Holby-Verse Plotline Tournament!
hello! ive been wanting to do a poll for ages, and i haven't seen any casualty ones so i thought why not make one!! this tournament is a showdown of plotlines from the shows to find the best/most important/favourite! see bottom of this post for the submission form!
rules:
plotlines can be from any holby-verse show, be it holby city, casualty, and any of the spin offs or cross-overs!
the plotlines can be as long or short, popular or obscure as you like, affecting just one, or multiple characters. i think shows like holby and casualty are very plotline driven so most things would fit, but i think for this, a plotline would need to be at least 1 episode long (or the subject of an entire episode), with one or more of the regular or semi-regular characters (for that era of the show) involved.
plotlines can be submitted based on how much you like them, how important you think they were, the impact they had on characters, etc.
please don't spam the form with the same plotline! the same plotline can be submitted by different people, and the same person can submit multiple plotlines, but not the same plotline by the same person please!
i think there will be 128 entries, but we'll see how it goes!
entries will be selected by whichever submissions make it in before i close the form
propaganda will be allowed once the tournament starts but please be nice!
these rules may change a bit and more may be added once i figure out how running a tournament works, but i will try to keep any changes reasonable, and will try to post them to see what people think before changing them
once polls start, ill figure out a tag system that can be used to track polls, results, propaganda, and miscellaneous things which, when created can be found here.
submission form:
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Why I think that killing off Adam was the biggest mistake Viv could make
TW: ranting and spoilers
This entire blog is just gonna be me going on a rant about my opinion on why I think Adam shouldn't of been killed off and why he shouldn't be killed off so early and shit , not only did I not see it as unnecessary for the plot, but there's so much Vivienne could of done for his character other than just throwing the whole character away in just one season , I'll be listing things for what they could of done for Adam's character
1. Plotholes
I'm just gonna say it right here and right now, Adam was killed off waaay too early and not only would we be left with many many plot holes like, where is both of his sons (Caine and Abel), the potential they could of used for his character, and ect.
2. Character potential
^^this fucking scene^^ , because the thought of when Adam first pulling up and being like "Hello, Adam here!!" Is just so fucking funny to me (just less plagiarized, and more unique)
and maybe his arrival leads to his words "Hell is forever" ,his own song gets used against him sense not only did he have the audacity to go to the hotel to get back into heaven but he has said it himself, how redemption isn't possible
But references aside ,Adam can have some potential for his character, like maybe he not only comes to the hotel not only for the intention of going back to Heaven because he hates being down in hell but also for the intention of plotting some revenge for what the hotel residents all did to him
,but the longer he stays there the less and less he tries to plot his revenge , the more and more he realized how flawed heaven and heaven's people are most of the time, and ect.
And ect. and he's so indenial of it at first and doesn't want to believe it but no matter how much he tries there's no denying it , deep down he knows it's true but he doesn't want to believe it
3. Character potential (again)
Like maybe Adam has become fallen in the first place because not only did him sinning in Heaven eventually catch up to him, but maybe also because after finding out the exterminations were unnecessary after Sir Pentious entered the heavens gates, it was finally time for Adam to take his fall
They can also actually start touching on Adam's trauma and how it affects him, his trauma being : being forced into a relationship the moment he was created (Lilith and Eve) , having to be the father and/or decendant of all of the human race , having been kicked out of the garden after Lucifer has second handedly invented evil into the world , and said evil causing his son to kill his other son(which is his and God's fault also)
Like maybe sense Vivziepop is putting a slight different spin to things to Hazbin hotel, she doesn't really having to follow the entire list (sense it's her show) , she can still do something with some of it and still find a way to bring it up and with that it could be the reason behind how he behaves , his personality as a whole, and why he wears that narcissistic mask (while it doesn't necessarily excuse his actions)
4. Character design
If Adam was to somehow end up coming back as a fallen angel, as a sinner. Viv can find a way to go crazy with his fallen design, like any other cartoonist in this world, I know that those cartoonist has seen fanart and fan creations of their shows, movies, and characters
I've seen my fair share of seeing really really good fallen designs for Adam and I'm fucking here for it , they're all so good
,it just needs to happen
5. Character development & redemption arc
Like mentioned in Character potential 2 , Adam can have some potential for his character, like maybe he not only comes to the hotel not only for the intention of going back to Heaven because he hates being down in hell but also for the intention of plotting some revenge for what the hotel residents all did to him
but the longer he stays there the less and less he tries to plot his revenge , the more and more he realized how flawed heaven and heaven's people are most of the time, and ect.
