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getitfrenchship · 3 months

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late return but 2 & 15 for your fe si(s?), and 7 for your bleach si! :D

2. When in canon do my S/I’s and OCs appear?

Anne: She’s basically Robin so prologue

Julia: She’s in Hoshido at the beginning of the game, but I think she’s playable when Scarlet arrives

Bevan: After Cheve falls (I think that was chapter 16?)

Johanna: A map or 2 after Berkut gets the mirror

Benedict: One of the desert maps, so probably between chapters 2 and 3 on Celica’s side

Pinafore: At the beginning in the GD house

Odette: After chapter 9

15. How do they play into the story?

Anne gives more depth for what it’s like knowing you’re the vessel for a terrifying dragon and how one would cope with that knowledge if they didn’t have amnesia/time travel abilities, Julia and Bevan have different ways of trying to defeat Garon since they’re both nobles that despise his rule, Johanna at least shows that someone aside from Rinea cared for Berkut, (Benedict’s currently just there since I wanted another Archer for Celica’s map), Pinafore gives perspective to how they worked as a stage hand trying to gain merchant & noble connections in school (and getting Dorrie some positive attention), and Odette is Hubert’s distant aunt that does more digging in the Abyss! Pinafore also tries to learn about every culture within Fodlan and beyond to help gain a better understanding of the world, and gets pretty frustrated about how others are treated.

7. Would other characters have a crush on Courtney aside from Starrk, Ukitake and Shitsui?

Fans may want Hisagi, Tosen or Shinji due to their interactions in my fic, but they’re older brother-esque, mentor that instilled ideals, and friends respectively. I also originally joked with Izuru and her are long lost siblings because of how they mope. Other than that…not sure? Would have to plan out more of my fic

#thank you!

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damoselcastel · 7 years

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Hoo gotta say if I'm on a 3d rendered map with no 2d mini-map, I'll always get lost. I had to look up a map online to figure out how to finish Duma's Temple- no joke. So between that and the respawning random fights, I didn't really like navigating that.

Other thing I don't like- the entire Celica-as-witch subplot. It really didn't answer any sort of lore questions to do with witches, and raised a whole lot more questions (like what constitutes a soul in Valentia if one can be respawned?). Celica as the plot-demanded damsel in distress was highly disappointing, and her losing faith in mankind's strength sounds like the OPPOSITE of what little I know of FE2!Celica. It sounds like she had way more agency 20 years ago. Way to fail modern IS script writers.

And why does everyone call Alm "Alm" when they call Celica "Athiese"-- it's a secret name double standard! Call him Albein, dammit!

Also... what is this whole plot with Mila? Her "sealing the Falcion" by becoming a Wind Waker-esque pedestal. I mean...why??? Considering it made her weak enough for Jedah of all people to blow up... WHY!!! I'm getting very tired of the lore "dragons go mad" being inserted and recycled into every FE world- it didn't used to be a universal rule, and it's quickly grown into a tired trope.

The Berkut moment was good (ignoring the very end) and I’m sad a game I had so much fun with at the start, really didn’t stay that way til the end.

#FE15 spoilers #Dame plays Valentia #welcome to the salt mines

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lesbianmarth · 7 years

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i 100% agree about berkut, i like him because he's fun to hate, is a good example of rigel's theme and how the toxic expectations placed on him turned him into the way he is. but every time i see a loki-esque defense post about how "NONE of it was his fault" and "duma made him a violent person, he was fine before!!" it's just like... did we play the same game...?

GOD MOOOOD

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maligknights · 7 years

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Thoughts on Echoes: Shadows of Valencia

Just finished the main game and…

This game is incredible. *Gross sobbing*

I am amazed at how it is so faithful to the original to the point the gameplay retained some of the clunkiness of Gaiden, but uplifted in a way it is way more fun than the original.

The original NES title will always have a je ne sais quoi that people seem to either love or hate (which I personally find unique and charming) and that Echoes cannot emulate, however I would recommend Shadows of Valencia over the original a thousand times.

SoV took a honestly kinda tedious game and turned it into a thrilling experience filled with great characters, an incredible atmosphere and most importantly, upgraded the level design into something fun and exciting.

The new characters are fun, the new designs and dialogue are gorgeous and full of flavor; and the retcons to the original plot not only create a much more complex and poignant narrative, but fix Gaiden’s biggest issue as a sidequel to Shadow Dragon and fill in the blanks that the Lore of the original did not have the time to bridge.

