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If you choose "Season 1/Season 2 villains return" or "different new rogue", tell me who specifically in the tags/comments! 😉
#telltale batjokes#juce#telltale batman#batman#batjokes#batman the telltale series#bttts#Reblog please! I wanna know!#This is going for a week! Let's see what the consensus is!#Wish I could've added more than 10 options tbh... Maybe I'll do a separate one for team-ups!
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Forever obsessed with the way that Bridge to the Turnabout revolves around Morgan, Diego, Iris, and Misty deciding they alone know what's best for the people they care about, with that assumption being inherently false due to it having been constructed on outdated, heavily biased memories
Morgan wants Pearl to be Master because SHE wanted to be Master, so she assumes her plan's the best thing for Pearl, even though we can clearly see that it would ruin Pearl's life
Diego's using Maya as a proxy for Mia, believing that since he couldn't save Mia he has to save Maya, but his grief blinds him to the fact that he doesn't actually have a personal relationship with Maya
Iris is, once again, going along with a plan because she assumes others know best, but she's also an ambiguous enough character that you could interpret her as trying to fulfill an obligation to Pearl (her sister), Maya (the future Master), and Phoenix (who she wasn't able to protect last time)
And Misty is trying to save her daughter, but she's also the one who ran away when Mia and Maya were children, thereby putting them directly in danger of Fey clan politics in the first place
Diego, Iris, and Misty have multiple opportunities to tell Pearl, Phoenix, or Maya what's going on, but they're so set on viewing them a certain way that they can't see them as they really are. Like, Phoenix has been Maya's closest friend and biggest supporter since Mia's death, and he's a major caretaker of Pearl too, so why not let him know what's happening? Pearl genuinely doesn't know what Morgan's asking her to do -- she could almost certainly be talked out of the channeling if she understood that Maya would be in danger, so why not tell her? And Maya has already been involved in several extremely dangerous situations, including a previous plot by Morgan, so why not tell her? Especially since it's her life on the line?
Bridge to the Turnabout is a story of good intentions, but ultimately all that those good intentions did was rob Maya, Pearl, and Phoenix of their agency and lead to unnecessary tragedy
#listen I love diego as a character#but I'm also so goddamn angry at him#and I'm even more mad at Misty#at least Diego didn't have a choice in not being around y'know#but Misty fucks off for a decade and a half and then still assumes she can act in Maya's best interest#like I know it's terrible but when I got to the reveal that Elise was Misty#I was more upset that Maya would have to find out in such a traumatic way than the fact that she was dead#hooooo boy this is a long post#I could write a dissertation on bttt#one of these days I'll write a one-shot about it or something#I think Maya Phoenix and Pearl should get to be angry#ace attorney#phoenix wright#maya fey#pearl fey#morgan fey#diego armando#iris fey#misty fey#aa3 spoilers#rambles
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Yeah y'all were right. They were cowards not to give us a hospital scene. It's ok, I know what happened, though.
Edgeworth charters a jet and bullies them into leaving ASAP. He calls a cab to be waiting for him and runs to it, he only threw together a carry-on (which obviously contained only his suit, he can buy new clothes). He rushes to the front desk of the hospital, at which point one of two things happens:
1. Phoenix had already listed him as family or
2. Edgeworth makes up whatever will get him in.
The nurse shows him to Phoenix's room. Phoenix is so very out of it, barely conscious. He sees Edgeworth and thinks he must be dreaming. He's not making a lot of sense, but Edgeworth sits next to him and holds his hand, he won't remember this later so it can't hurt, right? Edgeworth uses his other hand to feel Phoenix's forehead, who nestles in to the touch.
Edgeworth asks some questions, and Phoenix answers to the best of his ability, supplementing his responses with items from the court record. Edgeworth has to leave to see Larry, though he doesn't want to go. Phoenix encourages him, but wait! You'll need these. He gives a brief barely comprehensible description of what the magatama does and gives Edgeworth his badge alongside it. Edgeworth asks what the badge is for and Phoenix just smiles as his eye lids flutter close. Edgeworth tells the nurse to contact him with any further developments.
