitrary criteria armchair psychologists made up. All while, again, exhibiting the same types of traits you point to the plural community for. (And yes, you do say "even the DID community" does that. I just think you're underselling it a bit.)

Hard Truth: There will always be DID systems who won't relate to presentations of DID

DID, while having core traits in the way that there will be other agents or parts that can takeover, and there will be some sort of amnesia (under the DSM) is incredibly diverse in presentation.

Kluft wrote a paper outlining about 20 common presentations of DID he identified back in the 90s.

And it can only be assumed that more presentations have been identified since.

The reality is that not every presentation will be represented. Not everyone will be able to relate to every single person with their disorder. And there are going to be some people with rarer, or at least less popular presentations online or in pop culture, who are going to feel underrepresented.

Personally, I think starting from a place of "if you feel plural, you're plural" is going to benefit far more DID systems than it would harm, giving them space to explore their connections with their headmates regardless of how similar or how distinct those headmates feel.

It doesn't matter if they're people, parts, facets, voices or whatever else they decide to identify them as.

There are a lot of things that we don't relate to the majority of other plurals about. But I think the solution is to normalize being able to identify with something without necessarily having to relate to every experience under the umbrella.

#syscourse #pro endogenic #pro endo #plural #plurality #multiplicity #sysblr #system #systems

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bewareofthenewphannie · 2 days

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Hey sooo could u pls share the twitter essay here👉👈

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thank you for the ask, I'm honored that you want to hear my thoughts on this, and thanks char for sending your anon over to me!

okay, you see the thing is, the reason I blurred it out is a bit anticlimactic: I have no actual clue what I was talking about.

I don't actually know too much about this topic of what the dynamics between dannies and phillies looked like in the past because I've only been here since november last year and have never seen someone really discuss this in depth, I've only seen it being mentioned in passing. So everything I wrote was assumptions I made based on vague posts and my general understanding of dnp's and the phandom's history. I feel like this was enough to get the gist of this across to someone who doesn't really know dnp (apart from my previous elaborate ramblings about them) but not enough to post it on tumblr.

so if somebody has any input regarding this topic please tell me! and if I'm saying anything that's wrong (which is very likely) please correct me, I'm genuinely curious to hear thoughts on this by someone who actually knows what they're talking about :)

I will put what I wrote, along with some commentary, under the cut!

(addition: as I'm writing this commentary I'm realising how little I actually know, so please don't take this as actual information but more as...an interesting case study of how a new phannie perceives the history of the phandom)

first of all some more background info:

the original question was "[are there any people who] only like one of them and hate/don’t care about the other one?".

some shorter messages leading up to the long one seen in the screenshot:

there used to be a dannie/phillie divide but afaik all the way back in like...2013. now there are obviously people who prefer one of them but not in a way that they actively dislike the other one. and within the phandom I don't think there are really people who feel indifferent about one of them cause yk the thing is, these days it's impossible to watch one of them alone. dan doesn't use his channel, we wouldn't even see him if it wasn't for phil and even when he did a live stream thingy for his solo tour, phil was there. and phil either includes or talks about dan in every video he makes. so I guess either you like both or neither, you don't really have much of a choice also, they make it so goddamn obvious how much they love and care for and apprechiate each other and what an important role they play in each other's life, it would be kind of weird to claim to be a fan of one of them and then hate the person they like the most, yk

this was asked in the context of us talking about why there's this phenomenon that if you have a group of famous people who are strongly associated with each other (for example boybands or actors that work together on a tv show), there'll often be one person that is "hated" by the fandom. Their hypothesis was that this happens when "the one hated is either problematic, doesn’t like the other(s), or is more successful than the other(s)".

okay first the relevant part of my answer: I think overall you're right. I feel like if someone's more popular an important factor for them being disliked is that it feels like they think they're better/more important than the rest of the group. or if they all started out together that they don't apprechiate where they've come from, which both obviously hurts people who like that thing this person dismisses. but this also goes the other way, the people who like that person who is more famous often dislike the others in that group for being "jealous"/"leeching" off of the more famous person's fame.

