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#because this behavior this ongoing discourse is not normal!! none of it is fucking normal the fact that y’all go to war every fucking day
olderthannetfic · 8 months
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I’m kind of surprised that the whole heteronormativity BL discourse turned into me hating femme men and wanting every man to be masc. It’s doubly nuts because the story I described that got the brunt of this was one I made because of a certain masculine gay character trope that I really hated, to the point where my idea of fixing it was to basically make him sensitive and soft and a yuri on ice fan, and bullied for his lack of masculinity. If I find myself hating or feeling negatively about any part of a BL story it’s usually because of the actions of the top/seme character.
If a BL is bad, or I don’t know if it’s good or not, or I think there’s any bad writing moments at all, the top is usually the problem. This rule applies even if I think the top is a great character. This applies even if the bottom is a fucking terrorist who crippled an innocent young woman and tortured her for hours and never once grows as a person the whole story. (to be clear I really like the story i’m talking about and would recommend it, halfway across by dracze, but it’s still insane how the top basically NEEDS to be at the more toxic one in the relationship if the story has any flavor whatsoever). I know there are obviously exceptions, I can’t name a single one at the moment.
None of what i’m saying is a criticism of BL or of masc gay characters, i’m just saying that way too many people jumped to one specific conclusion about me based on my words. I really hope this doesn’t turn into discourse about me hating masc gay men and wanting everyone to be femme or some shit. I’d probably rage quit the internet for a week if that happened.
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You are the only one who can't let this go. Everyone else forgot about it five minutes after it happened... or would have if your ongoing behavior didn't remind them.
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As I've explained numerous times, people respond to the subtext and vibe of what a person writes as much as to their literal words. You said a bunch of shit that was laden with buzzwords and dogwhistles from communities with bad attitudes. People picked up on that.
You send lots of lengthy posts that are hard to parse and that come out of nowhere. And no, "you don't have to answer this but..." is not the ass-covering you think it is. I have to at least look at the posts in my inbox to evaluate them before they go in the queue. Normally, I don't mind if the same person sends me lots, and I don't care if they're all super interesting, but yours are particularly self-absorbed, boring, and horribly-written.
They're always phrased like "I think X about media Y". They don't invite discussion. They aren't tied to past conversations on here. They don't show the slightest spark of interest in what others think.
You apparently want eyeballs on your writing, both creative and nonfiction asks, but you're incapable of showing genuine interest in others. If these posts are an attempt to interact rather than to just say words in front of an audience, it sure doesn't show in the final product.
The posts people respond better to are just written better, but they are also more obviously part of a dialogue that treats other readers of my blog as peers, not a spigot dispensing free attention.
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Why should anyone care why you dislike one BL or another? I get that you're trying to prove something about yourself, but why should anyone care about that either?
You are not the main character in other people's lives.
You're treating this like some need to clear your name, but fundamentally, that's assuming any of this matters to other people. It doesn't outside of refuting a given comment on a given post and then, like I said, forgetting about it five minutes later.
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Every time you ask a new question, it just demonstrates the same lack of clue as before. For example, you recently asked (in part):
"What would changing my behavior look like? I have full plans to write […]"
It does not matter what comes in place of that ellipsis because no one cares what you do in your own art.
No one ever had an issue with your art because nobody has consumed it. And, to be honest, plenty of people have perfectly fine values for things they do. The fact that you do or don't include problematic thing X or proship stance Y in your own art is not proof of anything.
The issue is in how people talk to others about other people's art.
Endlessly trying to bring up your own work just looks like pointless grandstanding. Meanwhile, the vibe when you chat with others here has not really changed. There's still a strong subtext of unexamined assumptions and desire to make everything about yourself.
It's not about swapping out word X or Y. It's about your overall writing ability and command of subtext, which is poor. Really, really poor.
It's also about moronic statements like:
Like would it have made you mad that I said what I said if I removed those words? Because I didn't even mean them I just didn't think long enough to cut them from the post.
"Ooh, I didn't think".
Then don't fucking speak.
Or, if you do run your mouth without thinking, like most of us do sometimes, expect to suffer the consequences and don't cry like a cowardly little weasel when you do.
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To be perfectly frank, I spend less time trying to promote my own work on here than you do. On my blog.
And I can actually write.
This constant me, me, me, me bullshit is what makes you seem selfish, self-absorbed, and like you're wasting everyone's time on purpose.
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hotgirlrry · 3 years
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https://bottomharrykingdom.tumblr.com/post/637045884168896512/im-not-trans-because-i-wore-pink-blue-and-white can you believe what this mf is saying
‼️ stop giving that blog and blogs like that attention when they’ve made a number of people uncomfortable and the very nature of this discourse is about headcanoning a stranger‼️
#oh my god where's that post about real people??#i should've liked it when i had the chance and now its gone forever#again no this behavior doesnt surprise me bc ppl are looking for rep in irl people#they're not static they have lives and sure as hell aren't going out of their way plotting secret messages for some in group on al gore's i#internet#okay? okay i'm done#im blacklisting his name that blog’s name any of the various other blog’s names and deleting holy shit do y’all rest??#does anyone ever fucking rest?? I’m about to make a recommendation to the apa to add stanning in the dsm-6#because this behavior this ongoing discourse is not normal!! none of it is fucking normal the fact that y’all go to war every fucking day#from bloggers answering 100 asks about it furthering triggering themselves#to bringing people outside the fandom for their opinion#and just not having a life!! it’s dr stangolden my treatment is getting y’all to touch grass twice a day for a week!!#and down to the root cause of all of this which tricking yourselves into believing every single thing they do has a hidden message#or an ulterior motive it’s watching brain rot in real time I can’t stand it#y’all camped in ppl’s inboxes to either send them hate or complain about them to blogs that encourage ppl to send hate#you’re going through ppl’s blogs and archives waiting for them to ‘slip up’ so you can attack them for what?? FOR WHAT???#y’all saying people are doing transmisia for not agreeing with you!! making bold ass claims we don’t know you can make!! DEPLATFORM THEM PLS#Anonymous#talk t me
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