And that's the gist of it. Does anyone want me to fully write this out? I feel like basically all of the fics go like this so it doesn't seem entirely necessary, but if even a single person tells me they want another one I'll do it. Don't test me. Or do, y'know... if you want.
Edit: I wrote the thing.
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Thinking about the shared Feenie and Iris sprite again. I know I made fun of it a little before, and I still find it funny, but it's the idea of it, y'know? That of all their "lovey-wuvey" moments, the strongest impression she made on him was with her eyes staring straight ahead, clear and open, refusing to avert her gaze from whatever she was faced with. That when Dahlia's facade dropped in court, and he was faced with the seemingly irrevocable truth that she used him and tried to kill him, he held on to those eyes -- so much so that he imitated their gaze -- and said no, that wasn't her. That when he met her again, years later, it was those same eyes that really told him that they'd met before, because he knows those eyes. It's the idea that, yes Iris is kind and compassionate and gentle, but what Phoenix probably really fell in love with was her strength. And it's the reality that that's one of the few sprites that she and Dahlia don't share, that that firm, focused gaze he knows so well belongs solely to Iris. It just comes back to that final line exchanged between them, doesn't it? She really was the person he always thought she was.
#for someone who's so adamant they dont ship feenris Like That after bttt i sure am half a step away from calling them soulmates#i've seen a few posts talking about how funny it is that phoenix felt so strongly about iris and edgeworth of all people#because iris is soft and kind and edgeworth is... edgeworth but i think it makes sense when you think of it from this lens#feenris#phoenix wright#iris hawthorne#iris fey#sorry im obsessed with that line.#also edgeworth is still a downgradr from iris. like rip phoenix but it couldn't be me xoxo#WJSKDHDK#i feel like ive said this in different ways before but like. im saying it again
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for the drawing requests: pearl and godot maybe?
Rough night huh
#pearl fey#aa godot#indys art#asks#anon#ok context for this one#while I was playing BTTT I had a though during the final trial when the idea of Godot hiding in a spare shed on the other side#and combined with the fact that he was the one to find pearls first#I thought that on the night of the murder Pearl found Godot in the shed and was also trying to keep his involvement a secret#not the case as far as im aware but this visual stuck in my head#so! here it is#I might refine it the future cause this is just a sketch KSHSKHD#also u can see me struggling with Godots hair
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listen dahlia's actions in bridge to the turnabout are another story but i gotta say i think her actions in turnabout beginnings are perfectly excusable. like if i was fourteen years old and living in an absolutely loveless family and my twenty one year old tutor started fawning all over me and calling me his "teen angel" i'd fake my own death and start a new life and let him be put on death row in the process as well. and manipulate him into drinking poison i'd do that too
#i do sympathize with her past situation and i don't blame her for taking drastic actions to get out of it#you gotta remember that if valerie hadn't threatened to expose the truth dahlia never would've killed anybody at all#she was perfectly fine! she was living her own life under her new name and she caused no trouble whatsoever#but then valerie threatened to expose the truth and send her potentially hurtling back into a life she didn't want#and so she took drastic action. like maybe it was overkill but i Get it i Understand#terry for sure had to die. i Understand though why she killed valerie why she tried to kill diego why she killed doug#why she tried to kill phoenix. like you haveeee to remember that for the majority of the things that happened to her#she was a teenager! coming from an abusive family and trying to get away from that!#and again bttt is an entirely different situation and i understand that. but the fawles debacle? another game entirely#and one i completely understand her actions in
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Why "Bridge to the Turnabout" is a Shakespearean Tragedy - Part 1
I finally decided to put some of my thoughts into words, so here is part one of the BttT essay! It's getting kind of long, so it'll be split up into ~11 or 12 parts - the full thing will be posted on ao3 when it's done, for convenience.