and finally the thing you actually asked about, the long messages froom the screenshot broken up into multiple parts with the afore mentioned commentary:

now the less relevant part which is just me yapping about dnp and why this didn't happen to them I can imagine that at the very beginning some people probably didn't like dan because he was just some random dude, just another fan, who suddenly was part of youtube and attached to phil.

did...did this actually happen? it seems plausible to me, and I obviously know about charlie etc but how did people really react to dan suddenly being part of the AmazingPhil universe? I know it was an entirely different youtube culture back then and everything happened on a much smaller scale, so it's really hard to estimate how people reacted to this back then. in fact, now that I think more about it, judging from old screenshots I've seen, even at the very beginning people mostly seemed to be quite supportive of them and I think dan got an overwhelmingly positive reponse to uploading his first videos?

can't tell you exactly what went down after that but I do know 2012 was incredibly difficult (long story). things were very tense and especially dan was reallyreally defensive during that time and he had his whole "we're two seperate people" phase.

okay, so if there was any time in the phandom where there was serious tension between dannies and phillies it must've been during this time, right? because from recent discussions I know that there was a point where especially phil wasn't exactly treated the best but I don't know when that was. I feel like it would make sense here though.

anyway, at some point dan surpassed phil's subscribers and I genuinely don't know but I would assume that strengthened that dannie/phillie divide.

Again, I don't actually know when this happened (I would assume some time around 2013/14?) and I have absolutely no idea what the actual reaction people had to this was. but if I know anything about fandoms, this definitely must've stirred up...something. I don't know how obsessed the phandom was with numbers but even if it wasn't that bad, I can't imagine this happening completely without drama attached to it.

but one thing you need to know is that phil was always incredibly supportive of dan and the other way round, dan never talked shit about phil.

correct me if I'm wrong, maybe we simply don't talk about this time that much (with good reason) and I know dan said and wrote a lot of things that were very dismissive about some stuff etc. but in the clips and old posts I've seen he still emphasised that they were friends and didn't hate each other.

and thennn they started their bbc radio show, their joint channel, released a book, went on tour in 2015/16, basically they fully embraced their DanAndPhil brand. this was their peak in popularity and from what I've heard people say that joined the phandom at that time this dannie/phillie divide was basically gone by then because yeah, people liked their seperate things but what really made them blow up was the things they did together.

this is based on something I saw the other day. some people who I know joined the phandom around that time were talking about how they luckily never experienced that dan vs. phil mentality. that's why I wrote the things before this paragraph based on the assumption that the worst bit of the dannies vs phillies thing was before that era and kind of fizzled out by the time tatinof came around.

thennn the hiatus of the gaming channel, coming out (soulmates etc.), dan disappers from the internet (phil's just always there chilling btw). okay the most interesting part comes now, dan eventually writes a book and goes on tour. alone. now if we look at our hypothesis this would be the perfect reason for people to start disliking him, but not with them. phil goes behind dan's back to promote his book, before dan leaves on tour they make this video (https://youtu.be/2M2dF_21ANc) [edit: this is dilm in case you're wondering] where they keep talking about ohhh we've never apart for longer than to weeks oooh how will we cope blah, disgusting. dan makes a youtube series promoting the tour which phil is heavily involved with. and yeah, dan has this "I'm a strong independent dan" thing going on, but it's mostly part of his tour persona. (and also he did have to figure himself out for himself because he's been attached to phil since he was 18, so literally his whole adult life.)

I know some people disliked dystopia daily (which is valid but just for the record, I will defend her with my life) and I know some people generally didn't like/were disappointed with what dan was doing during that era. however. I know that's not representative of the whole phandom and I don't think (look at me assuming things again) those people truly hated dan for it but more like wished that things were different.

and then and then! after the tour nothing...until *drumroll* the gaming channel is back! aka, phil pushed dan to start making dapg videos again and dan's actually enjoying it. and they're fully embracing their DanAndPhil brand again. tl;dr I think the reason why this divide isn't there between them is [because of] how vocally and explicitly they support each other.

