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Some days are just days, and that is ok! Not every day is meant to be filled, some days are just meant to BE
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#avatar#the last airbender fanart#avatar tlok#avatar toph#avatar the legend of aang#avatar iroh#anime#anime adaptation#avatar zuko#best memes
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while I’m actually active here who wants some weed iroh to cleanse their feed of all the discourse??
I just think he deserves some. As a treat.
#what I would give to sesh with uncle iroh#ignore how messy and nonsensical these are I drew them in a frenzy with no regard for artistic artness#avatar the last airbender#uncle iroh#uncle iroh memes#avatar iroh#atla iroh#general iroh#atla#atla shitpost#uncle iroh atla#atla memes
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While it is always best to believe in oneself, a little help from others can be a great blessing.
-Iroh
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#atla#avatar aang#avatar#the last airbender#aang#avatar iroh#iroh#avatar the last airbender#tunnel#hope#cartoon#airbender
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Avatar: The Last Airbender-The Search #1
#Iroh is the literal best#uncle iroh#avatar iroh#avatar#atla#avatar the last airbender#the search#atla comics#meme#my post
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Okay
What these four have in common?
Adopted Father
#carmen sandeigo netflix#cs shadowsan#avatar the last airbender#prince zuko#firelord zuko#zuko#avatar iroh#general iroh#dragon of the west
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been rewatching ATLA and just...yeah that's basically their relationship
#ATLA#atla zuko#atla iroh#avatar the last airbender#avatar zuko#avatar iroh#avatar#idk what else to tag#uhhh#avatar meme#atla meme#zuko#iroh
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Saw this on Twitter… we better get a teaser trailer or a promo image for the Netflix show soon
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I like how the ATLA fandom, collectively, has forgotten just how bad Iroh is as a person. Like, in the show, yes, he’s shown to be this ditzy old mentor guy trying to help Zuko see the light.
But, like, this guy used to be, and was, one the main players in the Fire Nation’s conquest of the world. If Aang had been thawed out a few decades earlier he would have had to face Iroh in battle and, like, I don’t think you guys understand how ruthless old Iroh was. Chances are, if Aang had been facing off against Iroh he might not have won.
Ozai is actually a bad ruler. Like canonically he’s not good. He doesn’t have any value on human life. He doesn’t make smart battle decisions. The men he chooses to promote are questionable at best. Like, okay, let’s break this down. We’ll start with Zuko.
I don’t know how it is in the ATLA universe, if it goes along the lines of western lineage or if it follows blood overall since, well, the fire lords have been shown to be men in the time we see them. So, chances are that Ozai needed a son, and he got one in Zuko, and Zuko, as first born, reflects good onto Ozai since he now has an heir. Someone he can groom to take over his duties once he’s too old to do them. I’m not even talking about the firelord thing right now since Zuko didn’t become in line to the throne until after Ozai took it from Iroh. I’m talking about how Zuko would have probably held a good military position or a good advisory position in the royal household because he’s part of the family and that was what Ozai would be when Iroh took the throne.
To remove Zuko altogether is throwing Ozai’s entire lineage into disarray. Again, I don’t know how it is in ATLA universe, but family names are important in the West. So, in order to keep the family name strong and pure he would have to have a male heir since, again, usually women took their husband’s last names and joined another family, meaning that they were disposable in the family unit unlike men. By removing Zuko Ozai has weakened his family, he weakens his bloodline because now Ozai is the firelord and whoever Azula marries won’t have his last name (unless he’s a cousin). So a bad move there.
Then there’s the reason Zuko was banished in the first place for speaking up against a strategy that would decimate a good portion of their army. Zuko’s actually making points here guys. Like, I know child Zuko would probably be thinking about human life and all that, but in battle the more people you have the better. To just throw away a portion of your army on a move that’s not guaranteed to win the battle is stupid. what about after? If you have more people there’s more people to delegate tasks to. To give land to look after. To keep the people in check. Ozai, and his council, are absolutely stupid in this regard and Zuko was damn right for speaking out against his father.