To start, let’s discuss what exactly makes up a Shakespearean tragedy. While the specifics differ from play to play, it’s acknowledged that there are nine elements that are common to Shakespeare’s tragedies; these are derived from the major components of Tragedy as described in Aristotle’s “Poetics”.
“A tragedy is the imitation of an action that is serious and also, as having magnitude, complete in itself; in appropriate and pleasurable language; in a dramatic rather than narrative form; with incidents arousing pity and fear, wherewith to accomplish a catharsis of these emotions.”
— Aristotle
The nine elements we’ll be discussing in further depth are:
Tragic hero
A struggle between good and evil
Hamartia
Tragic waste
External/Internal conflict
Catharsis
Supernatural elements
Lack of poetic justice
Comic relief
By going through these one at a time, we’ll break down exactly what this element refers to, what it looks like in the context of a play, and common examples from Shakespeare’s tragedies — as well as the equivalent role in “Bridge to the Turnabout”, which will henceforth be referred to as BttT. This will be followed by a closer look at some direct character comparisons between Shakespeare's tragedies and BttT, where we'll examine character parallels, thematic resonances, and narrative structure.
First, we have the role of a tragic hero. While this hero may be either male or female, the most important thing is that they must suffer — either by reason of fate, of their own character flaws, or both. This hero usually holds a high status in society, such as that of royalty; this is to ensure that they are an important person, both in the context of the story and the world. Others look up to them and rely on them, which leads us into the most important element of a tragic hero: they die. The price for their suffering can only be paid with their death, and because they’re so important, their death leads to turmoil.
A popular example of the tragic hero in Shakespeare’s tragedies is Hamlet. He suffers from the burden placed upon him by his father, who asks Hamlet to avenge him. But by doing so, he is led to his own death at the hands of Laertes, and allows the army of Fortinbras to enter Denmark and take control of the kingdom.
BttT has a tragic hero as well, in Misty Fey. Misty’s life has plenty of suffering, brought on by combination of both fate and her own character flaws. Fate played a hand in her having more spiritual power than her older sister Morgan, which subsequently led to her taking on the title of Master of Kurain Village. This was what fostered the beginning of Morgan’s hatred for Misty and was the spark that set off their years-long one-sided feud. The beginning of Misty’s fall from grace is marked by the DL-6 incident, where she helped the police department by channeling Gregory Edgeworth’s spirit. Her name and details were leaked to the press by Redd White, which ruined the reputation of the entire Fey clan.
It’s arguable whether this falls in the fate or character flaw camp, as there were forces at play in the DL-6 incident that Misty wasn’t privy to — particularly, Robert Hammond convincing Yanni Yogi to plead insane which resulted in all charges against him being dropped. However, according to Mia, Misty considered what happened in the DL-6 incident to be her own fault.
“‘I have tarnished the Fey name.’ Leaving only these words, my mother vanished.”
- Mia Fey
In terms of the tragic hero, this can be considered Misty’s first “death” — further evidenced by her going into hiding and changing her name. For all intents and purposes, Misty Fey has died, and because of the role that she held, both in the family and the Fey clan, she leaves behind utter turmoil. Mia removes herself from the running as Master and sets off to the city in search of her mother, leaving Maya behind as the sole obstacle between Morgan and her desire for the title of Master.
And now our tragic hero shifts over to Elise Deauxnim. Now, we shift from her suffering being borne of fate to being primarily due to her own character flaws. Because of her own shame, she refuses to reach out to either one of her daughters for seventeen years — not even after Mia was murdered. When she hears about Morgan’s attempt to have Maya murdered at Hazakura Temple, Elise comes out of hiding with the intention of protecting her daughter. But still, she keeps her identity a secret, to the point that we as the audience don’t even know who she is until after her death.