THE END

if you've made it this far, congrats, you get a cat! ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ

I genuinely meant what I said earlier, I would love to hear more "qualified" opinions on this! feel free to add to this post, completely unravel it...or ignore it if I was too offensively wrong about things :)

#misty says thing #dan and phil #answered asks #phan

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13eyond13 · 11 months

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Sometimes I still think about how sweet it was when that anon checked on me last year when I was posting overly dark jokes. Thank you whoever you were, that was kind

#i am so much better now but last year was a bad one for me #there was a time in the fall where i literally couldn't get out of bed just because it felt pointless #anyway my mom also forced me to make a doctors appointment and luckily my doctor is super kind and got me on a good medication #but it also was just from stuff like losing my job struggling in school and going through the hurricane etc #im just so glad that i was pushed through that by concerned folks because im enjoying life much better now and that wasnt that long ago #anyway if you're struggling badly right now pls know its not hopeless #reach out for the help youre given and try to see yourself as worth it to fight for #take it little steps at a time #celebrate the small victories like having a shower or taking a walk or answering a call #the best thing for me other than the doctor was just finding ways to be around other people more #instead of feeling defeated i had to think of ways i could fix the loneliness that was affecting me so much #i had to get proactive like i started volunteering and started a book club etc #also i just made myself be very honest with the friends i already had about my struggles and it helps with feeling closer to them #and less alone in it all #because its not that uncommon to have those kinds of struggles and it helps other people open up about their own or just know how you are #the hardest things to do were the most rewarding things in the end #volunteering gave me a reason to get out of the house meeting new people and trying new things and feeling good about myself and #i had to remind myself that i was able to offer things of value and that other people like having me around actually #like the book club is something my friend group looks forward to so much and made new friends through and i started that!#even though i was nervous about it and didnt know if theyd like it at all #other people need you just as much as you need them and thats the truth bby #p

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8bit-mau5 · 9 months

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Meant to type this up a few nights ago, but I recently dropped out of a lot of servers, so if you can’t reach me on discord anymore that may be why 😔

I was feeling pretty glossed over and ignored and it really felt bad to see happen so much tbh. I’ve been feeling Othered for a while- pretty much all of this year, but it’s really gotten to me in a way that’s too difficult to deal with in these last couple of months.

#I thought I had friends there but I didn’t really ever feel like ppl wanted me there or cared to include me #and it’s why I became less and less active until dropping them #I only have like 2 ppl to talk to and it sucks #:splat:#8bit beeps #sorry for the vent I’m just struggling here tbh #everyone here has their close knit groups and it’s near impossible to make New friends here or keep them #cos they already have their Circle yknow #the FTC was always like this but man. it sucks #the only way to get engagement is already to be involved in those groups too #(I use the term engagement as like. not only interacting with set posts. I man this is a character and ask blog that does not get actual #literal engagement)#RSD has ground me into mush the past like 4 months consistently which may have a part to play here but I have plenty evidence and #encounters to back this up so.#*with Art posts (not set)

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opens-up-4-nobody · 10 months