Moving on. He lets Zhao rise through the ranks. Yes he’s capable. But Zhao is also interested in spirits. The ATLA verse at this time isn’t actually all that into spirits. A lot of them don’t believe in them, and I think it’s very interesting that a man who probably doesn’t believe in spirits would promote a man who does. I’m guessing that Ozai doesn’t believe in spirits here because if he did wouldn’t he be worried about the spirit karma coming his way by taking his brother’s right to the throne? Or even what destroying the Earth Kingdom would do to the balance of the world?
Speaking of, who destroys land they want to conquer? How can the fire nation rebuild on scorched land? Crops won’t grow. People won’t live there. It’s stupid. Ozai is stupid and the only reason he stood a chance at winning at all was because he had his brilliant daughter to back up and correct his stupid mistakes.
But not Iroh. Iroh isn’t stupid. We know this from the little tid bits we get of his life before he reformed. This man was ruthless, sure. But he was also incredibly smart. This is a man who decided to learn from the old masters. I don’t know if he got his title the ‘Dragon of the West’ before or after his reformation. But if it was before, it’s very interesting that Iroh would learn from a dragon than destroy one. He knows the value in knowledge. It’s why he knows so much through the show. He makes a point to know things because that’s what you’re supposed to do to take someone down. He learned about these cultures. He saw how they ticked and let’s not forget people. This is a man who lay siege to Ba Sing Se.
Why is this significant you ask? Because, it’s Ba Sing Se. Ba Sing Se was named the unconquerable city. It’s a symbol of the Earth Kingdom. We don’t even see Omashu being taken over in the show because it’s inconsequential. Omashu is great, yes, but Ba Sing Se is unconquerable. Which is more likely to break people’s spirits? If you take refuge in Omashu, they don’t have the reputation like Ba Sing Se do. You go into Ba Sing Se, like Zuko and Iroh do, and you’re safe. That’s what people think. It’s a symbol. And if Iroh could take this city down what hope did the rest of the Earth Kingdom have? I bet he was banking on the rest of the earth kingdom falling like dominoes if he took Ba Sing Se as his stronghold. Also because of the power it had. Ba Sing Se is only one of two places in the Earth Kingdom that we know has a ruler. A monarch. If he takes the title of Earth King, he’s given more power than we can even think of. We know, in the show, that Azula gains control of the Dai Li after she takes over. If Iroh had taken over he would have had them too. He would have had 1) More people for his army. 2) A base for good trade and skilled workers in the lower rings who would provide food and goods which would be important for after the war had settled down into a colony. 3) His own title separate from the Fire Nation, making a name for himself while he waited to take over his duties as firelord (Since someone would have had to stay and govern Ba Sing Se)
He made a smart decision and he stuck to it. We know he lay siege over a hundred days. He was well on his way to waiting them out until they surrendered or starved. It’s literally only the death of his son that made him rethink his life decisions. If Lu Ten hadn’t died, I have no doubt Iroh would have made it.
How do I know? Because he’s a legend in the Fire Nation Military. Zhao knows of him. A lot of people know of him. This is significant because if he was just the disgraced first son who had been bested by Ozai people would have forgotten about him. They would have been more disrespectful to him. But they aren’t. He even still holds his title of ‘The Dragon of the West’. But no. He’s even still called ‘Prince Iroh’ by some people. This is a respected war general whose only fault, really, is that he’s following Zuko around.
No one expected it. No one wanted it. For them, if Iroh retired it would have been the best day of their lives. But no. Now they have to track him down along with the annoying prince because he’s found the Avatar. Zuko is literally the reason they hate him. Zhao offered him the opportunity to help take over the North Pole. They like Iroh. They just don’t like Zuko.