Misty’s decisions, and the pain they inflicted on her children — even directly leading to Mia’s death — are not fully redeemed. However, she does pay for the suffering she’s caused both herself and others with her life. And this can be considered Misty’s second and final death. Her death leads to turmoil, and sets off the events of the entire BttT case — solidifying her role as the tragic hero of the case.
#ace attorney#ace attorney meta#bridge to the turnabout#misty fey#morgan fey#aa3 spoilers#shakespeare#aa3#trials and tribulations#shakespearean tragedy#bttt essay#damn i did NOT think this would be this long#also i'm definitely realizing how much i like writing meta so expect more stuff like this in the future#for ace attorney and other fandoms hehe#next part will be on the struggle between good and evil!
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to be honest i dont like it much when people want to make maya hate being master of kurain like . i dont know. dont you think that kind of sucks as an ending for her
#bc like ok clearly half the intention behind this is to explore whats going on w/ maya when at the end of bttt#she says she doesnt want anything more to do with the fey family more or less because of The Everything#but like. she clearly has a passion for helping people and she enjoys being a spirit medium and its incredibly important#to her and who she is. like clearly post bttt she needs a Break and time to heal from the immense amounts of new trauma#but like. is the most interesting story to you really one where she hates her job and hates her life and hates her family#and the only reason shes doing any of this at all is for pearl (who would hate that mayas throwing away her life to try and make her happy)#like. it reslly just doesnt make much sense for who maya is as a character and her arc thus far#theres a post someone wrote about it somewhere on my blog that puts all of this much better#but like. wouldnt a much more narratively coherent way of going about this be somewhat of a mirror to edgeworth’s arc#namely that your family doesnt define who you are and even though theyve done reprehensible things#in the same career that you now have. doesnt mean that you need to be like them or to do your job for the same reasons they did#even though its somewhat of an inherited career . you can find a different purpose in it than what your family found#you know. well whatever
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#i dont buy the story that Maya just wasnt there for Nick during his disbarrment#he was disbarred only a few months after bridge to the turnabout#and youre telling me that she jsnt clinging onto the family she has left?#also#im conflicted on whether or not Mia would be able to be channeled after BTTT#but theres no way in hell that Maya saw a depressed Nick and DIDNT call the best problem solver she knew#ace attorney#aa#phoenix wright#maya fey#mia fey#mild aa4 spoilers?#my art
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Season 5 is finally here! 🎉
I had a lot of fun making this faux wedding invite today. I might make a variant "cover"...!
(Also, do you know it's been almost FIVE YEARS since At the Brink of Midnight wrapped up? And it's the Fifth Season of BtTTS! I can hardly believe it! We should celebrate!)
#bttts#batman the telltale series#batman the enemy within#Gosh I need to celebrate!#FIVE YEARS! FIVE SEASONS! WOW!#Fangs of Ouroboros#the perseverance project#fordarkisthesuede#batjokes#telltale batjokes#batman day#Batman Day 2023
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AU idea: when a Fey woman dies of unnatural causes, she can return to life by sacrificing her spiritual power. She wakes up healthy and whole, but normal.
Possibilities include:
Mia or Misty thought they were okay with turning away from their spirit medium heritage, until they wake up unmurdered and realize that they actually can't go back now. (They could even discuss the matter after they both survive!)