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#it's so weird trying to describe yourself when u really aren't something u used to be #like until i was probably 21 or so id say i was shy. very very shy. but now im like was that even true? was i ever shy bc im not now #maybe i was just quiet and anxious. maybe thats just what being shy is. but im still both of those things but im not shy #im sorta like a hermit. i dont really go around ppl if i can avoid it but i dont hate being around ppl. its just that im less anxious when #im alone. but if u put me around ppl i like to talk to them so im not shy. ill say whatever. i dont really give a fuck #but if u throw me in a group i go back to being a non entity. i guess thats just being an introvert with an asocial streak #thats a thing i noticed while i was at the grad weekend i attended in march. the group would gather and do things while i kinda just #wandered away from them to poke at trees and sit in the snow. i dunno i just feel better away from ppl. my brain gets a lot louder if ive #been too social. which is a shame bc its interesting to watch ppl and understand how thry work #my friend came over to day goodbye before i leave next week. which was nice. i wish we would have hung out more in person but so it goes #and i think in my head im a lot more contained thst i actually am. like if u set me a task that becomes my focus but im also sorta all over #the place. partly bc i think my brain works on like a lag. and also my mood is a little elevated rn so im sorta like *jazz hands* and #talking too fast and too much and oversharing. yesterday i was instrucing an undergrad and felt so bad bc my brain was all over the place.#could not b made linear. im tired now tho bc theres nothing more draining than being emotionally honest and talking for like 2hrs. woof. it #so hot. like fucking so hot bc the monsoons have started and humidity is up so my swamp cooler is fucked and its gotta b at least 80 degree #inside my apartment. holy christ. and the temp has been over 100 degrees for like at least 2 weeks. its so hot its kinda alarming. and im #glad my friend was also freaked out by how hot its been bc oh god its hot. and i cant focus. ive done fuck all today. but i did get rid of #couch which is so so so great. ugh. someone make the sun stop making it so hot #unrelated #its been over 100 degrees outside for like 2 weeks. not on my apartment #and when i say i wish i spent more time with my friend irl. i mean it in a distant sort of way. like thats how im supposed to feel. like i #dont kno if thats actually what i feel or i kno im supposed to b social but idk if i actually mean it

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extervus · 11 months

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This past week has felt like a million fucking years. Fuck's sake

#shut up max #realistically its actually felt like half a month #like genuinely #i keep thinking to myself 'oh my god i think i forgot to take my t shot' because it literally feels like its been forever since Saturday #and even tho i saw Andi and Sean on Wednesday it feels like waaaaay longer ago #same with my other friend group. i saw them on Saturday but it feels like its been like almost a month. its actually kinda bumming me out #like since i keep thinking i havent seen them in so long its like making me sad. then im like 'wait its literally been less a week'#its not even loneliness like its literally just a fucked perception of time rn #prolly the worst ive experienced in a very very long time. or even ever

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01tsubomi · 2 years

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i’ve been watching komi-san and i do see why this series has been so beloved since its manga days but it’s also really hard to ignore that it approaches the general topic of lgbt people with all the grace of baka and test (2010). like. the exact same gags repeated some 10-odd years later to the point of discomfort

#that being a lesbian 'you're destined for me i know it' violent yandere and gender androgyny played for laughs #watching my own identity reframed as creepy and weird is hard enough to sit thru but knowing there's a second walking stereotype and that #every episode will have jokes about that makes the general viewing experience waaaaaay less pleasant #najimi at least has a lot else going for them as a character but i actually hate sitting through any yamai episode espec when she's placed i #*in direct contrast to tadano. bc ofc the girl who likes komi is a nosebleedy stalker psychopath and the guy is good #'maya it's anime you saw this coming' i actually didn't. expect this from a series as well loved as komi-san #my other thought this early into the show is i sorta wish komi wasn't a love interest #i don't dislike tadano and i think their relationship is cute and feels good but i'd also like to see the show from her pov #and i kinda wish she didn't have to be...desirable the way she is #like i wish that she wasn't framed as so pretty and attractive that people are drawn to her and then they work thru her communication #i love her so much but i feel like it'd be nice if it was a show abt just an offbeat girl working to make friends #all this makes it sound like i don't like the show and the more i dwell on these things the less i do #but i really am enjoying it otherwise #komi accumulating her little group of friends is so cute #personal

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aeide-thea · 2 years

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thinking a lot lately about the desire many of us tend to feel for validation through community that not only respects but reflects us, and the way normie* men have been generally been happier to let me join them in their gender than normie women have been to let me leave it (them)...