Iroh, also, we know, has respect for the spirits. He went on a year long quest to find his son in the spirit world. He wouldn’t have even attempted that if he didn’t think his hand in the fire nation’s war was the reason Lu Ten was taken from him. He respects the world in a way Ozai doesn’t, and I bet, if Aang had been going up against him, he would have found things a lot harder than he did in canon.
Iroh isn’t a ‘sweet old man’. He’s a ruthless war general who switched sides. He had no problem jumping back into battle in those last few episodes. He had no problem regaining the strength he’d lost. This is a man who I don’t know if Aang would have even won against, and we need to remember that before we fluff him up like this fandom usually does.
p.s. I’m dying for a fic where we see an unchanged Iroh.
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Azula getting too much credit for the doll scene - and trying to understand it
Since the topic of Azula burning a doll is becoming more popular, I want to share my take on it. Inspired by @akiizayoi4869's post to which I initially wanted to respond, but then it went longer than I expected, so go read that one for context.
https://akiizayoi4869.tumblr.com/post/691775157087371264/azula-and-the-doll
So here, imagine you are or were a kid, except if what I am going to say already happened to you, in which case you do not have to imagine much. An adult family member, who was on a trip, brought you and your sibling some gifts. There was something you really wanted, whether it is a toy from your favourite brand or some really cool gadgets. You see your sibling opening their box before you and you see them getting just that and think "oh cool, pretty sure I got one, too". So then you proceed to open yours and before your eyes, you are bestowed with the sight of... a doll you could not care for or a sweater you probably would not ever want to wear.
Going back to Azula burning dolls, however, some may say it is a disrespect towards Iroh's good will or that she is sadistic... but it is none of that. She just did not like the doll and did what could come first to a mind of a firebending child. Let us be honest, would you not want to destroy it or at least throw it away when the family member does not see it? Not to mention how often kids can break their toys for no reason?
I get that "oh well, the family member had good intentions". I am not going to completely deny it because it would likely be the case most of the time, yet regardless, how would you feel about being put in a situation like this? Because I doubt you would cherish each and every present you received in your childhood that you did not find interesting while your siblings get the good stuff, unless you did, then good on you. But when you look at it, most kids tend to be very picky and adults can dismiss them as being ungrateful. But very often in the rush of adulthood we forget were children, too, even if we still behave like ones in a way. Come to think of it, adults are still using toys, just much bigger in size and more expensive to maintain.
And look, even though I do not blame entirety of it on Iroh, he could still at least make some basic research, even ask Zuko what Azula might like. Since he did not know it, he chose the very first thing he could think of for a little girl, which was a doll.
Anyway, people will often say it is the thought that counts and, which is true in a way if the person cares, the issue starts when the thought in question is just an afterthought. No kid wants to be considered inferior to the others and they can make a big deal about that. And whether Iroh's choice of gift was a thought or an afterthought... We cannot say for certain, only guess. Though I can certainly say I very much doubt he meant malice with it.
#avatar the last airbender#atla#avatar#iroh#azula#atla iroh#atla azula#avatar iroh#avatar azula#toys#dolls
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It’s always time for tea. 🍵💚
#tea#tea time#avatar#avatar the last airbender#legend of korra#atla#avatar iroh#iroh#general iroh#atla iroh#wholesome#soft art
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First Kisses (and Matchmaker Uncle Iroh)
i can't tell you how many times i rewrote pieces of his story. the answer is so many
shouldn't be any cws. just a couple of guys being dudes (and being gay)
first part / prev / next
reblogs appreciated/encouraged
Zuko wove between people, anxiously following his Uncle’s steady footsteps through the White Lotus’s camp. He had no idea what they were looking for, or what this surprise of his was supposed to be—if it was another pai sho piece, he’d be incredibly unimpressed.
“Uncle, where are we going?” he asked for the nth time, growing slightly more frustrated and much more confused.
Iroh simply smiled and shook his head. “You will see soon.”