And ect. and he's so indenial of it at first and doesn't want to believe it but no matter how much he tries there's no denying it , deep down he knows it's true but he doesn't want to believe it . Like maybe Adam just still acts the same but without him realizing it or acknowledging it he's just becoming a better person and maybe even comedically he just thinks that the misfits gave him a disease /illness when that's not the case
Maybe in the next seasons he could even become a better father to his sons, Caine and Abel but similar to Lucifer, let them do their own thing sense those two are basically adults now and hey, Adam could be more like a cool dad
I feel like Adam has more cool dad energy
6. The relationships he'll end up making
Just imagine the relationships Adam slowly but gradually builds during his redemption arc, like maybe him and Charlie ending having like an fun uncle and niece kind of relationship or something, maybe slowly but gradually he becomes like another friend of Angel Dust's, and ect.
As he processes through his redemption arc he can end up making friends and building relationships down in hell , possibly in the near future Charlie, Vaggie, Angeldust, Alastor, Cherri bomb, Husk, Nifty, Razzle, and Lucifer doesn't fight against him but with him if another threat were to come
7. There could be another antagonists that's worse or maybe even a bigger threat than Adam
Maybe another antagonists could be made that's more of a mystery and even a bigger threat than Adam , that's just like Adam (or not) but amp up the bad traits he has, maybe this time Adam could be the one helping the others fight and rebel against this guy in his own way
8. Another musical number
Another musical number with them singing badly about heaven in song in the near future but this time with Charlie ,Vaggie, Angeldust, Alastor, Cherri bomb, Husk, Nifty, Razzle, Lucifer, and most of all Adam but the reprise has a metal spin to it and this time Adam joins in and does it with his guitar
9. Another reason she shouldn't of killed off Adam is because she'd be killing off fat /plus size representation
Another reason I feel like Viv shouldn't of killed off Adam is because she'd be killing of fat character representation and I wouldn't want a chubby character like Adam to be killed off
,of course we have Mimzy now but she doesn't count sense she's just one character and only just one character and as much as I love Mimzy I feel like the show needs more than just one or two fat characters
And for the people that think "He isn't chubby" , try again and look at him again , how he sits , lays down (like how he was laying after her got shanked in his arm by Charlie), and ect.
10. I just want some vulnerable moments with Adam
Whether that be Adam bawling his eyes out, having a panic attack, having a mental/emotional breakdown, or ect. I just want to see a vulnerable side of Adam, Adam angst if you will
Okay I'm done ranting, bye <3 <3
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I’m thinking about my Holby City days cause I was hit with the horrific realisation that my Holby obsession (2017-2018) started over six years ago and I’ve been on Tumblr (in some form) for over six years now. First of all, what was I doing being 13 in the Holby fandom, that’s so funny?? Second, why do I remember the fandom having drama?
It’s entirely possible that this didn’t happen or that it only happened in a very over-dramatic and annoying (because I was pretty annoying) corner of this already pretty niche corner of a corner of the internet. But for some reason I remember, in the second half of 2018, people arguing about ships that could and canonically kinda did coexist? Ship wars are stupid anyway but these ships had no overlap at all, any arguments about them would’ve been pointless but I’m sure it happened.
Also, I remember an anonymous confessions blog that really added fuel to the fire cause people would just send confessions that were like “hate [redacted1] as a ship” and then you’d get someone who shipped that being like “clearly the person who sent in that confession about [redacted1] is a bitter [redacted2] shipper” and then you’d get someone being like “wish people who ship [redacted1] and [redacted2] would grow up you wouldn’t see [redacted3] shippers acting like this”, and it was like they’re pretend doctors and pretend nurses pretend kissing in the pretend hospital, it doesn’t matter enough to fight over it. (Except I was 13 and annoying so it very much did matter to me, though I think I mostly kept my mouth shut and busied myself within declaring war on the writers, which is a lot of what I do in the Casualty fandom now anyway.)
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