#* not totally sold on 'normie' here but like. what i'm getting at is that the women i actually *know* are allies #(though of course it's like. how much of that is drawing on regard built thru homosociality...)#but like. when i get out in the world i find that women are the ones who really hate it #when they realize i 'could' be a woman but i'm Doin It Wrong #anyway it just does all feel tied to the thing i posted recently #about like. the ways many of us project our experience onto other people‚ looking to have them mirror it back to us #that post was about language and this one isn't so much #(although like. i've reached for 'we' twice in this post and substituted 'many of us' so as to be making slightly less blanket statements)#(and even then—that's still a claim both abt the world and abt how i'm grouped in it)#anyway i guess what i want to take away from this is the courage to be myself even unvalidated‚ whatever 'myself' even means #it's *hideously* hard bc i so often got invalidated growing up that i'm still horribly desperate for it #and i'm SO sensitive abt almost everything. but. at the very least a good goal for me‚ i think.#(also like. validation is great‚ or can be! i just think—when the desire for it leads us away from our truths‚ or towards fear and hate...)#(time to be wary then of its seductions and promises.)#anyway the cat is sitting on me so i haven't wanted to dislodge her in order to go make coffee #so instead: you get this

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perenlop · 1 year

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girl help im thinking of a major oc rehaul again

#okay. pains me to consider this twice with the main group now. but im thinking of downsizing the mcs to just asha and valerie #NOT because im ignoring skylar thats actually why this is difficult to see if its a betterchoice bc i love their relationship w asha #and i do love them being taken in by atlas but like. im wondering if its necessary #and if itll serve asha's character better if she's aloof and cold bc they've been so isolated #and valerie is the one to bring her down from that. but then that feels weird when skylar is there #and skylar couldve had that effect on her yknow and its weird that they dont since theyre so close #like idk how to make that work without making asha come across as more unlikable than they should be #bc then the implication is ''skylar is really enthusiastic and always trying to get asha to try new things and she doesnt #but then val does that while showing her kindness so clearly skylar doesnt mean as much to asha''#skylar does get an arc regarding their relationship with asha but it also feels too similar to quinn's arc w atlas #and i was trying to make it a parallel but it feels less like that and more like retreadingground since im telling both stories #or i want to anyways #and like. skylar wouldn't be kicked out of the story they'd still appear and be a character!#a main character in fact! theyre extremely important to the plot they're arguably the heart of it #(which is another reason im so conflicted)#they may appear later in the story and join later? but then they feel kinda similar to valerie augh #also im soooo attached to skylar and asha being adopted siblings :( thats been a thing since like my very very first draft #my first doodles of these characters were them hanging out and being siblings #maybe ill try and figure out a best of both worlds scenario where they can keep beingsiblings #but asha spends a lot of time with valerie alone at first #echoed voice

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githvyrik · 2 years

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anyone else constantly get the feeling that you’re never able to properly communicate what you’re trying to say and every time you say something you’re certain makes sense everyone instead just meets you with confusion and explains something completely different than what you said (not even necessarily like discussions and stuff just like regular everyday conversations) and also that you’re just fucking weird to everyone around you not in a “haha I’m so weird and quirky” way but like in a way that everyone else genuinely sees you as kind of weird to talk to in a way that’s uncomfortable and awkward for everyone involved and whenever you try to be funny or relate to people you’re just met with confusion or very polite “hey please stop talking no one cares/knows what you’re talking about” vibes and even though you know you’re being cringe you genuinely just can’t shut up because you’re interested/trying to explain yourself in a way that makes more sense so they stop thinking you’re just stupid or weird but eventually you do fall silent when you realize it’s never gonna work. or is that just me