That same line he’d been using every time he asked for the last minute or so. It didn’t help that he seemed to be taking his time, wearing his patience down as they walked.
Zuko huffed but closed his mouth, knowing he wouldn’t be getting an answer. Shortly, they arrived at a tent (of course, at the other end of the camp), with the main entrance closed. Iroh made a motion for him to wait outside and stepped in, letting the material fall closed behind him.
As many things as he had patience for, this was not one of them. Whatever was going on inside—whoever he was talking to—he desperately wanted to know what was happening. However, he trusted and respected his uncle enough to stay put.
What felt like forever (but was really no more than a few minutes) later, Iroh stepped out and smiled at him. Placing a hand on his shoulder, he said, “there’s someone I’d like you to see. Please go inside, Zuko.”
Without leaving him time to reply, he walked off, seeming oddly proud of himself. Zuko took that as cue to go inside the tent without thinking too hard about…whatever that conversation was.
He ducked and stepped inside. When he did, however, he almost wanted to turn around and run right out.
Shou stood behind the small table, maps and various writing utensils scattered about—he never was the neatest person, despite his uncle’s efforts—and looked up at him.
He simply stared, unsure of what to do next.
“Hey,” he said casually, stepping around the table, hands stuck in his pockets and eyes on the ground. Neither of them did well in tense conversations, and now they had to talk—what was there to say? How was he supposed to excuse leaving without a word, no explanation, just disappearing?
Zuko stared up at him. “Hey,” he mimicked, rather breathless. “I…I didn’t expect to see you here.”
“Your uncle decided I was better off as part of the team.”
“I think you are, too.”
And it was quiet again.
He wanted to reach out to do something. Maybe hug him, maybe kiss his stupid face that looked like the constant black eyes and split lips had started healing. All he could manage, though, was an apology.
“Shou, I’m so sorry for—”
He shook his head. If he didn’t want an apology, what could he give him?
The next thing he knew, his arms were around him, one hand buried in his hair and the other one holding him tight around his waist. He didn’t know how to react at first but his arms slowly moved on their own. He reciprocated, feeling like it was the first breath of fresh air he’d taken in a long time despite the stuffy tent.
“I’m just glad you’re here,” he sighed, holding him tight like he was afraid to let go.
Shou was the first person to pull away, although he didn’t go far. He held his face in his hands—a gentle gesture that he wasn’t used to. And his unwillingness to move away showed exactly how safe he felt with him.
“I wasn’t sure if you’d come. Iroh said they were trying to find the avatar and the whole group, but he didn’t know if you’d be with them, or—”
“Or with my father, yeah.”
Another tense moment washed over them, but Shou seemed determined not to leave it like that. “I'm sorry for the letter,” he started. “I can’t imagine how confusing it was and I don’t know how you feel and–”
“You just said no apologies.”
“Guilty.” He smiled. How he loved that smile. True, genuine smiles were few and far between (for reasons he knew parts of) so he always enjoyed the moment while it lasted.
Zuko shifted, pulling a folded piece of paper out of his pocket. It was a little tattered and crinkled, but it meant the world to him. He refused to get rid of that letter he left him.
Shou dropped his hands and took the paper, opening it slowly. He recognized it immediately, yet still read it back over again.
“Do you still feel the same?” Zuko asked, looking up at him, the closeness suffocating. “After everything you know now?”
He shook his head and smiled. “You mean you being the infamous Prince Zuko and your uncle being the Dragon of the West, and lying to me about who you really are?”
Zuko shrunk back a bit—he was right. Their entire previous friendship (or whatever they could call it) was built on several lies he’d told him to keep himself safe. That didn’t make it right, and he planned on coming clean, but apparently his uncle had done that for him. It was one less awkward conversation he needed to have.