Maya could survive the 2-4 Bad Ending, or survive 3-5 in a painfully ironic way
Dahlia and Iris don't have spiritual power because they used it to survive a childhood illness or something
Morgan is sentenced to execution but it just ... doesn't stick. Law enforcement is baffled. She claims she can do it again (she cannot, she's just trolling as many men as possible before she dies)
#ace attorney#mia fey#misty fey#maya fey#morgan fey#dahlia hawthorne#iris ace attorney#iris of hazakura#aa spoilers#t&t spoilers#aa3 spoilers#fic prompt#fanfic ideas free to a good home#my listed examples are all serious drama situations but like.#there could be goofs too#mia bursts into court on Turnabout Sisters Day 3 and makes the cool pop culture reference 'BITCH I LIVED'#bttt wasn't convoluted enough misty should have been murdered twice
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Replaying AA3 is such an Experience because there's SO MUCH foreshadowing: literally every case ends up connecting back to Bridge to the Turnabout
Of course you have Phoenix claiming the Dahlia that was there during Turnabout Beginnings wasn't the Dahlia he knew, but then you also have the main argument of the Stolen Turnabout (the murderer couldn't have been in two places at once, so one of them had to have been fake), the murder method in Recipe for Turnabout (poison in coffee), and the crime scene and murder method of Turnabout Beginnings (Hazakura and getting stabbed in the back), as well as the constant reoccurrence of Dahlia and Diego/Godot
In terms of actual stakes, AA3 isn't as hardcore as AA1-2. You aren't exposing MvK, or Lana, or Gant, and you aren't dealing with an internationally feared assassin. But unlike the previous two games, every single case in AA3 gives you a piece of the puzzle that is BTTT, even though you don't realize that you've been shown all the clues you need to figure out the mystery until the final piece falls into place
#I forgot a lot about how AA3-2 goes#so when I was playing it again I was deadass just sitting there like#'hey wait that's the exact same argument you make in BTTT'#anyways AA3 is the closest the trilogy gets to being a classic mystery#it's just... such a good game#ace attorney#aa3 spoilers#rambles
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Miles and Phoenix are actually so cute together??? You can tell Phoenix considers Miles to be family and obviously Miles cares very deeply for Phoenix. And I love that it's told but also shown very clearly through their actions.
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anyway, feenris is important to both their characters because he taught her that her kindness wasn't a weakness, and she taught him that he could still have conviction without losing the parts of him that purely cared btw. if that even matters to you.
#and they both lie like dogs.#feenris#iris hawthorne#iris fey#phoenix wright#i could elaborate on this but like. i think i have. a lot of times.#anyway just to be clear it's how he tells her at the end of bttt that he's always believed in her thus assuaging her fears about her so-#called 'weakness' having hurt him irreparably and being what draws him to hazakura to begin with#and how her strength is what he mirrored at the end of dahlia's case when he insisted that their love was real and he wouldn't believe#otherwise. they saved each other. do you see that. one could not have gone without the other or else both their lives would have fallen#into tragedy so much sooner. sure phoenix says that it's edgeworth who taught him to believe in people no matter what but it's iris who's#the first person whom he puts that into practice for. they're quintessential to each other. do you understand.#bring her back!!!!!!#ace attorney#ace attorney trials and tribulations
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oh my goddd i love so badly when media depicts umm. families that tear each other apart. like especially in a power struggle. i love stories about the cycle of trauma and how parents will use their children to get back at each other. i love stories about how the head of the family will irreparably damage their children and how that trickles down. it's so fascinating to me good god.
#was watching a retrospective on AA trials and tribulations and it spawned a thought#i LOOOOVE the dynamic of the feys.#like dude they're so interesting#i know BTTT was all about them but i need more.#so bad.#ace attorney has a lot of problems but this is depicted so interestingly i think i wish it was explored deeper.#ive heard umineko does this amazingly well too#so thats a reason ive been wanting to play it#if anybody has any other media like this i would love to know about it thanx
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it really is a shame that we didn’t actually get any miles interacting with diego/godot in the games
#once again thinking of godotwrightworthcontent#THEY'D REALLY HAVE SUCH AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC#does miles remember interacting with him at all when he was diego?#how much does godot hear about miles at the prosecutors office? did he ever find out miles played defense attorney on the 1st day of bridge#does godot resent or appreciate that miles helped phoenix and mia put away redd white in the end?#does he resent that miles initially tried to prosecute maya for mia's death initially? helping redd white dodge the conviction?#oh to be a fly on the wall of their conversations post bttt#rambling
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