#don’t rb this doesn’t make sense #I’m trying to work myself up to getting at least 1 therapy appointment bc I feel like I do genuinely need it so #I’m trying to put some stuff I’ve grown up with into words so I’m able to discuss it with a therapist or smth #bc it’s probably all in my head so I wanna figure out how to get rid of it #bc it was less noticeable to me as a kid but it was still kinda always there #but like. again! I don’t know if I’d be communicating this shit properly!#tbh in an effort to make this understandable I’ve probably over edited it to the point where it’s still unclear what I’m trying to say #which is part of the problem.#or like. is this even something I should bring up in therapy or am I just making shit up and everyone on the planet feels like this #tbh it has def gotten better with like the current group of ppl I generally hang out with #even like. a lot of my coworkers actually. which is kinda why I was so scared to quit for a while bc I just get along with all of them so we #*well

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liquidstar · 1 year

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So basically, and I'm totally just talking to myself here to sort this out in my head (+ it helps to have Said it somewhere so it feels cemented) but my plan for how I'll draw the rest of my OCS is

-dragon tree batch (8)

-lunar flair batch (they were really close in the poll so I'll do them back to back even if they're big batches) (8)

-queen+king pair (2)

-owl feather batch (8)

-timber scouts patch (5)

-ursa and cetus at some point, probably not together (2)

-cobalt heart batch (8)

-misc family members (5?)

-tartarus batch (8)

-and finally atlas and arion. Maybe together maybe not idk (2)

#so still 56 to go basically #but grouping them like this makes me feel like it's less. like it's actually just 10 to go #this isn't completely set in stone though. i might change it up or even add characters you never know

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starlitsilver · 3 days

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I'm currently watching Caelan Conrad's video series on the "g*nder cr*tical" movement, and it's made me realize that I'd like to properly look into that movement myself at some point. Whatever I do would not be nearly as labor-intensive or time-consuming to make (or as pretty and theatrical) as their videos, since I am neither a journalist nor a youtuber, but rather just some rando. however. through the pandemic I've come to realize that I have a deep-seated interest in learning how conspiracy and hate groups work (the two tend to go hand in hand), and how they radicalize people. It would also be solely online, using publicly available stuff, since I don't really want to spy on people (not even these kinds).

My goal is to eventually have a solid, step-by-step illustration of the radicalization pipeline, using several different bigoted groups as examples, for the purpose of educating other leftists (and other people in general) about what these pipelines look like and how people are pulled down them. I would also like to understand their group psychology, and the emotional core of their movements. It would be limited by the fact that I can only do my "research" over the internet, but I think it's a good place to start.

The groups I'm currently thinking of looking into are

T*RFs

Incels/"blackpilled" people

Anti-vaxxers

Regular white nationalists

Zionists (I consider them to be closely related to white nationalists)

Whatever's left of the QAnon people

probably others???

My main interests lie in conspiracy logic, where misinformation comes from, how propaganda spreads, emotional and cognitive biases, rhetorical and argumentative tactics, group psychology, and the effects radicalization has on people (in terms of how they act and live).

Whatever I do, it's not going to start until at least a year from now, when I am (hopefully) more stable and (hopefully) have part of an education under my belt. I also wouldn't be looking into any of these groups at the same time. But whatever I find, whenever I do this, I'd put my results and conclusions here. maybe just as a post, maybe as a more formal essay, almost certainly not as a video though

#saturn speaks #i'm weaponizing the part of my brain that makes me learn everything I can about the history of radios at 4 in the morning #but for. good? evil? who knows #the actual final boss of this project will be me taking on the entire alternative medicine movement. That one might kill me though #my interest in conspiracy groups started before the pandemic i should say. covid just put a lot of things into sharp relief i guess #ive been making observations about these kinds of people for years but it was never really anything formalized #not that this would be. it's not like im writing a paper on them. but i think it'd be good to have a semipublic record of my observations #so that i could get feedback or whatever and so it feels less like i'm doing this alone in a dark tunnel lol #this is a tonal shift from the stuff i usually put on this blog but i need somewhere to put this so i dont forget about it

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