Instead of ridiculing him or even asking why, he tilted his chin up and offered a smile. “I’m not angry, Zuko. I had time to process everything and I understand what you did and why you did it. It’s not fair for me to judge you. I wasn’t completely honest with you in the beginning, which I told you, because I was just trying to protect myself, too.”
He thought back to when they first met. His uncle commented that his name was that of the fire nation, and he’d lied and said it was a family name. According to his story, he was born in Ba Sing Se and his father was of fire nation descent. Later, he’d learned that wasn’t true: he was a war refugee from there. It was the first time he’d gotten to know someone that understood so deeply the other side of the war and how much tragedy it caused.
“In all honesty,” he started. “I didn’t want to make you uncomfortable, so I decided to leave you the letter. I didn't know what you’d say or anything, but now you’re here, and—”
“And you still feel the same way?”
“Yes. So much so I don’t know what to do with myself. I can’t tell you all the things that flew through my mind when you stepped through there, but I don’t think I’ve ever been more excited or relieved in a long time.”
He thought for a long moment. If he was going to do anything, now would be the moment. If he still felt like that, what was stopping them? A single look shared more than all their time spent together in the tea shop—so much time pining, unspoken words, little acts to make the other’s life easier, refusing to make eye contact, lying about blushing—all of it led to this.
“Kiss me, Zuko.”
Zuko grabbed him by the collar of his shirt with both hands, pulled him in, and kissed him hard. His grip only relaxed when he felt Shou’s arms around him again, reminding him he was there. This was real. As unimaginable as it felt, it was impossible to be a dream. It was real, he was there, and he was okay.
As they kissed, Zuko found his hands trailing up to his hair. He released it from the ribbon typically holding it up. Messy, curly hair fell around his shoulders and he ran his hands through it—something he’d been wanting to do for a long time, if he was completely honest.
He felt his smile as he left a last peck on his lips, leaning his forehead against his. Both took a deep breath, processing what they’d just done, which turned into a fit of quiet laughter.
Shou kissed his cheek and pulled him into a hug, more affectionate now than he’d seen him before. With everything between them cleared off the table, he could feel a weight off his chest and clearly Shou could too.
“I’ve waited to do that for so long,” he said breathlessly, squeezing him a little tighter. “You’re incredible, Zuko.”
He only smiled in reply, his grip on him tightening as well. Between all the stress he’d had to deal with in the past few weeks (or his entire life), he didn’t know the last time he was this happy.
(And neither of them knew this, but Iroh came back to check on them, but saw their silhouettes through the tent and figured they were a bit busy—and Pakku owed him a few gold pieces.)
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You sound like my nephew, always thinking you need to do things on your own without anyone's support. There is nothing wrong with letting the people who love you help you.
-Iroh
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Commission for a friend!
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IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION, first thing first, I'm from Venezuela, and here we speak Spanish, specifically, Latin American Spanish, alright? Ok, the first 7 times i watched atla was in Latin American Spanish, those I'm used to pronounce the names of the characters in said accent.
Ok so far? Alright. I've seen a lot of people talking shit about the shaymalan movie (as you should) but specially about how bad the names are pronounced, ALRIGHT? Most of the names in the latam spanish version of atla were pronounced more or less the same, so it's never been a problem for me, OR SO I THOUGHT
guys
GUYS
How do you guys pronounce Uncle Iroh's name? How do you guys do it because some bitch on yt was saying you're supposed to say eye-roh
EYE-ROH????
I'VE BEEN SAYING I-ROH THIS WHOLE TIME I NEED ANSWERS IROH IT'S PRONOUNCED EYE-ROH OR I-ROH HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SAY IT
HELP
#atla#avatar the last airbender#avatar the legend of aang#avatar the legend of korra#avatar movie#atla movie#avatar aang#avatar iroh#avatar sokka#avatar zuko#avatar katara#avatar toph#sokka#zuko#katara#Toph#aang#iroh#uncle iroh#shaymalan avatar movie#atla discourse#send help#i need answers
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