I will admit I am a bit sad I did not get to see your reactions to “the twist” since I finished late bc time so I avoided the tags like the plague (which apparently spared me a lot of drama as well).

Now to spoiler discussion:

On my first thoughts I really was expecting the new twists to strip the aim of the bare narrative of the original, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well the retcons were handled to the point they could find a converging point. SoV is still about man giving their gods the finger which is just great.

Like I have already said, the fact that Duma and Mila were turned into Divine Dragons and how Alm and Celica’s bloodlines now have a crusader esque touch, gives Valencia the sense of continuity it was sorely missing. Lorewise, the original had nothing to do with Archanea to the point that Judgral made a better sidequel to Shadow Dragon and Mystery of the Emblem because of how their timelines kinda add up and their struggles have the same origin point. This gives the FE Multiverse more continuity and makes it larger as a Multiverse and bridges the Kaga Era games into one, more complete Universe.

Alm is much less of the homicidal nutjob of the original which loses memetic value but is a much more compelling character. Celica is just adorable gimme so I can hug her and bake her a cake or something. The characters are pretty cool, not as complex as some other FE titles but very very enjoyable, even the flatest are fun to hear. Rudolf is a great antagonist, the fact that we have townspeople to flesh out the world so much is great, the music is excellent, agh I can just gush about this game for hours.

I really love the narrator’s final lines and how it ties to Medeus’s dying words.

I am not going to say that this is 100% perfect, but it comes really close, so if I had to nitpick:

Well, Duma and Mila broke the agreement between Divine Dragons by: First, interfering with man so deep they became FUCKING GODS and messed with the natural conditions of their habitat. Second, knowing how powerful Divine Dragons are and how dangerous they become when degenerating, why did Naga allow them to keep their dragons forms? Gotoh and Xane discarded their dragonstones to prevent them from destroying worlds and Naga instead of punishing them gave them a Falchion twin to Marth’s in case they degenerated so wtf Naga, do your job! IDK seems kinda unfair that Naga actually went to Jugdral to stop an Earth Dragon, but left Mila and Duma to their devices knowing Divine Dragons are waaaay more powerful.

The DLC and Postgame are coming though, I am awaiting that to see how Grima’s origin tale gets, but with how the retcons have been handled, I have a certain hope for how they are going to fix the hot mess that is Ylisse’s lore which is VERY commendable. I am still intrigued whether Robin is the true descendant of Alm and Celica or if Grima’s pact stems from a completely different bloodline (Judah’s maybe?). I love the fact that they specify that Alm and Celica’s bloodline lasts a thousand years because you know with what that aligns? That’s right, the first exalt. So my prediction that their bloodline was uprooted to prevent Grima from returning via vessel might be true. It’s very interesting that you get to look at Ferox’s origins, a hint of how the climate of Archanea changed and a few tidbits about Grima.

Fernand had way more focus than Berkut. I really like Fernand but let’s face it, Berkut was the bigger villain so his breakdown and death was not as emotional as Fernand’s who had a really long and cheesy death scene (that brought me to tears but yes). In the same vein, we needed his relationship with Rinoa to get more buildup so the sacrifice could be much more effective, although I will say that when he turns her into a witch is the best thing ever. Berkut you asshole.

The Zofian royal family could’ve been fleshed out a little bit more, especially with the addition of Conrad. And like Fernand’s death there were some slightly forced and/or predictable moments, but the story was pretty well handled.

But all in all…. It is an amazing game as both a standalone and as a remake, far better than Heroes of Light and Shadow thanks to the risks they took with the gameplay and story and how wisely they used the assets of the original.

THIS is in spirit how Fates should’ve handled itself. Especially considering that Nohr and Hoshido have similar setups and a similar truth about the protagonist.

I have faith that Echoes as a brand will continue, I am really looking forward to the next remake which will probably be either Genealogy of the Holy War or Binding Blade. I am looking forward to how they’ll fix Elibe’s lore and how they’ll expand the gameplay and the already vast world of Jugdral. Elibe’s history has a similar flavor to Archanea, so it might make sense that they also share an origin (especially with that theory about the Dragon’s Gate and Nagi and how Heroes has handled Elibean lore which has its issues but eh… we’ll see).

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